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ganisucks:
Rallies are inconsequential when it comes to electoral run. The most important aspect of a Presidential campaign is perception and message. If you fail in this two parts, your campaign is as good as comatose.

I agree with you

Abdul05:
Unbelievable. ...

The road is blocked from mushin down to the stadium ...l am treking right now

This rally is a massive rock.

Peter Obi will teach Jagaban how to do rally when he comes to Lagos.

You know what’s up na

ALTERNATEID:
Lagos is fully Batified.

Lol, the best he can get in Lagos is 55%

Gbabe paid rally

Aemmyjah:
You're fooling yourself
This is a public forum not a private conversation
Your assumption has made the brain look like a toy

I understand that people can get frustrated when they are losing a debate and somehow resort to insults. I won’t follow a pig to the mud anyways

Yes, the brain is part of the central nervous system and lower animals have power of sensitivity like jellyfishes and worms, etc. Some are well developed and others are poorly developed.
That of mammals is far distinct than that of common animals

how does this resolve the issues you rose with respect to where brain evolved from?
Are your sure you have any degree in biology?

If you are truly an evolutionary biologist, you will agree with me that EVOLUTION does NOT bring about complexity
The brain is a marvel of design. Only people like you try to trace it to lower forms of life

you don’t even need evolution to understand the brain, you only need basic neuroscience knowledge to do that.
I had a course dedicated to that while in school, even as an undergraduate studying biochemistry, we studied neurotransmission.

It’s not really very hard to grasp like you are making it seem.

Which telaviv university? The One is Israel/Palestine or the one in makoko island?

The one is Isreal, it’s ranked one of the best universities in the world BTW.

Show us here of just one, 1 incidence of how a DNA was created
Even if was, it represents what? That DNA could come by chance or an intelligent designer?

if you actually studied biology, you would have known that artificial cells exists and you may also know that DNA can be synthesized an-initio from primary elements. This is like 1950s biochemistry and you are still not getting it
We have 10100000 examples of those on the internet but you won’t read or bother to check.

You'll never see any design of creation if not for short sightedness. Even many blind people believe in a creator, you with eyes can't see

i agree that I am shortsighted, i wear glasses for that, I guess is one of the many errors in the so-called design

Aemmyjah:
He's talking nonsense
Nonsense!!

Gravity, cells are facts cos they can be proven experimentally and there is no heated argument about gravity today. What about Evolution? Yet you call it fact

If evolution is not fact then why don’t you use penicillin to treat typhoid anymore?

If evolution is not fact then why don’t you look exactly like your siblings even as you come from same parents?

A book that tells us not to steal to love one another will lie about the origin of man right?
Which makes sense?
Man is a direct creation of God or that man was formed from some group of animals?

The books also tells us that snakes can talk, people can give birth without fertilization, earth is flat and can stop, earth is 6000years old.
Does that make any sense?

Adexgentle005:
This coming 2023 general election is going to be the most rigged election in the history of this country. With BVAS or no BVAS.

It’s going to be rigged in favour of Thiefubu or Atiku.

So I was discussing with 10 northerner friends in Abuja on the reason why Peter Obi should be the president of this country and they said it won’t happen.

He said cabals and northern elites won’t let PO near aso rock because of their selfish interest and other negative personal things he said.

He said if he wins, he won’t be sworn in or they’d use the military to stage a coup detat just like Abiola.

I know Peter Obi is what everybody needs right now from this APC government but how can PO beats the cabal to it?

so what should I do with this information.

I am still voting for Peter Obi anyways

Well, science is reliable, religion is not.

Scientists do not conspire to foil religion, but scientists are in the business of discovering facts, and facts foil religion because religions are collections of ancient storybooks about magic.

A lot people who will disagree here and vent their frustration about this will still use a scientifically made mobile phone and data to unleash because their god is incapable of making me know there beliefs from a such long distance, only science can do that.


Belief is irrelevant and inapplicable.

I KNOW that science has, is, and always be demonstrably, evidently, and objectively more reliable than religion.

Aemmyjah:
Hahahaha
You some something on google without clicking to read the full gist. Guy, I'm a biologist. So who is fooling who?

I am a Biochemist with masters in clinical chemistry and in evolutionary biology from the Telaviv university. So we can discuss this topic all you want.
You should get a refund form your school cos you learnt nothing there if truly you are a biologist.

Tell me the prehistoric sense organs that the brains evolved from and tell me why homo sapiens are far intelligent that older creatures?

genetic mapping shows that Brain evolved from prehistoric nerve nets. While a lot of animals with nerve nets are exticnt, examples of the ones we can see now are jellyfishes.

Are you sure you studies biology and you don’t know this?

You need evidence, look around you.

