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Religion / Re: How God Killed 500,000 people In A week! by Yisraylite(m): 10:22pm On Jan 18, 2010
@Morpheus24

Thats the best analogy you could come up with. an armed robber and the purpose it serves?

I like to keep it nice and simple so even a kindergardner could understand, I don't feel the need to put my intellectual prowess on display, unlike you I'm secure enough within myself to keep it simple grin
Religion / Re: How God Killed 500,000 people In A week! by Yisraylite(m): 9:24pm On Jan 18, 2010
@ Morpheus24
yeah yeah Ywh, Elohim, Allah, creator What ever floats your bubble my bro.

since your 'creator" Ywh or whatever you may refer to it as is so good at predictions and in your mind obviously "created these tectonic plates dare tell me when it/he/she says the next natural disaster will occur. Its place and time to be exact please. none of this generelization poo that is common of man made predictions


Bro, you're starting to scare me sad shocked I'm I causing your dumb matrix to go into an overload? You're attempting to reply faster than your brain can process my posts, and that could be to your detriment, Did you even contemplate the analogy I just gave you

dare tell me when it/he/she says the next natural disaster will occur. Its place and time to be exact please. none of this generelization poo that is common of man made predictions

Here it is again, so calm down and ride with me on this one

Information of that nature would not serve any purpose I'd liken that to an armed robber giving you the time and day when he is coming to rob you, Now doofus Morpheus what kind of sense would that make? cool wink

Religion / Re: How God Killed 500,000 people In A week! by Yisraylite(m): 9:05pm On Jan 18, 2010
@ Morpheus24

ha ha! I thought your god predicted everything for you. why bother about tectonic plate activities.

Now can you give me a time and place for the next natural disaster or will you coons keep telling us of the fact after it happens.

I choose to think you're being rather facetious, if your ganja deteriorated brain may recall, I told you I don't worship an gods , besides if you've been following my line of reasoning,I would dare ask you who do you think created the tectonic plates in the first place?,please bare in mind, none of that big bang explosion theory mumbo jumbo, cos I'll burn you on that one grin

Now can you give me a time and place for the next natural disaster or will you coons keep telling us of the fact after it happens.

Information of that nature would not serve any purpose undecided I'd liken that to an armed robber giving you the time and day when he is coming to rob you, Now doofus Morpheus  grin what kind of sense would that make? wink
Religion / Re: How God Killed 500,000 people In A week! by Yisraylite(m): 8:55pm On Jan 18, 2010
@ Morpheus24

You do know that scientist had predicted that a  quake was imminnent and warned haitians officials to prepare for the disaster.

Did the big brained scenists warn of the earthquake that happened on sunday? or did NOAA warn the indonisians of the 2004 Tsunami?




Sunday January 17, 2010

Earthquake hits off Argentina coast; no damages

BUENOS AIRES (Reuters) - A 6.3 magnitude earthquake struck off the southern coast of Argentina on Sunday, the U.S. Geological Survey said, but there were no reports of injuries or damages.

The quake was centered about 220 miles (355 km) southeast of Ushuaia, Argentina, at a depth of 6.2 miles (10 km), USGS said. It struck at 8 a.m. local time (1200 GMT).

No tsunami warnings were issued by the West Coast and Alaska Tsunami Warning Center or the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center.

"The quake was not felt in Ushuaia and there are no victims or damages," Hector Varela, an Argentine civil defense official told the Telam state-run news agency.

(Reporting by Jorge Otaola; Writing by Americas Desk and Kevin Gray, Editing by Sandra Maler)



Source http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/1/18/worldupdates/2010-01-17T205633Z_01_NOOTR_RTRMDNC_0_-454605-1&sec=Worldupdates

You seem to be placing too much trust in man and his tricknolgy undecided based on the Haiti's geology and past tectonic plate activity this scenario was warned of, but no specifics were ever issued, so your point is moot on this one!
Religion / Re: How God Killed 500,000 people In A week! by Yisraylite(m): 8:12pm On Jan 18, 2010
@ abu Z

Mr Yisaylit, am a muslim so don't show me incest in the bible

I didn't understand your comment ,Where did you see any comments on incest in my post

Please clarify
Religion / Re: How God Killed 500,000 people In A week! by Yisraylite(m): 7:34pm On Jan 18, 2010
@ Morpheus24
Blank brain

You do know that scientist had predicted that a  quake was imminnent and warned haitians officials to prepare for the disaster.

I guess your blank brain will try to justify this religiously as well or maybe its that pact the hatians made with the devil you know

I have a prophecy to make as well . [b]I predict with almost certainty that there will be a similar catastrophe like this that will occur within the next 1000 years[/b]Am i now a prophet Abu zola and YisraelEE?

Bro, if you weren't trying to be purposely daft undecided, you would see I already beat you to the punch!

More destruction coming soon!!!!

As long as these traits continue amongst the human populace,expect more destruction around the world, either so called natural or man made

Now Neo commands Morpheus to bow down and postrate before he who wields power over your dumb matrix grin tongue
Religion / Re: How God Killed 500,000 people In A week! by Yisraylite(m): 7:21pm On Jan 18, 2010
@ Jcross22

@abuZOLA, THIS IS NOT WORK OF GOD . THIS IS NATURAL DISASTER .

Who created nature? if you don't know, then you're all crossed up undecided

@Abu Z

@Yisrael- fornication and adultery plus unclothedness is rampant among the people this is the main reason for God's wrath, God does not care whether you are a believer or not, if indeed you are a believer then why did you fornicate or dress half unclothed.  When God wanted to destroy the people of Prophet Lot, He told them to leave the territory because when God's wrath descend it spare no one. 

This would fall under the
A heart that devises wicked plans
category,it takes scheming and planning, for a man to go sleep with another man's wife or for a woman to go sleep with another woman's husband!This is a wickedness in society! and if you recall the people of Sodom and Gomorrah planned and schemed to commit homosexual acts with the Malak sent by  YAHAWAH to Lot!,but not only this they also were guilty of this:

Eze 16:49 Look, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom: She and her daughter had pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. 


