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Christianity EtcRe: I Hold A Deep Grudge Against Jesus by Yisraylite(m): 11:27pm On Mar 02, 2009
This fictitious fool didn't even exist, a man made doctrine and conception created by the Vatican and the counsel of Nicea in 325 AD angry

Battyman didn't even know the warmth or feel of a woman, always depicted half naked and walking around with men, No off spring whatso ever when Abba YHWH commanded man to go forth and multiply  wink

takin baths in streams with men under the false auspices of baptism cool
Christianity EtcThe First Britsh Slave Ship To Reach The Americas Was Called The Good Jesus! by Yisraylite(op): 5:49pm On Mar 02, 2009
Yes. Sir John Hawkins had the dubious distinction of becoming the first slave-ship captain to bring Africans to the Americas. Hawkins was a religious gentleman who insisted that his crew “serve God daily” and “love another”. His ship, ironically called “the good ship Jesus,” left the shores of his native England for Africa in October 1562. He arrived at Sierra Leone, and in a short time he had three hundred blacks in his possession. Hawkins claimed to have acquired them “partly by sword and partly by other means.”


The Good Ship Jesus | The Beginning of the British Slave Trade

The Good Ship Jesus

What has come to be referred to as "The Good Ship Jesus" was in fact the "Jesus of Lubeck," a 700-ton ship purchased by King Henry VIII from the Hanseatic League, a merchant alliance between the cities of Hamburg and Lubeck in Germany. Twenty years after its purchase the ship, in disrepair, was leant to Sir John Hawkins by Queen Elizabeth.

Hawkins, a cousin of Sir Francis Drake, was granted permission from Queen Elizabeth for his first voyage in 1562. He was allowed to carry Africans to the Americas "with their own free consent" and he agreed to this condition. Hawkins had a reputation for being a religious man who required his crew to "serve God daily" and to love one another. Sir Francis Drake accompanied Hawkins on this voyage and subsequent others. Drake, was himself, devoutly religious. Services were held on board twice a day.

John Hawkins Coat of Arms
A bound slave adorns John Hawkins' coat of arms.
Off the coast of Africa, near Sierra Leone, Hawkins captured 300-500 slaves, mostly by plundering Portugese ships, but also through violence and subterfuge promising Africans free land and riches in the new world. He sold most of the slaves in what is now known as the Dominican Republic. He returned home with a profit and ships laden with ivory, hides, and sugar. Thus began the British slave trade.

On his return to England Queen Elizabeth, livid, assailed Hawkins charging that his endeavor, ", was detestable and would call down vengeance from heaven upon the undertakers." When Elizabeth became fully aware, however, of the profits to be made she joined in partnership with Hawkins and provided him with the "Jesus of Lubeck," a.k.a., "The Good Ship Jesus."

A later slaving expedition in 1567, consisting of five ships and the "Jesus of Lubeck," met with resistance from the Spaniards at St Juan d'Ulloa in Mexico. Since the slave trade was illegal Spanish colonists usually required a charade of force from British ships, after which they would buy slaves at a discount. This time, however, the Spanish attacked the British ships and the "Jesus of Lubeck," cumbersome and difficult to maneuver, was sunk and the crew slaughtered. Hawkins escaped with Drake on a smaller ship.

Hawkins, his piratic ambitions dashed, returned to England and remained there in the service of the Queen. He gained distinction for his pivotal role in defeating the Spanish Armada and was knighted in 1588.
Christianity EtcRe: These Are The Men Preparing The Way For The Anti Christ by Yisraylite(m): 8:23pm On Aug 27, 2008
@ Topic

I love being an Anti Christ grin its so much fun, If I ever get a hold of your non existent Jesus,I'll personally kick the snot right out of him,I shall beat his ass,while Abba YAHAWAH takes care of the rest of the eath's GODS

1Chron 16:26 for all the Gods (Elohim) of the people are demons: but YAHAWAH made the heavens.

Yer 10:11 thus you shall say to them: "The gods (elohim) that have not made the heavens and the
earth shall perish from the earth and from under these heavens."

Psa 95:3 For you O YAHAWAH, are our Almighty Heavenly Father, and a Great King above all gods(elohim).

Psa 96:4 For YAHAWAH is Great, and Greatly to be praised: He is to be Reverenced above all gods (elohim).

Psa 97:9 For You, O YAHAWAH are the Most High above all the earth: You are exalted above every god (el)

Zep 2:11 YAHAWAH will be awesome to them, For He will reduce to nothing all the gods of the earth; People shall worship Him, Each one from his place, Indeed all the shores of the nations


Salamah
Yisraylite grin
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Never Died by Yisraylite(m): 8:13pm On Aug 27, 2008
@ Topic
Again, Someone who never existed can't die  huh

A ghost can never impregnate a woman,It's against the law of nature and creation,The only way sanctioned by the Creator Abba YAHAWAH to bring forth children is through a man's sperm cell fertilizing a woman's egg.

So this mythological half -man half- God J-Zeus created by Constantine in 320 AD and the Catholic Church at the council of Nicea never walked this earth. I can gladly offer further proof from Torah

The World's Sixteen
Crucified Saviors
by Kersey Graves

Rival Claims of The Saviors
It is claimed by the disciples of Jesus Christ that he was of supernatural and divine origin; that, although he was woman conceived, he was deity begotten, and molded in human form, but comprehending in essence a full measure of the infinite Godhead, thus making him half human and half divine in his sublunary origin.

It is claimed that he was full and perfect God, and perfect man; and while he was God, he was also the son of God, and as such was sent down by the father to save the fallen and guilty world; and that thus his mission pertained to the whole human race; and his inspired seers are made to declare that ultimately every nation, tongue, kindred, and people under heaven will acknowledge allegiance to his government, and concede his right to reign and rule the world; that "every knee must bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

But we do not find that this prophecy has ever been or is likely to be fulfilled.  We do not observe that this claim to the infinite deityship of Jesus Christ has been  or is likely to be universally conceded.  On the contrary, it is found that by a portion, and a large portion of the people of even those nations now called Christian, this claim has been steadily and unswervingly controverted, through the whole line of history, stretching  through the nearly two thousand years which have elapsed since his advent to earth.

Even some of those who are represented to have been personally acquainted with him - aye! some of his own brethren in the flesh, children in the same household, children of the same mother - had the temerity to question the tenableness of his claim to a divine emanation.  And when we extend our researches to other countries, we find his claim, so far from being conceded, is denied and contested by whole nations upon other grounds.  It is met and confronted by rival claims.

Upon this ground hundreds of millions of the established believers in divine revelation - hundreds of millions of believers in the divine character and origin of religion - reject the pretensions set up for Jesus Christ.  They admit both a God and a Savior, but do not accept Jesus of Nazareth as being either.  They admit a Messiah, but not 'the' Messiah; these nations contend that the title is misplaced which makes "the man Christ Jesus" the Savior of the world.  They claim to have been honored with the birth of the true Savior among them, and defend this claim upon the ground of priority of date.  They aver that the advents of their Messiahs were long prior to that of the Christians, and that this circumstance adjudicates for them a superiority of claim as to having had the true Messiah born upon their soil.

It is argued that, as the story of the incarnation of the Christians' Savior is of more recent date than those of the oriental and the ancient religions ( as is conceded by Christians themselves), the origin of the former is thus indicated and foreshadowed as being an outgrowth from, if not a plagiarism upon the latter - a borrowed copy, of which the pagan stories furnish the original.  Here, then, we observe a rivalship of claims, as to which of the remarkable personages who have figured in the world of Saviors, Messiahs, and Sons of God, in different ages and different countries, can be considered the true Savior and "sent of God;" or whether all should be, or the claims of all rejected.

For researchers in oriental history reveal the remarkable fact that stories of incarnate Gods answering to and resembling the miraculous character of Jesus Christ have been prevalent in most if not all the principal religious heathen nations of antiquity; and the accounts and narrations of some of these deific incarnations bear such a striking resemblance to that of the Christian Savior - not only in their general features, but in some cases the most minute details, from the legend of the immaculate conception to that of the crucifixion, and subsequent ascension into heaven - that one might almost be mistaken for another.

