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oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!



ATHEISTS ARE ALL FOOLS, WHO SUFFER FROM THE MENTAL DISEASE CALLED "ATTENTION-DEFICIT DISORDER."

This manifests as the inability to focus the mind to collate facts, in order to reach logical conclusions.

It is, in fact, nothing more than deliberate laziness. Atheists refuse to concentrate their minds on important relevant data, because they don't care about it.

Acknowledging parts of Truth obligates them to acknowledge other parts of Truth.

Parts which they don't want to know.

Atheists are always Sinners, and to acknowledge the Existence of Yahweh God means acknowleging that they will one day be held accountable for the wicked things they did to others.

Good people have no difficulty in believing in an Entity Who Promises Present and Future Rewards for their works, and, ignorant of what those Rewards are, have no problem in sitting down to hear what they are:

[color=silver].[/color] THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER.

(1) TOTAL RECALL.
(2) EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
(3) TELEKINESIS.
(4) TELEPORTATION.
(5) TRANSLATION.
(6-10) EVERLASTING LIFE.

Good people have no problem accepting and cultivating these SuperPowers.

Wicked people face practically insurmountable difficulties reversing their Evil Attitudes, and recognizing that they have been excrement their whole lives.

How much more, when the OBJECTIVE CHRISTIANITY Doctrine requires them to CONFRONT THEIR OWN SHITTINESS EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIFE, through TOTAL RECALL?

[color=silver].[/color] JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD,
THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT IS WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL,
IS UNDERSTANDING.' "

[color=silver].[/color] JOB 39:13-18.

13. "Gavest thou the goodly wings
unto the peacocks?
or wings and feathers
unto the ostrich?
14. "Which leaveth
her eggs in the earth,
and warmeth them in dust,
15. "And forgetteth
that the foot may crush them,
or that the wild beast
may break them.
16. "She is hardened
against her young ones,
as though they were not her's:
her labour is in vain without fear;
17. "Because God hath
deprived her of Wisdom,
neither hath He
imparted to her Understanding.
18." What time she
lifteth up herself on high,
she scorneth
the horse and his rider."

[color=silver].[/color] PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding
have all they
that do His Commandments:
His Praise endureth for ever.

[color=silver].[/color] PROVERBS 1:7.

7. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Knowledge:
but Fools despise
Wisdom and Instruction.

[color=silver].[/color] PROVERBS 9:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
and The Knowledge of
The Holy is Understanding.

[color=silver].[/color]   ISAIAH 55:6-11.

6. Seek ye The LORD,
while He may be found,
call ye upon Him
while He is near.
7. Let the Wicked
forsake his Way,
and the Unrighteous Man
his Thoughts:
and let him return
unto The LORD,
and He will have Mercy
upon him;
and to our God,
for He will abundantly pardon.

8. "FOR MY THOUGHTS
(ARE) NOT YOUR THOUGHTS,
NEITHER ARE YOUR WAYS
MY WAYS," saith The LORD.
9. "FOR (AS) THE HEAVENS
ARE HIGHER
THAN THE EARTH,
SO ARE MY WAYS
HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS,
AND MY THOUGHTS
THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.'

10. "For as the rain
cometh down,
and the snow from Heaven,
and returneth not thither,
but watereth the earth,
and maketh it bring forth
and bud,
that it may give seed
to the Sower,
and bread to the Eater:
11. "So shall My Word be
that goeth forth
out of My Mouth:
It shall not
return unto Me void,
but It shall accomplish
that which I please,
and It shall prosper
(in the thing)
whereto I sent It."

[color=silver].[/color] 2^nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout
the whole Earth,
to show Himself strong
on behalf of those
whose heart
is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth
thou shalt have wars.”

[color=silver].[/color] AMOS 3:3.

3. Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"

[color=silver].[/color] ZECHARIAH 4:10.

10. For who hath despised
The Day of Small Things?
For they shall rejoice,
and shall see the plummet
in the hand of Zerubbabel
with those seven;
they are The Eyes of The LORD,
Which run to and fro
through the whole Earth.

