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Christianity Etc › Re: From Atheist To Church Planter: Pastor Alin On The Deficiency Of Atheism. by winner01(op): 9:23am On Aug 24, 2016
naijadeyhia:
God has a great sense of humour winner01 and kingebukasblog....do you know that Peter Hitchens the immediate younger brother of the late Christopher Hitchens (the super Atheist) Has accepted Christ and is actively preaching him now? You really really need to research the guy and create another awesome thread from that.
I remember reading that He set fire to his copy of the King James Bible as a15-year-old at boarding school.

I think one of his quotes that moved me was when he humbly described coming to an awareness of his own sin, writing that "my large catalogue of misdeeds replayed themselves rapidly in my head...I had absolutely no doubt that I was among the damned, if there were any damned".

Hmmnn, It takes humility not to be our own god and to hand over to Jesus.
After Christopher famously published God is not Great, He wrote his own book, The Rage Against God in response.
God really moves in mysterious ways. I bless God for his life.
What saddens me is when I think about all the lives that might have been affected, all the souls that might have been damned, by their actions against God.
Imagine someone like seun eventually coming to the true knowledge of the most High God, would you begin to imagine the number of lives he has affected right here on this forum with his deliberate campaign against God.
Its so unfortunate undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Does God Exit? Let Us Ask Lalasticlala by winner01(m): 8:08am On Aug 24, 2016
lol
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Give Me One Good Reason Why I Should Go Back To God by winner01(m):
You'd need reason and logic to admit the limit of human reason, forgo pride and dismiss the notion that the material world is all there is and ever would be.
Faith is also very important in our daily lives, we have faith in people most times even before they prove themselves. You see, basically, reality has shown that before understanding something, you put faith in it that it can be understood. Before discovering reason, you have to put faith that reason is even a possibility. By rationalizing, you put faith that there is rationality. Faith is a vital part of humanity. Faith enables you to reach beyond that which seems beyond reach.
Like a pastor in the last thread I created said: You cant study the universe enough to reach beyond the universe in the same way, studying a car engine wont give you a clue as to who created the engine or why there is an engine in the first place. I dont believe anybody can change your heart, only God Himself can do that.
I strongly advise however that you channel your energy into searching for Whom this God really is in all sincerity instead of constantly fighting the unapologetic human nature to believe in God.
I believe when you do so in sincerity, God is merciful enough to reveal Himself to you in ways no man would ever understand.
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians And Muslims Who Reject Evolution: Why Do You Reject It? by winner01(m): 11:54pm On Aug 23, 2016
Micro evolution is mere adaptation.
Macro evolution is fantasy ridden. Fossils which are meant to serve as proof to validate it are non existent. Cartoons and pure fantasy have crept into textbooks and are paraded as proofs.

Christianity Etc › Re: Supernatural Things Of God: The Exclusives Of God's Faithful by winner01(m): 11:48pm On Aug 23, 2016
God bless you for this my brother.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians And Pastors/men Of God Disobey This Golden Rule Of Jesus ? by winner01(m): 11:38pm On Aug 23, 2016
MrMontella:
okay sir..

Bt we wont leave tho..
Lol
nawa oo
I thot religion wz bullshit?
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians And Pastors/men Of God Disobey This Golden Rule Of Jesus ? by winner01(m): 11:19pm On Aug 23, 2016
MrMontella:
the above actions stated above is not exclusive to atheist...its also found in christians here...
Both sides commit the same atrocities..
So its even..abi?
Its uneven, you dont invade a section where people are meant to share their beliefs and mock them, and then scream foul when they fight back.
This is a religion section.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians And Pastors/men Of God Disobey This Golden Rule Of Jesus ? by winner01(m): 8:54pm On Aug 23, 2016
MrMontella:
i was talking of real life..
Bt in a religious section...no they shouldnot ..
Bt theres no prohibition of commenting on a subject irrespective of ones belief..
Theres no prohibition of mocking, deriding, ridiculing and dehumanizing believers and their beliefs on a section where they are meant to share their beliefs.
You do realize its the same bigotry you accuse believers for.
Christianity Etc › Re: From Atheist To Church Planter: Pastor Alin On The Deficiency Of Atheism. by winner01(op): 8:40pm On Aug 23, 2016
naijadeyhia:
Some persons would still come here and say HE WAS NEVER AN ATHEIST. Make I book space sha...will comment later. God bless u bro.
Amen. Thanks bro.
Christianity Etc › Re: From Atheist To Church Planter: Pastor Alin On The Deficiency Of Atheism. by winner01(op): 8:31pm On Aug 23, 2016
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Christianity Etc › From Atheist To Church Planter: Pastor Alin On The Deficiency Of Atheism. by winner01(op): 8:27pm On Aug 23, 2016
Article authored by pastor Alin Patularu.





