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All these atheists we have on Nairaland , we claim they have moral compass when apparently they have none .

Lol
They are probably still using the moral compass they learnt from christianity

adoyi8:
being querulous? we are all just trying to understand the life that we were given but there are just different answers to life, most of which i find irrational. as an atheist, i will recognize and accept the truth about life when I see it because i search with an open mind. if God exists and he is not the christian God i doubt if you will ever recognize and accept him. you are not ready.

How about those of us who were at a time irreligious and have find Christianity as the most potent worldview against secular insanity.

Muafrika2:
The current civilization has destroyed more lives that any other. Since the rise of Europe( Russia included)

I quite agree.

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Atheists are some of the most religious and faithful people ever. It takes an incredible amount of faith to be an atheist. Sun, moon, stars, oceans, the Earth, animals, babies, male, female, the human heart, emotions, our conscience, love, intelligence, the human mind, bone structure, the human reproductive system, biblical prophecies coming true all before our eyes, eyewitness accounts of Jesus, and more and still there are some people who deny God’s existence.


Just stop and think about it. It’s impossible for something to come from nothing. To say nothingness caused nothing and created everything is absurd! Nothing will always remain nothing.

J. S. Mill who was a non-Christian philosopher said, “It is self-evident that only mind can create mind. For nature to make itself is a scientific impossibility."
Atheism can’t explain existence. Atheists may have hijacked science and live by it, but science (always) changes. God and the Bible (always) remain the same. They know there is a God.
He is revealed in creation, through His Word, and through Jesus Christ. Everybody knows that God is real, people just hate Him so much they suppress the truth.
Behind every creation there is always a creator. You might not know the person who built your house, but you know it didn’t just get there on its own.

Atheists are going to say well who created God? God is not in the same category as created things. God is not created. God is the uncaused cause. He is eternal. He simply exists. It is God who brought matter, time, and space into existence.

If Atheists believe there is no God why are they always so obsessed with Him? Why are they worried about Christians? Why do they view things about Christianity just to mock? Why are there atheist conventions? Why have atheist churches?

If God is not real why does it matter? It’s because they hate God! Why does life matter? Without God nothing makes sense. There is no reality at all. Atheists can’t account for morality. Why is right right and why is wrong wrong? Atheists can’t account for rationality, logic, and intelligence because their worldview will not allow them to. The only way they can is to take upon the Christian theistic worldview and that's simply because Christianity is where the power lies.



Quotes

• “To sustain the belief that there is no God, atheism has to demonstrate infinite knowledge, which is tantamount to saying, “I have infinite knowledge that there is no being in existence with infinite knowledge.””
– Ravi Zacharias
• “Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning.” C.S. Lewis




What does the Bible say?

1. Colossians 2:8 Be careful not to allow anyone to captivate you through an empty, deceitful philosophy that is according to human traditions and the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

2. 1 Corinthians 3:19-20 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God, since it is written: He catches the wise in their craftiness; and again, The Lord knows that the reasonings of the wise are meaningless

3. 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 and every type of evil to deceive those who are dying, those who refused to love the truth that would save them. For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. Then all who have not believed the truth but have taken pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned.




Atheists say there is no God.

4. Psalm 14:1 For the choir director. David. The fool says in his heart, “God does not exist.” They are corrupt; they do vile deeds. There is no one who does good.

5. Psalm 53:1 For the music director; according to the machalath style; a well-written song by David. Fools say to themselves, “There is no God.” They sin and commit evil deeds; none of them does what is right.

6. Psalm 10:4-7 With haughty arrogance, the wicked “God will not seek justice. He always presumes “There is no God. Their ways always seem prosperous. Your judgments are on high, far away from them. They scoff at all their enemies. They say to themselves, We will not be moved throughout all time, and we will not experience adversity.” Their mouth is full of curses, lies, and oppression, their tongues spread trouble and iniquity.





They know God is real, but they hate God so they suppress the truth by their own unrighteousness.

