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 Christianity Etc › Re: Belief In God Vs. Atheism: Which Is More Rational? by winner01(op): 7:25pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Thanks Bro. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Are The Benefits Of Believing In God Or Religion To Nigeria? by winner01(m): 7:24pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
mcemmy0z:No matter what happened you my dear, God is still able to turn your story around. Dont forget that while there is yet life, there's hope. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: From Christ Hating Atheist/writer For Atheist Website To Christ Follower by winner01(op): 7:00pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
EyeHateGod:You might also need to read the story of beautiful ex-atheist Jordan Monge, who testified how she got converted at harvard. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: From Christ Hating Atheist/writer For Atheist Website To Christ Follower by winner01(op): 6:36pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
EyeHateGod:So, I shouldn't share his testimony with people? How about nairalanders that got converted, they must share their testimonies in their year of conversion alone shey?  1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Belief In God Vs. Atheism: Which Is More Rational? by winner01(op): 6:34pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: What Are The Benefits Of Believing In God Or Religion To Nigeria? by winner01(m): 6:31pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
mcemmy0z:Relax, you'll find out. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Belief In God Vs. Atheism: Which Is More Rational? by winner01(op): 6:28pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Belief In God Vs. Atheism: Which Is More Rational? by winner01(op): 6:26pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
EyeHateGod:What is this? Use your brain at least. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Belief In God Vs. Atheism: Which Is More Rational? by winner01(op): 6:24pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: From Christ Hating Atheist/writer For Atheist Website To Christ Follower by winner01(op): 6:10pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
If you search through avilable evidence objectively, you'll reach the obvious conclusion. And once that conclusion is reached, Christianity becomes the most plausible of all. "I claim to be an historian. My approach to Classics is historical. And I tell you that the evidence for the life, the death, and the resurrection of Christ is better authenticated than most of the facts of ancient history." -Edward Musgrave Blaiklock (Professor of classics, University of Auckland) Praise be to the God of Heaven. 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › From Christ Hating Atheist/writer For Atheist Website To Christ Follower by winner01(op): 5:59pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
The testimony of former atheist Darrin Rasberry. He used to write for John Loftus’ blog site Debunking Christianity, and is currently a math teacher at Ellsworth Community College. To this end John Loftus (admin at DC) commits the No-True- Scotsman fallacy (to say that someone never really believed A before he rejected it to believe B, when he actually did initially believe A) by accusing Rasberry in saying that he “ was never an atheist in the first place .” Nevertheless, according to Rasberry: “Some time last week, I realized that I could no longer call myself a skeptic. After fifteen years away from Christianity, most of which was spent as an atheist with an active, busy intent on destroying the faith, I returned to a church (with a real intention of going for worship) last Sunday. Although I know I may struggle with doubt for the rest of my life, my life as an atheist is over. The primary motivator in my change of heart from a Christ-hater to a card-carrying Disciples of Christ member was apologetic arguments for God’s existence. Those interested in these arguments may pursue them in the comments section, but I don’t want to muddle this explanation up with formal philosophical proofs. Briefly, I grew tired of the lack of explanation for: the existence of the universe, moral values and duties, objective human worth, consciousness and will, and many other topics. The only valid foundation for many of those ideas is a personal, immaterial, unchanging and unchangeable entity. As I fought so desperately to come up with refutations of these arguments – even going out of my way to personally meet many of their originators, defenders, and opponents – I realized that I could not answer them no matter how many long nights I spent hitting the books. The months of study rolled on to years, and eventually I found an increasing comfort around my God-believing enemies and a growing discontent and even anger at my atheist friends’ inability to kill off these fleas in debate and in writing, an anger that gave birth to my first feeling of separateness from skepticism after reading comments related to a definitively refuted version of the Christ Myth theory, the idea that Jesus Christ never even existed as a person at all. Line after line after line of people hating Christianity and laughing at its “lie,” when solid scholarship refuting their idea was ignored completely. It showed that the motive of bashing and hating Christianity for some skeptics wasn’t based in reason and “free thinking” at all, although it would be unfair to lump many of my more intellectually rigorous and mentally cool skeptic friends in this way. As time went on, I reverted the path I traced after giving up Christianity so long ago: I went from atheist to agnostic to … gulp … *leaning* in the direction of God, to finally accepting that he very well could exist, and then to coming out and admitting (quietly) He did exist. After considering Deism (the belief in a God who abandons His creation), Islam, Hinduism (yes, Krishna, don’t laugh), Baha’i, and even Jainism briefly, I have decided to select Christianity due to its superior model for