I used to identify as an atheist when I was a teenager, but I didn’t really know why. I had never thought through the implications of what it meant to be an atheist and just assumed I was one because my favorite bands identified with Godlessness. Granted, I was not an obnoxious, arrogant atheist who thought everyone was stupid except himself. I was just your average teenage kid who listened to death metal, loved professional wrestling and lived life on my own terms. However, now that I look back on what I just typed, I can see how maybe I wasn’t average after all, but I digress. When God began to get a hold of me I began to think over the implications of atheism, and soon came to discover how utterly deficient it is as a worldview.



Atheism takes many forms in our crazy backwards culture, but logically it can only lead to a naturalistic worldview. For if one denies the existence of a supernatural Creator God, than you are only left with the natural universe, the material before us. Author Dan Story defines naturalism like this, “At a foundational level, naturalism is the direct opposite of theism in one fundamental way. For a theist, God dominates; for a naturalist, any concept of God is vigorously denied. Reality is composed only of matter—there is nothing but nature, and everything has a natural explanation. The universe itself is a closed system that has always existed—it’s eternal. It operates like a gigantic machine according to unchanging natural laws. Nothing outside this closed system (the physical universe) exists” (Story, 1998, 122).



This is a major problem for atheism, especially modern evangelical atheism. Scientific inquiry has already proven that the universe, time and matter all had a beginning. The material universe we inhabit has not always been here, there was a time when it was not. The big bang, in an effort to discredit the Biblical God has actually confirmed what was said in ancient days, mainly the assumption that states, “In the beginning”. In a universe of cause and effect, eternality of material is logically impossible. Carl Sagan said, “The Cosmos is all that is and all that ever will be” (Sagan, 2002). The logic is that nothing comes from nothing. Something is. Therefore something always was. Many atheists deny this in favor of other explanations that affirm the beginning of the universe. However clever they may become in concocting a theory, all they do is intellectual gymnastics that ends up giving no real answers when all the jargon settles. The reason is, studying the natural cannot answer the question of its causing agent any more than studying the internal mechanism of a gear can answer the question, “How did this thing come to be?” You must go outside the gear to a transcendent creative agent to get your answer. You may answer a lot of important questions about the gears composition, elemental properties, how it works together with other mechanisms and so forth, but you will never be answer the question of how it came into existence. You’ll be a gear expert, but you will still be baffled as to why there is a gear in the first place. This is where we are now. We are experts in a lot of the sciences and know a lot about biology, astronomy, geology etc. But naturalism is still baffled by why all this uniformity and beauty surrounds us. Why is it all here in the first place?



We are the finite trying to understand how the finite came into existence by studying the finite. The finite cannot explain its existence without the infinite. Why? Because finite begets finite. It’s an infinite regress, which we know is not possible because space, time and matter all had a beginning. Eventually you will get to the beginning and discover that only an infinite, immaterial, timeless agent could give birth to finite material space and time. The first cause cannot be finite because that cause would have to have a cause. I hope I am not losing you here. The basic principle here is a universe that is linear composed of time, space and matter can only be explained by a timeless, immaterial, infinite cause. Any other effort to explain our reality is futile and doomed to eventual scorn. It is no wonder that the Psalmist said, “The fool says in his heart ‘there is no God’” (Psalm 14:1).