Eze 16:50 And they were haughty and committed abomination before Me; therefore I took them away as I saw [fit]. 


Salamah Bro!
Religion / Re: How God Killed 500,000 people In A week! by Yisraylite(m): 6:16pm On Jan 18, 2010
@ Poster
at least 100,000 people have been killed in the recent earthquake that hit haiti according to official news reports.

again i ask the xtians why would a good god allow this to happen?
even the ARCHBISHOP OF HAITI was killed with other devoted christians and non xtians alike.so who called the shot on this ?
isaiah 45: 7 says it all!
yeah god did it again.quite funny, 
 

Your post seems rather biased and  definitely does not give an objective view, being on no religious side,but on humanity's side let me give you this perspective

Islam is Indonesia's dominant religion and approximately 86%, or about 200 million, of its population identify as Muslims, making it the world's largest Muslim population.

The Indonesian Central Statistic Bureau (BPS) conducts a census every 10 years. The latest data available, from 2000, indicated that of 240,271,522 people, 86.1 percent of the population label themselves Muslim, 5.7 percent Protestant, 3 percent Catholic, 1.8 percent Hindu, and 3.4 percent "other or unspecified"[1]. The country's religious composition is a politically charged issue, with some commentators saying that the census perennially undercounts non-Muslims.[citation needed]

Most Muslims are Sunni, although some follow other branches of Islam. Shia number around one million.[2] In general, the Muslim community can be categorized in terms of two orientations: "modernists," who closely adhere to orthodox theology while embracing modern learning; and "traditionalists," who tend to follow the interpretations of local religious leaders (predominantly on Java) and religious teachers at Islamic boarding schools.


Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Indonesia

Banda Aceh is the provincial capital and largest city of Aceh, Indonesia, located on the island of Sumatra, with an elevation of 21 meters. The population was approximately 260,000 in 2006[citation needed]. Banda Aceh is located at the northwestern tip of Indonesia at the mouth of the River Krueng Aceh.

The city was originally named Kutaraja, and determined as the provincial capital in 1956.[1] Kuta Raja means "City of the King", in reference to the founding of the Aceh Sultanate from Champa origins. Later its name was changed to Banda Aceh, with the first part of the name coming from the Persian bandar (بندر) meaning "port" or "haven". It is also proudly referred to as the "port to Meccah", as Islam first arrived in Aceh before spreading throughout Southeast Asia.[citation needed]

Until December 26, 2004, Banda Aceh was not frequently the subject of international discussion. On that day the Indian Ocean earthquake struck off the western coast of Sumatra. Banda Aceh was the closest major city to the earthquake's epicenter, and suffered further damage when a tsunami struck shortly afterwards. It was the worst hit area out of all the locations hit. 130,000 people died and many more were injured. The tsunamis resulted from an earthquake of magnitude 9.3 and struck at about 6:58am. The epicenter was about 155 miles off the coast of Banda Aceh[2].

The elected mayor and vice-mayor of Banda Aceh are Mawardi Nurdin and Illiza Saaduddin.


Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banda_Aceh

Did anyone ask where Allah was? when this happened,It is therefore my conclusion that the Creator of mankind does care about your petty religious affiliations, over 130,000 people died when the tsunami hit banda aceh, in a country that has the world's largest islamic population, so it does not make a bit of a difference if one is a christian,moslem ,athiest,hebrew,hindu etc.

Pro 6:16 These six things YAHAWAH hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: 


Pro 6:17 A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, 


Pro 6:18 A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, 


Pro 6:19 A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren


As long as these traits continue amongst the human populace,expect more destruction around the world, either so called natural or man made undecided
Religion / Re: How God Killed 500,000 people In A week! by Yisraylite(m): 7:03pm On Jan 16, 2010
@ Jangublah blah blah!!  grin grin grin

You ain't seen nothing yet Mr clestial church of fake a.s.s christ shocked cheesy,Let's see how long you live b4  YAHAWAH ALLAHAYAM  snuffs your undercover a.s.s. out grin

@ Abu Z Bro's how far ? check out ogaga4luv's thread https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-304768.64.html#msg5324349

Salamah!
Religion / Re: Are There Human On Earth Before Adam? by Yisraylite(m): 6:59pm On Jan 16, 2010
@freethinke

Dear Yisraylite,

perhaps a better way to put this argument is simply that the credibility of the BiBLE as a means of accurate historical record of the so called "creation story" is being brought into the question here by schmuck.

It is not the question of Adam and eve per say, it is rather, can and should we believe in the bible? yet here u are quoting from the very same book that metaphorically stands accused in court. the accused cannot be his own witness in court.

Free Thinker.

Bro, I was just responding to the question
Re: Are There Human On Earth Before Adam?
Your comment would almost be viewed as a rule change in the middle of game.

Yisraylite wink
Religion / Re: How God Killed 500,000 people In A week! by Yisraylite(m): 4:03pm On Jan 16, 2010
@ Topic

Deu 32:39 'Now see that I, [even] I, [am] He, And [there is] no God, only Me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; Nor [is there any] who can deliver from My hand.

Isa 45:7 I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, YAHAWAH, do all these [things].

If this shocks you, then you ain't seen nothing yet!

Coming to more cities near you!

Isa 24:3 The land shall be entirely emptied and utterly plundered, For YAHAWAH has spoken this word. 


Isa 24:4 The earth mourns [and] fades away, The world languishes [and] fades away; The haughty people of the earth languish. 


Isa 24:5 The earth is also defiled under its inhabitants, Because they have transgressed the laws, Changed the ordinance, Broken the everlasting covenant. 


Isa 24:6 Therefore the curse has devoured the earth, And those who dwell in it are desolate. Therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, And few men [are] left.


More destruction coming soon!!!!
Religion / Re: Hanukkah( The Jewish Festival Of Lights) Starts On 12th December by Yisraylite(m): 3:46pm On Jan 16, 2010
@Lady 234

It's not because that i'm on nairaland that a kid should call me dumb.
Na your mama be dumb.


The doctrine of the virgin birth of Jesus is very different from the dogma of the immaculate conception.
Don't insult me, i'm respecting myself.


