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Solsix:
That not how it's been calculated. Check buildings per square meter. U will see that Onitsha is built up. Where can u see the type of store buildings except in onitsha

if you say building by square meter then I will agree but total number of building, Onitsha cannot be top 10.

basilo101:
I repeat, city is different from urban metropolitan area. Anambra rural area are so clustered and constant erection of edifice by rich individuals have merged the villages into an urban cornubation as attested by Google. The whole cluster is regarded as Onitsha metro

see look the map.
From head bridge to Ogidi (this part of Ogidi is not even onitsha per se) is still a shorter than than osisioma to Asa umunka in Aba. That distance withing Aba is still twice from headbridge onitsha to Ogidi.

Onitsha is small. It cannot be the 2md most built up by number of houses.

basilo101:
Onitsha has Left those places you are mentioning long ago. Onitsha has capured Awka. Ekulobia and Orlu

the onitsha on your map, you are adding okija, ihiala , Nnewi and even orlu to it 😂😂

You must think I am a foolll 🤣

basilo101:
Abuja is not big.

lol, Onitsha is not even as big as Aba in Abia state even if you add Nkpor, Obosi and Ogidi.

I don't know how you people see this una onitsha 😂

Solsix:
Which Ibadan?? U have not been to Onitsha

I have lived in Onitsha for 6 months. I lived at Niger Avenue, Fegge.

I have at least spent on week Abuja, Aba, owerri, Ibandan, Ilorin, Uyo, Calabar and Benin.

I served in port Harcourt and lived in Enugu for 4 years.

Enugu, Owerri, Benin, Ibadan, Abuja, Port harcourt and even Aba are more built up than onitsha. Built up I mean the amount of buildings. Onitsha is small

basilo101:
You are confusing yourself bro

I will never believe that Onitsha is 2nd most built up city until you give me an exact figure of all the buildings in Onitsha and other cities in Nigeria.

I am damn sure that onitsha cannot make top 10. I'm also sure that onitsha does not have more buildings than event Owerri and Enugu. I doubt if Onitsha will event have more buildings than Aba not to talk of port harcourt, Abuja and Kano.

Are you kidding me 😂

proeast:
Forget about being Igbo, we are talking facts here. Demographia and other international organizations that gave that data don't have any reason to be biased. You don't know more than them!

Lagos is most built up because there are buildings back-to-back for hundreds of miles. Same is applicable to Onitsha. They don't consider Ibadan as built-up because the buildings are more or less shanties, which are categorized as slums by those international bodies.

Onitsha is not more built than Abuja. You and I know this.
Or even port harcourt.

You should be laughing at those data 😂

basilo101:
Go and research the difference between city and urban metropolitan area. That's where your confusion is coming from. In terms of city, Aba is the largest city in the East followed by Enugu. But urban metroplis is a different thing and Onitsha is the largest in Nigeria by landmass and second largest by population

Onitsha is small.
Even if you combine Onitsha, Obosi, nkpor, Ogidi, places like port harcourt, Abuja, Kano, Kaduna and Ibadan are sill larger and more built than it.

tundein18:
"Allow" like Lagos is the ones stopping it. The new seaport was built by state government not federal. If those states want to build themselves a seaport then they should do it. Don't blame lagos for building there own.

Did you read my comment carefully?

basilo101:
There is a difference between a city and urban metro. Stop confusing yourself

Onitsha, Nkpo, Ogidi and Obosi are not as built up as port harcourt metro. Even if you add Oba and Nnewi to it, Port metro comprising onne, Elele, oyigbo and obio akpo is still more built up than all of them.

Obio akpo alone is larger than Onitsha main city

basilo101:
Building will count the year they were built

yeah, the year they were built.

proeast:
ChatGPT shouldn't be relied upon on such issue. Demographia and other research bodies are more reliable.

ChatGPT only picks random information online to form its opinion.

we can search Google satellite. Onitsha doesn't have more buildings than kano, Port harcourt and Abuja. Even Ibadan.

