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A rerun is most likely as other candidates cannot win as well with this

Munamoqel:
This simply means obi cannot not win . You need 24 which you cant even predict ( with questions Mark on Oyo ekiti Taraba ) _ 3 state then you need highest casted vote those 23 state are not having high voters register . The North West has about 38m votes and very active in polling units not on social media .and no 25 percent for obi there .so Mathematical obi cannot win .that the painful and mathetical truth .

Noblechykk:
Tinubu will win Lagos, no doubt but when judged politically, it would be a loss because the margin will be slim

That is what I think also.
There’s no way he can win massively. It’s not possible with what’s on ground in Lagos

dat9jaguy:
Mr Influencer, no talk wetin you no know. Stick to promoting artists and social events, this is above your intellectual capacity.

Lol, We have figures up there showing that APC has never won Lagos in a landslide.

It’s usually very close and I don’t see Tinubu overturning this

Bonijy04:
Tinubu is going to have more than 80% from Lagos and the rest of SW States even in OYO where PDP is there governor Tinubu all the way

Lol

Your thought is highly welcomed but very far from reality

garfield1:
There was no rigging from alimosho.mushin even gave more votes

Na we dey Lagos. We know what’s up.

In 2015, Buhari then polled 792,460 votes, while Jonathan got 632,327.

Buhari polled 580,814 votes to beat Atiku, who got 448,016 votes.

To be fair, one can argue that this election was mostly rigged, especially in Alimosho local government.

Today, With BVAS, rigging is traceable and harder, we will have clearer picture of voting patterns. ATiku is dead in Lagos, we have to agree.
Lagos is between Peter Obi and Tinubu. Tinubu maybe popular with the areas boys and some native Yorubas however not every Yoruba are his fan. There are right thinking Yorubas that won’t vote for him, a lot of them are my friends. Lagos is too cosmopolitan for Tinubu to clear, we have to agree.
The endsars saga will also work against him. He will not get votes from many Christian communities even within the Yoruba circle.

I expect Tinubu to win Lagos anyways, but the margin will not be huge if all things are equal.
I expect to see this figures

Tinubu: 50%
Obi: 40%
Others: 10%

Although, we Cannot totally overrule Peter obi winning Lagos If APC sleeps on it.
What’s your thought?

garfield1:
That means obi and atiku will share 45%.but buhari got 55% in lagos,tinubu will get more

That was then when we no get BVAS and Your Alimosho rigging was still possible.
Forget ATiku, ATiku na 5% him go get

hopexter:
So Tinubu paid everyone at the stadium to show up? You’re not wise. But if it’s Obi, they are true supporters. You see why Obi will never win? Who would vote for A biafran to be president of another country called Nigeria?

Guy, people are there in hope to get money.
Gbagbe story, Tinubu go win Lagos but e no massive . No argue with destiny

buhariguy:
atiku can get 10%.
But 60% is sure for Tinubu

who are the people that will give him 60%?

Anyways, my prediction for Lagos is

Tinubu: 55%
Obi: 35%
Others: 10%

buhariguy:
obi and atiku will share 40%,
Tinubu 60%

Leave Atiku. ATiku no get levels for Lagos.

He will be distant 3rd. Whatever happens, Peter Obi’s 30% is sure banker

dajo83:
He will get it in kogi gombe, Niger and Adamawa by God's grace

To be sincere, I do not see Peter obi getting 25% in any NE or NW state aside Taraba and Kaduna.
His best bet is Kogi, he needs to strike Kogi big time.
Kogi is very important

Kogi people are easier to convince than the chronic core northerners

RtrevEzeugo1:
That's my thought, and I also know unlike millions of Igbo and hausas scattered round the country, more than 85% of Yoruba's live in the south west.

Yeah, many Yorubas despise Tinubu because of his total lack of integrity and bad antecedents of godfatherism.

I am a realist. I cannot tell you for sure if Peter Obi will win this election but you see southwest, he will get at least 30% there

Peter Obi will defeat Atiku. All these cheap blackmails are over us

1. Abia
2. Anambra
3. Imo
4. Ebonyi
5. Edo
6. Enugu
7. Lagos
8. Ondo
9. Oyo
10. Rivers
11. Bayelsa
12. Akwa ibom
13. Corssrivers
14. Delta
16. Nasarawa
17. Benue
18. Abuja
19. Plateau
20. Taraba
21. kaduna
22. Ogun
23. Ekiti


He needs to work hard to grab 25% in Kogi, that’s his best bet. If he does, he will become the president of Nigeria without a rerun, else, he’s in for a rerun.