That's kind of silly b/cos you don't even know my age Lady, stay focused now cos there is no need to get overly emotional so calm down and take a deep breath wink

No need to get upset, there is a difference b/w calling someone dumb and saying that one is trying to play dumb, You spoke like you did not know what the Immaculate conception was,
What is immaculate conception.
When you knew very well what it was, and that is why I said you were trying really hard to play dumb! so making statements like this
Na your mama be dumb.
only reflects badly on you undecided

Anyway, please do breakdown these co called differences b/w the virgin birth and the immaculate conception grin
Religion / Re: Are There Human On Earth Before Adam? by Yisraylite(m): 3:37pm On Jan 16, 2010
@ Topic

Gen 1:2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of YAHAWAH was hovering over the face of the waters

Without form means without structure, Law and order gives every society form or structure

Void depending on its usage means without the Law or light of YAHAWAH


Psa 119:126 It is time for You to act, O YAHAWAH, For they have regarded Your law as void. 
.
Darkness(blackness): Yer(Jer) 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, And the heavens above be black, Because I have spoken. I have purposed and will not relent, Nor will I turn back from it

Psa 119:105 Your Law is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path

For the commandment is a lamp, And the law a light; Reproofs of instruction are the way of life

Adam was created by YAHAWAH as His new Light bearer in world that had gone dark(become Lawless). His Priest of Righteousness in a world that had now become void of light with its inhabitants living in darkness. It's kings and Rulers now lawless without the perfect Law of Love!

Remember it was from these people that Cain later took a wife from! This proves that there were other people on the earth when Adam and Eve were brought forth

Gen 4:14 Surely You have driven me out this day from the face of the ground; I shall be hidden from Your face; I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond on the earth, and it will happen [that] anyone who finds me will kill me

Who were these people whom Cain was referring to that would kill him if they found him? If Adam, Eve, Cain & Abel were the only ones one the Earth?

Gen 4:15 And YAHAWAH said to him, "Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold." And YAHAWAH set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him

Again who are these people? They sure aren't Adam, Eve or dead Abel!

Gen 4:16 Then Cain went out from the presence of YAHAWAH and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden. 


Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son—Enoch

Who is this wife Cain married? I heard ignorant Christians say Cain married his Sister. YAHAWAH does not permit incest, it is against His Laws, besides there is no record of Eve giving birth to any female children!

Lev 20:17 'If a man takes his sister, his father's daughter or his mother's daughter, and sees her unclothedness and she sees his unclothedness, it [is] a wicked thing. And they shall be cut off in the sight of their people. He has uncovered his sister's unclothedness. He shall bear his guilt

It was the Ruler of these lawless people that came up to deceive Adam & Eve in order to take the possession and Authority YAHAWAH had bestowed upon His Priest Adam

Please read further:


Eze 28:12 "Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, 'Thus says YAHAWAH: "You [were] the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty

Eze 28:13 You were in Eden, the garden of YAHAWAH; Every precious stone [was] your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes Was prepared for you on the day you were created

Eze 28:15 You [were] perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you.

I hope you got that! Ruler of Tyre was in AYAH'S garden not Satan!

Eze 27:2 "Now, son of man, take up a lamentation for Tyre, 

Eze 27:3 and say to Tyre, 'You who are situated at the entrance of the sea, merchant of the peoples on many coastlands, thus says YAHAWAH: "O Tyre, you have said, 'I [am] perfect in beauty.' 

Eze 27:4 Your borders [are] in the midst of the seas. Your builders have perfected your beauty

Eze 27:11 Men of Arvad with your army [were] on your walls [all] around, And the men of Gammad were in your towers; They hung their shields on your walls [all] around; They made your beauty perfect

Eze 27:23 Haran, Canneh, Eden, the merchants of Sheba, Assyria, [and] Chilmad [were] your merchants.

Eze 28:2 "Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre, 'Thus says the YAHAWAH: "Because your heart [is] lifted up, And you say, 'I [am] a god, I sit [in] the seat of gods, In the midst of the seas,' Yet you [are] a man, and not a god, Though you set your heart as the heart of a god

Is Satan a Man?  Every scripture here refers to the King or prince of Tyre who was a man(Eze 28:2)

It was the ruler of Tyre adorned with all his royal splendor,jewelled graments,procession of cymbals,trumpets,pomp and pagentry who came up to deceive Adam and Eve, This man and deceiver said 'I [am] a god, I sit [in] the seat of gods, and promised Eve the same, to become like a god

Any one watched the movie 300, where the ruler is referred to as the God king

Gen 3:5 For YAHAWAH  knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like a God, knowing good and evil.

Let me stop for now!
Religion / Re: Hanukkah( The Jewish Festival Of Lights) Starts On 12th December by Yisraylite(m): 3:16pm On Jan 16, 2010
@Lady 234

What is immaculate conception.
How can you make such conclusions that i'm a Christian who has adopted a particular Jewish tradition.


Very simple,
How is that my business. I am not under any Jewish rabbi, i'm under Jesus.

Since you are under Jesus, please do tell how your Jesus was conceived undecided after you explain that ,I'll tell you the meaning of Immaculate conception since you trying really hard to play dumb undecided
Religion / Re: Why Has Mankind Chosen To Hate And Reject The Creator's Instructions Of Love! by Yisraylite(m): 3:11pm On Jan 16, 2010
@@jangubali a.k.a Jungle baby

Both of you are not worth all that attention so i am signing out

grin grin LMAO! you sure posted a lot of crap for someone who you claim wasn't worth the attention, mr celestial church of christ cheesy grin grin why don;t you go crawl back under your Jesus rock and fade away into oblivion, busted lying a.s.s. undercover christian shocked wink cos I crush little haterz just like you just like I crush roaches undecided
Religion / Re: Hanukkah( The Jewish Festival Of Lights) Starts On 12th December by Yisraylite(m): 2:59pm On Jan 16, 2010
@Lady 234

You are simply a Christian  who has adopted a particular Jewish tradition undecided and a tradition is different from a dogma or doctrine, so let me ask again" Do you believe in the immaculate conception or not?"  and no evading the question this time by trying to ask another question rather than setting the records straight  grin
Religion / Re: Hanukkah( The Jewish Festival Of Lights) Starts On 12th December by Yisraylite(m): 8:44pm On Jan 15, 2010
@ Lady 234
How is that my business. I am not under any Jewish rabbi, i'm under Jesus.

