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Politics › Re: What Can We Yorubas Learn From The Igbos? by Workch: 10:19am On Mar 23, 2023

Pleasant01:
Well except Google earth is capping, the beautiful part of Enugu no big reach old bodija alone

this a map distance discribing transverisng the two farthest points in the two cities, Ibadan is bigger but Enugu is not as small as you think.

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Politics › Re: What Can We Yorubas Learn From The Igbos? by Workch: 10:11am On Mar 23, 2023

PoloG:
Flutterwave alone is half the GDP of anambra .. I don't want to now mention other fintech companies owned by yorubas ...

Igbos should just stick to their 2x2 shops and stop disturbing us....

There is NOTHING igbos have that yorubas will learn from

flutter wave is valued at 1billion dollars, that's lower than the net with of innoson motors

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Politics › Re: What Can We Yorubas Learn From The Igbos? by Workch: 10:03am On Mar 23, 2023

skj1377:
Why cant you stay permanently in your city why come to our undeveloped cities and start insulting or claiming ownership. Like I always say very soon you will need a visa to come to our cities.

we can't because of one Nigeria.

You won't be better than any place in SE without Oyel money

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Politics › Re: What Can We Yorubas Learn From The Igbos? by Workch: 9:39am On Mar 23, 2023

skj1377:
How are the corrupt leaders in Yoruba land dragging everybody back? Did they stop you from developing your Region? You left your region to make a life in our Region and your still comparing. See me see wahala! Am sure if yorubaland is as poor as Somalia even you will not comearound. Like I always say the generation that is holding one Nigeria together is dying out. It is only a matter of time. Not to distant from now it is with your valid visa you will use to come to southwest.

Lol, I have said what I said. The IGR thing is a mirage that does not reflect in the lives of averag Yorubas

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Politics › Re: What Can We Yorubas Learn From The Igbos? by Workch: 9:08am On Mar 23, 2023

BanyXchi:
Osu, a picture of a village in abk doesn't change reality. Check the stats ebonyi is poorer than jigawa and most northern poor states. Again Ogun is more developed than your alaibo. You're very delusi0nal and you should seek help.

this is Abeokuta City centre, you can see the famous Opic tower and the new Mall been constructed.
This place is in GRA, I know Abeokuta very well, aside from this place is the picture, the other parts of Abeokuta are in extreme poverty with dilapidated houses and poverty stricken Yoruba residents.
This is the most developed place in the whole of Abeokuta and then you keep asking yourself what they even do with this humongous IGR.

You better open your eyes to the deception.
I know what I am saying because I do business in southwest

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Politics › Re: What Can We Yorubas Learn From The Igbos? by Workch: 8:51am On Mar 23, 2023

skj1377:
Stop misleading people. I served my NYSC is Eboyin state please don't compare it to just ijebuode or Abeokuta. Stop this propaganda nonsense.

Ijebu ode has wealthy men, no doubt but the wealth no circulate. It's hegemonized.

Go to Ijebu ode today, nothing dey there aside the flyover on the express road and Lagos garage. The whole of ijebu has bad roads aside from Ibadan road and ijirin road. I know what I am saying. Poverty is in the town, while we have some wealthy sparsely scatter but more people are poor. Have you ever tried boarding a bus from ijebu ode to Lagos? You will see extreme poverty within the the called Yorubas.
The fastest growing business in ijebu ode is yahoo yahoo. You know what I am saying.

You people are too loyal to your corrupt leaders, and it's dragging everyone back because you are giving them unwarranted power

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Politics › Re: What Can We Yorubas Learn From The Igbos? by Workch: 8:49am On Mar 23, 2023

skj1377:
I think Yoruba people should tidy up their society and have their independent government. Ours will work well be stable and efficient. Yoruba land will be a very beautiful place to live very sure of that. We are more in to academia, research and development as well as industrialisation. These are the things that give a society money to function properly and cater for it's citizens . What we have is a people exploiting the economy with excessive importation of cheap substandard or secondhand goods. Let me ask you do we have Alaba market in USA? Do we have computer village in Dubai? Yoruba people need to use their intelectualism do develop their society we are not an importation and trading mass of people. Let us simply organise ourselves better as a people, as a state as a civilisation. Visitors can be allowed to work and stay with relivant documentation.

Yorubas cannot build any world class city on their own except if the federal government comes in like they did in Lagos. Give Yorubas power many times, they will still not leave the Lagos clutch.
Aside Lagos, no city in Yoruba land is anything near developed, including Ibadan. A yoruba system is all about oligarchy, where elites squander the wealth of the people, the followed are very loyal to their corrupt elites and little human capacity development will thrive.