More than twenty claims of this kind - claims of being invested with divine honor (deified) - have come forward and presented themselves at the bar of the world, with their credentials, to contest the verdict of Christendom, in having proclaimed Jesus Christ, "the only son, and sent of God:" twenty Messiahs, Saviors, and Sons of God, according to history or tradition, have in past times, descended from heaven, and taken upon themselves the form of men, clothing themselves with human flesh, and furnishing incontestable evidence of a divine origin, by various miracles, marvelous works, and superlative virtues; and finally these twenty Jesus Christs (accepting their character of the name) laid the foundation for the salvation of the world, and ascended back to heaven:

     -Krishna of Hindostan
     -Buddha Sakia of India
     -Salivahana of Bermuda
     -Zulis, or Zhule, also Osiris and
            Orus, of Egypt
     -Odin of the Scandinavians
     -Crite of Chaldea
     -Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia
     -Baal and Taut, "the only
            Begotten of God," of Phoenicia
     -Indra of Tibet
     -Bali of Afghanistan
     -Jao of Nepal
     -Wittoba of the Bilingonese
     -Thammuz of Syria
     -Atys of Phrygia
     -Xamolxis of Thrace
     -Zoar of the Bonzes
     -Adad of Assyria
     -Deva Tat, and Sammonocadam of Siam
     -Alcides of Thebes
     -Mikado of the Sintoos
     -Beddru of Japan
     -Hesus of Eros, and Bremrillah,
             of the Druids
     -Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls
     -Cadmus of Greece
     -Hil and Feta of the Mandaites
     -Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico
     -Universal Monarch of the Sibyls
     -Ischy of the Island of Formosa
     -Divine Teacher of Plato
     -Holy One of Xaca
     -Fohi and Tien of China
     -Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece
     -Ixion and Quirnus of Rome
     -Prometheus of Caucasus
     -Mohammed, or Mahomet, of Arabia

Salamah
Yisraylite   smiley
Christianity EtcRe: These Are The Men Preparing The Way For The Anti Christ by Yisraylite(m): 5:39pm On Aug 27, 2008
@KunleOshob

I now know your case is beyond redemption. But there is nothing impossible in Christ Jesus. Shalom
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Pro 10:13 In the lips of him that hath understanding wisdom is found: but a rod [is] for the back of him that is void of understanding.

Pro 11:12 He that is void of wisdom despiseth his neighbour: but a man of understanding holdeth his peace.


I'm giving you the whipping that  your Daddy neglected to give you as a child grin

Salamah
Yisraylite smiley
Christianity EtcRe: These Are The Men Preparing The Way For The Anti Christ by Yisraylite(m): 5:27pm On Aug 27, 2008
@ KunleOshob
Again utter rubbish grin

I'm your anti-christ because I'm against your Horus, oh I mean your Jesus christ a.k.a Ea -Zeus Kristos(zeus the healer) grin grin grin

@ Mazajie
Another deranged goat that is full of spite and is spewing utter rubbish.
Men ! Now that's very funny grin grin grin, Maz where you been Bro! , Stay safe Bros, and we'll link up soon smiley

Salamah
Yisraylite smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by Yisraylite(m): 5:22pm On Aug 27, 2008
@ KunleOshob

Pro 7:7 And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding (KunleOshob)

cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Yep ! Doomsday Prophet and I do have dreadlocks grin, I love this one very much ! Thanks again grin smiley

Yisraylite smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Hell:a Bundle Of Lies. by Yisraylite(m): 5:12pm On Aug 27, 2008
@  topic

See my previous post on hell

As for the fire Please read:

[b]Isa 66:23   And it shall come to pass that from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another, all flesh shall come to worship before Me," says YAHAWAH.


Eze 39:6 "And I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in security in the coastlands. Then they shall know that I am YAHAWAH.

Isa 66:16   For by fire and by His sword YAHAWAH will judge all flesh; and the slain of YAHAWAH shall be many.

Isa 66:17   "Those who sanctify themselves and purify themselves,to go to the gardens after a god(el) in the midst,eating swine's flesh and the abomination and the mouse,
Shall be consumed together," says YAHAWAH.

Isa 66:18   "For I know their works and their thoughts. It shall be that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come and see My glory.

Isa 66:19   "I will set a sign among them; and those among them who escape I will send to the nations: to Tarshish and Pul and Lud, who draw the bow, and Tubal and Yavan, to the coastlands afar off who have not heard My fame nor seen My glory. And they shall declare My glory among the Gentiles.

Isa 66:20   "Then they shall bring all your brethren for an offering to YAHAWAH out of all nations, on horses and in chariots and in litters, on mules and on camels, to My holy mountain Jerusalem," says YAHAWAH, "as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of YAHAWAH.

Isa 66:21   "And I will also take some of them for priests and Levites," says YAHAWAH.

Isa 66:22   "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make shall remain before Me," says YAHAWAH,"So shall your descendants and your name remain.

Isa 66:23   And it shall come to pass that from one New Moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, all flesh shall come to worship before Me," says YAHAWAH.

Isa 66:24   "And they shall go forth and look upon the corpses of the men who have transgressed against Me. For their worm does not die, and their fire is not quenched. They shall be an abhorrence to all flesh."


Isa 24:4   The earth mourns and fades away, the world languishes and fades away;The haughty people of the earth languish.

Isa 24:5   The earth is also defiled under its inhabitants, because they have transgressed the laws,changed the ordinance,broken the everlasting covenant.

Isa 24:6   Therefore the curse has devoured the earth, and those who dwell in it are desolate. Therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men are left.[/b]

Salamah
Yisraylite smiley
Christianity EtcRe: These Are The Men Preparing The Way For The Anti Christ by Yisraylite(m): 5:03pm On Aug 27, 2008
@ Topic

Look no further cos I'm the resident anti-christ here in Nairaland,  I'm against your false Machiyach,


Candid Confessions of the Anglican Church!

1,"We have made the change from the seventh day to the first day, from Saturday to Sunday, on the authority of one holy Catholic Church." Bishop Seymour, Why We Keep Sunday, Article 12

Candid Confessions of the Church of Christ!

2,"There is no direct scriptural authority for designating the first day the Lord's day." Dr. D. H. Lucas, Christian Oracle, Jan. 23, 1890.
Candid Confessions of the Church of Christ!
3, "But we do not find any direct command from God, or instruction from the risen Christ, or admonition from the early apostles, that the first day is to be substituted for the seventh day Sabbath." "Let us be clear on this point. Though to the Christian 'that day, the first day of the week' is the most memorable of all days ,  there is no command or warrant in the New Testament for observing it as a holy day." "The Roman Church selected the first day of the week in honour of the resurrection of Christ. , " Bible Standard, May, 1916, Auckland, New Zealand.

Candid Confessions of the Baptist Church!

4, "We Believe that the law of God is the eternal and imperishable rule of His moral government." Baptist Church Manual

Candid Confessions of the Baptist Church!
5 "The first four commandments set forth man's obligations directly toward God, The fourth commandment sets forth God's claim on man's time and thought, Not one of the Ten Words (the 10 Commandments) is of merely racial significance, The Sabbath was established originally (long before Moses) in no special connection with the Hebrews, but as an institution for all mankind, in commemoration of God's rest after six days of creation. It was designed for all the descendants of Adam." Adult Quarterly, Southern Baptist Convention series, Aug. 15, 1937

Candid Confessions of the Lutheran Church!

6, "I wonder exceedingly how it came to be imputed to me that I should reject the law of Ten Commandments , Whosoever abrogates the law must of necessity abrogate sin also." Martin Luther, Spiritual Antichrist, pages 71, 72

Candid Confessions of the Lutheran Church!

7, e observance of the Lord's Day (Sunday) is founded not on any command of God, but on the authority of the Church." Augsburg Confession of Faith.

Candid Confessions of the Methodist Church!

