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Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by Workch(op): 7:49am On Jul 05, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Don't mind him He just follow mummy to church and did not understand anything Where he had doubts, he did nothing
From his posts, he wrongly attributed the start of Christianity to the Europeans show me where I attributed the start of Christianity to Europe in the OP and win 1milliom naira. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by Workch(op): 7:40am On Jul 05, 2023 |
paxonel: neither did the theory said man was a monkey how long did it take God to made man? No! check your bible again, man was the last creation God made. He had created every other creation before saying let's create man in our own image and likeness the problem is, Christians fail to reason along. A lot of scriptures in the bible are presented figuratively, examples are parables and some prophecies that needs literal interpretations. So it is very possible that Genesis chapter 1 is just one of those scriptures. But the literal meaning of these kind of scriptures is what is most important to acquire.
For instance,
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
this scripture might just be written this way for a lay man to understand. But in reality, the explanation might go beyond this simple explanation as one may ask, how long does it take for God to form man? Remember, another scripture says a thousand years is like one day to God?..
So, how long did God really take to form man? Technically, we evolved from monkeys. Ape family and the new world monkeys evolved from old world monkeys called catarrhines? Albeit, I get your point, we didn't evolve directly from monkeys but if you go farther back, we actually did evolve from monkeys and I don't see how that should be a problem for Nigerian christians. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by Workch(op): 7:37am On Jul 05, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by Workch(op): 1:58am On Jul 05, 2023 |
Techobeys: I have this question for you:
If evolution is true, you you’ll also imagine abiogenesis to be true. yes, abiogenesis has to be the cause of life logically, because life cannot just keep popping from another life ad-infinitum, however, we still do not understand the mechanism hence still don't have evidence for it If that’s the case, how did plant survive millions of years without humans and animals, especially bc they need our CO2? I don't know what this got to do with abiogenesis but Carbon dioxide (CO2) has been present in the atmosphere since the Earth condensed from a ball of hot gases following its formation from the explosion of a huge star about five billion years ago. The availability of carbondioxide is the natural selection that caused the first photosynthetic oraganims (archeans) and plants to emanate. These photosynthetic oraganims then release oxygen into the atmosphere that later caused animals to evolve. Conversely, if you think animals came first, how did they survive also seeing the need plant Oxygen?. plants came first bec2 the chemical reactions from the formation of earth and volcanic activities already made carbondioxide available for plants to thrive. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by Workch(op): 4:41pm On Jul 04, 2023 |
LordReed: Add to that a lack of understanding of what the theory entails. Most Christians who don't understand the theory rather get their information from apologists who often misrepresent the theory. Thankfully when I was still a Christian I decided to understand the theory for myself even though I still believed that the god created all life as we know them today. It's mostly misinterpreted in Africa because of our shambolic educational system |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 6:43am On Jul 04, 2023 |
gohf: there is, elegchos 😁 okay |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 10:14pm On Jul 03, 2023 |
gohf: but there's evidence in God 👅 There is no evidence for God |
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Thugnificent: Good evening sir. Can you pls lend me 5k sir? It's really urgent. I promise to repay by month end with interest. lol |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 6:30pm On Jul 03, 2023 |
gohf: even if there's evidence would you still believe
You have Google, there are online books, u can do it research but u lazily sit on your ass and ask someone else to find Jesus for you?
Abeg make it make sense? Lemme guess if Jesus appeared before you the next thing you ask for it make me fly or give me a million dollars There's no evidence on Google |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 6:30pm On Jul 03, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: What are these teachings of christ? What does being christ-like entail? being kind and humane |
Christianity Etc › How Different Regional Christians Accept The Theory Of Evolution. by Workch(op): 6:29pm On Jul 03, 2023*. Modified: 7:50am On Jul 05, 2023 |
I was a Christian for 27 years, after my undergraduate course in Nigeria, I happened to travel to Poland for my masters degree, I became irreligious while in Poland. I travelled to many parts of Europe: Germany, Netherlands, Spain etc with my student schengen Visa, in the course of travelling, I interacted with many European and debated religion with them. I have not been to the untied states but I have had many conversations with Christians from the United States of America about how they perceive the theory of evolution and these are my observations:
1. European Christians are less conservative than Christian from America and Africa. Albeit, education in America seem to have made those there to be more exposed than their African counterparts but still they are still very conservative.
2. Christians in Europe don't take literal interpretations from the Bible, they see most of the passages to be allegories which are meant to pass spiritual and moral meanings . They don't take the Adam and eve story to be literal hence they do not have issues reconciling their beliefs with the theory of evolution. Christians in America and Africa are mostly literalists, their interpretation of the Bible is literal, this is why they find it difficult to reconcile the Bible with theory of evolution. Because to them, it means that their literal understanding of Genesis will be wrong.