We have looked around and we still do not find evidence that your god created the universe, we think you made that up. If you think otherwise then you should tell us what you have seen by looking around

Aemmyjah:
They say we all have a common ancestor. From which we share evolution from. As to the origin of man, what does biology say? You'll have seen the diagrams as well. From monkey's to baboons to chimps to gorilla to some other unknown creatures down to the modern man, homo sapiens

stop asking us questions when you cannot provide any evidence. Having common ancestor doesn’t necessarily mean that a designer doesn’t exist. It only disprove the fraud in the Bible about Adam and Eve and divinity.
It doesn’t disprove other forms of god like deism. Get that

There are millions of 'inferior' monkeys and baboons, yet, there is no single survivor or 'superior' apemen

whats your definition for superior? How do you mean?
Do you means that humans are the most superior species? If yes, how?

If reproduction is the production of offspring similar to parents. At what point did a snake produce a crocodile. A crocodile produce a bird or a gorilla produce a man

snakes did not produce crocodile, that’s not how evolution works.
It’s a jargons portrayed by creationists who have poor grasp of biology

We don't have any interlinking species to believe theory of evolution.

we have so many interlink species, you jus have to sit down and read to find them instead of arguing blindly

Besides scientists don't agree on it, yet they call it a fact.

studies shows that 98% of biologists agree with evolution

They don't agree on its definition but they call it a fact. The basis Darwin used to come up with such theory is not obsolete, yet they call it a fact. Darwin did not agree that the eye is a product of evolution but today they say the eyes evolved from some patch or radiating light

Show me a verified article saying this

They call it a scientific fact and theory but it did not follow steps to scientific analysis. They'll see a old skull or half skull and quickly reconstruct it into an organism. How can you use a skull and then know the positions of the arms, legs and organs but they want us to believe as if we put our brains in the pocket..

another poor grasp of science.
Scientific theories are not facts, they are the best we use to explain facts.

Facts are natural phenomena that are undebatable like cells, atoms, gravity and evolution etc
Theories are explanations of facts and they are fallable.
Atomic theory explains atoms
Cell theory explains cells
General theory of relativity explains gravity
Synthetic theory of evolution explain evolution.

The theories are not facts, the phenomena they explain are facts. Evolution, atoms, gravity and cells are facts

Cause and effects points to a Creator
Laws must have a lawgiver points to a Creator
Design must have a designer points to a Creator

good, then who created the creator based on cause and effect

Life comes from life points to a Creator

which live have birth to the creator?

If there is no creator, your existence on earth is meaningless and purposeless. Do you believe that?

ye, this is true.
There is no purpose to life in the real sense considering the evidence we have available

Aemmyjah:
1. Do you read science books at all. Go and read them to answer your number 1 especially biology

you seem to be the person who doesn’t understand science, you since you do not know that DNA can be created in the lab.

2. Was your brain designed or a product of non intelligence?

the Brain was not designed, it evolved from prehistoric sense organs. The evidence is almost everywhere for this

3. Who said otherwise? Go back and read what I wrote. I was comparing the power of a baby's brain to that of an adult mammal

.

4. The processes are complicated for scientists to understand HOW? But why do they have those senses? Who gave them those senses? A intelligent creator or they came by chance?

5. Ask Google

if you have evidence that your god created everything, kindly show us

DJInfluence:
No, by all means pls enlighten me.
What will you call this blabbing? Does any of this make sense to you?

A conspiracy theory is an explanation for an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful groups, often political in motivation, when other explanations are more probable.


What’s the probability that Jesus was given birth by Mary who never had sex happen to the fact that Mary lied and we have never seen a virgin give birth without fertilization from Y-chromosome donor.

Of the two, which is a conspiracy theory

Political jabs don’t win elections dude

Y

Aemmyjah:
Hahahah
You are ridiculous
Did you even read the article and follow the process
Yes, it can be synthesized, altered and translated. It can be separated and stored. It is like you have problem with the word 'created'

please kindly tell me the meaning of synthesis in scientific terms.

Cos I don’t get it.

You can make purines and pyrimidines in the lab, turn them to nucleosides, then nucleotides that will then form nucleic acids like rna and DNA.

Did you skip biology class?

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Aemmyjah:
Big shame, all your comment are read and a bunch of sham

Even if the paint keep fading, whether anyone interferes or not, it had a PAINTER. full stop. Just as if u see a new coin on the bottom of an ocean floor, common sense will tell you someone dropped it . even if na old coin

I agree with you that my arguments are sham, it’s because I don’t like arguments, I only like evidence. Arguments will persist when people like you cannot provide evidence.
That been said, I am not saying that there’s no creator, I am not an atheist. I am agnostics.
So who created the painter?