8 "This 'handwriting of ordinances' our Lord did blot out, take away, and nail to His cross. (Colossians 2;14). But the moral law contained in the Ten Commandments, and enforced by the prophets, He did not take away the moral law, (the Ten Commandments), stands on an entirely different foundation from the ceremonial or ritual law, Every part of this law must remain in force upon all mankind and in all ages." John Wesley, Sermons on Several Occasions, 2 vol, ed., Vol. 1, pages 221, 222

Candid Confessions of the Methodist Church!

9, "The Sabbath was made for MAN; not for the Hebrews, but for all men." E.O. Haven, Pillars of Truth, Page 88.

Candid Confessions of Presbyterian Church!

10, "The Sabbath is part of the Decalogue - The Ten commandments. This alone forever settles the question as to the perpetuity of the institution, Until therefore it can be shown that the whole moral law has been repealed, the Sabbath will stand,  The teaching of Christ confirms the perpetuity of the Sabbath." T.C. Blake, D. D., Theology Condensed, Pages 474, 475.

11, "The Christian Sabbath (Sunday) is not in the Scriptures, and was not by the primitive church called the Sabbath." Dwight's Theology, Vol. 14, p. 401.


Candid Confessions of the Catholic Church!


12,"From this same Catholic Church you have accepted your Sunday, and that Sunday, as the Lord's day, she had handed down as a tradition; and the entire Protestant world has accepted it as tradition, for you have not an iota of Scripture to establish it. Therefore that which you have accepted as your rule of faith, inadequate as it of course it is, as well as your Sunday, you have accepted on the authority of the Roman Catholic Church." D. B. Ray, The Papal Controversy, 1892, page 179

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A List of the similarities between Horus and Jesus:

>Horus and the Father are one.
>Jesus says, "I and My Father are one.  He that
seeth Me, seeth Him that sent Me."

>Horus is the Father seen in the Son.
>Jesus claims to be the Son in whom the Father is revealed.

>Horus was the light of the world, the light that is represented by the symbolical eye, the sign of salvation.
>Jesus is made to declare that He is the light of the world.

>Horus was the way, the truth, the life by name and in person.
>Jesus is made to assert that he is the way, the truth,
and the life.

>Horus was the plant, the shoot, the natzar.
>Jesus is made to say: "I am the true vine."

>Horus says:  It is I who traverse the heaven; I go round the Sekhet-Arru (the Elysian Fields); Eternity has been assigned to me without end.  Lo!  I am heir of endless time and my attribute is eternity.
>Jesus says: " I am come down from Heaven.  For this is
the will of the Father that everyone who beholdeth the
Son and believeth in Him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."  (He, too, claims to be lord of eternity.)

>Horus says: " I open the Tuat that I may drive away the darkness."
>Jesus says: " I am come a light unto the world."

>Horus says:  I am equipped with thy words O Ra (the father in heaven) (ch.32) and repeat them to those who are deprived of breath.  (ch.38).  These were the words of the father in heaven.
>Jesus says: " The Father which sent me, he hath given
me a commandment, what I should say and what I should
speak.  Whatsoever  I speak, therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.  The word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me."

A comparative list of some pre-existing types to Christianity shows further how these types were brought on in the canonical Gospels and the Book of Revelation:

1. Horus baptized with water by Anup = Jesus
   Baptized with water by John.

2. Anup, the Baptizer = John the Baptist.

3. Aan, a name of the divine scribe = John the
   divine scribe.

4. Horus born in Annu, the place of bread = Jesus
   born in Bethlehem, the house of bread.

5. Horus the Good Shepherd with the crook upon his
   shoulders = Jesus the Good Shepherd with the lamb or
   kid upon his shoulder.

6. The Seven on board the boat with Horus = The
   seven fishers on board the boat with Jesus.

7. Horus as the Lamb = Jesus as the Lamb.

8. Horus as the Lion = Jesus as the Lion.

9. Horus identified with the Tat or Cross = Jesus
   identified with the Cross.

10. Horus of twelve years = Jesus of twelve years.

11. Horus made a man of thirty years in his baptism =
   Jesus made a man of thirty years in his baptism.

12. Horus the Krst = Jesus the Christ.

13. Horus the manifesting Son of God = Jesus the
   manifesting Son of God.

14. The trinity of Atum the Father, Horus the Son,
   and Ra the Holy Spirit = The trinity of the Father,
   Son and Holy Spirit.

15. The first Horus as a child of the Virgin, the
   second as the Son of Ra = Jesus as the Virgins child,
   the Christ as Son of the Father.

16. Horus the sower and Set the destroyer in the
   harvesting = Jesus the sower of the good seed and
   Satan the sower of tares.

17. Horus carried off by Set to the summit of Mount
   Hetep = Jesus spirited away by Satan into an
   exceedingly high mountain.

18. Set and Horus contending on the Mount = Jesus and
   Satan contending on the Mount.

19. The Star as the announcer of the child Horus =
   The Star in the East that indicated the birthplace of
   Jesus.

20. Hours the avenger = Jesus who brings the sword.

21. Horus as Iu-em-Hetep, who comes with peace =
   Jesus the bringer of peace.

22. Horus the afflicted one = Jesus the afflicted one.

23. Horus as the type of life eternal = Jesus the type of
       eternal life.

24. Horus as Iu-em-Hetep, the child teacher in the
   temple = The child Jesus as teacher in the temple.

25. The mummy bandage that was woven without seam
       =The vesture of Christ without a seam.

26. Twelve followers of Horus as Har-Khutti = Twelve
   followers of Jesus as the twelve disciples.

27. The revelation written down by Aan (Tehuti) the
   scribe of divine words = The revelation by John
   the divine.

28. The saluter Aani, who bears witness to the word
   of Ra and to the testimony of Horus = John who bears
   witness to the Word of God and the testimony of
   Jesus Christ.

29. The secret of the Mysteries revealed by Taht-Aan
   = The secret of the Mysteries made known by John.

30. Horus the Morning Star = Jesus the Morning Star.

31. Horus who gives the Morning Star to his followers
   = Jesus who gives the Morning Star to his followers.

32. The name of Ra on the head of the deceased = The
   name of the Father written on the forehead.

33. The Paradise of the Pole Star-Am-Khemen = The
   Holy City lighted by one luminary, that is neither the
   Sun nor the Moon = the Pole Star.

34. The Har-Seshu, or servants of Horus = The servants
   of Jesus Christ.

Salamah
Yisraylite
Christianity EtcRe: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by Yisraylite(m): 4:52pm On Aug 27, 2008
@ Gami

Go answer my questions if you can Confucius!! cheesy

Pro 11:12 He that is void of wisdom despiseth his neighbour: but a man of understanding holdeth his peace

Psa 119:126 It is time for You YAHAWAH to work: for they have made void Your  law. 

Pro 7:7 And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding (KunleOshob)

Deu 32:28 For they are a nation void of counsel, neither is there any understanding in them.




I wonder from what circus you two clowns escaped from. I stand alone here in Nairaland and none of you jokers can refute Abba YAHAWAH'S LAWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So just make like the  magicians that you both are and disappear!!! poof!! be gone grin grin grin grin

Yisraylite grin
Christianity EtcRe: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by Yisraylite(m): 4:35pm On Aug 27, 2008
@KunleOshob

Ha ha ha ha Lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! grin grin grin grin

At least you've got my Name and  Abba YAHAWAH's Name right

Thanks for all the compliments, It confirms that at least somethings that have been said have cut to your core and have been embeded in your psyche  grin grin

Cheers!! By the way I'm way worse than any muslim smiley

Salamah
Yisraylite  smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by Yisraylite(m): 3:52pm On Aug 27, 2008
@ KunleOshob

Men! such a pest, Learn something or go away already!!!

Yer 5:22   Do you not fear Me?' says YAHAWAH. 'Will you not tremble at My presence, Who have placed the sand as the bound of the sea,By a perpetual decree, that it cannot pass beyond it?And though its waves toss to and fro,Yet they cannot prevail; Though they roar, yet they cannot pass over it.

Isa 42:8 I am YAHAWAH, that is My NAME; And My glory I will not give to another, Nor My praise to carved images.