RtrevEzeugo1:
I read an article from this page July 31 2013
Where the ACN during fashola regime said Igbo's make up 45% of Lagos.

Please am Atikulated and all the Hausa's and Fulani's I patronize in Lagos are all Atikulated

Tinubu will do well in Lagos, but its very dicey.
He should try and do extremely well in other South western states.

My prayer na make God give us who go make this country better.

You think all Yorubas will vote Tinubu?
Come to Lagos and carry out a research on that.
Tinubu will win Lagos no doubt, but he will not win Lagos massively.

Obi will get 30% and above

2/3 of those attending Tinubu rally won’t vote for him. Because they are there to collect money

ganisucks:
Rallies are inconsequential when it comes to electoral run. The most important aspect of a Presidential campaign is perception and message. If you fail in this two parts, your campaign is as good as comatose.

I agree with you

Abdul05:
Unbelievable. ...

The road is blocked from mushin down to the stadium ...l am treking right now

This rally is a massive rock.

Peter Obi will teach Jagaban how to do rally when he comes to Lagos.

You know what’s up na

ALTERNATEID:
Lagos is fully Batified.

Lol, the best he can get in Lagos is 55%

Gbabe paid rally

Aemmyjah:
You're fooling yourself
This is a public forum not a private conversation
Your assumption has made the brain look like a toy

I understand that people can get frustrated when they are losing a debate and somehow resort to insults. I won’t follow a pig to the mud anyways

Yes, the brain is part of the central nervous system and lower animals have power of sensitivity like jellyfishes and worms, etc. Some are well developed and others are poorly developed.
That of mammals is far distinct than that of common animals

how does this resolve the issues you rose with respect to where brain evolved from?
Are your sure you have any degree in biology?

If you are truly an evolutionary biologist, you will agree with me that EVOLUTION does NOT bring about complexity
The brain is a marvel of design. Only people like you try to trace it to lower forms of life

you don’t even need evolution to understand the brain, you only need basic neuroscience knowledge to do that.
I had a course dedicated to that while in school, even as an undergraduate studying biochemistry, we studied neurotransmission.

It’s not really very hard to grasp like you are making it seem.

Which telaviv university? The One is Israel/Palestine or the one in makoko island?

The one is Isreal, it’s ranked one of the best universities in the world BTW.

Show us here of just one, 1 incidence of how a DNA was created
Even if was, it represents what? That DNA could come by chance or an intelligent designer?

if you actually studied biology, you would have known that artificial cells exists and you may also know that DNA can be synthesized an-initio from primary elements. This is like 1950s biochemistry and you are still not getting it
We have 10100000 examples of those on the internet but you won’t read or bother to check.

You'll never see any design of creation if not for short sightedness. Even many blind people believe in a creator, you with eyes can't see

i agree that I am shortsighted, i wear glasses for that, I guess is one of the many errors in the so-called design

Aemmyjah:
He's talking nonsense
Nonsense!!

Gravity, cells are facts cos they can be proven experimentally and there is no heated argument about gravity today. What about Evolution? Yet you call it fact

If evolution is not fact then why don’t you use penicillin to treat typhoid anymore?

If evolution is not fact then why don’t you look exactly like your siblings even as you come from same parents?

A book that tells us not to steal to love one another will lie about the origin of man right?
Which makes sense?
Man is a direct creation of God or that man was formed from some group of animals?

The books also tells us that snakes can talk, people can give birth without fertilization, earth is flat and can stop, earth is 6000years old.
Does that make any sense?

Adexgentle005:
This coming 2023 general election is going to be the most rigged election in the history of this country. With BVAS or no BVAS.

It’s going to be rigged in favour of Thiefubu or Atiku.

So I was discussing with 10 northerner friends in Abuja on the reason why Peter Obi should be the president of this country and they said it won’t happen.

He said cabals and northern elites won’t let PO near aso rock because of their selfish interest and other negative personal things he said.

He said if he wins, he won’t be sworn in or they’d use the military to stage a coup detat just like Abiola.

I know Peter Obi is what everybody needs right now from this APC government but how can PO beats the cabal to it?

so what should I do with this information.

I am still voting for Peter Obi anyways

Well, science is reliable, religion is not.

Scientists do not conspire to foil religion, but scientists are in the business of discovering facts, and facts foil religion because religions are collections of ancient storybooks about magic.

A lot people who will disagree here and vent their frustration about this will still use a scientifically made mobile phone and data to unleash because their god is incapable of making me know there beliefs from a such long distance, only science can do that.


Belief is irrelevant and inapplicable.

