Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wwwtortoise(m): 1:13pm On Sep 26 |
IbeOkehie: Mr Tortoise
Larry Summers was intimidated into parsing his views, which is exactly what you're trying to do here.
Recorded history and contemporary outcomes show that groups differ, which you and TV1 agree is true.
The differences are based on genetics. Everything about life is rooted in genes. Genes dictate the BOUNDRIES for outcomes. It's uncomfortable. Sorry about that.
The PREFERENCES of Black Africans show that they're aware of these differences. That's why a vast majority of us choose to live in OTHER countries when we have the ability to exercise that choice. Zimbabwe tells the story as far back as when it was one country with Zambia & Malawi....called Nyasaland. Basically, whenever the Blacks separated from or chased out the Whites, the result was disaster. Black Africans simply don't have the genetic assortment that bestows an ability to generate high HDI environments.
Whatever the cause, take heart - credible studies show that IQ, intelligence or whatever name it's given, can change over generations.
Good Luck to Nigerians. I think that’s where the argument still makes a very big leap. Of course genes matter, and genetic differences can influence human traits. But “everything about life is rooted in genes” doesn’t mean every difference between populations is genetically caused. You still have to demonstrate the specific genetic mechanism responsible for the specific outcome. The Zimbabwe example actually shows why I’m cautious. The World Bank’s historical account describes a highly unequal economy under Rhodesia, with major differences in land ownership, income and access to productive assets, followed by sanctions, war and major policy changes after independence. That’s a much more complicated history than simply “Whites left and the country collapsed.” And the migration argument cuts both ways. Africans moving to richer countries isn’t evidence that they believe in racial superiority; income gaps themselves are a major driver of migration, and the World Bank explicitly identifies them as such. So I’m not denying genetic influence on human variation. I’m simply saying that proving genes influence intelligence is one proposition, while proving racial genetic differences explain Africa’s lower HDI is another. The second requires considerably more evidence than the first. Happy weekend! |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wwwtortoise(m): 2:54pm On Sep 23 |
IbeOkehie: And Mr wwwtortoise...here's an unassailabe argument that shows that the PARAMETERS of IQ or intelligence is genetically determined.
Every measure has determined that MALES produce a greater number of individuals with extremely high AND extremely low IQ than FEMALES.
Females are predominantly AVERAGE IQ or intelligence or under the statistical bell curve.
The major and some would say THE ONLY difference between the genders is GENETIC. It can't be blamed on culture, environment or anythings else.
The OUTPUT also confirms the stats. The highest earning nurses are CRNAs.....it requires quite rigorous mental and physical capacity. For whatever reason, 87% of nurses are women but 40% of CRNAs are men 
There's more men in prison than women...people in prison are generally very low IQ.
Harvard President Larry Summers lost his job for pointing out these stats in an informal speech given to a women's science group or something.
The female SCIENTISTS agreed the data is correct but objected to his TONE or him saying it at all. 
That's the USA, in these times.
Good Luck to Nigerians. Good day sir, I genuinely think that there’s a real statistical point here, but I wouldn’t call the conclusion unassailable. There does seem to be greater male variability on some cognitive measures, but that doesn’t automatically prove the difference is genetic. That’s where I think the argument moves a little too quickly from what we observe to why it happens. The CRNA and prison examples don’t really settle it either, because occupational choice, education, selection and social factors can all influence those numbers. And interestingly, Larry Summers himself later said his remarks about variability had gone beyond what the research established. So yes, there may be genuine sex differences in cognitive variability. But the cause is a separate question and the fact that a difference exists doesn’t by itself prove that genetics is responsible. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wwwtortoise(m): 3:08pm On Sep 10 |
IbeOkehie: Most people don't take time to think through INDIVIDUAL and GROUP differences.
1) You Mr Basilico may outperform White people at your job, comparing individual to individual.
2) That doesn't take away from the FACT that White race as a GROUP outperforms Black race as a GROUP.