Isa 48:11 For My own sake, I will do it; For how should My Name be profaned? And I will not give My glory to another

Mal 2:2 If you will not hear, And if you will not take it to heart, To give glory to My Name," Says YAHAWAH of hosts, "I will send a curse upon you, And I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have cursed them already, because you do not take it to heart.

Deu 32:39 'Now see that I, even I , am He, And there is no God (EL) with  Me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; Nor is there any who can deliver from My hand.

How can you give glory to a FATHER that you don't know? Remember you got upset because you thought I was guessing your name  cheesy 
@Gamine
don't mind him o'jare

@Mr Israel
My name is not Adekunle so stop guessing!
Ah ha!  grin  So how do you think Abba feels about His Divine Name. Again you prove your ignorance of Abba YAHAWAH'S Word, silly child smiley


As for your God OLUORUN a.k.a OLODUMARE ,this is his fate for this is What Abba has decreed for all the Gods of the Earth

1 Chron 16:26 for all the Gods (Elohim) of the people are demons: but YAHAWAH made the heavens.

Yer 10:11 thus you shall say to them: "The gods (elohim) that have not made the heavens and the
earth shall perish from the earth and from under these heavens."

Psa 95:3 For you O YAHAWAH, are our Almighty Heavenly Father, and a Great King above all gods(elohim).

Psa 96:4 For YAHAWAH is Great, and Greatly to be praised: He is to be Reverenced above all gods (elohim).

Psa 97:9 For You, O YAHAWAH are the Most High above all the earth: You are exalted above every god (el)

Zep 2:11 YHWH will be awesome to them, For He will reduce to nothing all the gods of the earth; People shall worship Him, Each one from his place, Indeed all the shores of the nations


Salamah
Yisraylite smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Biblically Right To Have Tattoo On The Body? by Yisraylite(m): 3:37pm On Aug 27, 2008
@Gamine

Gamine:
Yisraylite

Dont bother trying to understand stuff your mind is closed to.

like HOWhuh

undecided undecided
Ha ha  ha !! Closed to. I used believe this christianity garbage over 15 years ago, Thank Abba He opened my eyes and brought me out of it.

As your James calls it The law of Liberty, Yes it is the Law of Abba that liberated me from all that trash and contradiction  smiley so keep thinking that the law is here to keep you in bondage, as for me I'm free as a bird grin

Rather than deviate from the question by making me your focus, Please explain to me these contradictions in your assertion that your paul made stating that Christ is the end of the law? when did your christ tell Paul  to go against his words" I HAVE NOT COME TO DESTROY THE LAW"


Salamah
Yisraylite  smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by Yisraylite(m): 3:11pm On Aug 27, 2008
@ Gamine

Wow!! I'm shocked that you agree with this funny looney smiley. This is what I said to your friend KunleOshob from the start

@Adekunle Oshob

Please don't bear your ignorance of YAHAWAH'S Law out in public like this,because you only do yourself a disservice

Must be your guilty conscience speaking, you better go find that young girl whose virginity you stole and marry her sharp! sharp! or you are doomed 
Again here it is

Deu 22:28   "If a man finds a young woman who is a virgin, who is not betrothed, and he seizes her and lies with her, and they are found out,

Deu 22:29   "then the man who lay with her shall give to the young woman's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife because he has humbled her; he shall not be permitted to divorce her all his days.
I have maintained that posture from the start of this topic.

Salamah
Yisraylite  smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Biblically Right To Have Tattoo On The Body? by Yisraylite(m): 3:04pm On Aug 27, 2008
@ Gamine

This is why I call your new testament pure confusion(mystery Babylon wine of fornication). You quote this"Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.
    --Romans 10:4 (NIV)

Yet your mythological Christ says this:

Mat 5:17   "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.

Mat 5:18   "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

Mat 5:19   "Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven

And his mythological Brother James says this"

Jam 2:10   For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.

Jam 2:11   For He who said, "Do not commit adultery,"[fn2] also said, "Do not murder."[fn3] Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

Do You really see how confused you and your christianity are?

1Jo 3:4   Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Is your Christ still the end of the LAW ? WHEN the creator  says It is the whole duty of man to keep His laws. So which one is it really? In spite of the contradictions in your false testament  try not to fool yourself

I almost forgot this one also from your book

Rev 22:14   Blessed are those who do His commandments,fn7 that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city

Do you follow the teaching of your book by doing His commandments?

Salamah
Yisraylite smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by Yisraylite(m): 2:46pm On Aug 27, 2008
@ topic

Gen 24:67   Then Yis'ahk brought her into his mother Sarah's tent; and he took Rebekah and she became his wife, and he loved her. So Yis'ahk was comforted after his mother's death.

The minute Yis'ahk took Rebekah's virginity she became his wife through this blood covenant. Now that's the real marriage. You are welcome to read the rest of Gen 24 for yourself.


Salamah
Yisraylite  smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Biblically Right To Have Tattoo On The Body? by Yisraylite(m): 2:37pm On Aug 27, 2008
@ Gamine


These were commands to the Levites, and as you can see by reading these Old Covenant commands, they speak very much against idolatry. It can be problematic when scripture is quoted out of context or without regard to other scripture, and this is one case where pointing to a single verse has created an inaccurate legalism.
This is the definition of SIN from your Zeus testament:

1Jo 3:4   Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

This is what the Law says again: Lev 19:28 You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I [am] YAHAWAH

Utter nonsense !  Quit trying to twist the words of Torah. These commands where for the Children of Yisrayl and all foreign people who dwelt with them,not just the levites only as you've tried to spin the facts. The chapter starts with this

Lev 19:1   AND YAHAWAH spoke to Mosheh, saying,
Lev 19:2   "Speak to all the congregation of the children of Yisrayl, and say to them: 'You shall be holy, for I YAHAWAH your FATHER am Holy


So much for your statement "these were commands to the levites"

Don't try to justify your stiffneckedness, you are free to do whatever you want, you can even turn your whole body into a living tattoo bill board, that's your cup of tea


One LAW for mankind !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/color][color=#990000]

Exd 12:49 One law shall be for the native-born and for the stranger who dwells among you."

Num 15:16 One law and one custom shall be for you and for the stranger who dwells with you.

Num 15:29 You shall have one law for him who sins unintentionally, for him who is native-born
among the children of Yisrayl and for the stranger who dwells among them.

Ecc 12:13    Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Reverence YAHAWAH and
keep HIS INSTRUCTION, for this is the whole duty of man.



Salamah
Yisraylite  smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by Yisraylite(m): 2:08pm On Aug 27, 2008
@KunleOshob

KunleOshob:
Besides i really don't care who the real descendants of the Israelites are? How does that better my life or assure me of salvation? One thing i know though, there is no impostor from west africa that can claim any genuine roots to the Israelites. What really matters to me is the true gospel of our Lord And Saviour JESUS CHRIST (SON OF YAWAWAH) whom he sent down to earth to reconcile us with him. One thing is certain, the gospel of Jesus Christ which is based on genuine love for Yawawah and for our fellow Men cannot be faulted. Who the really descendants of the Israelites is does not matter to me tongue
At least get The Creator's Name right, It's YAHAWAH not Yawawah

https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/ScreenHunter_01%20Aug.%2023%2008.14.jpg

As you can see the Paleo Show the Most Ancient Name of the Creator as YAHAWAH, while modern Hebrew(Yiddish) versions changes the Name of The Creator to Yahweh. A change brought about by Elieazr Ben Yehuda the father of the so called modern hebrew also known as Yiddish.