You ain't fooling anyone but yourself undecided you are a Roman catholic,whether you want to believe it or not, b/cos you adhere to the doctrine & dogma of the Vatican, I bet you believe in the immaculate conception, that is Catholic by nature undecided
Religion / Re: Jesus Not Entirely Good by Yisraylite(m): 8:33pm On Jan 15, 2010
@ Topic

Any religion that teaches you to hate your parents or brothers & Sisters ain't good for you  angry

Case in point"

Luk 14:26 "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple

This mythical Jesus was worse than good for advocating you hate your family sad sad sad

Then this confusionist says this:

Luk 6:27 "But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,


Love your enemies ,but hate your family, Wow! what kind of spiritual drugs was this son of Zeus using?
Religion / Re: How OFFICIAL Christianity Stole Christ by Yisraylite(m): 3:31am On Jan 10, 2010
@ Sarmy
I do not have a closed mind regarding those claims, even the ones made by Official Christianity. However, I am more concerned about the distortion of the true message, in it there is life eternal. "He came so we can be FREE indeed" SALVATION of soul.

Even if those stories pre-dated that of Jesus, his message of redemption is far more valuable, Jesus Christ is the Word of God personified.

Bro, you're really a good guy  smiley and I sense a spirit of humility and wisdom within you from the statements you've made thus far, I'm getting ready for an out of town trip,but YHWH willing when I get back we should talk some more, May the peace of the All Mighty Creator be upon you and guide you till we meet again! smiley

Salamah!
Religion / Re: How OFFICIAL Christianity Stole Christ by Yisraylite(m): 11:55pm On Jan 09, 2010
@ sarmy

In the spirit of a good conversation Bro,

if they all claim to be Jesus Christ, but I know the true one by his message.


The thing is that the story of most of these so called rival saviors predated the story of Jesus with almost the exact same claims.

It is argued that, as the story of the incarnation of the Christians' Savior is of more recent date than those of the oriental and the ancient religions ( as is conceded by Christians themselves), the origin of the former is thus indicated and foreshadowed as being an outgrowth from, if not a plagiarism upon the latter - a borrowed copy, of which the pagan stories furnish the original.  Here, then, we observe a rivalship of claims, as to which of the remarkable personages who have figured in the world of Saviors, Messiahs, and Sons of God, in different ages and different countries, can be considered the true Savior and "sent of God;" or whether all should be, or the claims of all rejected.


Let's take a look at the story of Horus whose myth existed before chritianity or predated it by about 2000 years if I remember correctly

A List of the similarities between Horus and Jesus:

>Horus and the Father are one.
>Jesus says, "I and My Father are one.  He that
seeth Me, seeth Him that sent Me."

>Horus is the Father seen in the Son.
>Jesus claims to be the Son in whom the Father is revealed.

>Horus was the light of the world, the light that is represented by the symbolical eye, the sign of salvation.
>Jesus is made to declare that He is the light of the world.

>Horus was the way, the truth, the life by name and in person.
>Jesus is made to assert that he is the way, the truth,
and the life.

>Horus was the plant, the shoot, the natzar.
>Jesus is made to say: "I am the true vine."

>Horus says:  It is I who traverse the heaven; I go round the Sekhet-Arru (the Elysian Fields); Eternity has been assigned to me without end.  Lo!  I am heir of endless time and my attribute is eternity.
>Jesus says: " I am come down from Heaven.  For this isthe will of the Father that everyone who beholdeth the
Son and believeth in Him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."  (He, too, claims to be lord of eternity.)

>Horus says: " I open the Tuat that I may drive away the darkness."
>Jesus says: " I am come a light unto the world."

>Horus says:  I am equipped with thy words O Ra (the father in heaven) (ch.32) and repeat them to those who are deprived of breath.  (ch.38).  These were the words of the father in heaven.
>Jesus says: " The Father which sent me, he hath given
me a commandment, what I should say and what I should
speak.  Whatsoever  I speak, therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.  The word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me."

A comparative list of some pre-existing types to Christianity shows further how these types were brought on in the canonical Gospels and the Book of Revelation:

1. Horus baptized with water by Anup = Jesus
    Baptized with water by John.

2. Anup, the Baptizer = John the Baptist.

3. Aan, a name of the divine scribe = John the
    divine scribe.

4. Horus born in Annu, the place of bread = Jesus
    born in Bethlehem, the house of bread.

5. Horus the Good Shepherd with the crook upon his
    shoulders = Jesus the Good Shepherd with the lamb or
    kid upon his shoulder.

6. The Seven on board the boat with Horus = The
    seven fishers on board the boat with Jesus.

7. Horus as the Lamb = Jesus as the Lamb.

8. Horus as the Lion = Jesus as the Lion.

9. Horus identified with the Tat or Cross = Jesus
    identified with the Cross.

10. Horus of twelve years = Jesus of twelve years.

11. Horus made a man of thirty years in his baptism =
    Jesus made a man of thirty years in his baptism.

12. Horus the Krst = Jesus the Christ.

13. Horus the manifesting Son of God = Jesus the
    manifesting Son of God.

14. The trinity of Atum the Father, Horus the Son,
    and Ra the Holy Spirit = The trinity of the Father,
    Son and Holy Spirit.

15. The first Horus as a child of the Virgin, the
    second as the Son of Ra = Jesus as the Virgins child,
    the Christ as Son of the Father.

16. Horus the sower and Set the destroyer in the
    harvesting = Jesus the sower of the good seed and
    Satan the sower of tares.

17. Horus carried off by Set to the summit of Mount
    Hetep = Jesus spirited away by Satan into an
    exceedingly high mountain.