human evil and its reconciliation, coupled with the belief that God interacted with man directly and face-to-face and had *the* crucial role in this reconciliation. This, of course, doesn’t prove that Christianity is absolutely true (although I can prove that God exists), but rather reflects my recognition that Christianity is exactly what I would expect to be the case given that God exists. There are problems that I have with adopting any specific layout of Christianity, which explains my current attendance at what many of you may consider to be a very liberal denomination in the Disciples of Christ. Their aim is to unify all believers in the essentials, while leaving nonessential beliefs (however important) up to the member to decide. The essentials are about all I can honestly grasp at this moment. At its philosophical core, I prefer the Reformed (Calvinist) tradition, perhaps by a long shot, but there are many very serious practical issues I can’t resolve. Conversely, Catholicism is a practical Godsend (pardon the term) but I have problems with their philosophy. And I don’t agree with many political issues of either of those branches or the majority of Christian branches in general. I have a long way to go and I know the many problems religion has in general and that Christianity has in specific, but they do not exceed the fatal problems in skepticism. I understand that this may confuse and even upset many of the friends I’ve had for a long time, both in my personal life and in the years-long journey I’ve made as a skeptic-to- believer. Christianity is not without its critics, and given the absolutely shameful way many “Christians” have treated homosexuals, drug addicts, people of other faiths (and of no faith) and races, and even people of different Christian denomination, and given the often intellectually embarrassing way we’ve handled science and philosophy, I would not blame you for a second if you did not want to associate with me based on the track record of those who claim to believe similarly to what I believe now. I am the same Darrin as I was before, a math teacher, a storm chaser, D&  gamer, drunk philosopher, a lover of beer that’s too strong and spice that’s too hot, and all the rest of it. I just hope to be a little cleaner, more honest, more Christ-like. I won’t throw the Bible at you and I won’t preach to you with wild eyes and a million mile stare about how you shouldn’t be gay or how you should focus on what Hitch calls the “eternal theme park.” This is all the evangelism you’ll get from me and I do hope it’s quite enough to motivate you to study the evidence for God’s existence yourself and to read the Bible without the predetermined idea of tearing it apart. God bless you. https://jamesbishopblog./2015/05/21/arguments-for-gods-existence-leads-former-christ-hater-darrin-rasberry-to-christ-follower/ 4 Likes 1 Share
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| Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Needs To Be Updated Or Abolished by winner01(m): 4:29pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
EyeHateGod:Relax please. You'll loose count soon |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Belief In God Vs. Atheism: Which Is More Rational? by winner01(op): 4:27pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
thesicilian:True. But shouldnt we try to present our side, for people who might be infected with the venom of militant atheism? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Bible Needs To Be Updated Or Abolished by winner01(m): 4:25pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
cloudgoddess:Are you insinuating that atheism is peaceful, cos I can give you a list of sufferings inflicted on the innocent by atheists, accross the ages. Also, how are you morally better than any other religious individual out there? |
| Christianity Etc › Belief In God Vs. Atheism: Which Is More Rational? by winner01(op): 4:01pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
This Article is by Peter Kreeft "Belief in God, according to atheists, is irrational, illogical, and dumb. Belief that the universe created itself is, they say, intelligent, rational, and based in science. This is simply false. Nothing can create itself. Everything has a cause -- including the universe. That cause, argues Peter Kreeft, professor of philosophy at Boston College, is God, the "unmoved mover." Belief in God, as Kreeft shows, is more rational than belief in nothing. Logic, science, and reason, support God. Atheism, as you'll see, is far more steeped in blind faith than is belief". So is it rational to believe in God? Many people think that faith and reason are opposites; that belief in God and tough-minded logical reasoning are like oil and water. They are wrong. Belief in God is far more rational than atheism. Logic can show that there is a God. If you look at the universe with common sense and an open mind, you’ll find that it’s full of God’s fingerprints. A good place to start is with an argument by Thomas Aquinas, the great 13th century philosopher and theologian. The argument starts with the not very startling observation that things move. But nothing moves for no reason. Something must cause that movement. And whatever caused that, must be caused by something else, and so on. But this causal chain cannot go backwards forever. It must have a beginning. There must be an Unmoved Mover to begin all the motion in the universe: a first domino to start the whole chain moving, since mere matter never moves itself. A modern objection to this argument is that some movements things in quantum mechanics -- radioactive decay, for example -- have no discernible cause, but hang on a second. Just because scientists don’t see a cause, doesn’t mean there isn’t one. It just means science hasn’t found it yet. Maybe some day they will. But then there will have to be a new cause to explain that one. And so on and so on. But science will never find the first cause. That’s no knock on science. It simply means that a first cause lies outside the realm of science. Another way to explain this argument is that everything that begins