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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 11:14pm On Jul 16, 2016
naijadeyhia:
This statement alone shows you are afraid of Hell so you are trying to wish it away.
[size=13pt]BOMB!!![/size]

dalaman, dont be scared na. grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 11:11pm On Jul 16, 2016
dalaman:
Sure, hell exist but only in your sadistic mind. Death is a characteristic of all living things. While he'll is an imaginary idea of sadistic religious people that want to use fear to get people in line.
But we are not asked to fear hell but to fear God.

The fear of God (Yirat' adonai) originally means consciousness of your Creator.

We dont fear Hell. If you love and reverence God, there's nothing to fear.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 10:59pm On Jul 16, 2016
dalaman:
The type of morality that claims that people deserve to be tortured in fire for ever when they die because they refuse to accept stories or live in a particular way? You have nothing to say about morality of you believe in that sadistic and repulsive idea.
I dont like Hell, but it exists. Same way I dont like death, but it exists.

Do you want me to pretend like it does not esist?. grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 10:58pm On Jul 16, 2016
dalaman:
Its simply because most atheist were former Christians or from.the west where christianity is the dominant religion. Visit ex muslim forums on the Internet. Jesus and the bible gets no menton. Only Allah and the Koran.
So give us examples of those ex muslum atheist forums. grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 10:52pm On Jul 16, 2016
dalaman:
And you are like Jesus how? Jesus will not be wasting time on the Internet with atheist will he? He'll be busy showing them signs and wonders. We were told that Jesus did so many great things that if all were to be written down all the booka in the world will not contain them. This is the man you said you are supposed to take after and ne like instead you are buying doing he said she said with atheist despite Jesus promising you the ability to do greater things that him if you believe. You can't do anything like him because it is simply a lie and a myth.
Dalaman, dont change the argument na.
Dont you have any other thing to say on morality? grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 10:49pm On Jul 16, 2016
dalaman:
[size=5pt]Christ is a myth that is why he can not be any bodies standard. If Christ is your standard then you should be doing greater things than he promised those of you that believe in him to be doing. Of Christ is your standard you won't be here on the Internet arguing on the Internet with atheist and failing to prove anything to them apart from perpetuating propaganda.

The construct of Christ is an.impossible myth that is why no christian on earth can be like him. Where are the christians that love their neighbors the way they love themselves? Where are the christians that love their enemies and and pray for them? Where are the Christains that turn the other cheek and give out their coats when people take their shirts as they are told to do by Jesus? Where are the Christains that perform magical feast like Jesus? Where are those raising people from the dead , healing people at will, feeding thousands people with 2 fish and 5 loafs of bread? Where are the christians that are doing greater things than Jesus as he promised those that believe in him? There is non because all the promises are fake and what he proposed is even impossible for Christains to practice that is why throughout history christians have never been different to non christians when it comes to morality or the issue of goodness. Christains are NOT better human beings than non christians, they have never been aND will never be. Just take a lot at all the churches in the world and see the nonsense that is going on in there. [/size]

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 10:46pm On Jul 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
Did you try any of the other gods before chosing Yahweh?

Tell me the truth

Were you born a Christian?
I was not born a Christian. And yes, i weighed the available options.

No worldview makes sense as much as Christianity. And thats simply because it corresponds to something true.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 10:43pm On Jul 16, 2016
hopefulLandlord:
Which god? There are many of them last time I checked, each one with different ideas about what's bad and good, you Christians turn atheism v theism debate into atheism vs Christianity, if Yahweh were the ONLY god in the world, that would've been very valid but its not
Look around you. Look at nairaland, look at foreign atheist forums.

Then come back to tell me the God that atheists concern themselves with.

I wouldnt concern myself with a lie either.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 10:26pm On Jul 16, 2016
dalaman:
You are NOT different from the average Nigerian christian on the street. No matter how you lie to your self you aren't any different.
Dont miss the point. Other christians are not my standard.
Christ is my standard.

You should give it a try too. wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 10:22pm On Jul 16, 2016
adoyi8:
religious countries like Nigeria
adoyi8:
premarital sex is bad and will lead you to hell but i can tell you that almost 90% of unmarried christians above 25 years are not virgins and they remorselessly have sex every week of the month especially pastors children this is because the global society does not see it as immoral.
Be consistent my friend.

You are contradicting yourself.

Are you saying they are pretending to be religious? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 10:18pm On Jul 16, 2016
adoyi8:
still on point that atheists can be moral since you stated that morality is embedded in a person, so we dont need religion to be moral
No! We do not need religion to be moral.
God has put conscience in every man.