IT TAKES A MINIMUM OF SEVEN YEARS OF DILIGENT STUDY AND HANDS-ON EXERCISE FOR A RIGHTEOUS PERSON TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND THE WAY OF GOD- THERE IS NO WAY TO ACCELERATE THIS PROCESS.

It was the DUTY of your PARENTS to teach you This Way, growing up, between ages 13 through 20.

[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 6:1-9.

NOW these are the Commandments,
the Statutes, and the Judgments,
Which The LORD your God
Commanded to teach you,
that ye might do Them in the land
whither ye go to possess it:
2. That thou mightest fear
The LORD thy God,
to keep all his Statutes and His Commandments,
Which I command thee,
thou, and thy son, and thy son's son,
all the days of thy life;
and that thy days may be prolonged.
3. Hear therefore, O Israel,
and observe to do It;
that it may be well with thee,
and that ye may increase mightily,
as The LORD God of thy Fathers hath Promised thee,
in the land that floweth
with milk and honey.
4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love The LORD thy God
with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy Might.
6. And these Words,
which I Command thee this Day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach Them diligently
unto thy Children,
and shalt talk of Them
when thou sittest in thine house,
and when thou walkest by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.

IF YOUR PARENTS DID NOT TEACH YOU THE WAY OF GOD, IT IS BECAUSE THEY WANTED YOU TO DIE, AND THEY WANTED YOU TO LOSE YOUR SOUL.

No one is obliged to remedy this for you.

No one has to Save your Soul, and clean up the shit your parents shitted on you.

You are an abomination, with no intrinsic Right to Exist. Therefore, any help anyone gives you is an indulgence. No one owes it to you.

Gratitude and Respect are in order, to those who are trying to help you- even those who don't know what they are doing.

[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 25:11-19.

11. When men strive together
one with another,
and the wife of the one
draweth near
for to deliver her husband
out of the hand of him
that smiteth him,
and putteth forth her hand,
and taketh him by the secrets:
12. Then thou shalt
cut off her hand,
thine eye shall not pity her.

13. Thou shalt not
have in thy bag
divers weights,
a great and a small.
14. Thou shalt not
have in thine house
divers measures,
a great and a small.
15. But thou shalt have
a perfect and just weight,
a perfect and just measure
shalt thou have:
that thy days may be lengthened
in the Land which
The LORD thy God giveth thee.
16. For all that do such things,
and all that do unrighteously,
are an abomination
unto the LORD thy God.

17. Remember what Amalek
did unto thee by the way,
when ye were come forth
out of Egypt;
18. How he met thee
by the way,
and smote
the hindmost of thee,
even all that were feeble
behind thee,
when thou wast
faint and weary;
and he feared not God.
19. Therefore it shall be,
when the LORD thy God
hath given thee rest
from all thine enemies
round about,
in the Land which
The LORD thy God giveth thee
for an inheritance
to possess it,
that thou shalt blot out
the Remembrance of Amalek
from under Heaven;
thou shalt not forget it.

[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 7:1-6.

“JUDGE not,
that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what judgment
ye judge,
ye shall be judged;
and with what measure
ye mete,
it shall be measured
to you again.
3. "And why beholdest
thou the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam
that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother,

'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'

and, behold,
a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou Hypocrite,
first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote
out of thy brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy
unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls
before swine,
lest they trample them
under their feet,
and turn again
and rend you."

ABOMINATIONS DO NOT GET TO DICTATE HOW THEY GET HEALED: FOOLS SAY: SHOW ME A SIGN, AND I WILL BELIEVE IN YOUR GOD!

If you want such a Sign, go ask your Mommy. I am not your Mommy. Didn't the beard give that away? Neither am I your Daddy, either, no matter what your Mommy told you.

SIGNS AND WONDERS ARE TO FULFILL COMMANDMENTS OF GOD: THERE IS NO COMMANDMENT FOR PROVING THE EXISTENCE OF GOD TO ABOMINATIONS.

My Lord Yeshua refused to do it: why should I?

ATHEISTS ARE FOOLS TO SAY THAT ALL THE ANIMALS OF NOAH'S ARK CAME TO HIM FROM THEIR CURRENT GEOGRAPHIC LOCATIONS: ALL OF THE CHRISTIANS THEY EVER MET WERE IDIOTS, WHO NEVER LEARNED TO READ THE BIBLE, EITHER.

