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MaxInDHouse:
Well there are millions of people globally that are wholeheartedly worshiping Jehovah even if you don't take them to be sane but they'll never raise a weapon against their fellowman whereas you can't find a single group on this planet without killers amongst them. So who are the real sane people?

oga, provide measurable evidence and stop commiting fallacy of appealing to population.
The most popular opinion is not necessarily the correct one. That's a logical fallacy

XXXXTENTACION:
If majority of the christians read their bible they are likely to become atheists...

The Op doesn't know what he's saying.

He's confused.

If God is omniscient, it means everthing happening now is his plans, the moment we get freewill, it means that his plans are dependent on our decisions and that questions his omniscient nature.

You cant be omniscient and work with probabilities of humans. I don't know how religious people reason, I swear.
They always bring up flawed logic and defend it blindly.

I doubt they even know whatever is written in their Bible

TenQ:
So, why waste everybodies time by insisting that Gravitational Singularity was a Constant entity!?

gravitional singularity is not constant, total gravity is constant across the universe.

Basic physics knowledge would have help you get the difference.

TenQ:
So, why waste everybodies time by insisting that Gravitational Singularity was a Constant entity!?

Because you don't know physics, you don't know the difference between "gravitational singularity" and "constant gravity".

You have not grasped it, you are still confused.

TenQ:
As evasively as a slime!



You said: "Gravitational singularity IS THE Universe"
Doe the Universe fulfil BOTH of these conditions of a Singularity?
1. having a gravity/mass is extremely dense (its density tends to infinity)
2. having its size as extremely small (almost no dimensional size)

It is a YES or NO answer.

You just don't want to admit that the Gravitational Singularity that inflated to form the Universe is NO MORE. What we have in its stead is our UNIVERSE.

You see how simple the truth is?

It's impossible for an inflating universe to still have infinite mass and gravity. Don't you know physics?
Inflaton will increase volume, hence infinite gravity and density will disappear

You just need to know the relationship between mass, volume, gravity and density and the problem is solved. Go and read it then you will understand everything and stop asking stupid questions

TenQ:
Its because you are not answering the question.
SInce the gravitational singularity IS THE Universe,
Doe the Universe fulfil BOTH of these conditions
1. having a gravity/mass is extremely dense (its density tends to infinity)
2. having its size as extremely small (almost no dimensional size)

You won't ask number 1 question if you had understood the volume, mass and density relationships I explained. Please go back and read it.

Number 2 question: you won't ask the question if you understand the explanation I referred you to in number 1 answer

Ynix:
You made a mistake there, there are lots of pastors that are not rich, and some that are understands it well they don't worship money, only that they used the opportunity of how bastardized the economy of Nigeria to venture into social capitalism.
I strongly believe that many of you guys who criticize them cannot handle some pressures and temptation that come their ways. Anyways it is very easy to criticize

Yeah some

Kingsnairaland:
I don't think you read this post properly

Blaming God is a common response when life doesn’t go our way. Since God is supposedly in control of everything, the thinking goes, He could have stopped what happened. He could have changed the situation to benefit me; He could have averted the calamity. Since He did not, He is to blame.

In one sense, those statements are true. Isaiah 45:7 seems to validate the idea that God is to blame for everything that happens: “I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.” And Isaiah 46:9–11: “Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. . . . I say, ‘My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.’ . . . What I have said, that I will bring about; what I have planned, that I will do.” If God is willing to take responsibility for everything, then is it wrong to blame Him when disaster or heartache strikes us?

The word blame means “to find fault with.” Blaming goes beyond acknowledging God’s sovereignty. Blaming God implies that He messed up, that there is a fault to be found in Him. When we blame God, we make ourselves His judge and jury. But mere human beings have no right to pass judgment on the Almighty. We are His creation; He is not ours: “Woe to those who quarrel with their Maker, those who are nothing but potsherds among the potsherds on the ground. Does the clay say to the potter, ‘What are you making?’ Does your work say, ‘The potter has no hands’? Woe to the one who says to a father, ‘What have you begotten?’ or to a mother, ‘What have you brought to birth?’” (Isaiah 45:9–10).

When we are tempted to blame God, we can choose Job’s response and trust that He knows what He is doing (see Psalm 131).

You need to acknowledge that God knows what he is actually doing

And accept that his ways are the best
Now you need to understand that you did not create yourself and you don't own your self and you are not your own

God owns you and if he decides to nail you to the cross tell him nail me and if he decides to burn you up tell him God burn me up if he decides to save you tell him God save me

You need to see he is God and allow him to do as he will when you get to the level where you acknowledge you have no strength to help your self that is when he comes in to help you

Who created satan?