I KNOW that science has, is, and always be demonstrably, evidently, and objectively more reliable than religion.

Aemmyjah:
Hahahaha
You some something on google without clicking to read the full gist. Guy, I'm a biologist. So who is fooling who?

I am a Biochemist with masters in clinical chemistry and in evolutionary biology from the Telaviv university. So we can discuss this topic all you want.
You should get a refund form your school cos you learnt nothing there if truly you are a biologist.

Tell me the prehistoric sense organs that the brains evolved from and tell me why homo sapiens are far intelligent that older creatures?

genetic mapping shows that Brain evolved from prehistoric nerve nets. While a lot of animals with nerve nets are exticnt, examples of the ones we can see now are jellyfishes.

Are you sure you studies biology and you don’t know this?

You need evidence, look around you.

We have looked around and we still do not find evidence that your god created the universe, we think you made that up. If you think otherwise then you should tell us what you have seen by looking around

Aemmyjah:
They say we all have a common ancestor. From which we share evolution from. As to the origin of man, what does biology say? You'll have seen the diagrams as well. From monkey's to baboons to chimps to gorilla to some other unknown creatures down to the modern man, homo sapiens

stop asking us questions when you cannot provide any evidence. Having common ancestor doesn’t necessarily mean that a designer doesn’t exist. It only disprove the fraud in the Bible about Adam and Eve and divinity.
It doesn’t disprove other forms of god like deism. Get that

There are millions of 'inferior' monkeys and baboons, yet, there is no single survivor or 'superior' apemen

whats your definition for superior? How do you mean?
Do you means that humans are the most superior species? If yes, how?

If reproduction is the production of offspring similar to parents. At what point did a snake produce a crocodile. A crocodile produce a bird or a gorilla produce a man

snakes did not produce crocodile, that’s not how evolution works.
It’s a jargons portrayed by creationists who have poor grasp of biology

We don't have any interlinking species to believe theory of evolution.

we have so many interlink species, you jus have to sit down and read to find them instead of arguing blindly

Besides scientists don't agree on it, yet they call it a fact.

studies shows that 98% of biologists agree with evolution

They don't agree on its definition but they call it a fact. The basis Darwin used to come up with such theory is not obsolete, yet they call it a fact. Darwin did not agree that the eye is a product of evolution but today they say the eyes evolved from some patch or radiating light

Show me a verified article saying this

They call it a scientific fact and theory but it did not follow steps to scientific analysis. They'll see a old skull or half skull and quickly reconstruct it into an organism. How can you use a skull and then know the positions of the arms, legs and organs but they want us to believe as if we put our brains in the pocket..

another poor grasp of science.
Scientific theories are not facts, they are the best we use to explain facts.

Facts are natural phenomena that are undebatable like cells, atoms, gravity and evolution etc
Theories are explanations of facts and they are fallable.
Atomic theory explains atoms
Cell theory explains cells
General theory of relativity explains gravity
Synthetic theory of evolution explain evolution.

The theories are not facts, the phenomena they explain are facts. Evolution, atoms, gravity and cells are facts

Cause and effects points to a Creator
Laws must have a lawgiver points to a Creator
Design must have a designer points to a Creator

good, then who created the creator based on cause and effect

Life comes from life points to a Creator

which live have birth to the creator?

If there is no creator, your existence on earth is meaningless and purposeless. Do you believe that?

ye, this is true.
There is no purpose to life in the real sense considering the evidence we have available

Aemmyjah:
1. Do you read science books at all. Go and read them to answer your number 1 especially biology

you seem to be the person who doesn’t understand science, you since you do not know that DNA can be created in the lab.

2. Was your brain designed or a product of non intelligence?

the Brain was not designed, it evolved from prehistoric sense organs. The evidence is almost everywhere for this

3. Who said otherwise? Go back and read what I wrote. I was comparing the power of a baby's brain to that of an adult mammal

.

4. The processes are complicated for scientists to understand HOW? But why do they have those senses? Who gave them those senses? A intelligent creator or they came by chance?

5. Ask Google

if you have evidence that your god created everything, kindly show us

DJInfluence:
No, by all means pls enlighten me.
What will you call this blabbing? Does any of this make sense to you?

A conspiracy theory is an explanation for an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful groups, often political in motivation, when other explanations are more probable.


What’s the probability that Jesus was given birth by Mary who never had sex happen to the fact that Mary lied and we have never seen a virgin give birth without fertilization from Y-chromosome donor.