[color=silver].[/color] GENESIS 2:18-24.

18. And The LORD God Said,

"It is not good that the Man
should be alone;
I will make him
an help meet for him."

19. And out of the ground
The LORD God formed
every Beast of the Field,
and every Fowl of the Air;
and brought them
unto Adam
to see what he
would call them:
and whatsoever Adam
called every living creature,
that was the name thereof.
20. And Adam gave names
to all Cattle,
and to the Fowl of the Air,
and to every Beast of the Field;
but for Adam there was
not found
an help meet for him.
21. And The LORD God
caused a deep sleep
to fall upon Adam,
and he slept:
and He took one of his ribs,
and closed up the flesh
instead thereof;
22. And the rib,
which The LORD God had
taken from Man,
made he a Woman,
and brought her unto the Man.
23. And Adam said,

"This is now bone
of my bones,
and flesh of my flesh:
she shall be called "Woman,"
because she was
taken out of Man."

24. Therefore shall a man
leave his father and his mother,
and shall cleave unto his wife:
and they shall be one flesh.

ALL OF THE HUMAN RACE CAME FROM THE GARDEN OF EDEN, WHERE GOD MADE COPIES OF ALL THE ANIMALS HE HAD CREATED IN GENESIS 1, TO SHOW ADAM, TO SEE WHAT HE WOULD CALL THEM.

Therefore, everything Noah needed was close at hand.

Your inability to come to this logical conclusion based on provided facts, shows the shallowness and uselessness of your intellect, and the deficiency of your intelligence.

On that basis, you dare to pee on the Scriptures of God, and throw away your Eternal Destiny.

Just because you were too stupid and lazy to remember what you had read From The Beginning of The Bible.

Assuming you are not one of those fools who criticizes The Bible without even having read It before.

LET ME BE VERY CLEAR: YOUR SENIORS IN THE ATHEISTIC MOVEMENT KNOW ALL ABOUT THESE FACTS, TOO- THEY HAVE NOT TOLD YOU, BECAUSE THEY HATE YOU, AND WANT YOUR SOUL TO BE LOST- JUST LIKE THEIRS!



THE GREAT FLOOD WAS NOT "A BIT OF RAIN:" "A BIT OF RAIN" CANNOT DROWN AQUATIC MAMMALS.

[color=silver].[/color] GENESIS 7:11-12.

11. In the six hundredth year
of Noah's life,
in the second month,
the seventeenth day of the month,
the same day
were all the fountains
of the great deep broken up,
and The Windows of Heaven
were opened.
12. And the rain was upon the Earth
forty days and forty nights.

THE WATER THAT FLOODED THE EARTH DID NOT ALL COME FROM THE SKY.

It may not even have all come from this UNIVERSE. Much of It came from under the Earth. The shape of the Earth was very different. Aquatic Fossils, including WHALES, have been found on MOUNTAINTOPS- indicating that some of what we now call mountains were once SEA BEDS.



WHEN YOU ARE SO IDIOTIC AS TO IGNORE THE BASIC PREMISES, YOU CAN DISMISS THE TESTIMONIES AS "FOOLISH STORIES."

The Great Flood was something God Did once- and made sure could never happen again.



OH- YOU SAW GOD WHEN HE WAS DESTROYING THE EVIDENCE DID YOU? YOU SAW HIM CREATE EVIDENCE THAT THE GREAT FLOOD DIDN'T HAPPEN, DID YOU? WHO TAUGHT YOU THE QUALIFICATIONS TO EVALUATE EVIDENCE?

MOSES knew THE TRUTH about The Great Flood, BECAUSE GOD SHOWED IT TO HIM-

God offered to show YOU the same Truth, but you decided to BLASPHEME Him, instead.

He offered you THE POWER OF THE PROPHETS- but you urinated on his offer.



OYINBOS ARE WICKED SOULS, WHO HAVE MADE UP FAKE ATTRIBUTES OF GOD, IN ORDER TO HIDE GOD, AND TO JUSTIFY THEIR WARMONGERING, IMPERIALISTIC COLONIALISM- THEY SAY THAT GOD IS OMNIPOTENT, OMNIPRESENT, OMNISCIENT, AND OMNIBENEVOLENT- "IF HE DOES NOT WANT US TO SIN, HE WOULD SHOW US A SIGN!"