7. Romans 1:18-19 For God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all the ungodliness and wickedness of those who in their wickedness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God himself has made it plain to them.

8. Romans 1:28-30 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what should not be done. They are filled with every kind of unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, malice. They are rife with envy, murder, strife, deceit, hostility. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, contrivers of all sorts of evil, disobedient to parents, senseless, covenant-breakers, heartless, ruthless. Although they fully know God’s righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but also approve of those who practice them.




They can’t understand the things of God.

9. 1 Corinthians 2:14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

10. Ephesians 4:18 They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of their ignorance and hardness of heart.





They are scoffers.

11. 2 Peter 3:3-5 First of all you must understand this: In the last days mockers will come and, following their own desires, will ridicule us by saying, “What happened to the Messiah’s promise to return? Ever since our ancestors died, everything continues as it did from the beginning of creation.” But they deliberately ignore the fact that long ago the heavens existed and the earth was formed by God’s word out of water and with water.

12. Psalm 74:18 Remember this: The enemy scorns the Lord and a foolish people despises your name.

13. Psalm 74:22 Arise, O God, defend your cause; remember how the foolish scoff at you all the day!

14. Jeremiah 17:15 Behold, they say to me, “Where is the word of the LORD? Let it come!”





How do I know there’s a God?

16. Psalm 92:5-6 How great are your works, O LORD! Your thoughts are very deep! The stupid man cannot know; the fool cannot understand this:

17. Romans 1:20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

18. Psalm 19:1-4 The heavens are declaring the glory of God, and their expanse shows the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech, night after night they reveal knowledge. There is no speech nor are there words, their voice is not heard yet their message goes out into all the world, and their words to the ends of the earth. He has set up a tent for the sun in the heavens.

19. Ecclesiastes 3:11 Yet God has made everything beautiful for its own time. He has planted eternity in the human heart, but even so, people cannot see the whole scope of God’s work from beginning to end.





God is revealed in Jesus.

20. John 14:9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

21. John 17:25-26 “Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me. I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.”





Finding God

22. Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.





Reminders

23. Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

24. John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

25. Psalm 14:2 The Lord looks down from heaven on the entire human race; he looks to see if anyone is truly wise, if anyone seeks God.





Bonus

Psalm 90:2 Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the whole world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God.

Revelation 21:8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”



Repent now and be saved. Choose life over death. No matter how much we hate death and want it to go away forever, fact remains: Death exists.

Choose life so that you might live.

God bless you.

Elohim1:
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Can we find any sect as hardy as the atheists? I bet this dude didn't read the article and was just in a hurry to sound reasonable. It's sad that no amount of rational explanation can wave their hatred for God.

Let me see if I can address the memes above in the simplest way

1. The Bible was not written by people who thought slavery was right. However, the Bible records the history of the Israelites as a people and other early humans, boldly stating all they condoned and the inner workings of their various governments. If the writers of the Bible were half as dubious as atheists, they will carefully omit those parts that show the wrath of God, and paint God in a very acceptable way.

2. Christianity was not imposed on the blacks, slaves could adopt their masters religion. The is no evidence of force being used to propagate christianity. (Catholicism or Islam may have used force), But what we know for sure is that Christianity and other religions brought about the development (Education in particular) that Africa needed.

3. Murdered? Who tries a lion for murdering a buffalo? Komodo dragons feed on their young ones, they are not blamed for murder. If you sell or destroy your phone in anger, you are not blamed for wickedness (and you didn't even create your phone). How much more a creator taking what he created.
My point is this: The "Word murder is meant exclusively for man". When you use such word for God, it only shows that you have reduced God to a man, which is precisely what most atheists do.
As for the destruction of lots wife, you can get your answers HERE.

4. Morality is not a social construct. The article has handled that already. Canada legalized bestiality, does not make bestiality any less sick.


Next time, read first. Don't be in a haste to hand wave it away. That is what open mindedness means.