Atheism reduces people to nothing more than matter in an enormous universe of other matter. It cannot explain (with any real clarity or consistency) the existence of morality, the reason for human dignity, intelligent life or the purpose of existence. In all the atheists hard toils and efforts to explain away God, he unknowingly (or knowingly and just not caring) has explained away all his arguments because they don’t really matter. His intelligence is nothing more than material interacting with other material in a chaotic mess of chemical reactions that have no real direction or reason for being other than they just are. This is why atheism is a monumental waste of time. Atheism often criticizes Christianity for hypocrisy. “If Christians really believed what they believed then they wouldn’t do this or that”. Well if atheists actually believed what they believed then they wouldn’t waste their time trying to discover the origin of reality which is guided by nothing in particular and is simply a mish mash of chemical reactions and the like.



I can hear the atheist say now, “I am interested in why we are here, I want to understand the universe and how it works”. Of course you do, because you are made in God’s image. The very impulse that leads the atheist to want to discover and learn about the Cosmos is the very impulse that proves the existence of a personal loving God. If you really believed there was no God, then you wouldn’t waste your time. What are you going to discover? More material? WOW, good job. “No”, the atheist replies. “I want to make my life easier by scientific discovery. I want to create medications that heal and technology that improves our quality of life”. Of course you do, because you are made in the image of a personal, loving God who has put dignity and worth in the human. The Scripture has been (and is continually fulfilled) which says, “They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.” (Romans 1:25)



You see, no one will stand before the judgment seat of Christ and have an argument. God has created us in His image and given us all we need to know Him. We have these impulses in us to learn, discover, create, serve and help. Did these come from mindless material causes? Is love nothing more than dopamine increases and the effects of an organ in our skull? The problem is we have chosen to harden our hearts against God and live in sinful independence from Him. At the end of the day, atheism does not reject God because of purely intellectual reasons, atheists reject God because they don’t like Him. We love our sins and don’t want that pesky YHWH of ancient days to get in the way of our modern sophisticated lifestyle. We are an enlightened scientific society who does not need a dusty bible to tell us how to live. We have cell phones, the internet. We sleep on posture pedic beds manufactured by intelligent men and women in labs. We will not take our cues from that Jesus of Nazareth who slept on dirt floors. We are ATHEISTS!



We think we are so smart, but our arrogance and pride has led us to fall greatly. We may be able to put men on the moon and have video conversations with people half way across the world. But we don’t know the difference between male and female anymore, we kill our own children in the womb, we exploit women as sex objects and our children bring guns to school and kill each other. We have simultaneously become the most intelligent and confused society in all of human history.



The answer for atheism is Jesus Christ. That ancient Rabbi who rose from the dead. He brings order and reason into a worldview that is filled with chaos. Our sin is the real problem, and Jesus came to deal with that. It is time to turn from human reason and cling to God’s truth. It is not intellectual suicide to throw your deficient, human reason, to the mercy of the infinite, Godly reason. Actually, it is intellectual suicide to NOT do that. God is waiting, He loves you and will not cast you out. All who come to Him are accepted by Him. I have found in all my seeking of God, He was actually not that far off after all. God bless you all.



https://jamesbishopblog./2015/04/02/the-deficiency-of-atheism/

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians And Pastors/men Of God Disobey This Golden Rule Of Jesus ? by winner01(m): 8:15pm On Aug 23, 2016
MrMontella:
yes if only that inexistent thing is kept to the believing party without trying to make other people believe their inexistent thing
Should the believing party also keep their beliefs to themselves on a section created for believers to share their beliefs among themselves?.
Christianity Etc › Re: Finally, Atheists Can Be Proven Wrong! by winner01(m): 8:11pm On Aug 23, 2016
dalaman:
Will you stop spewing the endless lies you use to delude your selves always? All atheist agree that an airplane can fly a person from Abuja to Lagos. We all agree that cars do same, so what nonsensical evidence are you talking about? You have no evidence only stories and empty assertions like every other religion out there.