must have a cause. Nothing can come from nothing. So if there is no first cause, there can’t be second causes. Or anything at all. In other words, if there’s no creator, there can’t be a universe. But, what if the universe were infinitely old, you might ask? Well, all scientists today agree that the universe is not infinitely old, that it had a beginning in the Big Bang. If the universe had a beginning, then it didn’t have to exist. And things which don’t have to exist, must have a cause. There’s confirmation of this argument from Big Bang Cosmology. We now know that all matter, that is, the whole universe, came into existence some 13.7 billion years ago and it’s been expanding and cooling ever since. No scientist doubts that anymore, even though before it was scientifically proved, atheists called it “creationism in disguise.” Now add to this premise, a very logical second premise -- the principal of causality that nothing begins without an adequate cause. And you get the conclusion that since there was a Big Bang, there must be a Big Banger. But is this Big Banger God? Why couldn’t it be just another universe? Because Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity says that all time is relative to matter and since all matter began 13.7 billion years ago, so did all time. So there’s no time before the Big Bang. And even if there is time before the Big Bang, even if there is a multi-verse, that is, many universes with many Big Bangs, as String Theory says is mathematically possible, that too must have a beginning. An absolute beginning is what most people mean by God. Yet, some atheists find the existence of an infinite number of other universes more rational than the existence of a Creator. Never mind that there is no empirical evidence at all that any of these unknown universes exists, let alone a thousand or a gazillion. The conclusion that God exists doesn’t require faith. Atheism requires faith. It takes faith to believe in everything coming from nothing. It takes only reason to believe in everything coming from God. Source:https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/god-vs-atheism-which-more-rational 6 Likes 3 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: A Pastor Turned A Muslim In Ekiti. by winner01(m): 2:34pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
Peritus:Its good people are waking up. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What If You Heard That God Has Been Proven Real By Scientists by winner01(m): 12:13pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
AnodaIT:You're correct. An atheist said the same sometime ago. If one were to prove this God of the Christians to us, we should be even less able to believe in him. - Friedrich Nietzche |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reason For The Change In Meanings Of The Scriptures? by winner01(m): 12:09pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Yes oo, we'll make it the last. Good idea bro |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reason For The Change In Meanings Of The Scriptures? by winner01(m): 11:53am On Aug 27, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Exactly bro. 2 Likes 1 Share
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Reason For The Change In Meanings Of The Scriptures? by winner01(m): 11:52am On Aug 27, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Reason For The Change In Meanings Of The Scriptures? by winner01(m): 11:48am On Aug 27, 2016 |
hahn:Do you have proof of something coming from nothing, do you have proof of life evolving from non life Do you turn your brains off when you say this things? 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reason For The Change In Meanings Of The Scriptures? by winner01(m): 11:40am On Aug 27, 2016 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Reason For The Change In Meanings Of The Scriptures? by winner01(m): 11:24am On Aug 27, 2016 |
AnonyNymous:And it will continue to be a mystery to the world my friend. Ever wondered how preachers get new messages to preach every sunday for centuries? It is inspired by God, and His best-seller is not about to die out. You can try your best to bellitle it, but even in your old age, you children may present you with a beautiful copy of the Bible. Bernard Ramm affirmed of the Bible some 100 years before you were born: “A thousand times over, the death knell of the Bible has been sounded, the funeral procession formed, the inscription cut on the tombstone, and committal read. But somehow the corpse never stays put.” “No other book has been so chopped, knifed, sifted, scrutinized, and vilified. What book on philosophy or religion or psychology or belles lettres of classical or modern times has been subject to such a mass attack as the Bible? With such venom and skepticism? With such thoroughness and erudition? Upon every chapter, line and tenet?” I think you're doing the exact same thing about 100 years after this quote. Well, Bernard Ramm concluded by saying: “ The Bible is still loved by millions, read by millions, and studied by millions.” And a hundred years from now, it will. Its quite unfortunate that all you can and will keep doing do is to stay in the confines of your room and wail. AnonyNymous:i'm sure you did not make your findings about this, why then do you condemn the works of other historians who "went back in time" to find answers? I have addressed this same issue twice and it seems you have nothing else to say but to call christians to the same challenge over and over again. Ill simply take an excerpt not from the Bible this time, but from the "Jewish Encyclopaedia", which an atheist (dalaman) referred me to: The Hebrew word "'ebed" really means "slave"; but the English Bible renders it "servant" (a) where the word is used figuratively, pious men being "servants of the Lord" (Isa. xx. 3), and courtiers "servants of the king" (Jer. xxxvii. 