So if you are an atheist, there's no need to be in a haste to argue . Seems like what all of them in here know how to do. Just read and try to make some sense of it.

Atheists frequently accuse Christians of behaving “immorally” and religion of being “evil.” But such objections to religion bring up an interesting question: how do secular humanists or atheists define evil and morality and by what authority do they make such statements?




Nothing but Subjective Opinion

For the atheist or secular humanist, there is no foundation for morality besides his or her own subjective opinion. These individuals often throw around words such as evil, immoral, moral, or ethical, often in the context of Christian religion or Christian individuals. They will say things such as “religion is evil” or that teaching creation to children is “child abuse,” but what do they mean by these phrases?

In their worldview, what makes anything immoral or wrong? Really it boils down to nothing more than their opinion. They believe that something is wrong, and therefore it must be. But who is to say that their opinion is the right one? After all, there are many different opinions on what is right and wrong. Who decides which one is right and which one is wrong?

That atheism and secular humanism cannot provide a foundation for morality is a strong argument. Here are a few responses that you may hear if you bring up this objection.




Society Decides Morality

Some atheists will argue that morality is simply decided by the society. For example, The American society has decided that murdering an innocent human being is wrong and therefore that action is morally wrong. But this kind of thinking simply does not hold up to scrutiny.

Society often changes its opinion. One clear example of this is in regards to gay “marriage.” What was considered morally wrong by most of society is now legal, applauded, and celebrated by some groups. In this view, homosexual behavior went from being morally wrong to being morally acceptable. What if our society decides that murder is acceptable, as it did in the case of Roe v. Wade when America legalized the killing of unborn children? Does murder suddenly become morally acceptable too? What about adultery, stealing, lying, or any other manner of morally reprehensible actions? Would the atheist or humanist accept a society that decides that society can kill all atheists and humanists? If society is the moral compass, then the compass never points north but rather jumps all over the place and changes with every generation.

Also if society determines morality, how can one society tell another society what is right or wrong? Most people would agree that the abhorrent actions of the Nazi death camps were morally wrong. But why? Nazi Germany decided as a society that these actions were morally acceptable. What right does our society have to judge their society if morality is simply a societal preference?

Or what about certain radical Muslim groups? Few would agree that blowing up innocent civilians, slaughtering hundreds of people from other religious groups, kidnapping and enslaving young women, or using children as suicide bombers is morally acceptable. Yet if morality is simply a societal preference, what right does our society have to tell their society that their actions are wrong and must be stopped?

The consistent atheist or humanist can say nothing if that is the ethic a society has decided is right. In this view, the atheist, based on his arbitrary opinion, might not agree with their ethic, but he has no rationale to say anything or try to put a stop to it. If morality is simply decided by societal preference, it fails to make any sense and becomes arbitrary, subject to change by time and culture.




Human Reason

The problem only gets worse when you break it down to a personal level. Some secularists will argue that morality is an individual decision and no one has the right to tell another person what to do (this is called “autonomous human reason”). Of course, the irony of such a statement should be evident. By saying that no one should tell someone else what to do, they have just told someone else what to do!

If secularists really believed this, then they couldn’t say “religion is evil” in the first place since it is not their place to say.

If this view of morality is true, then our justice system cannot exist. After all, why should one judge, legislative assembly, or government body impose their view of morality on another individual? If stealing, killing, raping, or abusing is right for one individual, what gives another individual the right to say that view of morality is wrong?

Now this personal morality or human reasoning view stems from the idea that people are basically good and that, left on our own, humans tend to do right and not wrong (again, who defines right and wrong?). But humans aren’t basically good! Human experience shows that throughout history humans have committed atrocities, even in our supposedly enlightened Western world. The Bible describes the fallen human heart this way:

“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9)
And the Lord smelled a soothing aroma. Then the Lord said in His heart, "I will never again curse the ground for man’s sake, although the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; nor will I again destroy every living thing as I have done. (Genesis 8:21)
To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled. (Titus 1:15)

Autonomous human reason simply does not provide a sufficient foundation for morality.