Kingsnairaland:
Did you read that post

I did, you are beating about.

Who created satan?

Ehiscotch:
That's why they are "charlatans". Please, this is an overflogged topic. A simple reading of the Bible explains this — if you aren't prejudiced.

What Bible text says you should pay tithe or you won't have money?

Kingsnairaland:
Blaming God won't still put you in the right position because you are not God

Now if God shows you why he does what he does and you see it you will shout to him to infact continue doing it the way he does it

That is the plane truth

You will marvel in the way he decides things
You will actually give glory to him and you will begin to tell everyone that he is a beautiful God

In fact you will acknowledge his the best God that is the beauty about God once he reveals an aspect of himself to you then you will see where he is going his purpose you will love him

Who created satan?

Kingsnairaland:
Every one of us was once a child of Satan so evangelism is bringing people from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of God

Which is the plan of God

But God created satan and he knew what Satan will become, it means Satan is God's divine plan. God is still the reason satan is causing chaos. It's God's plan for him to do it.

I hope you are critically thinking now.

TenQ:
Ia m not asking about the definition of the gravitational singularity.

I am asking for "the specific gravitational singularity that inflated to become the universe"
If it has inflated,
Do you consider the "inflated gravitational singularity" that inflated to form the universe to still be
1. having a gravity/mass is extremely dense (its density tends to infinity)
2. having its size as extremely small (almost no dimensional size)

The inflating gravitational singularity is the universe you are in today, you are making me repeat this.

The more you reduce the volume for a certain mass, the denser it becomes. This is basic physics

TenQ:
So you consider the "inflated gravitational singularity" that inflated to form the universe to still be
1. With Its gravity/mass is extremely dense (its density tends to infinity)
2. With Its size as extremely small (almost no dimensional size)

Is this what you are saying?

Yes, that's why it had "infinite" density and gravitational force.
The smaller you make a mass, it more dense it becomes and the more gravity it exacts. We have seen this in blackholes and neutron stars, read about them

Kingsnairaland:
Blaming God is a common response when life doesn’t go our way. Since God is supposedly in control of everything, the thinking goes, He could have stopped what happened. He could have changed the situation to benefit me; He could have averted the calamity. Since He did not, He is to blame.

In one sense, those statements are true. Isaiah 45:7 seems to validate the idea that God is to blame for everything that happens: “I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.” And Isaiah 46:9–11: “Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. . . . I say, ‘My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.’ . . . What I have said, that I will bring about; what I have planned, that I will do.” If God is willing to take responsibility for everything, then is it wrong to blame Him when disaster or heartache strikes us?

The word blame means “to find fault with.” Blaming goes beyond acknowledging God’s sovereignty. Blaming God implies that He messed up, that there is a fault to be found in Him. When we blame God, we make ourselves His judge and jury. But mere human beings have no right to pass judgment on the Almighty. We are His creation; He is not ours: “Woe to those who quarrel with their Maker, those who are nothing but potsherds among the potsherds on the ground. Does the clay say to the potter, ‘What are you making?’ Does your work say, ‘The potter has no hands’? Woe to the one who says to a father, ‘What have you begotten?’ or to a mother, ‘What have you brought to birth?’” (Isaiah 45:9–10).

When we are tempted to blame God, we can choose Job’s response and trust that He knows what He is doing (see Psalm 131).

You need to acknowledge that God knows what he is actually doing

And accept that his ways are the best
Now you need to understand that you did not create yourself and you don't own your self and you are not your own

God owns you and if he decides to burn you up tell him God burn me up if he decides to save you tell him God save me

You need to see he is God and allow him to do as he will when you get to the level where you acknowledge you have no strength to help your self they is when he comes in to help you

We have to blame God, he created satan and Adam, and everything is working according to his plans.
He should take the blame unless you think he doesn't know.

You don't need a Bible verse to reach this logic

TenQ:
If the gravitational singularity has inflated is it still a gravitational singularity BY DEFINITION?

Nope, it was.

TenQ:
Please Educate me!
Is the gravitational singularity (that inflated to form the universe) still in existence?

The universe was contained in the gravitational singularity that inflated.
It's still inflating to until date. It means that we are in that inflating singularity.