Look at osogbo, Ado Ekiti, Akure and Abeokuta, are those cities competitive even within Nigeria? Think about it.

You all think you can build anything because federal government built Lagos. We built our own cities by ourselves without the help of federal government and we did that in less than 60 years.

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Politics › Re: What Can We Yorubas Learn From The Igbos? by Workch: 8:36am On Mar 23, 2023*

BanyXchi:
you're mentally deranged and you should seek help Osu. Ebonyi is on top 3 poorest states in the country, poorer than most northern states. That place should be turned to a massive national cemetery.

I've been to all the states in your shithole region, don't you find it ironic talking about bad roads. Again don't compare your shithole to SW, we're far apart. Just keep your delusions to yourself

one is the capital of the state with big IGR, the other is the capital of ebonyi. You can easily spot from the landscape of the two cities where money circulates more. You can easily know where more people are living in more exteme poverty with low quality of life.

What's now the purpose of the IGR if the citizens cannot feel the impact, get enough money to renovate their houses and live quality lives?

The money is usually stock with the elites while the poor citizens come online to defend them

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Crime › Re: Adefemi Egbeoluwa & Wife, Oluwafunmilayo, Murdered In Their Lagos Home by Workch: 1:44pm On Mar 22, 2023

They accommodated them in Lagos

Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 12:25pm On Mar 22, 2023

Elemosho478:
You are the one not reading my post

You think Tinubu not being in USA would stop US government from filing a criminal charge against him if they have strong evidence to prove it?

and you think they would let him get more than half of his money back from the Civic forfeiture if they have enough evidence to nailed and confiscate the whole 1.4 million dollars? You think they would let him get 1$ out of the total funds of 1.4million seized if he was really guilty ? . You think US government is that generous and benevolent ?

You guys are lost cause

he remains a criminals that Connot be accessed hence civil forfeiture

Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 12:03pm On Mar 22, 2023

Elemosho478:
How can he be a criminal if he was never charged for any crime ?

who told you civic forfeiture is for criminals who don't reside in the US?

Did you read my post and the various example of civic forfeiture cases listed there ? lol

He was a criminal but the US Government only seized 460,000$ out of 1.4 million dollars ?

why would they let him got half of the money if he was truly guilty ?

Because Tinubu have nuke like Russia and China ?

do you have issues reading the picture that I posted?

Politics › Re: Eye Witness Report, What Really Happened At Obingwa Collation Center. by Workch(op): 12:03pm On Mar 22, 2023

Nice2023:
Thank u for this and pls,stop advising them on how to rig elections pls.

Your analysis was great!

And I thank u once again.

they already know this.

Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 11:19am On Mar 22, 2023

Elemosho478:
You are the olodo lol

for criminal forfeiture to happened the defendant must be convicted.

The case could not be settled out of court and some of the funds forfeited if he was charged for the crime in the first place.

Tinubu was never charged for any crime, his account was freezed with a total sum of 1.4 million dollars as a civic Judicial Forfeiture case, but he challenged the forfeiture in court before he later decided to let them have half of the money.

You think US government will let a guilty drug dealer get away with most of his seized money ?

Even if he's civil forteiture, he's still criminal.
Civil forteiture is for criminals who don't reside bythr united States or cannot be reached by thr government as at the time when the legal process was happening hence the property will be the defendant instead of the person. So he remains a criminal that cannot be accessed

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Politics › Election Tribunal: Types Of Forfeiture In The U.S Law : Is Tinubu A Criminal? by Workch(op): 11:17am On Mar 22, 2023

There has been this argument that Tinubu was not indicted in the United States for drug dealings. His supporters that he only some money hence cannot be called a criminal. Well, let's see what the United States law says about asset forfeiture.

1.Criminal Forfeiture
An in personam (against the person) action against a defendant that includes notice of the intent to forfeit property in a criminal indictment. A criminal conviction is required, and forfeiture is part of the defendant’s sentence. Criminal forfeiture is limited to the property interests of the defendant, including any proceeds earned by the defendant’s illegal activity. Criminal forfeiture is generally limited to the property involved in the particular counts on which the defendant is convicted. As part of sentencing, a court may order the forfeiture of a specific piece of property listed in the indictment, of a sum of money as a money judgment, or other property as substitute property. The government must establish by a preponderance of the evidence the requisite connection between the crime of conviction and the asset. After a preliminary order of forfeiture is entered, a separate, ancillary proceeding begins to determine any third-party ownership interests in the property the government seeks to forfeit.