18. Set and Horus contending on the Mount = Jesus and
    Satan contending on the Mount.

19. The Star as the announcer of the child Horus =
    The Star in the East that indicated the birthplace of
    Jesus.

20. Hours the avenger = Jesus who brings the sword.

21. Horus as Iu-em-Hetep, who comes with peace =
    Jesus the bringer of peace.

22. Horus the afflicted one = Jesus the afflicted one.

23. Horus as the type of life eternal = Jesus the type of
        eternal life.

24. Horus as Iu-em-Hetep, the child teacher in the
    temple = The child Jesus as teacher in the temple.

25. The mummy bandage that was woven without seam
        =The vesture of Christ without a seam.

26. Twelve followers of Horus as Har-Khutti = Twelve
    followers of Jesus as the twelve disciples.

27. The revelation written down by Aan (Tehuti) the
    scribe of divine words = The revelation by John
    the divine.

28. The saluter Aani, who bears witness to the word
    of Ra and to the testimony of Horus = John who bears
    witness to the Word of God and the testimony of
    Jesus Christ.

29. The secret of the Mysteries revealed by Taht-Aan
    = The secret of the Mysteries made known by John.

30. Horus the Morning Star = Jesus the Morning Star.

31. Horus who gives the Morning Star to his followers
    = Jesus who gives the Morning Star to his followers.

32. The name of Ra on the head of the deceased = The
    name of the Father written on the forehead.

33. The Paradise of the Pole Star-Am-Khemen = The
    Holy City lighted by one luminary, that is neither the
    Sun nor the Moon = the Pole Star.

34. The Har-Seshu, or servants of Horus = The servants
    of Jesus Christ

So what do you think ?
Religion / Re: Why Has Mankind Chosen To Hate And Reject The Creator's Instructions Of Love! by Yisraylite(m): 11:25pm On Jan 09, 2010
@@jangubali a.k.a Jungle baby     cool cool

Now I know why you hate The Creator's Laws so much  grin

9 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.


Liar ! liar ! pants on fire grin you are a traitor to your own christianity  undecided Mr I don't believe in fairy tales, I told you I wasn't the one to be trifled with, now don't you fell like an a.s.s? undecided

Pro 6:16 These six things YAHAWAH hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: 


Pro 6:17 A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, 


Pro 6:18 A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, 


Pro 6:19 A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren

I told you not to throw stones in a glass house undecided

The adaptation of european style christianity to the african culture is exactly why i love cele

With your fake wanna be European a.s.s., stop the self hatred you are not a white Roman from Rome
quit trying to suck out the vatican's a.s.s, those people don't care a lick about you ,cos to them you're nothing but a Jungle bunny  grin grin

Now let's see if you still want to hurl insults with your busted a.s.s. undecided cool
Religion / Re: Why Has Mankind Chosen To Hate And Reject The Creator's Instructions Of Love! by Yisraylite(m): 11:04pm On Jan 09, 2010
@jangubali a.k.a Jungle baby  shocked shocked

I knew you were a fake and a fraud! lying a.s.s undercover Christian! undecided These are your very words
I worship none.Not dead ancestors, and definitely not a middle eastern, rampaging desert maniac of a god like your bloodthirsty yahawahala.That is the difference between the two of us, you have the need to worship something, i don't.
It is true what they say that the act of worshipping is meant only for brainless numbskulls who can't think for themselves and accept to face their life's responsibilities on their own.
Have fun.


YOU WORSHIP NONE! shocked shocked shocked with your lying a.s.s. Now let me blow your cover :

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The adaptation of european style christianity to the african culture is exactly why i love cele.With all it's excesses and dark sides,i don't think that i will ever worship in any other church as a permanent member.
Sad about the leadership problems,but please tell me which church as large as cele does not have dark sides.
BTW,their hymns are still the best anywhere in christiandom,bar none!

Wow!!! With you undercover lying a.s.s
But i just want to say one thing, keep your yahawahala to yourself,please.We are still finding it hard going dealing with islam and it's allah and the christian with their sandwich holy trinity god, we don't need a third.

Yisraylite delivers the final T.K.O Boom!!! your fake a.s.s is busted lying Christian, your even worse than your fairy tale Mathew who denied his Jesus 3 times Ha!ha! ha! LMAO!!

So who is the numbskull now mr Celestial Church of Christ undecided undecided undecided
It is true what they say that the act of worshipping is meant only for brainless numbskulls who can't think for themselves and accept to face their life's responsibilities on their own.

grin grin grin cool
Religion / Re: Why Has Mankind Chosen To Hate And Reject The Creator's Instructions Of Love! by Yisraylite(m): 10:21pm On Jan 09, 2010
@jangubali a.k.a Jungle baby  grin

Be the good little ignoramus that you are, dorn you dunce hat and go sit in the corner and take a well deserved a time out  shocked cool

What question, if  i may ask?You wrote so much junk trying to prove africans' connection with ancient israel that i did not bother reading your post.

The first book of the Law says this :

Gen 2:11 The name of the first [is] Pishon; it [is] the one which skirts the whole land of Havilah(SUDAN), where [there is] gold. 


Gen 2:12 And the gold of that land [is] good. Bdellium and the onyx stone [are] there. 


Gen 2:13 The name of the second river [is] Gihon; it [is] the one which goes around the whole land of Cush(ETHIOPIA)

The connection was already made b4 my time  simpleton! Last time I checked Sudan and Ethiopia were still in Africa shocked


Gen 10:6 The sons of Ham: Cush, Egypt, Put, and Canaan.

Psa 68:31 Envoys will come out of Egypt; Ethiopia will quickly stretch out her hands to YAHAWAH

Zep 3:10 From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia My worshipers, The daughter of My dispersed ones, Shall bring My offering

Isa 19:24 In that day Yisrayl will be one of three with Egypt and Assyria--a blessing in the midst of the land, 

Isa 19:25 whom YAHAWAH of Hosts shall bless, saying, "Blessed is Egypt My people, and Assyria the work of My hands, and Yisrayl My inheritance." 

Amo 9:7"[Are] you not like the people of Ethiopia to Me, O children of Yisrayl?" says YAHAWAH. "Did I not bring up Yisrayl from the land of Egypt, The Philistines from Caphtor, And the Syrians from Kir?