Read about redshift and the expansion of the universe to understand

Kingsnairaland:
As God is does not need to have two plans because he already knows Adam will fail

So if he knew Adam will fail, it means that God is the cause of the problems and not satan.

He created all the problems and should take the blame for it. It means that all the suffering, death and hardship today is God's plan.

Do you agree?

TenQ:
Where is it now?
Is it still in existence?

I knew you were going to ask an embarrassing question...

Do you understand big bang theory?

Kingsnairaland:
Yes because he knows no matter what he does you won't listen to him

So if God knows who makes hell and doesn't before everthing, so what's the purpose of evangelism and why are Christians still trying to convert people?

Would that not be trying to change God's plans?

Kingsnairaland:
Yes of course God knows all things

So, it means that he had two plans.
1. If Adam eat the fruit

2. If Adam didn't.


Right?

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Dtruthspeaker:
We made our cars to have blood (engine oils) and we have massively drank the "blood" of our evil cars!

So, you are a blood thirsty evil over your creations, Normal!

So, you can not complain.

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TenQ:
What do you mean by YES!

A gravitational singularity inflated in the beginning.
So what?
Make sure you research whatever you want to say properly, don't embarrass yourself.

Image123:
You have a mind of your own, no? Snake or snakes?

Stop asking stupid questions.
Your Bible said snakes talk and you believe it. That's makes you an idiot.

How can you beliebe snakes can talk under any circumstances? You don't have a working brain?

spartan117:
Lol whatever man.
Shalom.

Dude, don't get triggered when someone tries to talk you out of your delusions.

Cognitive dissonance

Kingsnairaland:
God knows what your free will will result into no matter what you decide it can never be above God's will or God's plan that is where our limits stops

You can't become God over night and over ride his own will because you don't have such authority or power

So it means God knows that I will go to hell even before I was born?

Image123:
Lol, you're a joker. Are you not sane enough to know that you are the chief rude one anytime you deride other people's gods or God?
You don't know anything or believe much about freewill and omniscience to make claims about exclusivity.

I'm sane enough to know that omniscient and freewill are incapatible.
I won't say they are to justify my imaginary friend

Ynix:
The essence of being a Christian is not to be rich it is to be good, to be a shining light

Your charlatan pastors don't think so

TenQ:
How many Gravitational Singularities inflated to form our universe?
It is a simple question!

If answer this one, you will bring another junk science.

OK yes, so what's next?

spartan117:
Stop talking like a fool. I'm a Christian and a programmer by profession, I use my brain to make money just like atheists in my profession do. God gave everyone five senses science is studied and understood by anyone who possesses those senses, it is not owned by anyone or by any religion.

It would also surprise you to note John D Rockefeller that the richest man to live in this modern era was a Christian.

To balance things up I would have to add that there is a spiritual aspect to wealth and riches. The billionaires know this, the politicians and celebrities also know this, whether they choose to tell you in public is left to them. But unfortunately I can't explain it to you because from what you posted here, it seems to be beyond your understanding.

You are the fool who did not get the message

Yes, Elon musk is a science guy and he's an atheist.

Don't allow the charlatans on pulpit make you think that your wealth lie on their altar. It's a lie

Personally, I am an atheist and everyone in my family expect me and one of my siblings are Christians, they still cannot make any big financial decision without us.

My boss is an atheist but he runs a multimillion naira company in Lagos. Sometimes he trolls the religious people among us.

Wake up, you are just enriching those thieves called pastors. You don't need church or any religion to be rich. You only need to work hard, get connected and a little bit of luck. The figures and statistics are clear on this.

The moment you start thinking in that light, you will start seeing a clear picture. My father tried to make me pay tithes, I refused. I warned him never to tell me about that, all my siblings that are still paying tithe are not doing better than me

Those things make you mentally lazy. Seriously, sometimes I just look at them and I pity them

MaxInDHouse:
The evidence you seek is what you can't get but the proof that Jehovah lives is right in the midst of His people.
Nobody will force you to believe in Jehovah, it's either you examine our proof or leave it and continue with your search for evidence.
Jehovah gave us reasons to believe and that's what we are presenting to whoever wants to know Him. But you telling us how He should prove Himself to you is not our business.
We will not force you to believe neither can you force us not to believe!

That's not evidence, your evidence need to be tested several times to produce same result. It has to be specific and measurable
If you come with the intent of convince me then you will ignore all evidence against jehovah and cherry pick what you like the be ready to get pissed.
No sane person will accept your jehovah of you cannot demonstrate beyond every doubt that he works.

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