There's absolutely no contradiction between the two.
White Americans are taller than Chinese men.
Donald Trump is a White American and he is NOT taller than a Chinese man named Yao Ming.
Another White American named Danny Davito is likely shorter than 90% of Chinese men.
This is elementary statistical stuff. It's amazing to me that Nigerians as a group don't seem to understand this. Anytime they hear "US/UK is a better place to achieve economic success" their REFLEXIVE RESPONSE is always "but Dangote made his money in Nigeria" These are likely UNIVERSITY GRADS talking this mess.
There's no need for anyone to react irrationally or defensively to GROUP comparisons. The final arbiter of racial quality is PRODUCTIVITY that improves the quality of human life, as in HDI. Those who tell us that ALL RACES ARE EQUAL can't defend that statement. You can't have Nigeria as the Poverty Capital of the World and tell me it contains any tribe that's equal to or better than the Koreans. Yeah someone will soon say what about North Korea but at least they have nukes and not even USA can attack them....Nigeria INVITED the USA to come bomb Sokoto.
Black people achieve their highest HDI when they live in nations that are dominated by or strongly influenced by Whites, specifically Anglos. The status of Nigeria as the Poverty Capital of the World proves that left to themselves, Black Africans can't generate superlative HDI. That's why I'm willing to bet over 90% on this Nairaland living in Europe & North America CHOOSE to live in majority White neighborhoods.
Anyway...
Good Luck to Nigerians. Yes, there are significant differences in outcomes between populations, and we shouldn’t be afraid to acknowledge that. But HDI, income or national productivity don’t automatically prove inherent racial differences in ability. Countries are shaped by institutions, capital, education, infrastructure, technology, history and incentives. The Korea Vs Nigeria comparison actually illustrates this. Korea’s success tells us a lot about the environment and institutions it built; it doesn’t necessarily tell us that Koreans are inherently more capable than Nigerians. The more interesting question, in my view, is why some societies are much better at converting human potential into prosperity. That’s a serious question. Turning the answer into a racial hierarchy is a much bigger claim and one these statistics alone don’t establish. I’ll like to read your thoughts on this. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: President Putin Is 73 Years Old Today (Photos) by wwwtortoise(m): 12:20pm On Oct 07, 2025 |
Shout-out to Galaxy, today is her birthday too. Putin must be a lucky man to share same D.O.B with her. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump To Rename US Department Of Defense To 'Department Of War' by wwwtortoise(m): 8:33am On Sep 05, 2025 |
What is wrong with the renaming? Angel Michael is what again?
America is God’s own country and they follow the model.
War is more proactive and intimidating than Defense. |
Travel › Re: Memoirs From Chile by wwwtortoise(m): 1:24pm On Aug 18, 2025 |
tensazangetsu20: Men I don’t know what to advise you. Entry level isn’t easy at all now. Hi Tenza, I sent you a pm. I want to engage you in a discussion that is unrelated to the thread. |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Vs Manchester United (1 - 0) On 16th May 2025 by wwwtortoise(m): 9:39pm On May 16, 2025 |
Nazgul: I've switched off my TV so I can focus on more reasonable things.
Those days when Manutd and Chelsea meet, it's usually a clash of titans.