Well the ancient hebrews never spoke Yiddish a far eastern European langauge spoken by the Khazers(Southern Russian,Polish,Bulgaria,German, etc)

They spoke the original hebrew now called Paleo hebrew as recorded on ancient cuniforms. See below

https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/ScreenHunter_02%20Aug.%2023%2008.44.jpg

https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/ScreenHunter_03%20Aug.%2023%2008.45.jpg

https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/Yhwh%20ancient%20and%20modern.gif

Notice the tranformation from the original to the so called modern

The early alphabets did not have a letter “J”.  First, you have Proto-Canaanite script. From that descended the paleo-Arabic, paleo-Aramaic, paleo-Hebrew, and the paleo-Phoenician. The Archaic Greek,  descends from the Phoenician.  And the Latin,  descends from the Greek. In time it changed to one more upright and with a slight curve to the bottom, instead of a sharp angle, about 1000 BCE. The Greeks made the letter a single, vertical stroke about 600 BCE. They named the letter an Iota. It makes the same Y sound of Yod, as a consonant, but also makes an I sound, as in index. The Romans gave the “I”  its capital form about 114 CE. When “I” was the initial letter in a word, they began making an ornamental, descending stroke to the left. This began in the 1200’s and became popular in the 1500’s. Generally the initial sound of I was as a consonant. Eventually, the Letter J came to denote the Y sound and I the I sound. The letter J became different from the I, in 1630, in England.


With the development of the letter J and the European use of the letter V for Waw, the corrupted spelling of Iehowah, became Jehovah.

There are several accounts to when the first use of Jehovah began. “But in the Middle Ages certain Christian theologians (the first known is Raymond Martin in 1270), copying the voweled tetragrammaton in transliteration, spelled it out to read JeHoVaH.” (The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, 1905, Jehovah, Pg. 55)  “The pronunciation indicated by ‘Jehovah’ (J being pronounced as Y) has been traced as far back as Wessel (d. 1489), who used Johavah and Jehovah, and Petrus Galatinus, confessor of Leo X. (1513-21).” (The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, Yahweh, pg. 470)  In 1516, Pietro Columna Galatinus (1460-1540), Pope Leo 10th’s confessor, wrote a book titled, “De Arcanis Catholicae Veritatis (Concerning Secrets of Universal Truth). In his book, written in Latin, he introduces the spelling of Jehovah. “It was contested by other scholars as being against grammatical and historical propriety”. (Oxford English Dictionary, Jehovah. Encyclopedia Judaica, Galatinus.)

In Biblical Hebrew, Samaritan Hebrew Waw was a W/You. Greek did not have a V, neither did Akkadian, Arabic or Ethiopic, Waw is W. An old Persian syllabary, in cuneiform, has a wa and a wi, but no v's, yet later Persian did.

Get wisdom ,knowledge and overstanding ma brother so you don't perish for a lack of it

Hsa 4:6   My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.Because you have rejected knowledge,I also will reject you from being priest for Me;
Because you have forgotten the law of your FATHER,I also will forget your children.


Word to the Wise !!!!! smiley

Yisraylite
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Biblically Right To Have Tattoo On The Body? by Yisraylite(m): 1:48pm On Aug 27, 2008
@oloriooko

oloriooko:
@Yisraylite
It is evident that you practise Judaism, so please spare us of all these hebrew words.
Very funny grin

Are we still bound to obey every Old Testament rules?
It's quite typical for a brainwashed christian to respond as you've just done  grin You asked a question, I gave you the answer from the book of Leviticus, but instead of focusing on the anwser(Lev 19:28) you've chosen to tangle with me. You simply cannot win in an encounter with me even if you chosen to attack the messenger instead of the message. Be careful as not to step on this lion's tail!!

Please don't make an ass of yourself by making assumptions about me. Ask me instead and I'll be glad to answer. There's no such thing as Judaism in Torah, the letter J dosen't even exist in the hebrew alphabet. Abba YAHAWAH never gave mankind any religion(Christianity, Islam,Judaisim) This is what is written

Pro 6:23   For the commandment is a lamp, and the law a light; Reproofs of instruction(Torah) are the way of life,

Ecc 12:13   Here is the conclusion: Reverence YAHAWAH and obey HIS Commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. (Not just Hebrew, Moslem, Christian or Jew, but all mankind period!)

DID YOU GET THAT,THE WHOLE DUTY OF MAN IS TO OBEY ABBA YAHAWAH'S PERFECT  LAWS OF LOVE, PEACE AND UNITY

Yer 6:10 To whom shall I speak and give warning, That they may hear? Indeed their ear is uncircumcised, and they cannot give heed. Behold, the LAW of YAHAWAH is a reproach to them; They have no delight in it

Yer 2:8  The priests said not, Where is YAHAWAH? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after [things that] do not profit



It's sad that Christians scream HalleluYAH(Praise YAH) every sunday and don't even have a clue that they are speaking Hebrew,yet The Creator's Name annoys you? Does it hurt to hear the truth? if so then come out of your darkness Bro!!!

Wow!!!! Now if you still wanna laugh then laugh at you own ignorance


Salamah
Yisraylite smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by Yisraylite(m): 1:21pm On Aug 27, 2008
@KunleOshob

@yisraylite
I can see you have resoted to insults all in a desperate attempt to put your hallucinations across. I also deduced from your allusions that you assumed you are older than i am, that allusion i seriously doubt cuase i can't imagine why a mature man would resort to the kind of language and posture you have taken. Anyway i enjoyed your epistle (quite enlightening, even thoughit might not be accurate) But it still does not prove your previous hallucination of claiming to be a descendant of God's chosen people
Its obvious you can't respond with facts. Did you even read the post before blindly responding?


Shortly after World War I, Henry Ford, founder of the Ford Motor Company, assembled a staff of experts in Detroit to conduct research on the European Jews who had been entering America in large numbers since the 1880's. Ford provided the staff with several million dollars for this research, and in 1923 he published the results in a four-volume work titled "THE INTERNATIONAL JEW." It was Henry Ford's conclusion that very few of these people who called themselves "Jews" were descendants of the Bible Israelites.

I bet you missed that one cheesy Don't let your pride get in the way of knowledge youngster! smiley read the origin of your false region in Nigeria


The growth of the Church of Nigeria (Anglican Communion) since the end of the Slave Trade has been a very rapid one.
It is interesting to know that within two centuries, Christianity and indeed Anglicanism, which started like child's play in Badagry, and Abeokuta has spread like wild fire to all nooks and crannies of our country Nigeria.
Christianity came into Nigeria in the 15th century through the efforts of Augustinan and Capuchin monks from Portugal. However, it was not until 1842 that Henry Townsend of the Church Missionary Society sowed the seed of Anglicanism properly when he landed in Badagry from Freetown Sierra Leone.
After their ordination in England in 1842, the Revd. Henry Townsend and the Revd. Samuel Ajayi Crowther (a Yoruba ex-slave) returned to Abeokuta. With the untiring efforts of these evangelists, Nigerians began to believe in Jesus as the Lord and Saviour of the entire world. And so, on December 25, 1842 in Abeokuta, Nigerians were able to celebrate for the very first time, the glorious annunciation that the Saviour, who is Christ the Lord, was born.They gave glory to God Almighty, experiencing the peace and joy of the Lord; Anglicanism had been born in Nigeria.
In 1846 the Revd. Samuel Ajayi Crowther, the Revd. Henry Townsend, in company the Revd. Colmer and Mr. Phillips worked together to consolidate the CMS Yoruba Mission.

I guess these are your ancestors who handed you christianity grin grin grin grin

The Torah's african history has been established and starts from Genesis chapter 2, whereas your christianity was brought to you by the same people who once enslaved our people angry The Church of England.

Are you an English man genious ? or are you a Greco-Roman? You probably think I printed all those ancient maps that show West Africa was known as Lower Ethiopia grin "You can lead a donkey to the stream ,but you can't force it to drink"

I truely wonder who' s the one hallucinating  sad Very sad indeed !!!!  I'll call a spade a spade. You really are behaving like a silly child, A grown up would take heed to facts not the emotional rubbish you keep spewing in light of the facts that are in your face.

Again get my name out of your mouth,since you can not disprove me with factual evidence.

Yisraylite smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Biblically Right To Have Tattoo On The Body? by Yisraylite(m): 8:55am On Aug 27, 2008
Lev 19:28 You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I [am] YAHAWAH.

Since Christian Pastors teach that YAH'S Laws have been nailed to the cross, they shouldn't have any probelms with marking their skin with abominations smiley

Remember everyone is free to do or believe what they want, But this is what is written in Torah and Abba YAHAWAH's perfect  Laws cannot be changed by anyone.