3. American and African Christians are still overzealous about their religion. Probably because the religion is quite newer in these continent. Christianity has a long history in Europe, so Europeans really don't see a big deal about it anymore. It's also why they accept the Bible as allegorical interpretations instead of thr literal meaning. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Earth Is Flat ....not Spherical. by Workch: 12:53pm On Jun 30, 2023 |
EMILO2STAY: dont fool yourself. an ant walking around a spherical object will have to face up ,down and side ways at a point. this means different directions ,positions and orientations. meaning the ant will face upwards downwards, and sides ways at a point heck even upside down. this should be our reality on the earth if it was round. take a ball and gum sticks around it on all sides and see if some sticks will not be oriented differently. the saying that everywhere is up on a sphere is nonsense. take the earth for example. have you ever heard of anything like a steep slope?' you walk up and down the slope not up and up. the fact that we see the moon from opposing sides does not mean that we see them from a curved angel. we can still see the moon same way on a flat surface as long as we stand in different direction. example the chandelier in a big house can be seen from opposing angles even though the percivers are standing on a flat surface. so your example is wrong.
ever heard of perspective? perspective is the reason objects gets smaller as they move away from you and later disappear from sight. this is not because they are really getting smaller but because of the nature of your eye sight that cannot percive object in far away distance.
you lack defence here mr man. seems you dont know your own beliefs. newton said it is a force of attraction ,if it is a force attraction then why would it change? facts dont chang sp you dont know what your talking about.
it is a historical fact.  😂😂😂 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 12:14pm On Jun 30, 2023 |
wegevv: This statement is clearly made in bad faith so forgive me if I chose to ignore it ❤️ Lol |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 12:14pm On Jun 30, 2023 |
MightySparrow: That would be fine. For a nonexistent Robin Hood You can't prove he doesn't exist, just like Jesus |
Christianity Etc › Re: Tell Us A Reason You Don't Believe In God by Workch: 12:14pm On Jun 30, 2023 |
HellVictorinho6: more like other tinz mata more to u. survival has been very hard 4 me. Get a skill |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Earth Is Flat ....not Spherical. by Workch: 12:13pm On Jun 30, 2023 |
EMILO2STAY: you are the dumbo. why should an ant on a basket ball not feel curvature? if the ant moves around the ball at a point the ant would be upside down and sides ways yet you think it would not feel curvature , what dumb example!!' you must have failed mathematics in waec or probably passed via special centre, little wonder the educational section of the country is in shambles and no one can produce anything meaning with your likes as majority. But I will try to educate you. In SS 1, there's a topic call geometry. If yoi paid attention in class, you would have known that in the geometry of a sphere, thw whole surface is the up while the core is the down. You cannot feel any down in a geoomerty that has gravity as long as you are on the surface, that's the up. However, you can observe it if you have a working brain.i doubt you have one but I will try. Now, let me give you simple experiment, if you have two friends, one in South Africa and the other in the UK, call them on a full moon, tell them to take a picture of the moon and send to you, you will observe that the moon you will receive from each of them will be the mirror image of each other. This is because south Africa is at the extreme south pole with UK is at the north pole, they will perceive the moon different from opposite sides and that's how spheres work. if the earth is curved 8inch/mile square as given by spherical earth scientist proponents it follows that buildings on the earh should not be standing parallel to each other and bridge collumns should not be parallel too, heck even planes would have to account for curvature by dipping their nose down wards at 5min intervals to account for curvature of the earth. So tell me why you cannot see the picture of Burj Khalifa from top of Eiffel tower in France even with thr stringers microscope. Tell me why you Cannot see cocoa house in Ibadan from union Bank headquarters in Marina. gravity is nonsense found by one man and proven by non. the only proof for gravity is said to be when a ball with bigger mass attracts another with smaller mass. this example has never been seen anywhere in the world . This is not what gravity says, this is the definition of gravity in 19th century and you Brain is still stuck in the 19th century. No wonder you are a flat earther 😂 what you call science is nonsense and the bible is a book that proves itself both in history and true scientific fact. not the nonsense we are taught in school called science. so shut up. So what is the science of a virgin birth? Tell me 🤣 |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Earth Is Flat ....not Spherical. by Workch: 11:58am On Jun 30, 2023 |
EMILO2STAY: you are the dumbo. why should an ant on a basket ball not feel curvature? if the ant moves around the ball at a point the ant would be upside down and sides ways yet you think it would not feel curvature , what dumb example!!'
if the earth is curved 8inch/mile square as given by spherical earth scientist proponents it follows that buildings on the earh should not be standing parallel to each other and bridge collumns should not be parallel too, heck even planes would have to account for curvature by dipping their nose down wards at 5min intervals to account for curvature of the earth.