Did Morality Evolve?

From human experience, we seem to naturally and intuitively know that actions such as murder, stealing, and child abandonment are wrong for all people everywhere. But where does this intuitive sense come from?

Evolutionists, by necessity, believe that morality (along with everything else) is simply the result of evolution. Somehow after billions of years of death, struggle, atrocities, disease, and suffering, man realized that we should strive to do the opposite! Man should oppose survival of the fittest and try to be moral. In their worldview, we are nothing more than highly evolved animals, and our brains are nothing more than chemical reactions. We are simply the product of our DNA.

This view raises the question of how the strictly naturalistic process of evolution leads to the development of an immaterial, absolute moral conscience that somehow applies to all people everywhere? And what happens if this conscience evolves? Does morality change again?

And furthermore, if we are simply animals, why are we held morally accountable? After all, we certainly don’t hold animals accountable for their actions. No lion court exists to punish lions that maul gazelles to death and then eat them. No one jails a female cuckoo for abandoning her babies or forces male rabbits to pay child support. These are simply the things animals in this cursed world do, and no one faults them for doing it. If we are just animals, what makes humans so different?

The problem gets even worse if you argue that our brains are nothing more than random chemical reactions and that we are at the mercy of our DNA. If we are just programmed DNA, then how can we be held accountable for any of our decisions? Because there is no free will in a view such as this, there is no accountability for decisions or actions.

Morality simply cannot be the result of naturalistic processes over millions of years. This view does not hold up to close examination, and really it is the opposite of what we know to be true from human experience and the Bible’s teachings.




Moral Atheists?

When faced with their worldview’s inability to provide a foundation for morality, many atheists respond by claiming that you don’t have to be religious to be moral. It’s true that plenty of atheists are moral citizens. But those who argue this way have missed the point.

Atheists certainly can be moral. Actually, starting with a biblical worldview, this is to be expected. God has put His law in all our hearts (Romans 2:15) so even atheists, who claim that they don’t believe in the Creator God, can adhere to this law and be moral. But the point is that they have no foundation for this morality in their own worldview. They have no basis for saying something is right or wrong, moral or immoral.




The Bible Provides a Foundation for Morality

Atheism cannot account for the existence of morality in their worldview. But what about the biblical view?

According to God’s Word, humans were specially created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). We are not animals, nor are our brains simply chemical reactions. As He has from the very beginning, our Creator holds us accountable for our actions (Genesis 2:17) and expects us to choose and distinguish between right and wrong.

As Creator, only God has the authority to tell us what is right and what is wrong. And this standard is not arbitrary. It is based on the unchanging character of the righteous, holy, and perfect Judge of the universe. For example, all murder is wrong because God has created us in His own image and forbids the taking of a human life (e.g., Genesis 9:6, Exodus 20:13; Romans 13:9).

God, the Creator, has given us the Bible, His revealed Word, which clearly lays out what is morally acceptable and what is not. The Creator provides a firm foundation on which we can base our morality.

What is more, God has placed His law in all of our hearts (Romans 2:15). We know right from wrong because of the conscience that God has given all of humanity. And we are held accountable to Him for our actions and decisions (Romans 2:1–16), based on this knowledge of Him that we have.

It should be obvious to anyone who has lived in this world that no one fully obeys God’s law. We all fall short of God’s perfect standard, as Scripture makes abundantly clear (Romans 3:23). We even fall far short of imperfect human standards! Why is this? Genesis gives us the answer.

The first two people, Adam and Eve, were created morally perfect, but they chose to rebel against their Creator (Genesis 3). No longer were they morally perfect; now they had a sin nature, which they passed on to each of their children (Romans 5:12–21). All of their descendants—every person on earth—is now a slave to sin (John 8:34) and in rebellion against God.

The Bible provides a firm foundation for morality and provides the answer for why all people have a moral conscience and why we cannot live up to this knowledge of morality. But there’s more.