2. Civil Judicial Forfeiture
An in rem (against the property) court proceeding brought against property that was derived from or used to commit an offense, rather than against a person who committed an offense. Unlike criminal forfeiture, there is no criminal conviction required, although the government is still required to prove in court that the property was linked to criminal activity. The proceeding allows the court to gather anyone with an interest in the property in the same case and resolve all the issues with the property at one time. In a civil forfeiture case, the government is the plaintiff, the property is the defendant, and any person who claims an interest in the property is a claimant. Civil forfeiture allows the government to file cases against property that would not be reachable through criminal forfeiture, such as property of criminals located outside the United States, including terrorists, and fugitives. Civil forfeiture also permits recovery of assets held by deceased defendants or where no defendant can be identified.

3. Administrative Forfeiture.

An in rem (against the property) action that permits property to be forfeited to the United States without filing a case in federal court. The administrative forfeiture process occurs before the agency that seized the assets when no one has filed a claim contesting the seizure. There are many procedures in place, including strict time limits and noticing requirements designed to protect the interests and rights of property holders. Any seizure of property subject to administrative forfeiture must be based on probable cause. The primary benefit of administrative forfeiture is to avoid burdening the courts with judicial actions when no one contests the forfeiture of the seized property.

Tinubu's kind of forfeiture is number 2, he remains a criminal but because he resides outside of the United States as at the time of the legal process, he cannot be charged but his property in the United States can be charged hence it can be forfeited. Tinubu to united states was a criminal of united states that was living abroad.

Thank you

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Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 11:00am On Mar 22, 2023

Elemosho478:
Read about civic forfeiture in the United States

Olodo, Tinubu was charged, he forfeited in court and not by the law enforcement agencies. Olodo

You can't be in court if you have not been charged in the first place, hence Tinubu's case is a criminal forfeiture and not a civil forteiture.

Politics › Eye Witness Report, What Really Happened At Obingwa Collation Center. by Workch(op): 10:59am On Mar 22, 2023

I am an indigene of Abia state and I have been worried with what is actually happening in Abia state. Before the gubernatorial elections, one of my friend who resides in Umuahia told me that he was going for INEC adhoc staff job, it didn't even occur to me all these while that I had a friend who could even tell me what happened. Unfortunately for him, this my friend was posted to Obingwa LGA inec collation centre. Not until this morning when I called him and he said that they were held hostage for two days by obingwa thugs and the police with food.
On getting to the centre, they were first welcomed by labour party agents, they were given refreshments and off they started doing the mathematics. During the whole collation, they had several offers in dollars from PDP agents who wanted them to manipulate the results, but due to the number of accredited voters by the BVAS, it became impossible for them to yield to the demands of those PDP agents.
These PDP agents got frustrated and then invited PDP strong men in Obingwa and Abia state to the collation centre after realizing that the collated results means that PDP lost woefully. These PDP members induced thugs and youths of Obingwa to stage a riot to the INEC LGA office. They blocked the entrance with buses, force themselves into the premises. While this was happening, my friends and other INEC staffs had already locked themselves inside a coaster bus in the INEC office premises, the thugs entered and threatened to burn the bus if they don't announce the results for them to hear it.
The INEC staffs argued that governorship results are supposed to be announced at the state collation centre, before then the presiding officer already called the police. The police got there and these thugs were adamant, led by their strong PDP men. Few minutes later, the army got there and still the thugs in their hundreds threaten that the army would have to kill every single one of them to allow ths INEC staffs leave with those results.
The commissioner of police arrive and still could not pacify the PDP members and thugs. At this point, the presiding office was forced to announced the result of the 2 obingwa state assembly constituency results which PDP won.
Few minutes later, the governor arrived with some men, asked to see the presiding officer, locked him in a room and called all the adhoc staffs back into their office to start manipulating the results. According to my friend, they were manipulating it without regard for the number of accredited voters captured by BVAS. While all these were happening, the electoral officer already informed Proffessor Mahmood Yakub hence INEC had to make it public on their social media handle and then suspended collation. After the whole manipulation, Obingwa thugs and PDP members allowed them to leave.

The next day, which was on a Sunday, the police escrorted the INEC staffs to Umuahia. On getting to Umuahia, nobody was present at the INEC office. So the police insisted that they have to sleep at the office because they are required to officially handover the result to the state presiding officer. After a while, they were taken to Zone 9 with the results, they slept in the police station with the INEC results. The governor called that night suggesting that they bring the result to the government and let them go but the INEC staffs insisted that the result cannot be taken to the government house as that will be culpable.