Psa 19:7   The law of YAHAWH is perfect, converting the person;The testimony of YAHAWAH is sure, making wise the simple;

Psa 19:8   The statutes of YAHAWAH are right, rejoicing the heart; The commandment of YAHAWAH is pure, enlightening the eyes;


Word to da wise!!! cheesy

Salamah
Yisraylite
Christianity EtcRe: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by Yisraylite(m): 8:45am On Aug 27, 2008
@KunleOshob
KunleOshob:
@yisraylite
I can see you have gone to great length to trace your "family tree" just to justify you false claims of being Jew (or whatever you call your self) despite the fact that you have no traceable roots to the children of Israel, while even calling the present day israelites who can trace their geaneology to the ancient Jews impostors. Are you for real huh huh huh As far as the religious beliefs which you now practise is not the one passed down to you by your real ancestors (and not yout adopted ancestors) you are also an impostor tongue
[b]Your ignorance is painfully obvious. I guess in your world Moses was Charleston Heston sad. Silly child, the word Jew dosen't even exist in the Torah. The letter J is not in the hebrew alphabet, so who the hell is a Jew?. Don't let the white man's langauge make a complete fool of you. The letter J was one of the last letters added to the English langauge and was invented b/w the 14-16th century. Do your self a favor discuss a topic your fluent with,because when it comes to this I own it.

Was Abraham a Jew? by today's standard Ab-ra-ham(father of Ham which is a multitude of African nations) would have been born in Iraq not Russia, young stuff!. You've let these Europeans corrupt your thinking with geneology. What does geneology have to do with keeping Abba YAHAWAH'S LAW? Ab-ra-ham was a pagan who was from Urr of the Chaldees in Mesopotamia. Born to a father(terrah) who worshiped babylonian gods until he was called by YAHAWAH to come out of Babylon.

Gen 11:26 Now Terah lived seventy years, and begot Abram, Nahor, and Haran.

Yah(Jos) 24:2 And Yahshua said to all the people, "Thus says YAHAWAH the FATHER of Yisrayl: 'Your fathers, including Terah, the father of Abraham and the father of Nahor, dwelt on the other side of the River* in old times; and they served hinder gods



By your demented reasoning Abraham too was an imposter since genetically speaking he wasn't from Europe. Can you trace your family tree to Rome? to the Vatican? Since you brainnlessly follow the dogma of the mother church just to justify you false claims of being christian (or whatever you call your self) huh

You really aren't as smart as I initially gave you credit for
[/b]
Ecc 12:13   Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:

Reverence YAHAWAH and keep His commandments, For this is the whole duty of man
Which part of the above verse don't you understand?

despite the fact that you have no traceable roots to the children of Israel, while even calling the present day israelites who can trace their geaneology to the ancient Jews impostors.
Know what you're talking about before making utterly foolish & ignorant statements.

As for the Jews or Yiddish people, They are eastern Europeans who have perpetrated a world wide falsehood and deception by claiming to be YAHAWAH'S chosen people

https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/khazaria.gif

As you can see, the above map shows the original home land of these Jewish impostors,

the guy that wrote the book THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE  Arthur Koestler was a Jew who exposed the lies of his people(Jewish people or Kharzars) and was murdered in 1983 if I'm not mistaken, right outside his house in London for exposing the truth about these people who claim to be the chosen people

Most Jews today claim they are ashkenazi so check this out

Gen 10:1   NOW this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Yapheth. And sons were born to them after the flood.

Gen 10:2   The sons of Yapheth were Gomer, Magog, Madai, Yavan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.

Gen 10:3   The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath,[fn1] and Togarmah.

Gen 10:4   The sons of Yavan were Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.[fn2]

Gen 10:5   From these the coastland peoples of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations.

Today most  scholars will tell you that GOG or MAGOG  are the Russian people. These Europeans are the Gentiles not us Africans as they have falsely tried to proport us to be.

Since you want to flex like you are an authority on a subject you know absolutely nothing about, I shall proceed to school you on this issue that I live everyday.

Read ma little brother,because knowledege is power !!

Finally Available To ALL - Absolute Historical Proof : Jews are not Israelites!

Research Proves "Jews" are non-Israelite Asiatics!

DATELINE USA. (1977) -- In 1976 Random House published a book that should have hit the Christian Churches like a blockbuster, but instead they chose totally to ignore it. It dealt with the racial origin of the people in Communist and Christian countries who call themselves "Jews," and whom the Churches (and the Jews themselves) generally insist are "God's Chosen People," the Israelite descendants of Abraham. Since the late 1800's a small number of Bible Scholars, who were also students of History and Racial origins, have insisted the Church denominations were wrong; that instead of being Israelites, these Jews from Eastern Europe and Western Asia were descended from Mongolians and other Asiatic peoples who had adopted Judaism as their "religion" over 1,000 years ago and had become know as "Jews." These Bible scholars were ignored or condemned, and often called "cultists" or "anti-Semites."

Now, after many years of research, a well-known Jewish author, Arthur Koestler has published a 255 page book titled THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE in which he proves the same point; i.e. that these Eastern European "Jews" are neither Israelites nor "Semites," but are instead Khazars, Mongols, and Huns! Most major newspapers and magazines reviewed the book during 1976. Also, Random House, the publisher, advertised it extensively and began some of their ads with the following headline: WHAT IF MOST JEWS AREN'T REALLY SEMITES AT ALL? In addition, Random House quoted the following reviews:

"Mr. Koestler's excellent book, Is as readable as it is thought-provoking. Nothing could be more stimulating than the skill, elegance and erudition with which he marshals his facts and develops his theories, " Fitzroy Maclean, New York Times Book Review.

"You do not have to be Jewish to be interested,  Are today's Western Jews really ethnic, Semitic, Biblical Jews, or are most of them descendants of converted Khazars?, This compact, interesting book, examines tragic-ironic implications in [this question] for modern history, It should fascinate." --Edmund Fuller, Wall Street Journal

"Koestler marshals the evidence in a clear and convincing way. He tells a good story, pulling together materials from medieval Muslims and Jewish travelers, scholarly controversy and the mysterious lore of the Khazars." --Raymond Sokolov, Newsweek

Robert Kirsch of the Los Angeles Times stated in his lengthy review that 'Arthur Koestler publicizes with his customary skills a daring hypothesis: that THE KHAZAR JEWS MIGRATED TO POLAND AND BECAME THE FOREBEARS OF EASTERN EUROPEAN JEWRY, ' Then Kirsch quoted Prof. A. N. Poliak of Tel Aviv University, who stated that "The large majority of world Jewry is descended from the Jews of Khazaria." Then he again quoted Koestler in THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE, "If so, this would mean that their ancestors came not from the Jordan but from the Volga; not from Canaan but from the Caucasus, once believed to be the cradle of the Aryan race; and that GENETICALLY THEY ARE MORE RELATED TO THE HUN, UIGUR, AND MAGYAR TRIBES THAN TO THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND JACOB, " (emphasis added) We cannot stress enough how absolutely imperative it is for all Christian Americans to consider the startling proof in Arthur Koestler's book that today's Jews are not Israelites. The Jewish influence on American life has reached such a stage that no student of contemporary history can ignore it. Not only the news media are Jewish monopolies, but top positions in the US. government are largely filled by Eastern European Jews. The magazine and book publishing houses are in Jewish hands; and movies, television, and the other entertainment industries are dominated by Jews in all phases. America's government and most of her people's sources of information are controlled and directed by Jews. If these people were really "God's Chosen People," perhaps Americans would have little cause for concern -- BUT WHAT IF THEY ARE REALLY THE "HUNS" AND THEREFORE THE ANCIENT ENEMIES OF CHRISTENDOM? Since many Americans may not have an opportunity to read Koestler's book, we shall herewith submit our own index-style review.

THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE
(by Arthur Koestler, Random House)


THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE proves beyond doubt that modern Jews are not Biblical Israelites. Every church member in America should insist that his Pastor investigate these claims. Are our Jewish politicians, publishers, movie makers, and opinion molders God's "Chosen People"? Or are they Mongol and Hun infiltrators of Christendom?