Today their playing like English league 1 teams. It’s like watching paint dry. I wonder how fans who buy tickets bear with such optical torment. Players running around like headless chickens, unable to string together a couple of passes. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Vs Manchester United (1 - 0) On 16th May 2025 by wwwtortoise(m): 9:23pm On May 16, 2025 |
Nazgul: I've lost interest in the match jare. Whatever the scoreline ends doesn't concern me. The match is an eyesore. A shadow of the glory and beauty of what Chelsea vs Manchester United used to be. It lacks cadence, professionalism, and quality. I lost interest in the 32nd minute. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: PSG Vs Liverpool: UCL (0 - 1) - On 5th March 2025 by wwwtortoise(m): 8:47pm On Mar 05, 2025 |
It’s going to rain goals in this match. Whoever scores more wins the game. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Vs West Ham (0 - 1) On 22nd February 2025 by wwwtortoise(m): 7:49pm On Feb 22, 2025 |
jojothaiv: The result says otherwise and the goal is to make sure that Manchester United have a realistic shot at relaxation while Arsenal maintain their almost there position(that's if there's such thing like that). EPL champions were already crowned last year December. The struggle now is for other teams to secure an European spot and the likes of Manchester United is to avoid relegation. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Vs West Ham (0 - 1) On 22nd February 2025 by wwwtortoise(m): 7:47pm On Feb 22, 2025 |
Leonardo4: You don loss money be that You win some, you lose some. The goal is to have more wins than losses. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Vs West Ham (0 - 1) On 22nd February 2025 by wwwtortoise(m): 7:46pm On Feb 22, 2025 |
Wordson: you don win na.. congratulations  Congratulations is in order because them boys deserved what they got. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Vs West Ham (0 - 1) On 22nd February 2025 by wwwtortoise(m): 4:58pm On Feb 22, 2025 |
dustmalik: I will be honest with all Arsenal fans here. Regardless of the result today, Liverpool is going to win the league. The reason is simple. You can't see Liverpool performing like a team that doesn't know what they're doing. Home and Away, they play with utmost motivation. They may miss chances, but you can't see them performing like a team without purpose.
Arsenal lacks the required mentality to go all the way. I have been saying this for long. Relax, Arsenal will win this game. If you have spare cash jump on the odd. It’s a freebie. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Leicester City Vs Arsenal (0 - 2) On 15th February 2025 by wwwtortoise(m): 2:25pm On Feb 15, 2025 |
Tunni: See watin my team dey play, absolutely nonsense. Arteta I hope this message finds you, in as much you are our coach please leave.
You have the opportunity to sign a free agent, yet you said you will find the solution within, now let me ask you; where is the solution?
I’ve never seen a stubborn coach as this. I spit on your face . . . and the lamentations just begun. Early kickoff in EPL is never a walk in the park regardless of the teams playing. May the best team win. |
Phones › Re: Tiktok Goes Offline In America by wwwtortoise(m): 1:40pm On Jan 19, 2025 |
International politics at play. TikTok was number 1 social platform in USA and the Chinese government have major stake in it, which translates to a national security risk to the US government.
America offered to buyout their operations in the US to no avail. Hence, the ban.
In no time, other US allies (on cybersecurity); UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand will follow suit. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Trump Suggests He Could Use Military Force To Acquire Panama Canal And Greenland by wwwtortoise(m): 4:28pm On Jan 08, 2025 |
Now I understand why Putin and Trump are pals. Birds of a feather. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Liverpool Vs Manchester United (2 - 2) On 5th January 2025 by wwwtortoise(m): 7:09pm On Jan 05, 2025 |
Hisroyalbadmeat: I perceive that the more you pray for some body to Fail,He keeps excelling Change your ways, join the winning team. Consistency in winning has underlying strategies. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Crystal Palace Vs Chelsea (1 - 1) On 4th January 2025 by wwwtortoise(m): 5:46pm On Jan 04, 2025 |
Chelsea have young and unintelligent players football-wise.
In-game management zero. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Ipswich Town Vs Chelsea (2 - 0) On 30th December 2024 by wwwtortoise(m): 10:30pm On Dec 30, 2024 |
Chelsea should better lose this game honorably.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Wolves Vs Manchester United (2 - 0) On 26th December 2024 by wwwtortoise(m): 8:01pm On Dec 26, 2024 |
N2B2: Wolves are useless. No wonder they were 17th. They should be over 2 - 0 by now. C’mon give them some credit. 1-0, 2-0 or 3-0 entails same 3points which they desperately need to move away from the relegation zone. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Wolves Vs Manchester United (2 - 0) On 26th December 2024 by wwwtortoise(m): 7:53pm On Dec 26, 2024 |
Man United players can’t match the energy and physicality of the wolves. Their best result tonight will be a draw. |
Travel › Re: I’m Scared Of Returning Home, Nigeria’s Failed Heathcare Killed My Mum– US-Based by wwwtortoise(m): 10:36pm On Nov 30, 2024 |
AirBere: I left Nigeria in 2001 and I have zero regrets. But for this lady? Why is she sounding like she is being forced to come back?.