The Answer Is the Gospel

Not only does the Bible explain why there is a universal moral code, why everyone knows it, and why no one can consistently live up to it, but the Bible also provides the solution to our shortcoming. When Adam and Eve sinned, they received the penalty that their rebellion deserved—death (Genesis 2:17). We all sinned and continue to sin in Adam, so we all deserve the penalty of death (Romans 5:12). No matter how hard we try, we can never live up to God’s perfect moral standard (Romans 3:23). We certainly are in a dire position, deserving nothing but condemnation and death.

But because of His great love for us and according to His mercy (Ephesians 2:4), the Creator came to earth as the God-man, a descendant of Adam just like us (1 Corinthians 15:45). But unlike us, He perfectly kept God’s law (Romans 10:4). He then chose to become sin for us (2 Corinthians 5:21), taking the sins of the whole world upon Himself when He died on the Cross (1 John 2:2).

He took death—the penalty that we all deserve—for us (Romans 4:25, 5:. But He didn’t stay dead. He rose victoriously from the grave, defeating death (2 Timothy 1:10; Hebrews 2:14). He now offers forgiveness and eternal life to all who will repent (Acts 3:19), believe (John 3:18), and trust in Him (Romans 10:9).

Only the Bible provides a consistent foundation for morality that applies to all people everywhere. And only the Bible provides the hope that we need through the person of Jesus Christ, our Creator, Savior, and Lord.


Source; https://answersingenesis.org/morality/do-secularists-have-foundation-morality/


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naijadeyhia:
And the fear of Revealgebra is tantamount to no brain.

E be like say you get hn time today.

frank317:
Oh, I still do, when it's necessary.

But... I think I am beginning to understand Christians. I just realized that the real reason why I check up on Nairaland is because I really want this 'i am serving God, you are not... my God is the true God, yours is not.. God will punish u for not loving and acknowledging him like I do"issh to stop.

But I just realized ... u can't be a Christian or a Muslim and not think u are the one in contact with the one true God. It's their joy... taking that away from them will only make u a threat.


Anywayz I can only try... even though it's tiring.

I'm sorry, I just have to say this. For the first time, you wrote without a viperous intent.
Good change there.

I do not condemn people who truly worship other gods. Its God's work to convert them. We can only pray and hope.

Belief in the supreme is innate. Its good you can now see why this campaign wont lead anywhere.

If people in the 11th century could hope that religion dies out, we can only wonder why it is still stronger than ever today.

naijadeyhia:
This your DOCTOR OF US which you shortened to DOCTOFUS is eating away at the little sanity you have left.

Tell DOCTOR OF US and its revealer Reveralgebra Dobingo to stop forcing people to use their brain. If people were not using their brain already then you would have no internet to propagate his DOCTOR OF US through his mad revelations to an Ote

lol, dobingo, Bingo sounds much better. lol

otemdomino:
Samuel, lying is a philosophy of Satan(Jehovah) and not a philosophy of GOD. See here the lies told by CALEB and his People in the DOCTUFOS:

Doctufos 6:13-18
[b]13. Now as soon as Jehoshua had entered the land of Jericho, he gave the charge of the other spies into the hands of Caleb and himself went into the midst of the city with boldness. And the people who were spying at the Anakims and the sons of the anakims in that land were shocked when they saw the stature of the homos. And they said, we are like grasshoppers before this people. O Caleb, let us return to our own land and report to Moussa all that we have found.
14. Then Caleb said, Jehoshua is a courageous homo. I tell you the truth, he shall return to us with glad tidings. As he has also said, he shall come back with the fruits of the land. Did you not remember how he defeated the people of Ai? Did you forget so soon how he conquered many lands and is still conquering till now? And did you also forget how he made River Jordan into a dry land for us to pass through?
15. Now when the homos with Caleb heard his last statement, they yelled at him saying, be still O Caleb. For we know that we did not cross Jordan on dry land. Was it not with the ship we made that we did cross it? But till today, we knew not where the wood which we used for making the ship come from.
16. Why then do you lie to us that we cross the river on dry ground? Then Caleb said, what do you mean by calling it a lie? What is the truth itself if not a lie which is believed by many?
17. For already a million homo has believed our testimonies of the ten plagues upon Egypt and the testimony of about 600,000 homo erectuses crossing the red sea. And with this amazing things did we make the hearts of our enemies submit to us. And we have conquered the Madian and the Amori and the Aitite with the terror of our news. Now tell me, if these things have been believed by many already, is it not the truth?
18. Then the people said, say what you wish but we cannot fight these giants because we are like grasshoppers before them. Then Caleb said, keep quiet, for we are only as tall as to their waists. Why then did you say that we are like the grasshoppers? [/b]