I am Igbo but we have to tell ourselves the truth

basilo101:
You are not considering the dense suburbs surrounding Onitsha which appears green on Google. Unlike places like Kano surrounded by empty desert

Built up means: Number of residential buildings.

Onitsha will not make top 10 on that list

tundein18:
Its mostly the economic capital because the people there built it to be. Stop diminishing the people of lagos and giving glory to the federal government. Kano is bigger than Lagos so why is it not as successful. If anything the government prioritized lagos because of the success of the people there.

it's the economic capital because its given a special treatment to make sure that it's seaport is the only optimally functioning seaport in Nigeria.

It is from this revenue generate by the inflow businesses in Lagos that gives Lagos state money revenue to build Lekki port.
Allow other seaports work well in other parts of the country and Lagos will grow slowly economically because many businesses will move

basilo101:
What you think is irrelevant. A competent authority has done the ranking. Note, the ranking was based urban metropolitan area no cities. Onitsha is more than twice of PH

they are not competent authorities. Who made them reliable, you?
They a body with no relavance. Onitsha cannot be the 2nd most built to city in Nigeria.
Anybody that traveled accross Nigeria know this. Even Chatgpt does not agree with you

horsepower102:
I will take the words of the experts who took their time to study this over your opinion.

Both Demographia and McKenzie have done independent research and come to the same conclusions about Onitsha.

Demographia will release their annual report this month.

onitsha is a small place by landmass, it cannot possibly be the 2nd most built up city in Nigeria. I don't think it's even in top 10.

Even chatGPT don't think so

mrvitalis:
The problem with GDP is buildings don't count in calculating GDP... They only count the year they are built thats all

Building cannot count as GDP because GDP is grass domestic product frm a region.

It's a total calculation of the goods and services produced in a state or country minus importation value into state. Building cannot possibly be included in it

tundein18:
Lagos is not the capital. Its a full SW state and a genuine yoruba land. your propaganda wont change that. Not to mention the total of other SW states is $50 billion GDP while the whole SE is $49 billion. SW is ahead

Lagos is Yoruba land. It's not debatable.

But you must agree that Lagos is the economic capital of Nigeria. It's a priority for the federal government to make it so.

totit:
Well, all good. But until these are translated into the GDP of these states it remains a forecast. Do you now see the need for a new GDP table after all?

So why do you think Imo state froglipped to that position? There are production of gas going on now in imo state and it's growing. What factories does Imo state have to rival Akwa ibom if not for gas production?

The shell plant is meant to supply gas major power plants in Aba (there are about 3 power plants in Aba waiting to patronize them, including th largest in Nigeria, Alaoji power plant) and SS. This plant also pipelines to Ota in Ogun state to supply industries in Ogun. It means that Ogun will still depend on Imo as we move to gas to run its industries. All these gas sales will add to Imo state GDP. It's inevitable

horsepower102:
This is McKenzie recent projection on Onitsha. I opened a thread about it. Onitsha by 2040 will be at near parity with Lagos in population and size of build up areas.

I think you are cherrypicking a stat that favors you.
There are tonnes of data online that proves otherwise and even a simple Google satellite analysis will show that Onitsha is not as built up as port harcourt and Kano

SpecialAdviser:
You may be right anyway. I know there aren't many companies in Enugu. But Enugu makes lots of income in estates and tourist relaxations (hotels etc)

How much do you think the income frkm Tourism and Relexation can add to GDP compared to Say a factory like innoson motors in Nnewi or a gas plant in Ohaji, Imo state?

Putinofrussia:
It has not always been like this.

yes, what do you think changed.

Is it that something new has started driving the economy of Imo and Anambra?

totit:
The bolded can only be ascertained with the most recent stats. A deep observation of the data being thrown around of dated back and repetitive of the same 2013-2017.

Yes, but I really do not see other parts of southwest catching up. You know why? Natural Gas.

Natural gas is an emerging in Nigeria and its growing faster than crude oil economy. The gas deposits in Imo and anambra state is causing massive investments to go there. 1 gas plant that will be newly completed by Shell in Imo state is worth about $2billion. Seplat jusr completed one is Imo state earlier this year, it's work $700million.