Tell me who created the painter if the paint must have a creator
There’s no full stop, it’s a vis koi’s cycle and infinite regress

We can feel gravity, we can measure time, temperature, etc. We can't see space though
What about the water cycles, oxygen cycles, rotation of the earth and revolution. Who made them to be that way? Who or what designed the cycles of life? Or it came by you?

I don’t know who made them, that’s why I am asking you for evidence

We can trace with facts and records about traffic laws cos they were MADE BY HUMANS and we can still observe and make ours. What about the ones we can to meet in the universe like the gravitational laws, etc. It was not humans that made them but they provide more guidance and direction to planetary bodies more accurate than human traffic laws. Did this come about by chance or na you make am?

so give the a record of who made the gravitational law like we have that of those who made traffic law.
You latter has evidence.

As for abiogenesis, it was defeated by Louis Pasteur. You are looking for evidence to a dead theory. Keep looking

i don’t believe abiogenesis because there’s no evidence of it yet. There’s also no evidence that your god created it.
The only evidence that we have is that everything evolved from something.

As to your claims of intelligence (which is not even generally agreed by scientists both religious and non religious), lemme ask, why are our ancestors the chimps and gorilla (as sciences wants us to believe) not intelligent half as we are.

I don’t know, do you know why? Tell me

The gulf between the intelligence of humans and the chimpanzees is far greatest than the similarities between same chimps and ants. These ones act on instinct. It's funny you yourself said it is not a universal fact cos I won't dispute FACTS. We all have brains as other mammals do. Do human babies make use of such cognitive abilities or you will tell me that a adult gorilla has more cognitive power than an infant? If you say so, you'll be most ridiculous. If you say otherwise, you're biting yourself. What about ants? Do they dedicate it too cos we humans too study them? What about the migratory clock of birds.

you think humans are very intelligent?

Humans crated atomic bomb, have you seen a rat create a rat poison capable of killing all rats in existence?

A goat sees a car approaching, things have to occur in his nervous system that will make it leave the road and it's part of irritability as we sense danger and respond to it. Only a dead goat cannot as all the systems and brains are dead? Who designed this ability? An intelligent designer or it came by accident?

I don’t know how it came but we know that the goat inherited that brain from other species that were or not goat.
We also know that the brain was actually not created by evolved from a premitive kind of sense organ. We are yet o see any designer there unless you show us with evidence

We humans can think plan, invent, sing, dance, learn a new language and try to find purpose in life. Do you agree or you want to be in same page with a goat?

even ants plan and can communicate by chemical languages.
Can humans communicate by chemical languages?
Every species has its strengths and weaknesses

I watched a movie and I saw a car, it was driving but there was no driver in it, only a passenger. It will stop by itself during traffic, overtake cars, slow down, make signals to warn other cars, even hoot. I'm not sure the passenger was controlling it as he was drunk, dead drunk and the car took him to his destination next morning. Did those things evolve by itself in the cars or a product of intelligent car makers?

it’s called artificially intelligent car and we know with evidence who created it, we don’t have evidence for created the first life.
That’s the difference

Go and make research on bionics or biomimicry. I rest my case

why do you think that I don’t know about this already?

Aemmyjah:
Go and make or create a DNA and I'll accept your notion

What are you talking about?

DNA can be created since early 50s. Created DNA can be translated since then, recently a whole Genome of species was created hence the first aritidicial bacteria developed.

Are you stuck in 1900s?

Aemmyjah:
Biogenesis.
Go and ask anywhere in the world
Those who believe in Abiogenesis- that life can come from nonlife are on the same page as those who say earth is flat

so do you believe in biogenesis?

Aemmyjah:
Lol
Even some animals can detect and hide from danger pass. It's part of awareness

No scientists can daresay that DNA evolved by itself. The DNA is far too marvelous to have come by chance. If DNA is said of, how much more other organisms

Nope, DNA is not miraculous, the fact that you cannot grasp the basic concept of molecular biology doesn’t make it a mystery.

DNA evolved and we can easily trace that with simple gene mapping many species. The fact that genes evolved is why we can apply that natural process in artificial gene editing.

Mercury12:
Okay I'm done. No point going back and forth. You won't accept the truth.

can you see how illogical your reasoning is?

You posit that evidence cannot he found for spiritual things but forget that it gives room for a lot of unverifiable fraud including the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Lesson: everything must be tested with evidence, including all spiritual claims else it was made up. You cannot create an exception for your own spiritual stories

Mercury12:
Yes I have a soul and so is every other human irrespective of age, gender or race. It is humans true form

How can you find evidence of spiritual things through physical means. Not possible.. The higher beings simply don't play at human frequency and the human realm is different from the spiritual realm.