And thats his point, morality is innate. And dust particles could never give rise to morality.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 9:06pm On Jul 16, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Please tell us to continue reading here and don't post this rigmarole again .

https://www.quora.com/Where-do-atheists-get-their-morality

Its a shame that you need another atheist's view to understand where you stand on morality . Logical thinkers indeed
hopefulLandlord grin grin
You're empty.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 9:03pm On Jul 16, 2016
adoyi8:
You can't join the communist party UNLESS you are an atheist. china been mild on religion shows you that atheists can also be tolerant contrary to the stories you theists spread about atheist leaders using stalin and the Nazi as example
I can also use the same argument and say, their tolerance of religion is the reason for their development.

Afterall, no true atheist country in the past have tolerated religion like china, and their ideologies all failed woefully.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 9:00pm On Jul 16, 2016
adoyi8:
according to christianity, premarital sex is bad and will lead you to hell but i can tell you that almost 90% of unmarried christians above 25 years are not virgins and they remorselessly have sex every week of the month especially pastors children this is because the global society does not see it as immoral. now imagine that a law was passed and fully enforced to reduce premarital sex. what do you think will be the result?
90% of unmarried christians are not Christ.

And that is further proof that Nigerians are pretending to be religious.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 8:56pm On Jul 16, 2016
adoyi8:
it is soceital law that decides what is right or wrong. Nobody fears God and that's y leaders continue to loot in our very religious country
Keep deceiving yourself. Jesus Christ was against religion.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 8:52pm On Jul 16, 2016
adoyi8:
The last time i checked China (with an overwhelming population) and Japan are doing pretty well
China is very mild on religion and has a surge in the growth of christianity. https://www.nairaland.com/3172960/china-course-worlds-most-christian#47157331



A Country that is serious about their atheism is North Korea. They have maintained their resistance to religion. And we know where they are today.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 8:52pm On Jul 16, 2016
adoyi8:
I CHALLENGE HIM TO KILL ME NOW unless if he is as dead as he is supposed to be.
Relax my friend, dont be in a haste.

When you really see death, no one will ask you to beg for your life.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Till Death; Atheist Joseph Stalin's Last Act Against God by winner01(op): 8:33pm On Jul 16, 2016
dalaman:
No I won't. I am not for universal atheism. I just want people to know that atheism is a reasonable alternative to religious indoctrination.
Stalin also considered atheism a better alternative to theism, remember? grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Till Death; Atheist Joseph Stalin's Last Act Against God by winner01(op): 8:32pm On Jul 16, 2016
dalaman:
No I won't. I am not for universal atheism. I just want people to know that atheism is a reasonable alternative to religious indoctrination.
But your forceful and deliberate attacks on theists in this section proves otherwise.

And how is atheism a reasonable alternative?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 8:18pm On Jul 16, 2016
adoyi8:
globalization has created a global society so the global law (as known as human rights law) is that no human should kill another human because of race or ideology. The answer to your question that the global society is what makes what Nazi did look immoral.
But can they kill other humans because of their crime?. grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Till Death; Atheist Joseph Stalin's Last Act Against God by winner01(op): 8:13pm On Jul 16, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
An atheist ended the lives of millions just because of his hate for religion . Dalaman , give me a good reason why you won't do same if you had that discretion
Lol!

good question.

dalaman, would you end religion if you had the opportunity?.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Till Death; Atheist Joseph Stalin's Last Act Against God by winner01(op): 8:09pm On Jul 16, 2016
dalaman:
So your good God allows one person to kill millions all in the name of an alleged after life. Interesting.
God did not promise us a world free of evil.

Say something else na.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 8:06pm On Jul 16, 2016
Edelweiss44:
God created AND OWNS LIFE, SO IF HE SO DECIDES TO DESTROY WHAT HE CREATED, IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! LIFE BELONGS TO GOD, SO HE CAN CHOOSE TO GIVE OR WITHDRAW IT FROM ANYBODY AS HE PLEASES!
If a man destroys a phone to create another people dont call him wicked or destroyer.
And you cant even create a phone from nothing, you can only create from God-made resources.

God created man from nothing.
So i get confused when atheists try to fit God into their brains. Atheists have reduced God to a man, thats why they blame Him for creation.

But God has been dealing with generations, these ones are just babies.

God will always be God even long after their soul leaves the earth.

God bless you for this.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Till Death; Atheist Joseph Stalin's Last Act Against God by winner01(op): 7:51pm On Jul 16, 2016
dalaman:
Seriously don't you have anything better to do than to be following me monitoring the threads am viewing?
KingEbukaNaija, hn don show oo!! grin grin

Dont flatter yourself, I happened to be on the thread the same time you were viewing.