It was on Monday that the result was finally handedover to the state returning officer, who's the vice chancellor of FUTO. She immediately rejected the result after seeing the unbelievable figures. According to the result, only Obingwa gave PDP 108,000 votes, which is way more than 23,000 accredited voters recorded by BVAS machines in the LGA.
The result was taken to Abuja along side the BVAS machines on Monday for review. The machines are back to umuahia this morning and the recollation will restarted by 11am at the INEC state office in umuahia to make sure that the figurea matches with what is recorded in BVAS. The state INEC collation centre will resume by 4pm and then a winner will likely be announced today.

Well, this is how elections are been rigged now. I am sure this happened in many LGAs accross the country but Ikpeazu is too dull that, he only relied on Isiala Ngwa local government and Obingwa which is the traditional rigging camp of PDP in the state. He didn't learn anything from the presidential election.
He was suppose to lay seige at all local government areas in Abia state, manipulating the result across board like every other state governor did.

This is the structure they were talking about.

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Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 8:50am On Mar 22, 2023

puremaker7:
😂😂😂 it shock you? anyway all na cruize, May God bless you too, all these politicians are causing so many divisions

me no fit allow them divide me

Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 7:19am On Mar 22, 2023

puremaker7:
May devil punish you

Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 7:19am On Mar 22, 2023

IVORY2009:
I think the reason for the forfeiture is as a result of him not paying taxes.....

That's not what the actual case said

Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 6:45am On Mar 22, 2023

helinues:
If Tinubu committed the crime, he wouldn't have forfeited the money, he will be sentenced instead, remember it's Usa not Nigeria

lol 😂

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Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 6:39am On Mar 22, 2023

helinues:
It's time to clear the ignorance of that baseless discussion.

Tinubu wasn't even involved directly in the drug case, as at that time, he was more like an exchanger. Naira to USD, USD to Naira. Anybody can be your clients, how they source their money is none of your business.

The money forfeited was for the drug money deposited into Tinubu's account as an exchanger which was meant for a client.

Did you even read your last statement? I hope you wont be Tinubu's lawyer. You would have ended up implicating him further

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Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 6:35am On Mar 22, 2023

funshint:
So if you're fined for a car pack infringement in the past; it means you're now an ex-convict? 🤡
This case will be Tinubu's easiest case; you see that this eligibility and FCT matter will be first thrown into dustbin.

The law did not say that you have to be an ex-convict. Read it again, you are an adult and should be able to understand simple English language

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Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 6:35am On Mar 22, 2023

heysquare:
Don't mind those fucking stubborn flies that die with corpse. The drug issue supposed to be a pre election matter and such would not be entertained

there's nothing like preelection matter here.
This law does not give a time frame to which it should apply.

Thank you for disagreeing

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Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 6:31am On Mar 22, 2023

puremaker7:
Na mumu you be, how times will a USA authority have to tell you that this guy has no case the answer?

I am not away that United states said that he was not fined $460k for alleged drug dealings

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Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 6:30am On Mar 22, 2023

puremaker7:
You are welcome

may God bless you

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Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 6:30am On Mar 22, 2023

helinues:
It's time to clear the ignorance of that baseless discussion.

Tinubu wasn't even involved directly in the drug case, as at that time, he was more like an exchanger. Naira to USD, USD to Naira. Anybody can be your clients, how they source their money is none of your business.

The money forfeited was for the drug money deposited into Tinubu's account as an exchanger which was meant for a client.

But it's a fine. The law says he should not be fined by any competent court or authority for alleged fraud

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Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 6:29am On Mar 22, 2023

puremaker7:
Na mumu you be

okay, thank you

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Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 6:24am On Mar 22, 2023

puremaker7:
He was fined for drug related cases in USA?

yes

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Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 6:24am On Mar 22, 2023

IVORY2009:
That's true, but the United States, where the supposed issue occurred, have come out to say a bargaining between both parties occurred and a forfeiture was made by one party to the other, it looks complicated though.

Well, there was a "fine" to forfeit $460k. So why did he forfeit it?

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Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 6:23am On Mar 22, 2023

Parachoko:
Nah you post this section yourself, yet, you still believe Asiwaju is not qualified to contest because of a case that happened over 25 years ago 😆

How do you read things?
Did you pass primary school?
Comprehension was taught in primary school and you did not get it

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Politics › Re: Section 137: What Does The Law Say About Tinubu's Drug Case In the U.S? by Workch(op): 6:20am On Mar 22, 2023

Parachoko:
There's nothing to take to court

I'm just stating the facts.

Asiwaju Lawyers will state the facts too and Obi case will be thrown inside the dustbin

ok, let the court decide

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