Is The Jews' "Chosen People" Masquerade Finally Over?

Shortly after World War I, Henry Ford, founder of the Ford Motor Company, assembled a staff of experts in Detroit to conduct research on the European Jews who had been entering America in large numbers since the 1880's. Ford provided the staff with several million dollars for this research, and in 1923 he published the results in a four-volume work titled "THE INTERNATIONAL JEW." It was Henry Ford's conclusion that very few of these people who called themselves "Jews" were descendants of the Bible Israelites. Ford further proved that these Jews, using all sorts of crimes while under the cloak of being the Chosen People of the Bible, were rapidly taking economic and political control of America. In the religious field, Ford claimed THE JEWS HAD SECRETLY GAINED CONTROL OF MOST PROTESTANT SEMINARIES AND CHRISTIAN BOOK- PUBLISHING HOUSES and had been able to remove almost all criticism of Jews from Christian literature. In summing up his findings, Henry Ford stated, "The Jews are not the Chosen People, though practically the entire Church has succumbed to the propaganda which declares them to be so." Ford's book caused a furor for a few years but soon disappeared from colleges, universities, and public libraries and became unobtainable at any price. The Churches continued to teach "The Jews are God's Chosen People, Israel," and the (by then) Jewish-dominated news media began to refer to Jews always as Israelites. Anyone opposing the increasing Jewish control of the nations was immediately branded "anti-Semitic;" and Jewish dominated Seminaries taught new ministers to quote Genesis 12:1-3 and sternly warn their flocks that anyone speaking unfavorably of the Jews would be "cursed by God." Jewish control of American society, politics, and religions continued to increase.

In 1951 retired US. Military Intelligence Officer, Col. John Beaty, published a scholarly 265-page book IRON CURTAIN OVER AMERICA. In it Col. Beaty gave overwhelming evidence this strange Race of Eastern European "Jews" were actually Khazar and Mongol Asiatics and had no racial ancestory in Israel at all.

He then proved that by 1951 these "Jews" had a stranglehold on American politics, on Banking and Credit, on all sources of news, on the entertainment industry, on America's education system, and that they were the predominant race as judges, lawyers, doctors, and in organized crime. The Jewish news media refused to review the book, Jewish book dealers refused to handle it, Christian book stores ignored it, and only a few thousand copies were distributed. Most Americans never heard of IRON CURTAIN OVER AMERICA. Now, because of renewed interest, both THE INTERNATIONAL JEW (in an abridged edition) and IRON CURTAIN OVER AMERICA have been reprinted and are available. (See ordering information below). The latest, and perhaps the most succinct book on this subject, is ISRAEL'S 5 TRILLION DOLLAR SECRET by Col. Curtis B. Dall, former son-in-law of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and a personal acquaintance of many high officials in the US. Govern ment since the 1930's. Col. Dall lives and works in the Washington, D. C. area, and his book, published in 1977. Col. Dall proves again, from reliable sources, that the Jews are NOT Israelites. In fact, Col. Dall calls their masquerade as "Israel" the greatest "hoax" of the last centuries! It should be read by every non-Jew.

You now know their false identity as "Israel" protects these "Jews" from being exposed as aliens and as anti-Americans. Read the books below. Give this sheet to your Minister. Tell him to preach the truth - or resign! Most preaching today is based on the "Jew-Israel" myth, and it is false.

Link or Source http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm

So genious, do yourself a favor, go read before you start making retarded assertions,if not, your ignorance shall be your downfall. Quit being a hater,because you can't be like me grin
besides I knew your greetings were fake and your words have proven me to be correct. smiley

Now go wallow in your willful lawlessness and remove my name from your mouth

Yisraylite
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Never Died by Yisraylite(m): 5:22pm On Aug 23, 2008
@ poetikalz

poetikalz:
whats the meaning of all these?I mean the basis of all these arguments.Well ,am inviting you to my church(ALL OF YOU)-including the hebrew .Navigate the nearest Mountain of Fire and Miracles Ministries and all your pressing demands shall be met.Cheers
I'm afraid you don't want me at your Church Bro's cos of the Doctrine of FIRE I bring will surely burn your church down ! smiley

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Shabbat Salam  smiley

Yisraylite
Christianity EtcRe: Can A Christian Marry More Than One Wife? by Yisraylite(m): 5:05pm On Aug 23, 2008
Shabbat Salam to all


@ MisterMan,

I am simply curious about the kind of bible Yisraylite is using. I wonder why, when quoting the bible, he uses 'strange' names like Yahawah.
I'm glad you asked, I use the Paleo Hebrew or Ancient Hebrew Torah(Original Hebrew before 585 BC).

https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/ScreenHunter_01%20Aug.%2023%2008.14.jpg

As you can see the Paleo Show the Most Ancient NAme of the Creator as YAHAWAH, while modern Hebrew(Yiddish) versions changes the Name of The Creator to Yahweh. A change brought about by Elieazr Ben Yehuda the father of the so called modern hebrew also known as Yiddish.

Well the ancient hebrews never spoke Yiddish a far eastern European langauge spoken by the Khazers(Southern Russian,Polish,Bulgaria,German, etc)

They spoke the original hebrew now called Paleo hebrew as recorded on ancient cuniforms. See below

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Notice the tranformation from the original to the so called modern

The early alphabets did not have a letter “J”.  First, you have Proto-Canaanite script. From that descended the paleo-Arabic, paleo-Aramaic, paleo-Hebrew, and the paleo-Phoenician. The Archaic Greek,  descends from the Phoenician.  And the Latin,  descends from the Greek. In time it changed to one more upright and with a slight curve to the bottom, instead of a sharp angle, about 1000 BCE. The Greeks made the letter a single, vertical stroke about 600 BCE. They named the letter an Iota. It makes the same Y sound of Yod, as a consonant, but also makes an I sound, as in index. The Romans gave the “I”  its capital form about 114 CE. When “I” was the initial letter in a word, they began making an ornamental, descending stroke to the left. This began in the 1200’s and became popular in the 1500’s. Generally the initial sound of I was as a consonant. Eventually, the Letter J came to denote the Y sound and I the I sound. The letter J became different from the I, in 1630, in England.


With the development of the letter J and the European use of the letter V for Waw, the corrupted spelling of Iehowah, became Jehovah.

There are several accounts to when the first use of Jehovah began. “But in the Middle Ages certain Christian theologians (the first known is Raymond Martin in 1270), copying the voweled tetragrammaton in transliteration, spelled it out to read JeHoVaH.” (The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, 1905, Jehovah, Pg. 55)  “The pronunciation indicated by ‘Jehovah’ (J being pronounced as Y) has been traced as far back as Wessel (d. 1489), who used Johavah and Jehovah, and Petrus Galatinus, confessor of Leo X. (1513-21).” (The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, Yahweh, pg. 470)  In 1516, Pietro Columna Galatinus (1460-1540), Pope Leo 10th’s confessor, wrote a book titled, “De Arcanis Catholicae Veritatis (Concerning Secrets of Universal Truth). In his book, written in Latin, he introduces the spelling of Jehovah. “It was contested by other scholars as being against grammatical and historical propriety”. (Oxford English Dictionary, Jehovah. Encyclopedia Judaica, Galatinus.)

In Biblical Hebrew, Samaritan Hebrew Waw was a W/You. Greek did not have a V, neither did Akkadian, Arabic or Ethiopic, Waw is W. An old Persian syllabary, in cuneiform, has a wa and a wi, but no v's, yet later Persian did.


Why do you keep referring to Jacob as Dawad etc. If is akin to referring to Olusegun Obasanjo Godwin Obasanjo. Would you want to refer to George Bush as George Igbo. This are things that one will feel a man should know.
Please quote your source. I never referred to Jacob as Dawad  huh  Ya'aqob(Jacob) and Dawad(David)

Let your heart not be troubled or be overly upset over a little family spat b/w Mazaje and myself, we're brothers and we're good,  grin sometimes the words may appear brash and extreme both the intent is always a right one. If you check all my posts, I really don't have any honey,candies or sweets for anyone, I do the dirty work,I put up the scripts most people want to either ignore or the laws they willfully do away with and this is not the popular thing to do.