Well,

oglalasioux:
I believe you meant the reasons why you doubt the existence of god as preached by the religions.

Naah, Ive made my findings, you can make yours too.

otemdomino:
Here is your fictitious Jesus talking about hell fire as Eusebius directed it to do:
Mark 9:43-48 - And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

I dont know of any fictitious Jesus btw.


That you hate God or Hell will not stop both from existing.
Write more meaningless texts, cry all day. God may use your children as powerful evangelists for His word.
Then, you will realize that all your efforts over the years have been in vain.

otemdomino:
Okay make me a case study... I CAN'T GO MAD BECAUSE IT IS NOT WRITTEN IN THE DOCTUFOS THAT I SHALL GO MAD.

Just watch and see more and more people dumping religion to worship GOD through the direct use of their UNUSED BRAINS.

NOw concerning what you said that I indoctrinated myself by watching films and reading literature, IF IT IS THE holy spirit in you that tells you that, he is a big liar. Why? I didn't know that there's any name as ODIN until I began to receive the DOCTUFOS. Also, I have not gone through the Harry Potter story before. I only know that there's a story called HARRY POTTER.

ALSO, I DON'T HAVE ANY LITERATURE BACKGROUND. I DIDN'T STUDY LITERATURE OR ART COURSES IN SCHOOL AND I HAVE NOT WRITTEN ANY STORYBOOK BEFORE IN LIFE. ALL MY LIFE HAS BEEN DEVOTED TO STUDYING THE WORD OF yahweh(satan) until I HAVE ENCOUNTER WITH GOD DECEMBER LAST YEAR.

Just make sure you put your texts in writing, that way, you can laugh at yourself when eventually delivered.

otemdomino:
I will show you one now and expect you to find another lie for Cover up as Christians always do. Ayam coming very soon...

1. Pastor(LIAR) W. F KUMUYI
link: https://www.nairaland.com/3051892/hell-hotter-deeper-life-sinners/2

2. Avoidhellfire a nairalander

I'm sorry I didn't see Jesus Christ in any of the names you posted here.

I'm a christ-ian. Someone who wants to be like Christ, not a pastor or a nairalander.

Moreso, isn't it rational that people are warned in love to choose God over damnation

otemdomino:
But they just love HELL FIRE like anything.

Sometimes I wonder who indoctrinated you.
Over almost 3 decades of my life and i'm yet to see someone threaten another with hell.

otemdomino:
Exacrly what I've been telling them.

And you will keep telling us!

frank317:
As usual... the God in ur head is useless

Lol, Okay!

You dont give your long epistles anymore, whats up?

KingEbukaNaija:
Most depraved Christians are Catholics . With purgatory , no worries .

The catholic school were I served, i can boldly say, none of them really believe in God.

From the priests to the nuns to the seminarians, they were all pretending.

Some of them did not even know the meaning of atheism. But, will obviously find atheism more comforting than the damned catholic worldview.

KingEbukaNaija:
Lol . There have been atheists since the bible days . The bible also said adversities , persecutions , trials can test your faith in God . It has very little to do with having a healthy discussion with an atheist . Christians always win the arguments . That explains why you avoid winner01 's thread like a plague - you don't want to face an ignominious defeat . I understand bro

lol!!