Although I still visit Nigeria but I enjoy Scotland and will remain there. Good to have a NL comrade here in Caledonia. Best decision of my life was giving my life to Christ. Second best decision was leaving Nigeria for Scotland. |
Career › Re: At What Point Did You Tell Yourself "Damn It! I Am Done With This Job"! by wwwtortoise(m): 11:05am On Nov 30, 2024 |
omooba05: There is this micro finance marketing job i got with bc kash.. both employer,enployee,customer are all mad ..it will take the grace of God for you to be alive after 1year.. curse,swear,fight,police station everyday. Gbos gbas no dey finish bc kashThat name sounds familiar. It’s one of the early ones in the loan shark industry right? |
Politics › Re: Nigerians Are More Loyal To Their Ethnic Groups Than Nigeria – Goodluck Jonathan by wwwtortoise(m): 3:44am On Nov 28, 2024 |
Nigeria is a disjointed union of envious and egoistic tribes, designed for political business. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Southampton Vs Liverpool (2 - 3) On 24th November 2024 by wwwtortoise(m): 4:45pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
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Politics › Re: #ondodecides2024: Politicians Induce Voters With Food Items, Money, Fertilisers by wwwtortoise(m): 3:49pm On Nov 16, 2024 |
I have come to understand Nigeria and her people on matters of sociopolitical dynamics.
The synopsis of my findings below -
A race that sold their tribesmen for salt, mirror and gunpowder will easily sell their votes for a cup of orange juice. |
Business › Re: Cost Of Goods To Rise As Bank Systems Migration Cripples Cargo Clearance At Port by wwwtortoise(m): 4:05pm On Nov 04, 2024 |
This just made me realize Isaac Newton is indeed a genius to have posited that “actions and reactions are equal and opposite”
The more cost of things rise, the more difficult it is for pen1s to rise. After all, Nigeria needs to be depopulated. |
Sports › Re: Real Madrid Furious: "The Ballon D'or No Longer Exists For Us" by wwwtortoise(m): 8:43pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
Don27tiky: head to head Rodri outplayed Vini when they met over two legs in the champions league. Vini won the champions leaque but Rodri’s team was declared the best team in the champions league largely because of Rodri contributions. Rodri was the winner and best player of euro while Vini was far below average for his country in Copa America. Rodri contributes not only goals for his team but cover and carries his team unbeaten Your submission has truth in it but no t entirely. The decision is made after collating votes by top journalists as you and I already know right. The crux is the grading system based on a number of criteria like fair play, individual brilliance, etc. which is largely not as transparent as before. |
Sports › Re: Real Madrid Furious: "The Ballon D'or No Longer Exists For Us" by wwwtortoise(m): 6:03pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
Football politics at play. Ballon D’ Or lost its appeal last year when Messi won for the record 8th time at the expense of a more deserving Erling Haaland.
It’s more like Ballon D’ PR for marketing and commercial purposes. |
Travel › Re: Lagos Street Bike Racer Loses Control, Kills 4 People In Lekki (Video, Pictures) by wwwtortoise(m): 5:57pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
1001 ways to die. Quick to copy useless western hobbies yet lack ability to deploy health, safety and environmental protection measures. |
Nairaland General › Re: 7 Things I Regret Not Doing While I Was Young by wwwtortoise(m): 5:55pm On Oct 28, 2024 |
Mistakes are better than regrets |