That is the basis of ATHEISM.

[See: ATHEISM: The Case against GOD, by George H. Smith.]

YAHWEH GOD HAS NEVER CLAIMED TO BE OMNIPOTENT, OMNIPRESENT, OMNISCIENT, NOR OMNIBENEVOLENT- THE FIRST FOUR CHAPTERS OF THE BIBLE RULE OUT THOSE ATTRIBUTES.

On what basis do you accused God of having these Attributes, and being wicked or foolish, or both, for not using them on our behalf?

There is no need to hurry to find an answer now: you have until JUDGMENT DAY.



ATHEISTS ARE EXTREMELY STUPID, AND ALWAYS MISS THE IMPORTANT POINTS: THE GREAT FLOOD WAS NEVER ABOUT ELIMNATING EVIL.

It was about saving THE ONLY PURE HUMANS- who were our Ancestors.

We would never have EXISTED if God had not taken punitive action to save our eight ancestors.

Yet the stupid Atheists vilify God for killing contaminated people of no importance to us, whatsoever.

All we know about the Antediluvian people was that they were so Evil, God has to get rid of them, to save our ancestors' lives.

But the Atheistic Idiots ignore the good God did us, and complain about the deaths of the people who were too wicked to be spared.



GOD WAS NOT THE ONE WHO ALLOWED EVIL TO PROLIFERATE IN THE EARTH- MAN WAS.

Humans partnered with False Gods and Devil's, who did nothing to save their faithful followers. It would have been easy for them to have done so.

Why didn't they?

Even because their goal was the DEATH OF ALL HUMANS WHO TRUSTED THEN, to FEAST UPON THEIR SOULS.

Why don't Atheists vilify THE DEVILS who made The Great Flood NECESSARY?

Clearly, because ATHEISM IS RUN BY LUCIFERAN SATANISTS at the very top.



[color=silver].[/color] THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER.

(1) TOTAL RECALL.
(2) EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
(3) TELEKINESIS.
(4) TELEPORTATION.
(5) TRANSLATION.
(6-10) EVERLASTING LIFE.

The best possible evidence of THE GREAT FLOOD, and other Bible Events, is that YAHWEH GOD has given us The Power to WITNESS EVERYTHING HE SHOWED HIS PROPHETS, and more.

This Evidence is reserved for GOOD PEOPLE. Only the EVIL people say that It isn't good enough.

Why should God want EVILDOERS like YOURSELF to be Saved?

What good can possibly come from people who publicly Blaspheme God, based on False Information, they could not even be bothered to check?

You should know that your Atheistic Seniors are liars, and would never admit that they had seen evidence of the Existence of God, so that you would continue to believe that there was none.

For instance, they never told you that some Chinese characters, which are older than The Book of Genesis (c. 1300BC) clearly illustrate knowledge of some of the events of The Book of Genesis.

[See: THE DISCOVERY OF GENESIS: How The Truths of Genesis were Found Hidden in the Chinese Language, by C.H. Kang and Ethel R. Nelson.]

This is because they hate you, and want your Soul to be lost, as theirs' are.

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TenQ:
Its obvious your aim is to muddle up issues.
We were talking about the gravitational singularity which expanded to produce our universe which includes all the stars, galaxys, planets and the constituents and you are talking about gravitational singularities in black holes?

SHM!
Please, Stop wasting my time.

Now you struggling to even know what a gravitational singularity is.

If you cannot grasp the concept of a blackhole then how can we make you understand the Big Bang singularity?

You have to know how a blackhole works because they are similar in properties. You are just portraying sciolism and you know nothing

TenQ:
Its obvious your aim is to muddle up issues.
We were talking about the gravitational singularity which expanded to produce our universe which includes all the stars, galaxys, planets and the constituents and you are talking about gravitational singularities in black holes?

SHM!
Please, Stop wasting my time.

But you said gravitational singularities do not exist now. Can you just ask if you don’t know?