2); and (b) in passages which refer to Hebrew bondmen, whose condition is far above that of slavery (Ex. xxi. 2-7). Where real slaves are referred to, the English versions generally use "bondman" for "'ebed," and "bondwoman" or "bondmaid" for the corresponding feminines http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13799-slaves-and-slavery The dictionary meaning of the word figuratively: The adverb figuratively describes something symbolic, not actual. For example, If a friend invites you to tonight's concert but you already have plans with your family, you might say — figuratively — that your hands are tied. The Jewish encyclopaedia recognizes that the english versions that use the word servant, make use of it figuratively. You should take some time to really read KindEbukasBlog thread that addresses this issue. AnonyNymous:The Bible consistently refers to homosexual activity as a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:24-27. It does not matter if there are gay pastors, it does not matter if pastors sanction premarital sex, it does not matter if we have atheist mega churches, it does not matter if we redefine scriptures to suit our notions. What matters is the word of God that does not change. www.nairaland.com/attachments/4161240_139251279586464209149008379802175256925100n_jpegfde48b8f0baf5c54ca99620a8bb611db AnonyNymous:These things have been addressed over and over and are getting stale. "Leviticus chapter 11 lists the dietary restrictions God gave to the nation of Israel. The dietary laws included prohibitions against eating pork, shrimp, shellfish and many types of seafood, most insects, scavenger birds, and various other animals. The dietary rules were never intended to apply to anyone other than the Israelites. The purpose of the food laws was to make the Israelites distinct from all other nations. After this purpose had ended, Jesus declared all foods clean (Mark 7:19). God gave the apostle Peter a vision in which He declared that formerly unclean animals could be eaten: “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean” (Acts 10:15). When Jesus died on the cross, He fulfilled the Old Testament law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:24-26; Ephesians 2:15). This includes the laws regarding clean and unclean foods." http://www.gotquestions.org/foods.html No other person could put it in better terms. Plus who cares what the pope and the catholic "church" does except catholics ..Not after all the witchcraft burnings, crusades, inquisition etc.Catholicism is its own religion. www.nairaland.com/attachments/4161241_13932901550879591762895577393305554108272n_jpeg7c1b63ccd37d385f77d0d6d222031f70 AnonyNymous:Nawa ooo. The same lines again and again, look for something new na. Joshua was no scientist and had very little understanding about the world. He made a simple request to God and God understood what he meant and granted. God who created the universe is capable of compensating for any complications known and unknown. Afterall you were not involved in creating this wonderful universe. How powerful must a Being be to be able to have created this vast universe. Very powerful!, Limitless in fact! Unlike anything you've learnt in school. AnonyNymous:Morality did not evolve from amoral rocks and slime. The very reason why you lock your doors whenever you sleep is because you dont believe in subjective morality and also because societal morality is insufficient. Objective morality is what makes sense and it is what enables us to be able to call offenders to order. The Bible will keep its position miles ahead of you, even though many will try to twist it to suit whatever works for them. Its remains our guide as a people. Here are some quotes worth pondering upon concerning the Bible. Jean Jacques Rousseau, French skeptic “Jewish authors would never have invented either that style nor that morality; and the Gospel has marks of truth so great, so striking, so utterly inimitable, that the invention of it would be more astonishing than the hero.” Immanuel Kant, German idealist philosopher, 1724-1804 “I believe that the existence of the Bible is the greatest benefit to the human race. Any attempt to belittle it, I believe, is a crime against humanity.” Professor M. Montiero-Williams, former Boden prof. Of Sanskrit who spent 42 years studying Eastern books Said comparing them with the Bible: “Pile them, if you will, on the left side of your study table; but place your own Holy Bible on the right side–all by itself, all alone–and with a wide gap between them. For there is a gulf between it and the so-called sacred books of the East which severs the one from the other utterly hopelessly, and a forever…a veritable gulf which cannot be bridged over by any science of religious thought.” Henry Ward Beecher "Sink the Bible to the bottom of the ocean, and still man's obligations to God would be unchanged. He would have the same path to tread, only his lamp and guide would be gone; the same voyage to make, but his chart and compass would be overboard!" J. Hamilton "The Word of GOD will stand a thousand readings, and he who has gone over it most frequently is the surest of finding new wonders there" Isaiah 40:8 The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever. www.nairaland.com/attachments/2705025_biblelightrays63636342_jpegaf45c364239564871fcd0a197980cf45 3 Likes 2 Shares |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Reason For The Change In Meanings Of The Scriptures? by winner01(m): 11:20am On Aug 27, 2016 |
hahn:Remind me the verse of the Bible that say that again  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Picture Collections That Christians Would Not Want You To See. by winner01(m): 10:17pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
realmindz:like it or not, you opinion is irrelevant. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Till Death; Atheist Joseph Stalin's Last Act Against God by winner01(op): 11:12am On Aug 26, 2016 |
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This one is more of a scientific evolution. As at the time it was written, there was absolutely no problem in saying that the sun magically stood still. But now that we have knowledge of how space works, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ... 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 (of 203 pages)