₦airaland Forum

The end of boko boys is near! They have no hiding place again. The joint military task force is doing a great job in combating and combing the terrorist from their strong hold hence the desperate attacks to acquire new settlements.

In Gej's voice "boko haram shall be a thing of the past". Kudos to our brave soldiers! Our prayers for wisdom to defeat the haramites are with you.

Nice one Mr president! It seems people ignored the part of the news that stated a nation wide assessment had to be carried out on universities. Meaning, the process of assesment took some time. Moreover, the first batch of funds was released last year. So for those saying why now or its political, don't be blind to these facts.

Guys! I am aware there's a what's app BMW chat group but don't let that kill this lovely nairaland thread. More grease to your gear boxes guys! Someday we would all meet up with our BMW's! The first of its kind in Nigeria! Bless you all

Spot on Reno! Ancient people's congress (APC) is a no no in this digital and jet age. The broom is for the village! We live in a modern society where vacuum's are the order of the day

Hay fee cee and lies are like Rice and stew You can't really separate Them both when mixed together. The same way they intend to clone pvc's in other to get multiple votes to rig the elections as they did with the AIT polls! What a shame! The elections ent here and they rigging already! Even rigging wouldnt save them come failbuhari 14

dabossman:
Motive? How about doing the bidding of their C-in-C who has vested interest in the eligibility of Buhari to contest in this election? Don't forget that this is Nigeria and the army have on several occasions been accused of being partisan. Mind you the Katsina State ministry of education released the contentious statement of results on the request of Buhari, and the Cambridge Assessment Board have also said they will release the results only if Buhari makes a formal request. Even WAEC will not release the result except on Buhari's request. Why then did the army call a press conference to release documents in Buhari's file without the consent of Buhari? Is there an ulterior motive on their own part? Could they maybe have removed his WASC results from the file and released the rest? The fact that Buhari's opponent, the [/b][b]President controls the army is enough motive.

As for the principal's letter, it is simply a recommendation/reference letter, which has been said to be the practice then. it's like applying for some professional courses and your employer writes a recommendation letter to state that you are suitably qualified for that course. Have you not seen people processing admission into tertiary institutions with "awaiting results"?

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I knew it was going to come to blaming GEJ as seen in your post! no other reason would make sense to you other than this.. I must say your submission was not in any way objective. from your post I could deduct your an Hay fee cee fellow and there's nothing you and your likes enjoy most than playing the blame game on GEJ. knowing the way you reason and waiting for the 'GEJ is to blame' phrase I must say am done with you. happy voting come the failbuhari project which is working according to schedule. Adios!!

dabossman:
Motive? How about doing the bidding of their C-in-C who has vested interest in the eligibility of Buhari to contest in this election? Don't forget that this is Nigeria and the army have on several occasions been accused of being partisan. Mind you the Katsina State ministry of education released the contentious statement of results on the request of Buhari, and the Cambridge Assessment Board have also said they will release the results only if Buhari makes a formal request. Even WAEC will not release the result except on Buhari's request. Why then did the army call a press conference to release documents in Buhari's file without the consent of Buhari? Is there an ulterior motive on their own part? Could they maybe have removed his WASC results from the file and released the rest? The fact that Buhari's opponent, the President controls the army is enough motive.

As for the principal's letter, it is simply a recommendation/reference letter, which has been said to be the practice then. it's like applying for some professional courses and your employer writes a recommendation letter to state that you are suitably qualified for that course. Have you not seen people processing admission into tertiary institutions with "awaiting results"?

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I knew it would come to blaming GEJ! what other excuse could you possibly come up with! from your response I can deduct your an hay fee cee biased fellow and wouldn't waste no time trying to reason objectively with you in regards to the highlighted bits in your post. All you and your like do is to make excuses and where there

dabossman:
Bro, I'm glad you said you are not into law. The law is not always so straitjacketed. It is subject to interpretation and also based on evidence available. So you cannot conclude that anyone has committed perjury until you can prove that he knowingly lied under oath.

I'm a manager in the organization where I work, and trust me if I ask someone to hand something over to my subordinate, maybe while I'm out of the office, I make it a duty to ask when I return. I don't expect a client or customer to come back and be asking "abeg, you don give oga that my file?"

From the bolded part of your statement, you have basically pointed out that our educational system is lax, hence a young and then naive undergraduate like me shouldn't have taken a full grown adult for his word (not minding the fact that I came from a secondary school where things worked). Can we then also infer that the Nigerian army could also have been lax administratively? Or maybe even complicity and even partisan in their claim that they don't have the document. The fact that Buhari hasn't disputed their claim doesn't mean he or his lawyers won't do so in court.

At the end of the day, like it was with my course adviser, it becomes his word against theirs.