TenQ:
So Gravitational Constant G is the same as Gravitational Field g!?

I hear you!

What are you saying ?

You keep creating things that are not related to what we are saying and keep making more and more mistakes.

TenQ:
So, the law of conservation of energy doesn't hold with spontaneous nuclear fission!?

I hear you!

84Po210 → 82Pb206 + 2He4

That’s the equation for the decaying of polonium 210, how does that not obey law of conservation of energy?

You don’t know anything, you are still the person mopping everything up.

TenQ:
Even though you read clearly where is said YET obeying the law of conservation of Energy, but no, a blind man cannot see!

He doesn’t even understand basic radioactive reactions? What a pity

TenQ:
Gravitational constant is different from Gravitational field strength

F=G(M1M2/r*r)

The attractive force (F) between two point-like bodies is directly proportional to the product of their masses (M1 and M2) and inversely proportional to the square of the distance, r, between their centers of mass.:


The constant of proportionality, G, is the gravitational constant. it is different from the the gravitational field

The magnitude of the resultant gravitational field strength denoted by term g, at a distance r to a point is
g=GM/r*r

Whats this guy saying for god sake?

You people don’t learn until they start making jest of you

TenQ:
I wander where I said that an element is a gravitational singularity.

I just simply used an example to clear your ignorance.

You said:
Gravitational singularity is a Constant.
I showed you that:
-Gravitational singularity doesn't exist again
-Gravitational singularity expanded to form the universe
So, how could it be a CONSTANT
You argued that:
It is constant because of its conservation of Energy


NOW, I SHOWED YOU the ILLOGICALITY of your argument by giving you the example of Polonium218 which spontaneously disintegrates YET obeying the law of conservation of Energy




How can Polonium 218 remain a constant when it NO MORE exist?

You obviously do not know what a gravitational singularity is if you think it doesn’t exist again.

So whats a blackhole? A gravitational plurality?

TenQ:
I wander where I said that an element is a gravitational singularity.

I just simply used an example to clear your ignorance.

You said:
Gravitational singularity is a Constant.
I showed you that:
-Gravitational singularity doesn't exist again
-Gravitational singularity expanded to form the universe
So, how could it be a CONSTANT
You argued that:
It is constant because of its conservation of Energy


NOW, I SHOWED YOU the ILLOGICALITY of your argument by giving you the example of Polonium218 which spontaneously disintegrates YET obeying the law of conservation of Energy




How can Polonium 218 remain a constant when it NO MORE exist?

lol, a decaying polonium only releases it’s mass inform of energy.
Energy is still conserved.

Common dude, you don’t understand radioactivity?
A radioactive element like polonium release energy inform of radiation, energy will never be created nor destroyed at the end of the reaction but will be converted from one from or another.

TenQ:
You just need to describe a gravitational singularity, then show us where it is!?


It's just like holding an unstable Isotope (eg Polonium218) which undergoes a Spontaneous fission into Lead 214 and an alpha particle and INSISTING the the polonium remains constant because the law of conservation of energy holds for the individual alpha particle, energy and lead resultant constituents.

In this case just like gravitational singularity, is Polonium218 CONSTANT?

A primary school student can answer this correctly!

I didn’t even read where you implied that polonium decays hence doesn’t obey law of conservation of energy.

That’s not how it works dude. A decaying polonium will release radiation that equals the mass it has lost while decaying to still obey law of conservation of energy. Energy was lost from the polonium in form radiation, the total energy in that equation is still constant.

You need a total overhauling in basic science. Seriously, just that you think you know these things hence can’t allow people teach you.

TenQ:
FYI, gravity is a FIELD!
Inverse square law show us that it reduces with distance from its origin at a rate (1/r*r): this is the inverse square law.

In other words, the farther away you are from a mass/source of gravity eg the earth, the lower is the gravitational field intensity you wioll experience.

Read this, it will help you understand. You are mopping everything up because you don’t understand the basics

Open the link https://futurism.com/the-gravitational-constant-is-it-really-constant

TenQ:
FYI, gravity is a FIELD!
Inverse square law show us that it reduces with distance from its origin at a rate (1/r*r): this is the inverse square law.