I guess in your LSD ladden and warped mind, I wrote the Book of the Law grin grin, your level of ignorance is just bordering on painful!! The connection has been established and cannot be broken by the likes of you, as I have said earlier it is time you crawled back into obscurity. If this was a soccer match and I was the referee, you would already have gotten a red card tongue shocked
Religion / Re: Why Has Mankind Chosen To Hate And Reject The Creator's Instructions Of Love! by Yisraylite(m): 9:43pm On Jan 09, 2010
@jangubali a.k.a Jungle baby     shocked shocked

Stay with me here, and don't go full retard on me. So I'll ask for the third time,  which of YHWH'S Law do you hate so much  is it the do not commit murder? or is it do not steal or is it do not commit adultery? or is it honor your Parents? which one  does this hater hate so much?
undecided undecided cheesy

Since you don't believe in anything Bighead grin why are you here in the Religion forum at least most people here believe in something
Religion / Re: Why Has Mankind Chosen To Hate And Reject The Creator's Instructions Of Love! by Yisraylite(m): 9:35pm On Jan 09, 2010
@jangle a.k.a Jungle baby  cheesy

But you are trying really hard to be one with all your jangle hyping that you are doing all over the forum.Admit it and shame the devil.
I must admit daftness is really a mental illness and you've a bad case of it Did you read this
EC 12:13   Here is the conclusion: Reverence YAHAWAH and obey HIS Commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.

(Not  Hebrew, Moslem, Christian or Jew, but all mankind period)

The Creator never created or gave any man any so called religion, but rather laws to live by, What's so funny is that where ever you currently live, you're living under some sort of governance or rule of law or country's legislation created by men,yet you seem to hate the laws of The Creator, you sound like a hypocrite to me, cos if you're in Naija right now , you're living under Yaradua's laws grin grin

hyping that you are doing all over the forum.Admit it and shame the devil
Damn!!!! am I getting to you this bad shocked cheesy I guess I should stop the posting b/cos Jungle baby says so!! Ha Ha Ha!! LMAO!!!!


Keep on being clownish  grin cos you only do yourself a disservice undecided
I don't give a rat's behind whether LAO sent his son or grandson or himself as his own son . . . I don't believe in fairy tales.

Wow! what kind of drugs are you on? was this not your comment?
Say hello to AR for me and ask him when he is going to send down his daughter(if he has one) to die for all of us this time around, and she better be a fine babe .

You keep contradicting your foolish self with every comment, when you said die for us, you included yourself shocked at the next turn you don't give a rat's a.s.s, Wow! your mind is really unstable, so I suggest to strictly adhere to your prescription regimen. You even believe in a devil(admit it and shame the devil) so much for not believing in fairytales cheesy cheesy cheesy

I ain't the one to be trifled with silly child  undecided I'll simply crush you in an IQ test, cos the more  you make foolish comments, the more ammo I'll have to expose your folly!
Religion / Re: How OFFICIAL Christianity Stole Christ by Yisraylite(m): 8:56pm On Jan 09, 2010
@ Sarmy

In light of  your post,let me get some feed back from you on the following article

The World's Sixteen
Crucified Saviors
by Kersey Graves

Rival Claims of The Saviors
It is claimed by the disciples of Jesus Christ that he was of supernatural and divine origin; that, although he was woman conceived, he was deity begotten, and molded in human form, but comprehending in essence a full measure of the infinite Godhead, thus making him half human and half divine in his sublunary origin.

It is claimed that he was full and perfect God, and perfect man; and while he was God, he was also the son of God, and as such was sent down by the father to save the fallen and guilty world; and that thus his mission pertained to the whole human race; and his inspired seers are made to declare that ultimately every nation, tongue, kindred, and people under heaven will acknowledge allegiance to his government, and concede his right to reign and rule the world; that "every knee must bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

But we do not find that this prophecy has ever been or is likely to be fulfilled.  We do not observe that this claim to the infinite deityship of Jesus Christ has been  or is likely to be universally conceded.  On the contrary, it is found that by a portion, and a large portion of the people of even those nations now called Christian, this claim has been steadily and unswervingly controverted, through the whole line of history, stretching  through the nearly two thousand years which have elapsed since his advent to earth.

Even some of those who are represented to have been personally acquainted with him - aye! some of his own brethren in the flesh, children in the same household, children of the same mother - had the temerity to question the tenableness of his claim to a divine emanation.  And when we extend our researches to other countries, we find his claim, so far from being conceded, is denied and contested by whole nations upon other grounds.  It is met and confronted by rival claims.

Upon this ground hundreds of millions of the established believers in divine revelation - hundreds of millions of believers in the divine character and origin of religion - reject the pretensions set up for Jesus Christ.  They admit both a God and a Savior, but do not accept Jesus of Nazareth as being either.  They admit a Messiah, but not 'the' Messiah; these nations contend that the title is misplaced which makes "the man Christ Jesus" the Savior of the world.  They claim to have been honored with the birth of the true Savior among them, and defend this claim upon the ground of priority of date.  They aver that the advents of their Messiahs were long prior to that of the Christians, and that this circumstance adjudicates for them a superiority of claim as to having had the true Messiah born upon their soil.

It is argued that, as the story of the incarnation of the Christians' Savior is of more recent date than those of the oriental and the ancient religions ( as is conceded by Christians themselves), the origin of the former is thus indicated and foreshadowed as being an outgrowth from, if not a plagiarism upon the latter - a borrowed copy, of which the pagan stories furnish the original.  Here, then, we observe a rivalship of claims, as to which of the remarkable personages who have figured in the world of Saviors, Messiahs, and Sons of God, in different ages and different countries, can be considered the true Savior and "sent of God;" or whether all should be, or the claims of all rejected.

For researchers in oriental history reveal the remarkable fact that stories of incarnate Gods answering to and resembling the miraculous character of Jesus Christ have been prevalent in most if not all the principal religious heathen nations of antiquity; and the accounts and narrations of some of these deific incarnations bear such a striking resemblance to that of the Christian Savior - not only in their general features, but in some cases the most minute details, from the legend of the immaculate conception to that of the crucifixion, and subsequent ascension into heaven - that one might almost be mistaken for another.