Imagine dropping investment worth $2.7billion in a state within a year, that's about N3trillion. And more are coming.
When these plants start operations, it's going to skyrocket the GDP and economy of that axis.
However FMCG factories do you want to set up in Ogun state that can Rival that? The only thing that will rival it or even do better is Dangote refinery in Lagos and as the world moves away from oil to Liquefied gas, Dangote refinery production is reach a limit and start dropping.

mrvitalis:
Bros the development in East in the last 10 years is crazy owerri has more than doubled, Onitsha area is only second to Lagos in terms of builf up area

I dont think onitsha is second to Lagos in that.

I think Port harcourt, Ibadan, Kano, Kaduna are more built up than onitsha. Trust me

mrvitalis:
Delta, IMO, Anambra Abia and rivers are the gas base in Nigeria this four state holds 90% of Nigerian inland gas reserve

Bayelsa also, it has huge gas deposit

kettykings:
You are right about the oil and gas growth but see some new insight from Google map and see how a sprawling swathes of city spread is emerging gradually

Well I don't know how that relates to this topic

Putinofrussia:
It still proves that SW economy is way,way above that of the SE now.
Sometimes,gdp changes because of the economical activities in that area and sometimes due to policies of the leadership.
SW states have consistently been at the top.

I agree with you, southwest has a larger economy.
But this figures show that economic growth has not really been happening in other parts of southwest outside of lagos compared to southeast.
Seems like lfos and it axis is someone attracting the investments that should go to other states.

We can disagree to agree

mrvitalis:
Buildings is enough tax... As long as you rent out your building you should pay 15% of that revenue to government... If it's personal use 7.5% of rental value

If u are found lying your house is personal when it's rented... Fine would be 50% of the market value of the house as determined by government


IMO owerri, okigwe and orlu have at least 300,000 rented houses ... If the average is 1,500,000 per year..... That's 67billion generated

U know how many streets 67 billion would fix in owerri orlu n okigwe?
Multiple the effect in 10 years

Government would have incentive to develop new neighborhood so people would build more and pay more tax... That's what drives development

you don't tax in a business environment that is not lucrative for investors yet.
Calm down on this your tax thing and let investors come first

Akwamkpuruamu:
The only economy my state Imo has is hotels. The new emerging ones are the ANOH Gas plant project. I'm Surprised we are among top 5

ANOH is why you are there.
It's a huge economy that is emerging

SpecialAdviser:
If this data is correct then immidiate Enugu state past governor has got a lot of queries to answer. But on a more serious not, I don't believe that Enugu position.

Problem with Nigeria statistical data is that they are conjured in beer parlours

Well, what's really in Enugu that will drive the GDP of Enugu?
Enugu is not really as industrialized as Abia, Imo and Anambra.

GDP is a factor of what you produce, what has Enugu state been producing in the past 9 years?

It's not like Enugu does agriculture again like before.

kettykings:
See a new corridor is forming in the eastern delta flank, Delta -Anambra- Imo . I am hoping Abia and Edo will somehow join this new economic corridor.

Truth is that there seems to a continuous flow of services , money , transactions.


So even with the sit at home 2 eastern blocks met the first 10 states.

I doff my heart for igbos

It's not really an Igbo thing. It's the investments that is being made by oil and gas companies that is driving the GDP.
Gas is the future, just like we left coal for oil, we will soon leave oil for gas.
The Imo and anambra axis has a lot of gas deposit. Expect the econ3 of especially Imo state to skyrocket soon. I am only scared if the government of Imo state will be ready to maximize this coming opportunity

The newest data shows that Lagos, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Imo state and Delta states are the biggest economies in Nigeria by GDP.

Followed by Anambra, Ondo and ogun state.

The reason why Imo and anambra state are having drastic growth in GDP compared to other states is because of the growing natural Gas exploitation that is going on in these states. Especially, Imo state.

In another 20 Years, we expect that Imo state will become 2nd position with the huge investment that is being made in natural gas in the state.

https://yourbudgit.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/2022-State-of-states_Official.pdf