In other words, the farther away you are from a mass/source of gravity eg the earth, the lower is the gravitational field intensity you wioll experience.

True, But doesn’t mean the total gravity of the system is not constant.
It’s not about you now, it’s about the entire system.

You are really struggling to grasp It. Do you have a science background?

TenQ:
You just need to describe a gravitational singularity, then show us where it is!?


It's just like holding an unstable Isotope (eg Polonium218) which undergoes a Spontaneous fission into Lead 214 and an alpha particle and INSISTING the the polonium remains constant because the law of conservation of energy holds for the individual alpha particle, energy and lead resultant constituents.

In this case just like gravitational singularity, is Polonium218 CONSTANT?

A primary school student can answer this correctly!

wtf, polonium218 is not a gravitational example
Calm down and let’s teach you this thing. You are mopping everything up.


An example of gravitational singularity is a “blackhole” and not polonium.

Polonium is just a radioactive element dude

TenQ:
Here was what you said:

How can gravitational force field be constant everywhere around a singularity?

Its constant, very constant.
Gravity is not only constant in singularities, but across the universe. The total amount of gravity in the universe never changes at any point in time.

TenQ:
You still dont get the point:
The expansion of the gravitational singularity occured about 13.8 billion years ago and it is STILL expanding till today.
Where is the gravitational Singularity TODAY?
Is it still infinitely dense and small?

It has CHANGED because it is NOT a CONSTANT!

Th law of conservation of Energy is NOT the same thing as gravitational singularity: is it?

ok, let me bring so low for you to understand.

Gravitational singularity still exist today in blackholes but we are going to make this discussion based on the singularity before the Big Bang.

If the gravity in that singularity is for example 100newton before expansion, if it expanded by 10folds, it means that the force of 100N will be dispersed into the 10folds, like into 10places I.e. 10x10.
If you still add all the gravitational force in this 10 folds, it will still add up to the initial 100N in the preexisting singularity irrespective of the expansion. That’s what we mean by gravity is constant.


Hope you get now?

TenQ:
You still dont get the point:
The expansion of the gravitational singularity occured about 13.8 billion years ago and it is STILL expanding till today.
Where is the gravitational Singularity TODAY?
Is it still infinitely dense and small?

It has CHANGED because it is NOT a CONSTANT!

Th law of conservation of Energy is NOT the same thing as gravitational singularity: is it?

urggh, do you understand what a gravitational singularity is? It hasn’t change, all the gravitational force combined in the universe hasn’t changed, it was only dispersed overtime across board but the figure remains constant.

TenQ:
Something is static, yet expanding!?
Are you making sense to yourself?
Please dont forget that the gravitational singularity is a point of infinitely dense and infinitely small (in size) gravitational force and energy: therefore it cannot be treated as smoke in a container!

Sorry, it looks like you are complicating things: its like you are saying apart from the gravitational singularity, there exist dark matter" which caused the universe to expand.

Is this really what you are saying? (I have never read about any other force acting on the singularity!)

Secondly, gravity cannot be constant around the singularity as it obeys the inverse square law: what do you think?

How does inverse square law affects the gravitational force in a singularity?

Inverse square law is still obeyed, because gravity will reduce at every point as expansion occurs but the total gravitational force combined even as the universe expands is still constant. “Combined” is the key word, it remains constant at all times

You don’t even understand inverse square law, I wish you were in front of me so I can give you physical illustrations.

TenQ:
Something is static, yet expanding!?
Are you making sense to yourself?
Please dont forget that the gravitational singularity is a point of infinitely dense and infinitely small (in size) gravitational force and energy: therefore it cannot be treated as smoke in a container!

Sorry, it looks like you are complicating things: its like you are saying apart from the gravitational singularity, there exist dark matter" which caused the universe to expand.

Is this really what you are saying? (I have never read about any other force acting on the singularity!)

Secondly, gravity cannot be constant around the singularity as it obeys the inverse square law: what do you think?

Let me give you another example of it will help you grasp it.

Law of conservation of energy says that the energy in a close system is always constant.
It doesn’t mean that the will not move.

What it means is that:
Total energy (mechanical + heat)= Constant, doesn’t mean that particles won’t move.
It means that even as they move, the energy amount won’t change.