More than twenty claims of this kind - claims of being invested with divine honor (deified) - have come forward and presented themselves at the bar of the world, with their credentials, to contest the verdict of Christendom, in having proclaimed Jesus Christ, "the only son, and sent of God:" twenty Messiahs, Saviors, and Sons of God, according to history or tradition, have in past times, descended from heaven, and taken upon themselves the form of men, clothing themselves with human flesh, and furnishing incontestable evidence of a divine origin, by various miracles, marvelous works, and superlative virtues; and finally these twenty Jesus Christs (accepting their character of the name) laid the foundation for the salvation of the world, and ascended back to heaven:

     -Krishna of Hindostan
     -Buddha Sakia of India
     -Salivahana of Bermuda
     -Zulis, or Zhule, also Osiris and
            Orus, of Egypt
     -Odin of the Scandinavians
     -Crite of Chaldea
     -Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia
     -Baal and Taut, "the only
            Begotten of God," of Phoenicia
     -Indra of Tibet
     -Bali of Afghanistan
     -Jao of Nepal
     -Wittoba of the Bilingonese
     -Thammuz of Syria
     -Atys of Phrygia
     -Xamolxis of Thrace
     -Zoar of the Bonzes
     -Adad of Assyria
     -Deva Tat, and Sammonocadam of Siam
     -Alcides of Thebes
     -Mikado of the Sintoos
     -Beddru of Japan
     -Hesus of Eros, and Bremrillah,
             of the Druids
     -Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls
     -Cadmus of Greece
     -Hil and Feta of the Mandaites
     -Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico
     -Universal Monarch of the Sibyls
     -Ischy of the Island of Formosa
     -Divine Teacher of Plato
     -Holy One of Xaca
     -Fohi and Tien of China
     -Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece
     -Ixion and Quirnus of Rome
     -Prometheus of Caucasus
     - Mahomet, of Arabia
Religion / Re: FATHER OF TERRORIST : Adolf Hitler Is A Catholic Christian by Yisraylite(m): 8:18pm On Jan 09, 2010
@ AbuZ

Bro's how far? Isha Allahayam YAHAWAH, All shall be well, don't let the wicked kill your Joy!


Salamah!
Religion / Re: Why Has Mankind Chosen To Hate And Reject The Creator's Instructions Of Love! by Yisraylite(m): 8:12pm On Jan 09, 2010
@jangubali a.k.a Jungle baby  grin grin grin

But i just want to say one thing, keep your yahawahala to yourself,please.We are still finding it hard going dealing with islam and it's allah and the christian with their sandwich holy trinity god, we don't need a third.
Make i carry my brainless skull commot . . . Say hello to yahawahala for me and ask him when he is going to send down his daughter(if he has one) to die for all of us this time around, and she better be a fine babe

Now your comments are just bordering on daft and retarded, your pitiful attempt to force a label on me, just shows  the state of a bitter and hateful heart undecided I told you I ain't a jew yet you persist in your daftness undecided sorry  can't help you here! grin

YHWH never sent any son or future daughter to die for you, so who is the one deluded cheesy cheesy

What a rather poor & pitiful attempt to evade my question, so I ask again

I see you barking like a rabid dog, however why are you barking in English , is your heritage of English ancestry ? with your fake wanna be English a.s.s. Don't go throwing stones ina glass house,by the way what the heck do you believe in or stand for? , which of YHWH'S Law do you hate so much  is it the do not commit murder? or is it do not steal or is it do not commit adultery? which one  does this hater hate so much?   
grin grin grin grin


I guess you must worship your dead  ancestors grin grin grin grin, you right, carry your brainless skull commot !! cheesy cheesy cheesy
Religion / Re: Why Has Mankind Chosen To Hate And Reject The Creator's Instructions Of Love! by Yisraylite(m): 7:09pm On Jan 09, 2010
@tonyb

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  
Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.
 Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."  (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)



This is a clear case of offering humans as burnt offerings unto YAWAHA

Firstly, Deu 13 ends at vesre 18 not 19,

Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.

Definition of plunder: to plunder (third-person singular simple present plunders, present participle plundering, simple past and past participle plundered)

(transitive) To pillage, take or destroy all the goods of, by force (as in war); to raid, sack.
The mercenaries plundered the small town.

This is a clear case of offering humans as burnt offerings unto YAWAHA

Keyword here is goods not humans, so your insinuation of burning humans as sacrifice doesn't fly


Deu 13:13 'Corrupt men have gone out from among you and enticed the inhabitants of their city, saying, "Let us go and serve  gods" '--which you have not known

keyword here is corrupt men, they are the ones that bring destruction upon everyone else, just like how Naija is suffering shame right now b/cos of Mutallab

What would you do if you a had a daughter and a wicked man entices her with the aim of  corrupting her undecided
Religion / Re: Why Has Mankind Chosen To Hate And Reject The Creator's Instructions Of Love! by Yisraylite(m): 6:54pm On Jan 09, 2010
@ Krayola
Is the Hebrew alphabet, in your opinion, also of African origin?

The vast majority of alphabet systems have their roots from ancient Mesopotamia to Egypt and the Ethiopic Amharic, aramaic etc, hence the paleo - hebrew gets it's roots from this source however, the modern hebrew was created by Eliezer Ben Yehuda.