Of the two, which is a conspiracy theory

Political jabs don’t win elections dude

Y

Aemmyjah:
Hahahah
You are ridiculous
Did you even read the article and follow the process
Yes, it can be synthesized, altered and translated. It can be separated and stored. It is like you have problem with the word 'created'

please kindly tell me the meaning of synthesis in scientific terms.

Cos I don’t get it.

You can make purines and pyrimidines in the lab, turn them to nucleosides, then nucleotides that will then form nucleic acids like rna and DNA.

Did you skip biology class?

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Aemmyjah:
Big shame, all your comment are read and a bunch of sham

Even if the paint keep fading, whether anyone interferes or not, it had a PAINTER. full stop. Just as if u see a new coin on the bottom of an ocean floor, common sense will tell you someone dropped it . even if na old coin

I agree with you that my arguments are sham, it’s because I don’t like arguments, I only like evidence. Arguments will persist when people like you cannot provide evidence.
That been said, I am not saying that there’s no creator, I am not an atheist. I am agnostics.
So who created the painter?

Tell me who created the painter if the paint must have a creator
There’s no full stop, it’s a vis koi’s cycle and infinite regress

We can feel gravity, we can measure time, temperature, etc. We can't see space though
What about the water cycles, oxygen cycles, rotation of the earth and revolution. Who made them to be that way? Who or what designed the cycles of life? Or it came by you?

I don’t know who made them, that’s why I am asking you for evidence

We can trace with facts and records about traffic laws cos they were MADE BY HUMANS and we can still observe and make ours. What about the ones we can to meet in the universe like the gravitational laws, etc. It was not humans that made them but they provide more guidance and direction to planetary bodies more accurate than human traffic laws. Did this come about by chance or na you make am?

so give the a record of who made the gravitational law like we have that of those who made traffic law.
You latter has evidence.

As for abiogenesis, it was defeated by Louis Pasteur. You are looking for evidence to a dead theory. Keep looking

i don’t believe abiogenesis because there’s no evidence of it yet. There’s also no evidence that your god created it.
The only evidence that we have is that everything evolved from something.

As to your claims of intelligence (which is not even generally agreed by scientists both religious and non religious), lemme ask, why are our ancestors the chimps and gorilla (as sciences wants us to believe) not intelligent half as we are.

I don’t know, do you know why? Tell me

The gulf between the intelligence of humans and the chimpanzees is far greatest than the similarities between same chimps and ants. These ones act on instinct. It's funny you yourself said it is not a universal fact cos I won't dispute FACTS. We all have brains as other mammals do. Do human babies make use of such cognitive abilities or you will tell me that a adult gorilla has more cognitive power than an infant? If you say so, you'll be most ridiculous. If you say otherwise, you're biting yourself. What about ants? Do they dedicate it too cos we humans too study them? What about the migratory clock of birds.

you think humans are very intelligent?

Humans crated atomic bomb, have you seen a rat create a rat poison capable of killing all rats in existence?

A goat sees a car approaching, things have to occur in his nervous system that will make it leave the road and it's part of irritability as we sense danger and respond to it. Only a dead goat cannot as all the systems and brains are dead? Who designed this ability? An intelligent designer or it came by accident?

I don’t know how it came but we know that the goat inherited that brain from other species that were or not goat.
We also know that the brain was actually not created by evolved from a premitive kind of sense organ. We are yet o see any designer there unless you show us with evidence

We humans can think plan, invent, sing, dance, learn a new language and try to find purpose in life. Do you agree or you want to be in same page with a goat?

even ants plan and can communicate by chemical languages.
Can humans communicate by chemical languages?
Every species has its strengths and weaknesses

I watched a movie and I saw a car, it was driving but there was no driver in it, only a passenger. It will stop by itself during traffic, overtake cars, slow down, make signals to warn other cars, even hoot. I'm not sure the passenger was controlling it as he was drunk, dead drunk and the car took him to his destination next morning. Did those things evolve by itself in the cars or a product of intelligent car makers?

it’s called artificially intelligent car and we know with evidence who created it, we don’t have evidence for created the first life.
That’s the difference

Go and make research on bionics or biomimicry. I rest my case

why do you think that I don’t know about this already?

Aemmyjah:
Go and make or create a DNA and I'll accept your notion

What are you talking about?

DNA can be created since early 50s. Created DNA can be translated since then, recently a whole Genome of species was created hence the first aritidicial bacteria developed.

Are you stuck in 1900s?

Aemmyjah:
Biogenesis.
Go and ask anywhere in the world
Those who believe in Abiogenesis- that life can come from nonlife are on the same page as those who say earth is flat

so do you believe in biogenesis?