How many other christains have you converted and made to see things your way here? If there is a God that created us you think you will be the one praying to him about us? Only a God that lives in your head will even allow you to do anything on its behalf.
Relax man.
we are our own messengers. God uses man.
Hear the Word of God, not the words of blind men.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Africans Obsessed With Night Vigils by winner01(m): 6:43pm On Aug 23, 2016
Deicide:
Devil want Ur Soul Jesus want Ur Soul Abeg Soul Na Food??
Your life is not meaningless my brother.
Its a struggle, the struggle for a prize.
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Nigerian Atheist Should Be Outspoken by winner01(m): 6:32pm On Aug 23, 2016
4everGod:
He is evolving! He was once a passive, reclusive Atheist then he became a bit more outspoken, now he is demanding that all atheists should become outspoken, next is most likely Militancy. They never know until they get there because right now he is trying to recruit disciples.
A very fine line between cool and terror.
Christianity Etc › Re: From Atheism To Jesus: My Testimony by winner01(m): 6:11pm On Aug 23, 2016
Seun:
Atheism is just a lack of belief in God, so atheists have no common goal. In my case, I just want people to stop believing things that aren't true.
Excercise your freewill while you yet have the chance. In the end, you will realize that this world does not belong to you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Africans Obsessed With Night Vigils by winner01(m): 5:54pm On Aug 23, 2016
[quote author=Deicide post=48740405][/quote]No matter what you do, he still cares for your soul.

Christianity Etc › Re: Come To Think Of This, by winner01(m): 5:47pm On Aug 23, 2016
Jerryboy:
hello! is it right for christians to pray and shout holy ghost fire? where exactly in the bible can we see the example
Jesus Christ taught us how to pray in the Bible. You can check out the style.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor E.a. Adeboye Of Rccg Speaks On Make-up, Jewellery, Wigs & Bleached Hair. by winner01(m): 5:36pm On Aug 23, 2016
^^^^^^
Please apologies for the dude above me. He is very angry and unstable.

God bless Daddy Adeboye for this.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Africans Obsessed With Night Vigils by winner01(m): 5:26pm On Aug 23, 2016
Deicide:
See how stupid this soundshuh
Dont be angry ehn.
Jesus loves you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Salamo Fariyike,who Was Initiated Into Witchcraft Through Eating Grandma's Akara by winner01(m): 3:53pm On Aug 23, 2016
Nawa!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: What's Christian Best Believe? by winner01(m): 3:51pm On Aug 23, 2016
I believe in Christ Jesus as the Son of God. The teachings of Jesus should spark a renewal of the heart of any true christian.
Christianity Etc › Re: Curse Or Spiritual Manipulation?? by winner01(m): 3:10pm On Aug 23, 2016
Oocc:
I've gotten to the stage where life is no more interesting!
Even if wealth comes today, I doubt if it'll change my state of mind. Life to me is sooo meaningless.

I've reached the stage where all I pray for is good death....maybe sleep and don't wake up again!
Death interest me more than life!

I don't even need anyone to preach to me about Christ, cos I know the Bible more than you do and I don't miss church!!

You might want to know the cause. Well, I figured that since I graduated(about 6 years ago) nothing works in my life.
Failure, near success syndrome, job losses, relationship disaster, sadness, tears, brooding, betrayal by friends I've once helped, confusion, fear, hopelessness, scorn, etc are all I've encountered for years!

No prayer of any kind(from pastors, prayer warriors) have worked for me!
An ex once told me that I cannot fit into this world. The world is not for me and that I should go and die! Meanwhile, I was good to her! I only made a Lil mistake that made her turn against me.......a mistake I don't see as an offense

Every day I ask myself; who have I offended that has Cursed me or using diabolic means to manipulate me and turn my life up-side-down? I can't think of anyone cos I've been good to all that come my way. I give alms to the poor often. I help people with the little I had!

God does not want to answer prayers! He does not want to grant heart desires! He does not want to crown efforts with success! Now, can't he just kindly take the life, so that all sufferings and psychological torture will come to an end??!! I'm in my early 30's and I've already grown grey hairs on my head(so many!!)


If life has sincerely not been fair to someone, then that person is ME!
Dont give up my brother, theres always hope.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Northerners And Why Nigerians Should Quit Religion. by winner01(m): 3:07pm On Aug 23, 2016
Religion is part of the human Nature, it cant be banned.
People only need less religion and more spirituality.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Most Influential Man Of All Time. by winner01(m): 3:04pm On Aug 23, 2016
donnffd:
Do you know the second most influential man of all time?