HCpaul:
Go and pray cuz I want to go and read the Bible.

2am still on Nairaland

I wasn't trained like that as a Christian.

I want to go and read my theological books.

Good night.

Reading theological books wont help you.

Catholics are not "sinners", but it is clearly a different religion. A very empty one. Anything goes.

The bible will help you, not your catholic materials.

Who prays with beads, or give vain recitals, or pray to mary and so other obviously non-christian philosophies.

You are as weak as you were even now.

HCpaul:
ShoulD I expose you people's secret??

Yes please do. And try not to repeat what minority people have been saying for several centuries.

Its boring already.

HCpaul:
At least, Christians deserve a sense of belonging, just that it doesn't look sane to me any more and I doubt its reality with curiosity.

Everything about Christian and the entirety of religion is just the work and manipulation caused and invented by ancient primitive men who chose to substitute their ignorance and inabilities with an imaginary theory framed Bible.

The Bible is mere a manuscript of men (works of sane historical and fictional writers of old) rather than the message of any mythological being or diety.

I don't consider it as a bunch of lies since I know that men of old will at one point in their life want to satisfy their doubts, their unknown, and their inabilities with something less primitive and more superior.

They overestimated the complexity of the universe and chose to believe that it must have been the creative work of a higher or a superior being.

Am not opposing the fact that superior personalities do exist (at least aliens do) but what about some beings that we are superior to??

They coined a name for this superior being and framed it GOD (The triune personality) .

They did all that out of their own ignorance and eventually exhausted their lifetime in the pursuit of living in the realms of the supernatural. Loving an ever lasting life, they initiated the concept of Heaven and Hell.

Heaven for the Isrealites and hell for others.... I just don't get it.

Now, some men living in the generation of the sane still choose to follow the path of those primitive men and their organized precepts.

99% of Christians don't love God, Heaven, Supernatural and the likes but had to be enforced with the fear of Satan, hell, Darkness, Demon, Eternal damnation and the likes.

Is not thayt you really love to make heaven but you've been mentally and emotionally captured with the fear of hell, the judgement day and eternal damnation.

You really don't have passion for heaven, do you?

We are all atheist just that some smart folks among us are pretending.

If you were to live forever, what will you live for??

It is better to die for something that to live for nothing.

What is the essence of living forever when all you will live for is prayer (exempted), fasting (exempted), then what exactly? ?

Ok! You guys will all become a chorister and start singing a lifetime song with a single lyrics.

Hallelujah! Hallelujah!! Hallelujah!!!

OH! Sigh... Am out of the game.

It's now my time to fully relate with knowledge and become a companion of the wise, to implore, deploy and explore universal knowledge and to inventually become the pioneer of my own impacts and inventions.

We guys cannot just live forever with you guys cuz we may later rebel just like Satan did.

And mark my word, some of you guys will later rebel in the new heaven and the new earth when you are so bored and overwhelmed.

How will I spend eternity with folks that are deaply conceived with ignorance and insanity.

Even people that were alive during the ministry of Jesus didn't believe him, so how did you expect the computer age filled with scientific revolutions to give a damn at it??

Every religion is subject to fallibilism.

THE IGNORANCE OF RELIGION IS THE GREATEST IGNORANT TO EVER EXIST.

Those creative writers deserves to be accredited, to be titled as inventors for inventing the greatest ignorance to ever exist in the entirety of human race.

I love my life now for taken responsibility for the consequences of my actions and not putting the blame on some imaginary foes that never exist, knew me and not to talk of fighting me.

For your information, I didn't become a non - theist because I have any challenge which God failed to answer or whatsoever. My personality has long ago been contrary to such fallacious tales. I became an agnostic atheist because I love sanity and I choose to be sane by not encapsulating the religious concepts into my framework of scientific pursuit.

I did that in a legal way.

I only regretted my time used in defending the flaws in religion.

Jonnydon22, Ifeness, Kevor and other great atheist on Nairalands successfully did the job.