Even as matter move, the total gravity of the system won’t change by figure. It remains constant

TenQ:
Something is static, yet expanding!?
Are you making sense to yourself?
Please dont forget that the gravitational singularity is a point of infinitely dense and infinitely small (in size) gravitational force and energy: therefore it cannot be treated as smoke in a container!

Sorry, it looks like you are complicating things: its like you are saying apart from the gravitational singularity, there exist dark matter" which caused the universe to expand.

Is this really what you are saying? (I have never read about any other force acting on the singularity!)

Secondly, gravity cannot be constant around the singularity as it obeys the inverse square law: what do you think?

you don’t know science and you won’t calm down to learn.

What constant means in science is all the amount equals zero.

If we say gravity is constant, it doesn’t mean that it’s not moving, it means that the gravitational force in that system doesn’t change. The figure doesn’t change at any point


A falling object will always fall with acceleration due gravity of 9.8m/s^2, that’s a constant, it doesn’t mean that the object falling will not move.

nuttyprofessor:
Science must recognize its limits and its inability to reach the existence of God. It can neither affirm nor deny his existence. 
The proofs for the existence of God are many and convergent. the universe is the work of a creator ; It is manifested in the various marvels of nature.

You are creating a limit that doesn’t exist just so your god can exist.

There’s no evidence that a creator exist

TenQ:
I said:

And you replied:


Then I said:

Then you relied:


So, this is the question:
Since you insist gravitational singularity is a constant, Is gravitational singularity a varying entity or a static entity?

The gravity of any close system will be static since it's equivalent to its mass.
However it doesn't means that it won't expand. It's just like saying that you have smoke particles in a container, it won't expand because it's mass and gravity is constant.

Doesn't make sense. And remember, there another force called the dark energy that causes the universe to expand, this doesn't in anyway mean that gravity is not constant across board.

peggywebbs:
And you have presumed I'm not an intellect? How?

Just say this thread is for delusional atheists period.

I have seen some brilliant theists make comments here as well, its a pity you don't fall into that category

nuttyprofessor:
I would argue, the probability for the existence of a supernatural GOD . We see a universe marvelously arranged, obeying certain laws, but we understand the laws only dimly.

The universe is not marvelous, wait until a blackhole comes close enough or take a trip to space without a space suit. The universe is harsh

 
 

Our existence poses a mystery that demands an answer.   It’s our most enduring question. For we all seek to know: why we are here?
It is a mystery that lies beyond science.      scientists hypotheses about the first moments of Creation aren’t much more than guesses ..  we need to explore the universe and its history a little more thoroughly before we can make such definitive assumptions and statements about its origins.

The mystery are not beyond science, it's a comment formulated by religious people to insert God into the equation. Because science doesn't know it today doesn't mean we won't find tommorow. Filling the gaps with God doesn't answer the question, it creates an unquestionable answers.
 
 [ quote]  “fundamental question of metaphysics.” -
( Why is there something rather than nothing?”
Why Anything? Why This?[/quote]There's no evdiecne for metaphysics, it's a religious contraption.

why does the universe exist?  Why does it seem to follow mathematical laws, and are those laws inevitable?   Was the universe made for life  . Some say without an answer to this questions, we can’t know anything:
     The idea that something came out of nothing is contrary to reason.  whether existence emerging from nothingness is even logically possible   --   the rules of arithmetic must also hold to ensure that “0 = 0” rather than “0 = 1.

Logic is less reliable than evidence, that's why we fixed alot of mistakes made by even Aristotle with evidence from science
   

To  think or assume that anything will exist  without any preceding cause is strange because everything we are familiar with can trace its existence to some earlier cause:
For example;  manufactured things are made by people , life comes from other life and etc . # It seems to defy reason for a thing to exist without a cause.

Then who caused the creator? You want your logic to end there?

Science has revealed aspects of nature that seem supernatural .
How can physical atoms and molecules, for example, create something that exists in a separate domain that has no physical existence: human consciousness?
 Also scientists still ponder that
  the universe is its own cause, emerging as a random quantum fluctuation allowed by laws of physics.

science has never reveled anything in the supernatural, it doesn't deal with the supernatural. Because scientist are still pondering is not evidence that it was created.