Bro, I understand the whole back and forth argument of receiving or not receiving the document in a law court. However, don't forget the law also looks at motive. Now if I may ask you, what objective reason can be given as to why the military would lie against Buhari not submitting his WASC when he did? What would be their motive to do so? Don't forget every other document he used in applying to the NA is there except his WASC. So I'll love to hear your reason even if it's a cooked up one.

Just so your aware as well, the principal stood in for Buhari to say he would pass some subjects as seen in the letter presented to the NA. Now if Buhari has his WASC why stand in for him rather than just give him the certificate to present to the NA himself? Think bro!

dabossman:
Modified my post in case you missed it. Oh, and I think the case in court is about eligibility, not perjury.

Just to add. How will the prosecution prove beyond reasonable doubt that Buhari was aware that his certificate was not with the army, or lied about it. I'll give you a personal experience. When I got into 100L in the university, I went to register at my department and was required to submit copies of my academic credentials (WAEC & JAMB). I met the course adviser just as he was leaving for a meeting. He gave me a form to fill and asked me to submit it with my academic results to the department's secretary as he couldn't wait. He clearly stated he would collect it from her. I did as I was told and went my way, a proud, registered jambite.

Fast forward to almost the end of the session and I go to check my 1st semester results like everybody only to be told I was not registered in the department and hence had no records or result in the department. Apparently, the course adviser never collected my credentials. (Only God knows what happened to it till date.) Now, I had been going about believing I was a member of the department, attending classes, writing exams, only to be giving a shocker after almost a year. Imaging if I had sworn to an affidavit that I was a student in that department (for whatever reason) only for someone to make a background check to confirm my claim. Would I be said to have committed perjury?

If Buhari never submitted it to them in the first place then what is there to prove? He only said it was with them due to assumption and a high level of ignorance maybe stemming from old age or rapid forgetfulness as witnessed in several of his rallies nation wide. Afterall, he Buhari is not disputing the fact that the NA doesn't have it, that's why he offered to go to his school in his statement to obtain it. So there's no question that the NA docked or tampered with the said document because it was never there in the first place.


Not into law or psychology but for a 100 level student you had way too much laxity on your side. You should have gone to the department's secretary to confirm if indeed your course adviser had received the documents you had placed in her possession for him and not assume it had been passed on before you started parading yourself as a legitimate student, knowing the Nigerian educational system, that was a major error on your side. furthermore, you cannot swear to something you are not a 100% sure off, assuming this was a life and death situation would you have just gone ahead to swear on your life that your course adviser had received your document when you never saw it for yourself?

My point is, if you are not sure and accurate on a matter, never swear an oath to its accuracy. if in doubt you should make an inquiry to ascertain the status before confidently taking a stand.

to answer your question, yes you have committed perjury through assumption and ignorance which is no excuse in law.

clevvermind:
it is with the military.

last I heard IBB Stole it

dabossman:
Well, like I said in my initial post, I would like to see this go to court. I'm not here to discuss GEJ or Buhari, but the charge of perjury based on the scenario at hand and the possibility of making it stick. Let's see how the prosecution and the defense will state their case if it ever gets to court. However, note that even the army admitted in their press conference that they really do not know what the procedure was as far as submitting and storing of academic records back in 1961.

well I must say your in luck today because the case has so far made its way to the courts as wished. see link:

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/certificate-controversy-abuja-lawyer-drags-buhari-court/

Also you might want to read what senior lawyers think on this matter. see link:

http://www.tribune.com.ng/news/top-stories/item/27726-probe-buhari-over-certificate-senior-lawyers-task-igp


keenly following up the case myself, its going to be an interesting one.. cheers

As the February 2015 general elections gather momentum, the Igbo apex ruling body, Ohanaeze Ndigbo, yesterday in Awka, the Anambra State Capital, endorsed President Goodluck Jonathan , the People Democratic Party ,(PDP) standardbearer for the presidential election.
Addressing newsmen, the President of Ohanaeze in Anambra State who is also the chairman of Ohanaeze Ndigbo State Presidents Forum, Chris Eluemunoh, said that the seven presidents—general of the seven states that make up the Igbo nation which include, Anambra; Chris Elumunoh, Enugu; Dr Eric Ebeh, Imo; Dr Ezechi Chukwu , Abia; Chief Emmanuel Oparanta, Ebonyi; Pius Nwankwo, Rivers; Prince Igo Okparamma and Delta; Ifeanyichukwu Onwukamike, resolved to endorse him because of the need to implement the national conference recommendations as he was the initiator of the conference that they said, would unite the country .

In a communiqué signed by the seven presidents-general, they posited that since the All Progressive Congress (APC), opted out of the conference, it meant that the initiator, President Jonathan would be voted to implement it .

According to them, “considering the realities of the forthcoming 2015 general elections, Ohanaeze Ndigbo State Presidents forum, has objectively made a critical assessment of the scenario and our findings revealed that the implementation of the just concluded National Conference resolutions is both timely and necessary for the sake of equity, fairness and common good of all Nigerians as an entity”.