Kudos to sanity!!!

Its easier for catholics because catholicism is religion and nothing more.

The first time you landed on the religion section, i knew that you were weak and had little idea about christianity.

I remember replying one of your posts, I said: You are the reason people become atheists.

You thought it was an insult back then but it was not. I simply saw how weak your ideas of christianity were.


What has happened to you is a good example of when well studied atheism meets weak/empty christianity.

All your claims are what atheists have been making from time immemorial, nothing new.

Well, Thumbs up to your new life. I hope you find what you seek.

If you are reading this and are really honest. Just pray one prayer:

KingEbukaNaija:
I wonder how someone can see a fine pristine thread like this and even attempt to stain with some long incoherent rubbish talk . The idea behind this atheist's motives is that if we mock his new found religion we are indirectly mocking Christianity .

Christians are willing to die for God , is he willing to die for his god in defense of his belief ? The obvious answer is no .

If he continues this way , his own motives will backfire and the delusion will start eating him up . There are many people like that in the mental hospitals and psychiatric wards .

He's desperate. So are the other atheists.
I do not think any atheist have rebuked him or his nonsense. It further confirms my stand.

Atheists will put up with: anything-but-God.

KingEbukaNaija:
Atheists are really funny people . If evil does not exist , how is God then evil . If good does not exist , why should we now show acts of solicitude

Why is there so much confusion . Dalaman , why ?

Be prepared my friend, dalaman will explain it away. Anyone can explain anything away.


The late Australian philosopher John Smart reveals the lengths that he would go to in order to explain away a miracle if he witnessed one: “someone who has naturalistic preconceptions will always in fact find some naturalistic explanation more plausible than a supernatural one… Suppose that I woke up in the night and saw the stars arranged in shapes that spelt out the Apostle’s Creed. I would know that astronomically it is impossible that stars should have changed their positions. I don’t know what I would think. Perhaps I would think that I was dreaming or that I had gone mad. What if everyone else seemed to me to be telling me that the same thing had happened? Then I might not only think that I had gone mad – I would probably go mad”

naijadeyhia:
If God does not exist then the Nice attack in france is not evil.

That is why the word reprobate exists.

Atheists dont really care about human life, i proved that in one of the points I made in this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/3228922/32-reasons-why-continue-believe


They claim to be against the negative effects of religion, but over 200 people have lost their lives to combined attacks of islamic sects in the past 2 weeks. Hardly would you find them opening threads against islam.

They dont really care about a lie. They care more about the truth. God is the truth.

And so when next we wonder why they are so concerned with christianity, just know that: Christianity is where the power is.

God's word is so real that they need to fight it cos of their hatred.

princefunmmy:
Nothing Could be confusing as trying to deny the existence of God. Many books have been written trying to prove that God doesn't exist, but Just the Bible is all you need to know that God exist... I'm yet to see a good and intelligent proof that God doesn't exist.
#Almighty_Eternal_God

They keep telling us how much they want to better the world, but in reality all they want is that people join them in not believing in God.

KingEbukaNaija:
winner01 , I really enjoyed this great piece . There is one irrefutable conclusion : Atheism has nothing to do with logic or reason and atheists have this disposition to be malignant towards religious people . They have that tendency to abuse the rights of people and impose their atheistic views on people - this even means death if you fail to agree with them if they have the discretion to do so.

So intolerant!. History have proven that atheistic states have been a disaster.

God can't be mocked.

naijadeyhia:
This is someone else's thread and not your playground. Take that crap off.

Please just ignore all that.

naijadeyhia:
Even Otem dobingo in some wacky way seems to agree about the existence of God.

Winner01 this is a piece worthy of publishing. May I have the rights? Its brilliant! God will forever remain God.

Ignorant ones do view God like when a new born baby enters a room full of swirling lights of different colours. They are amazed yet in their small minds would try to assume anything in order to explain the lights.

Awesome bro.

You have every right my brother.

Thanks and God bless you real good.