gravity is nonsense found by one man and proven by non. the only proof for gravity is said to be when a ball with bigger mass attracts another with smaller mass. this example has never been seen anywhere in the world .
what you call science is nonsense and the bible is a book that proves itself both in history and true scientific fact. not the nonsense we are taught in school called science. so shut up. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 8:51am On Jun 30, 2023 |
wegevv: Lol
Scholars of today study antiquity. They study what happened back then. The scholars of today, who study what happened back then, virtually all agree that Jesus existed. Google is your friend
You don’t have to believe them though ❤️ okay, sho what are the evidence they have? The time of Jesus doesn't even fall within the Era of antiquity. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 8:51am On Jun 30, 2023 |
wegevv: I’ve just realised you have assumed “scholars of antiquity” meant the “scholars who existed during antiquity” 😂. I guess I can only apologise for the confusion.
A “scholar of antiquity” refers to someone in the present time who studies antiquity (the ancient times). Similar to a “scholar of anthropology” for example.
I’ve assumed you were arguing in bad faith but maybe you’re just not aware of what I’m referencing. You can find various forums, subreddits, YouTube channels etc where the very best scholars of antiquity discuss their evidence for why they believe Jesus existed and on the other hand why they can’t say King Arthur existed at all ❤️. It’s mostly based on study of literature.
CC: mightysparrow, I caused the confusion so apologies to you too ❤️ Scholars of antiquity don't have evidence for Jesus. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 8:50am On Jun 30, 2023 |
MightySparrow: In what ways are people affected by Robin Hood? Who are his followers. What is his interaction with people today. I can start a Robin Hood religion today |
Christianity Etc › Re: Tell Us A Reason You Don't Believe In God by Workch: 8:49am On Jun 30, 2023 |
HellVictorinho6: they MAY see no flaw till u die with ur atheism. u cant speak 4 them. nah 50-50, u wan coach dem say their mama get wetin u call craze while she call am faith 4 head,omoh she sef go laff u, the religious girl wey i dey call 'friend' just dey make me speechless with her god stuff,i no fit laff,no fit cry, na to change topic be my way out cuz even tho i still dey go church ,life no dey do me reach thank god level again. even if i see 30 billion,i go reason why i suppose need am to survive,as in my brain dey too curious 4 religious tinz, at the end pastor go use money,not bible, run church but those books and articles wey una dey write/quote as ,budaatum,Maynman,etc. all na for drama too,as in,e dey make person dey para ,dey play,dey jonz,dey cap,dey whatever unto infinity. I will allow live their lives. Sincerely, even as a Christian. Life is not very hard |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 9:13pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
MightySparrow: If you read my post well, I said Jesus is both historical and contemporaneous. All other historical figures dried and rotten in their graves. Jesus is alive and still shows Himself to people when necessary. His story is still ongoing. Mohammed died, Confucius, Gatama Bhudda, and all other prophets. Jesus lives on. Not only that He lives, He still shows Himself to people. Who knows? You could be the next. Robin Hood is also historical and contemporaneous |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 9:12pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
MightySparrow: Have you read the books of Tactics 100A.D. Flavius Josephus Herodotus? I don't take those philosophers very seriously. Antiquity thought earth is flat, they didn't even know about bacteria or cells 😂 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 9:12pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
wegevv: What are you saying 😂
You have to combine the meaning of the two words my bro lol
You must be trolling me at this point lol There were no scientific research during the antiquity. Classical Antiquity begins with the period of the writing of Homer's Illiad c. 800 BC to the decline of the Western Roman Empire c. 500 AD. Even Aristotle thought earth is flat because they had no evidence |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 8:20pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
wegevv: Lol I posted it there
Here again for you ❤️
antiquity: the ancient past, especially the period of classical and other human civilizations before the Middle Ages. lol, those are the people you are relying on? People who thought earth is flat |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 6:55pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
wegevv: scholar: a specialist in a particular branch of study, especially the humanities.
antiquity: the ancient past, especially the period of classical and other human civilizations before the Middle Ages. of antiquity. What's antiquity? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 5:43pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
wegevv: Type “did Jesus exist” on google and go from there my friend. It’s not some hidden secret ❤️ who are scholars of antiquity? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 5:41pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
wegevv: Type “did Jesus exist” on google and go from there my friend. It’s not some hidden secret ❤️ scholars of antiquity? Is that evidence? What evidence did the scholars of antiquity provide? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Few Things I Dislike About Christians by Workch(op): 4:44pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
wegevv: There is evidence he existed. Just not the type you're looking for lol. According to you there is no evidence for anyone that existed 2000 years ago actually existed.
There is evidence in literature that Jesus existed. Mostly non-religious people have researched this and have consensus. But I guess it is all just one big conspiracy. Show me the evidence, why is it difficult to show me? |