Human aren't just a thing. We god. We got a soul that death has no power over. This flesh what will rot away after every human death
It is the body that keep one alive in this realm of humans without it the soul can't live in this realm. There is life after death!.
That is why I said earlier that I always laugh at your lots that don't believe in the existence of God.
Y'all are really to defend demons that hate humans but insult God.Jesus, and other great prophets in both Holy books.

They deceive y'all with science but the ruler of this world aim is to win same many souls he told your like that doest exist.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster exist and he created Yahweh, how can you find evidence against that?

Why do you require me to provide evidence for that?

Aemmyjah:
Ask your fellow atheists scientists. Na dem talk am

If you see a piece of art by a beach but you don't see the painter, you'll conclude that it just came by itself

If you are there observing the paint fading and wearing off overtime without seeing anyone interfering, will you conclude that someone interfered?

Scientific theories states life CANNOT come from non-life and that is proven in the lab but they want us to believe that no living intelligent designer is credited with the making of the universe

which scientific theory states this?

As to the law of gravity, we know there is law of gravity but we can't see it or feel it but someone is responsible.

We can feel gravity and no one is responsible, gravity is why you are not jumping off the planet, we feel it.

Those who made the traffic laws, we have not seen them or the process but common sense tells us that somebody made them

we can trace with facts and records how traffic laws were made, that doesn’t apply to your god

Bionics is the study of nature to invent things or improve things. Yet they take credit for what they make but give glory from what they study to chance or mother nature

what do you mean?

You say I hold onto mythological tales, do you believe what some scientists say as to the origin of life that life came as a result of disturbances in a ocean or cosmic soup?

I don’t believe scientists on abiogenesis because they are yet tot provide evidence, it doesn’t mean that your god did it either

As to intelligence, they say it comes from disruption on nerve cells in the brain. They make us and our existence here to look like it is by accident

nope, intelligence comes from enlarged frontal neocortex of the brain. Evidence suggests that the more species dedicate to that part of the brain, the more cognitive ability they possess.

I believe life and then universe cannot have come by chance but an intelligent designer and Creator, so I am here on earth for a reason. If no Creator, life is purposeless and we're free to do whatever we can and no one should condemn us but why do we have conscience? Where does it come from?

this is your believe, it’s not a universal fact. It’s only your believe

If I see a car approaching quickly, my power of reasoning tells me to leave the road and away from the car. Did my power of reason come by chance? If there is no designer of the brain, why should I trust my intelligence or others intelligence in using what they produce or in making decisions

Even a goat will leave the road for an approaching car, how does This make your power of reasoning special?

israelmao:
I know whom l believe my God is living and not dead.My God doesn't need to acquire power He is power himself.

you don’t know anything, na brainwash

Mercury12:
Don't blame the person that made this statement.
It is a demon in him talking to mankind.
This ain't ordinary life. That is why I laugh at people that says there is no God

Its because you are an unintelligent religion person.

There’s no evidence for soul, do you have any?

Humans are animals by all standard and we are hackable. We can edit your gene and make you another thing if we want in science. You are hackable

DJInfluence:
Who's posting Qanon nonsense here. Conspiracy theorists are allowed here too?

do you even know what conspiracy theory is?

By all definition, religion is conspiracy theory

planetE:
It’s only a fool that believes there is no God. How can the immortal ONE be called DEAD

of course there’s is god. I am god

Only fools believe that I don’t exist

Dangrace01:
This wef are not sleeping with their agenda

I wonder y Christians are sleeping

Does god exist?

Roger3D:
Dumb stupid talk.

how?
Are you prone to suffer and poverty?

donphilopus:
I won't be surprised is this is a fake account/profile. You guys faked Soludo' son profile to look as if he was against his dad. There's nothing you guys can't do.

You have evidence that soludo son account was impersonated?

If Tinubu gets 5% southeast votes, na 4K up.

What’s the meaning of Yoruba lokan ?

I always tell these urchins that no be everyone wey you pay to come your rally go vote you.

Unlike that of Peter obi that is organic

Superwave16320:
Tinubu is already president living rent free in you Igbotic medulla all day everyday.

Dude, please don’t profile me tribally. Be civil and discuss like you are not an animal

Did I call any tribe in my OP? why are acting like an untamed animal?

LegendHero:
I’ve lost count of massive Tinubu walks across the country.

Lol. You must be a shallow thinker if you think rallies is a yardstick for who wins elections.

Any of the 4 major candidates can pull crowds in any rally

smokinloud:
To think Obi can would garner half of the votes Tinubu would have is like thinking That African country will win Qatar 2022

Its okay to make any claim, whether or not it confirms reality. It’s why we are in democracy, so you are free