The group reasoned that since the conference was the brainchild of President Jonathan , it was then logical and impressive that he would be desirous to implement the said confab resolutions rather than any other candidate..

“In view of the forgoing, the Ohanaeze state presidents forum therefore endorses President Jonathan in the forthcoming presidential election and urges all Ndigbo in the 36 states of the federation and Abuja to vote massively for him.”

On the alleged crises rocking the apex Igbo body, they stated that Chief Enwo Igariweh and Dr. Joe Nworgu remained the President- General and Secretary General of the body adding “we disassociate ourselves and condemn herewith illicit and inordinate activities of Chief Mbazulike Amaechi and his cohorts in their bid to undermine the integrity of the duly elected National Executive Council (NEC) of Ohanaeze Ndigbo”.

They hinted that Chief Mbazulike and cohorts lacked the locus standi, statutory legitimacy and moral wherewithal to decimate or truncate the constitutional four year term of the Igariweh led executive .

“Mbazulike is neither the leader nor spokesperson of Ndigbo and should refrain from parading himself as same “
According to them,” Mbazulike and his cohorts are running the risk of extensive sanctions from Ohanaeze Ndigbo if they do not desist from their well-established antithetical utterances and inimical activities geared toward denigrating the present Ohanaeze Ndigbo NEC and the corporate integrity of Ohanaeze.“

The forum condemned the alleged bombing of its secretariat by an unscrupulous elements in the night of Jan. 24 2015 and implored security operatives to fish out the perpetrators of this heinous crime to face the wrath of the law







@bolded that's the only thing such an evil party Is known for! opposing change while they seek to implement change.. they hay fee cee goons still wants a constitution that favors the northern 'born to rule' at the detriment of other regions which make up the Nigerian state. its game over for the aggrieved peoples congress.... very soon youths just clocked 18 would declare their total support for GEJ

Good news for hay fee cee! another chance to rejoice and castigate GEJ... just the kind of news that make enemies of Nigeria sleep at night. boko must be a thing of the past, so enjoy bad news whilst it last.

dabossman:
Ignorance and telling the truth to the best of your knowledge are two different things. How do we know that the army board isn't lying? Can they provide the copies of other officers who joined the army since 1960?

Bros, why would the army want to lie against a 'general'? please don't tell me GEJ has a hand in this as other e-urchins would say off some illegal substance. if indeed buhari attached his certificate to his enrolment form and the army states other wise, wouldn't all hell be let lose on the NA knowing they are deliberately slandering him? but buhari didn't question, argue or file any case against them because he knows they spoke the truth. I am sure officers from the 60's that have attached copies of their certificates in their application with the NA if questioned or requested would be made available by the NA.

dabossman:
Personally, I can't see how anybody wants to prove that Buhari lied under oath. He swore to an affidavit based on what he believed to be true.

If a father who is not in possession of his kids birth certificate swears to an affidavit that all the children born to him by his wife are his, and later discovers (maybe through a DNA test) that one or all of the kids are actually not his; would you say he lied under oath. Hard to prove. He swore to the affidavit based on what he believed to be true. Is it possible that the army board could be in possession of his credentials (original or copies)? The answer is yes. Could they have lost it or destroyed it? Maybe. The burden of proof is on his accusers. I'd like to see this go to court. The case would be an interesting one.

Ignorance is not an excuse in law..

Maybe try driving a 100km on a 40km road and when the cops stop you, tell them you had no idea and thought it was a 100km road and see if they just tap you on your back and say welldone and move on!

dunkem21:
Hahahahaha.

The chic keeps [/b]muddling up English language and Mathematics.[b]

I suggest Lai Mohammed proof reads her tweets before she clicks enter.

My brother! Unfortunately the bolded are two subjects her dad ent good at either

You all hater

Hay pee cee cry babies! How does it feel now?? for months your party and it's paid agents ridiculed PEJ with all manner of falshood and propaganda from her English to grammar to accent. Like that wasn't enough a video was made to 'there is God'. Some even went as far as bringing in their children about how the son ate 1 billion naira also rock spending for food, how they were foster kids and all sorts of slander. In all of this GEJ kept cool knowing he who laughs last, laughs the best. Look at you all whining and playing the pity/sentimental card like failures that you are!

It sucks to be an aggrieved people's congress member now!
It sucks to be you guys on the complaining and hopeless side.
The world has made a ridicule of all you and your party stands for!

However, the saying goes 'cross over while the grass is green'. Come failbuhari 14th you shall all hide your ugly heads in shame and utter disgrace.

Spits on your party and the evil they stand for! Ta ta..... Loosers!!

This coming from hay pee cee!! Hahahaha can the devil repent! Another attempt to wink pdp into slowing down so they restrategize and come back hard like their boko brothers! Nice try loosers! No one is buying this! Do your worst! Now their no certificate master has been arm twisted to his knees, they seek diplomacy ?? This is just getting started! Tune to A.I.T and enjoy the show

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