When Eliezer Ben Yehuda, the father of modern Hebrew,   was reviving Hebrew in the late 1800's and early 1900's, so that a nation could be established, he tried to avoid the Ashkenaz dialect as much as possible, preferring the Sephardic. "The Ashkenazic variety of Hebrew reminded the Council  too much of Yiddish, the despised language of the Exile in the opinion of most of the Council's  members, which in particular, contained the same set of vowel phonemes. Conversely, the Sephardic form resembled the sound pattern of Arabic more closely and Arabic was the sister language in the Semitic family which already existed in the locale."  The Revival of a Classical Tongue, Eliezer Ben Yehuda and the Modern Hebrew Language, Jack Fellman, Pg. 84. Ben Yehuda was greatly influenced by Arabic and Aramaic, in his modernizing Hebrew as a spoken language and not just liturgical. Though the Council and Ben Yehuda devised a system for the Hebrew, which more closely resembled the Biblical and Sephardic, what emerged was that of the Ashkenaz, as a result of the increasing amount of Eastern European immigrants. They were the ones to teach the children in the kibbutzim and that is what became the dominant language. The use of vav, is Ashkenaz and Yiddish

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=364465.msg5085863#msg5085863
Religion / Re: FATHER OF TERRORIST : Adolf Hitler Is A Catholic Christian by Yisraylite(m): 5:54pm On Jan 09, 2010
@ topic

Was Adolf Hitler half or quarter Jewish?
In: Urban Legends, Adolf Hitler   

 

To add to the answers below - I understand that Hitler made a point of destroying the building that would have held his father's birth certificate so the proof one way of the other was destroyed. (History Channel Documentary)
(Observations:

a. In the case of any illegitimate child whose mother refuses to name the father one would expect the entry in the Register of Births to be unrevealing and simply state 'Father: unknown'. In other words, it would have been uninformative in this respect.

b. It is true that the building(s) and the churchyard were destroyed in 1938 on Hitler's orders. He was presumably was nervous about some possible 'dark secret'. However, it's anyone's guess what it was. There has, for example, been speculation about a history of incest or insanity in his family. Perhaps, for that matter, the entry had been tampered with, for example, when his father changed his name in 1876 from from Schicklgruber to Hitler. The 'standard' story about a Jew named Frankenberger in Graz as the paternal grandfather has been discredited. However, it has allowed devotees of psychohistory a field day.

c. Presumably the records were open to public inspection between the time when Hitler first hit the headlines and the Anschluss in 1938. In other words, oponents had already had 14-15 years to look for spicy information. - Joncey).


Answer
No. The Hitler family was Roman Catholic.

Hitler's grandfather was not Jewish. The standard version of the story focuses on Hitler's paternal grandfather. Hitler's father's mother is said to have worked as a maid for a Jew and there were rumours that Hitler's father was actually the employer's biological child. No evidence for this has ever been found.

Although there is no evidence that Hitler had a Jewish grandfather, supposedly his grandmother refused to reveal the identity of her child's father to her death. There was a suspicion that it was her Jewish employer, but there is no evidence of this, and Hitler certainly never spoke of it.

Hitler certainly hated Jews, as one can read in his book, 'Mein Kampf'. Most Austrian children were raised with a fear, mistrust and hatred of Jews, going back to medieval times, supported by the Catholic Church, that Hitler was born into. Hitler was filled with hatred towards many groups and people, and was a very angry man, as is obvious if you listen to his speeches.


Answer
Often suggested, sometimes claimed, but no established historian buys into what is probably just an urban legend.

There have been rumours that Hitler was one-quarter Jewish and that his paternal grandmother, Maria Schicklgruber, had become pregnant while working as a servant in a the household of a Graz Jew called Franberger. During the 1920s, the implications of these rumours along with his known family history were politically explosive, especially for the proponent of a racist ideology. Opponents tried to prove that Hitler, the leader of the anti-Semitic Nazi Party, had Jewish or Czech ancestors. Although these rumours were never confirmed, for Hitler they were reason enough to conceal his origins.


Answer
Ian Kershaw, "Hitler , ", Vol. 1, pp. 7-9 dismisses the story as nonsense. At the time when Hitler's grandmother worked as a servant in Graz for a family supposedly called Frankenberger (the 1830s) Jews were completely banned from living in Graz (and the whole province of Steiermark - Styria).

What's more, according to Kershaw, study of directories of Graz and the like for the 1830s and 1840s doesn't reveal any family called Frankenberger in Graz at all.

In other words, it's an urban legend.

source:http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_Adolf_Hitler_half_or_quarter_Jewish
Religion / Re: Why Has Mankind Chosen To Hate And Reject The Creator's Instructions Of Love! by Yisraylite(m): 5:46pm On Jan 09, 2010
@ krayola

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your wikipedia reference seems, to me, to indicate that you have that backwards. That Yiddish is of Jewish origin, and not vise versa

good point  & noted, however this could viewed as subjective considering
The language originated in the Ashkenazi culture that developed from about the 10th century in the Rhineland

While the letter J from the word Jewish was first developed b/w the 14th and 16th century almost 4 centuries after the Yiddish language was developed

History
J was originally used as a swash character to end some Roman numerals in place of i. There was an emerging distinctive use in Middle High German.[3] Gian Giorgio Trissino (1478-1550) was the first to explicitly distinguish I and J as representing separate sounds, in his Ɛpistola del Trissino de le lettere nuωvamente aggiunte ne la lingua italiana ("Trissino's epistle about the letters recently added in the Italian language"wink of 1524[4]. Originally, both I and J represented /i/, /iː/, and /j/; but Romance languages developed new sounds (from former /j/ and /ɡ/) that came to be represented as I and J; therefore, English J (from French J) has a sound value quite different from /j/ (which represents the sound in the English word "yet"wink.

[edit] Use in English
In English J most commonly represents the affricate /dʒ/ (as in jet). In Old English the phoneme /dʒ/ was represented orthographically as cʒ.[5] Under the influence of Old French, which had a similar phoneme deriving from Latin /j/, English scribes began to use I (later J) to represent word-initial /dʒ/ of Old English (for example, iest, later jest), while using DG elsewhere (for example, hedge).[5] Later many other uses of I (later J) were added in loan words from French and other languages (e.g. adjoin, junta). The first English-language book to make a clear distinction between I and J was published in 1634.[5] In loanwords such as raj, "J" may be pronounced /ʒ/ by some, but not all, speakers. In some such cases, including raj, Taj Mahal and others, the regular /dʒ/ is actually closer to the original sound of the foreign language, making this realization a hyperforeignism.[6] Occasionally J represents other sounds, as in Hallelujah which is pronounced the same as "Halleluyah" (See the Hebrew yud for more details).

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