Could it be that  we are trying to use science to answer a non-scientific question ~
What we are looking for is not a cause, but rather  a reason — an explanation.

Then wait until we find the reason before inserting a god
 

Well many sciences { evolutionary biology, mathematics, physics , astronomy,etc} all point towards  the "first cause" as a divine act of creation . Many questions about our universe and our existence defy any natural or rational  explanation. And  YES  science accepts  the possibility that  it takes the existence of some kind of a "GOD" to make the mathematical underpinnings of the universe comprehensible.
God is a necessary being which has its reason for existence in itself.

first cause is not a scientific topic but a philosophical argument which hasnt been backed by evidence. Show me any science textbook that talks about first cause?

Indeed. And we're so lucky that polar bears were able to walk from the Arctic circle and that kangaroos were able to bounce across the sea from Australia, pandas could walk from China, and the American bison swam from America. They incredibly all ended up in the Middle East to get on the ark. And after a month and a bit of rain plus a bit of time for water levels to drop they all went back home again and started having sex and breeding like rabbits in order to repopulate the planet.

I can't see why anyone would find this remotely improbable; can you?


And then God destroyed all the evidence and created evidence that it DIDN’T happen. Not a God I am willing to worship.

The Genesis Flood story, in its full context, is that an all-seeing God failed to notice important details and the all-knowing God failed to realise how bad this plan was. This resulted in a pointless genocide; the humanity that emerges post-Flood in this story is exactly the same as the humanity that was destroyed. In other words, an all-powerful God failed to get the result He wanted.

You could choose to believe the literal truth of many parts of the Bible but why people choose to cling to the literal truth of a murderously incompetent God always amazes me.

In any event, there is no good evidence for a recent, worldwide, “great” flood that covered the tops of mountains and killed every human and animal on the planet apart from the crew and cargo of one amateur floating zoo. And plenty of evidence which confounds it.

TenQ:
It is also called Space-Time Singularity

it means you are talking about the singularity before the big bang. So what's the question again?

vinceyinnovation:
Also happy I did not make a fellow human being with brain as I have as my god and religion to defend passionately, Because he is white

An average Christian thinks snakes can talk to a woman.

I wonder why psychiatrists are not fully booked

vinceyinnovation:
Also happy I did not make a fellow human being with brain as I have as my god and religion to defend passionately.

You would have been taken seriously if you don't believe that a snake talked to woman made from calcium and phosphates in ribs

vinceyinnovation:
I will gladly pay it to you my science religion pastor.

By the way, you have an argument zeal of a year one philosophy student...(I come in peace)

Well, at least I don't have an imaginary friend who doesn't exist

vinceyinnovation:
Anyway, at this point in time my target has achieve...

From the first page I thought you were very logical..

But I have discovered that just like other black man atheist...you are a big time quoter/preacher.

SCIENCE IS A RELIGION AND YOU ARE THEIR PREACHER

TELL ME WHEN THIS SERVICE WILL BE OVER...

BY THE WAY, I ENJOYED YOUR CHURCH SERMON.

Go ask about me on this sections, if I have your time.

You go think say na trailer jam you this night. Walahi

vinceyinnovation:
Anyway, at this point in time my target has achieve...

From the first page I thought you were very logical..

But I have discovered that just like other black man atheist...you are a big time quoter/preacher.

SCIENCE IS A RELIGION AND YOU ARE THEIR PREACHER

TELL ME WHEN THIS SERVICE WILL BE OVER...

BY THE WAY, I ENJOYED YOUR CHURCH SERMON.

Now you can go pay tithes to your pastors

Happy now, let brilliant people comment

Clementoons:
THE ALMIGHTY GOD. THE ONE AND TRUE ONE. any other gods is a counterfeit. Accept him and his SON JESUS

Lol, You should accept the flying spaghetti monster because he's the only true God. The Christian God is a counterfeit

TenQ:
Sorry (autocorrect problem)

Since you are vastly more knowledgeable in physics than me, please educate me!

Is gravitational singleton singularity a varying entity or a static entity?

I don't know what you mean by gravitational singularity but I presume you are talking about the singularity that existed before the universe started expanding?