Sir Isaac Newton

Do you know him?, have you learnt anything about him? or do you know what he did for humanity?

If its a compulsion to learn about influential figures, i hope you would be steady with the rest of the list...
"Can it be by accident that all birds beasts & men have their right side & left side alike shaped (except in their bowells) & just two eyes & no more on either side the face & just two ears on either side the head & a nose with two holes & no more between the eyes & one mouth under the nose & either two fore leggs or two wings or two arms on the sholders & two leggs on the hipps one on either side & no more? Whence arises this uniformity in all their outward shapes but from the counsel & contrivance of an Author? Whence is it that the eyes of all sorts of living creatures are transparent to the very bottom & the only transparent members in the body, having on the outside an hard transparent skin, & within transparent juyces with a crystalline Lens in the middle & a pupil before the Lens all of them so truly shaped & fitted for vision, that no Artist can mend them? Did blind chance know that there was light & what was its refraction & fit the eys of all creatures after the most curious manner to make use of it? These & such like considerations always have & ever will prevail with man kind to believe that there is a being who made all things & has all things in his power & who is therfore to be feared.
Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors." - Sir Isaac Newton 
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians And Pastors/men Of God Disobey This Golden Rule Of Jesus ? by winner01(m): 2:57pm On Aug 23, 2016
4Qbitch:
I think hell fire is designed specifically for African Christians becos most of them r so daft.

How can we be so religious and our churches filled with multitudes, yet not even up to 0.0000000001 percent of us practice what Jesus instructed?

How can a pastor swim in luxury in a third world country where millions of children (including his congregation) cannot feed up to 2 times a day?

How can we ve billionaire pastors in Nigeria and white men would b d ones vaccinating our kids against polio, feeding our displaced brethren in the NE and giving scholarships?Meanwhile most of our churches build schools that poor members ve no access to attend... What's d point?
Christianity practiced wrongly does not invalidate the truths of Jesus.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians And Pastors/men Of God Disobey This Golden Rule Of Jesus ? by winner01(m): 2:55pm On Aug 23, 2016
Omudia11:
Their "God obsession" is now legit. A being don't exist but y'all be losing sleep over him.
No one loses sleep over what doesnt exist. The atheists know this. Let them fight with their conscience.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is This True About God? I Need Clarification by winner01(m): 2:41pm On Aug 23, 2016
adegunwa4real. I want to know if wild animals are terrorists, killers or murderers. Those terms are meant only for humans.

God created all things and He has the right to take what he created. People can cry about death, God sees it as a transition.

When God took my Grandfather, I was consoled by the fact that I know he's in heaven. God took him, not killed him.
Many of the people we are crying about are with God.

Humans are terrorists, killers, murderers etc, Non-humans are not. God is not human.

Plus mind where and whom you ask your questions, this section is a den of atheists in disguise. Be careful.

God gives, God takes. Never you forget that.

Christianity Etc › Re: Dirty Car Art And The Foolishness Of Atheism by winner01(op): 2:28pm On Aug 23, 2016
donnffd:
How many complex things do we see around us apart for life([size=15pt]which we all know wasnt designed[/size]) and Artificially made things??
Do you really need an answer undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Dirty Car Art And The Foolishness Of Atheism by winner01(op): 2:21pm On Aug 23, 2016
donnffd:
we never see intelligence or purpose anywhere in other species, plants, planets e.t.c only humans.
shocked shocked shocked shocked

Christianity Etc › Re: Dirty Car Art And The Foolishness Of Atheism by winner01(op): 2:19pm On Aug 23, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Let me add to this . Atheist websites have experienced a massive decline in traffic over the last 4 years . This is congruent to winner01's thread " 3 Bad Trends for the atheist"
Atheists wont like this grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Dirty Car Art And The Foolishness Of Atheism by winner01(op): 2:17pm On Aug 23, 2016
Deicide:
We didn't loose 3 atheist cause they where never atheist in the first. How did U know Hcpaul is now an atheist and was never an Atheist b4?? Answer this an ull get Ur answer
Is that even a reasonable question?

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