So do you have anything different for us this time.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 7:42pm On Jul 16, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Exactly this right here would nail him . That means those people who share a common belief about something see it as morally right and they should not repine over their actions . What is right to them is wrong to you .LOL . Subjective morality is pathetic .

And the pic , 99.9 percent of atheists lose arguments here , egregiously . They keep on switching from one argument to another like a headless chicken - their goal is to look for how to ridicule the superior argument presented by the Christian . And if they find no reason they use the old trick , ask how it proves God's existence .
What right does his society have to tell the canadian government that bestiality is wrong.? lol

Atheists dont question atheism and thats where the problem lies.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Till Death; Atheist Joseph Stalin's Last Act Against God by winner01(op): 7:29pm On Jul 16, 2016
When dalaman views the thread, you cant but smile and brace yourself for vituperative attacks...

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 7:19pm On Jul 16, 2016
adoyi8:
The answer to your question is that Humans can do anything to survival regardless of if they are atheists or Christians but Man needs others to survive and that has created society. society needs law to keep men from harming each other. Law is the answer. Now imagine a country like China ruled by an atheist party (the communist party) that strictly follow their law and delivers capital punishment for corruption, then Imagine another country like Nigeria that has a weak law but are very religious, morality is thought based on religious teachings and if the leaders steal our money, the law does nothing and the masses hope that they will go to hell one day. which of the two countries do you think will be more corrupt? The answer to morality is law. When laws are fair and thoroughly enforced, morally persists.
So if morality is decided by societal laws, what right does your society have to tell the nazi society that their actions were wrong? or the islamic society that they should tolerate other religious beliefs.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 7:06pm On Jul 16, 2016
adoyi8:
The answer to your question is that Humans can do anything to survival regardless of if they are atheists or Christians but Man needs others to survive and that has created society. society needs law to keep men from harming each other. Law is the answer. Now imagine a country like China ruled by an atheist party (the communist party) that strictly follow their law and delivers capital punishment for corruption, then Imagine another country like Nigeria that has a weak law but are very religious, morality is thought based on religious teachings and if the leaders steal our money, the law does nothing and the masses hope that they will go to hell one day. which of the two countries do you think will be more corrupt? The answer to morality is law. When laws are fair and thoroughly enforced, morally persists.
Christianity is why you have a voice. If christian leaders reasoned like atheists or created laws like atheist leaders, you'd all be dead.

The first ever officially declared atheist nation in the world was Albania under the rule of communist dictator Enver Hoxha (1908-85).

Article 37 of the Albanian Constitution of 1976 stipulated: ‘The State recognizes no religion, and supports atheistic propaganda in order to implant a scientific materialistic outlook in people’ (Vickers 2001).

Article 2, A, constitution of Iraq stipulates: No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.

Article 3, constitution of Afghanistan: In Afghanistan, no law can be contrary to the beliefs and provisions of the sacred religion of Islam.

It is easier to criticize islam as being intolerant and infringing on the rights of individuals that hold contrary beliefs, but is there really any difference between these two laws (Islam and atheism)?

And the same goes for almost every atheist country that have ever existed. Force is not the answer, love is!

Nigeria's laws is not based on religion, (maybe a little tilted to the islamic religion though.)

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 6:53pm On Jul 16, 2016
I think C.S Lewis is one of the most intelligent humans to ever exist. This quote of his hit me like a missile. Everyone cannot deny that they have the feeling this man was talking about. If one denies it, it means one can be satisfied with nothing. And the human nature proves that this is simply not true.


He said : "Creatures are not born with desires unless satisfaction for these desires exists. A baby feels hunger; well, there is such a thing as food. A dolphin wants to swim; well, there is such a thing as water. Men feel sexual desire; well, there is such a thing as sex. If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world."


What exactly do we want?: To live forever?, To be the wealthiest?, most handsome?, most intelligent?, the worlds first citizen?, the worlds greatest etc.?
The death of Muhammed Ali should teach us all a serious lesson. Vanity upon Vanity, all is vanity. If nothing in this world can satisfy your desire?. The most probable explanation is that you were made for another world.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op):
These are sincere questions?.

Atheists cant answer this atheist whose picture is shown below.

His name is Jeffery Dahmer.

He was an atheist, a serial-killer and a cannibal.

When he was caught, he asked the world a very serious question.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 6:35pm On Jul 16, 2016
Today, only few atheistic evolutionists will admit what this dude had the balls to admit.

Why should anyone trust the convictions of an animal.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism And Morality; Do Atheists Have A Foundation For Morality by winner01(op): 6:21pm On Jul 16, 2016
Atheism is absurd. How can one rely on meaninglessness to provide meaning. And expect us to take their meaning serious.

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