There a saying that goes like this" The truth is bitter" .

Neh 9:30 Yet for many years You had patience with them, And testified against them by Your Spirit in Your prophets. Yet they would not listen; Therefore You gave them into the hand of the peoples of the lands

When people perceive a message to be against their actions they usually don't take it very well, most of Abba YAHAWAH'S messengers were not popular,case in point:

2Ch 24:18   Therefore they left the house of YAHAWAH, FATHER of their fathers, and served wooden images and gods(elohim); and wrath came upon Yahadah and Yahrushalayim because of their trespass.

2Ch 24:19   Yet He sent prophets to them, to bring them back to YAHAWAH; and they testified against them, but they would not listen.

2Ch 24:20   Then the Spirit of YAHAWAH came upon Zechariah the son of Yahyada the priest, who stood above the people, and said to them, "This is what YAHAWAH says: 'Why do you

transgress the commandments of YAHAWAH, so that you cannot prosper? Because you have forsaken YAHAWAH, He also has forsaken you.'"

2Ch 24:21   So they conspired against him, and at the command of the king they stoned him with stones in the court of the house of YAHAWAH.



This is NOT A POPULAR MESSAGE FOR ONE TO CARRY, HOW MANY CHURCHES ARE TEACHING PEOPLE TO OBEY THE CREATOR'S LAWS OF PEACE, LOVE AND UNITY?


So now please now bear witness to the Truth:

Psa 119:142   Your righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and Your Law is Truth.

Psa 119:151   You are near, O YAHAWAH, And all Your commandments are Truth.

Psa 119:172   My tongue shall speak of Your word, For all Your commandments are righteousness.

Psa 19:7   The law of YAHAWAH is perfect, converting the person;The testimony of YAHAWAH is sure, making wise the simple;

Psa 19:8   The statutes of YAHAWAH are right, rejoicing the heart; The commandment of YAHAWAH is pure, enlightening the eyes;

Psa 19:9   The Reverence of YAHAWAH is clean, enduring forever; The judgments of YAHAWAH are true and righteous altogether.

Isa 8:20   To the law and to the Prophets! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them

Pro 28:9 One who turns away his ear from hearing the Law, Even his prayer is an abomination.



In spite of  The TRUTH as given by YAHAWAH recorded in the Torah, man is free to choose his own  path, so believe what you may, This Truth shall never be done away with for it is Perfect !

Shabbat  Salam  smiley

Yisraylite
Christianity EtcRe: Hell:a Bundle Of Lies. by Yisraylite(m): 6:38pm On Aug 22, 2008
@gyara2
gyara2:
Hell is real so my brother play wit your God your creator, always ask him for wisdom to understand his words
Bros have you ever been there or seen hell? The only two people I know of who've been to hell in their mind were Dante and Virgil from the book Dante's inferno


Hades and Hell

Hades
 
In Greek mythology Hades is the King of the Dead.  He is a son of the titans Cronus and Rhea, and brother to Zeus, Poseidon, Demeter, Hera and Hestia   After Zeus had overthrown Cronus, the three brothers divided the world between them.  Zeus ruled the heavens; Poseidon ruled the sea and Hades was left to rule the underworld.  There, with his queen Persephone, who he abducted from the world above, he ruled the kingdom of the dead.


Hades abducts Persephone
 

Although Hades was a grim and pitiless god, unappeased by prayer or sacrifice, he was not an evil god; mostly he was concerned with increasing the number of his subjects, which he ruled justly.  Those whose calling increased the number of his dead subjects were seen as welcome guests, the Erinnyes (the Furies) for example were particularly welcome.  Once in his realm, he was disinclined to allow any of his subjects leave, a condition that even applied to his wife Persephone, who he allowed to visit with her mother Demeter during the Spring and Summer, provided she return to him in the Winter.  One exception was the legend of Orpheus and Eurydice.

 

Hades may have been a remorseless god with a terrible temper, but he was not capricious.  Indeed as Pluto (his Roman aspect) he was also known as the god of wealth and riches, because as crops were grown and precious metals mined from the earth, people believed them to have come from his kingdom below the ground.  He also had a helmet that made the wearer invisible, given to him by the Cyclopes in appreciation of his help and prowess in battle, this he would lend to other gods and mortals when needed (as in the legend of Perseus).

 

Of all the Olympian gods, Hades is the one least liked, and except for Zeus, most other gods lived in fear and had an aversion of him.  He was a frightening opponent in battle and had proved his worth during the ten-year war of Titanomachy, the battle of the Olympians versus the Titans in which Zeus had overthrown his father Cronus.  His weapon of choice was a two-pronged fork, which he used to shatter anything in his way or not to his liking (much as Poseidon did with his trident).  Hades rode into battle on a dark chariot drawn by four huge coal-black horses, an impressive sight striking fear into the hearts of his enemies.  Although he was an Olympian, Hades spent most of the time in his own dark realm.

 
Hades rides into battle
 

In the real world, people avoided speaking his name lest they attracted his unwanted attention.  In rituals they sacrificed black sheep, letting the blood of the sacrifice drip and seep into the earth, at the same time while praying to him, they would bang their hands on the ground so he would hear their devotions.  Sacred to him was the narcissus plant (named after Narcissus, who in Greek mythology was a beautiful young man who had rejected the love of the nymph Echo, and was condemned to fall in love with his own reflection in a pool.  So intense was his passion for himself he pined away, and in the place where he died a flower sprang up that was named after him), the species of which genus includes:  daffodils, jonquils and narcissuses.  The cypress is also sacred to him; branches of cypress were used as a symbol of mourning.

 

Hell
 

The underworld is often referred to as Hell, or ‘Hades’ in reference to his title as King of the dead.  Hell was his place of residence, a place divided into two regions:  Erebus, where the dead pass on to as soon as they die, and Tartarus a deeper region, the infernal abyss, a place of punishment for the wicked after death and where the Titans had been imprisoned.  Hell the underworld of Hades was a dark, dim, subterranean place, inhabited by vague forms, shadows and numerous rivers.

 

Somewhere in the darkness of the underworld was the palace of Hades.  It is often depicted as a many-gated, dark and gloomy place, set in the midst of shadowy fields and haunted landscapes.  Cerberus a fierce three-headed, dragon-tailed dog, guards the gates.  Inside however, it was redolent with the treasures of the earth and thronged with his guests.  From here Hades ruled his kingdom while sitting on a throne made of ebony, the scepter and badge of his office was a staff, with which he drove unrepentant souls of the dead into the lower world of Tartarus.  To get to the palace was a long and perilous journey crossing the many rivers.

 

On death, the soul of a person was lead by Hermes to the entrance of the underworld, there to be met by the aged Charon who runs the only ferry allowed the cross the rivers.  Only those who could pay the fare (after death, coins and other treasures were often buried with the deceased for this purpose) would receive passage, those who couldn’t pay would be trapped between two worlds.  The journey would begin on the Acheron (the river of woe), down the Cocytus (the river of lamentation), into the Lethe (the river of forgetfulness), through the Phlegethon (the river of fire) and on to the Styx (the river of hate) to arrive at the gates of the palace.

 

The soul then enters through the gates to be met by Cerberus, who allows all souls to enter, but none to leave.  The soul then appears before a panel of three judges, Rhadamanthus, Minos, and Aeacus, who review the souls past life.  Those who had been good were blessed and allowed to proceed into the Elysian Fields, a happy final resting place.  Those who had not were damned and abolished to Tartarus, the infernal abyss, there to forever reside in torment.  The legends of Sisyphus and Tantalus are examples of this.

[url]http://www.controverscial.com/Greek%20Mythology.htm#Hades%20and%20Hell[/url] 

Again ! The Hebrew word Sheol means the grave, this is what these Greco -Roman translators changed to become Hell(from greek mythology)

When you have a chance look up the book Dante's Inferno. Read my brother!! Knowledge is power

Salamah!
Yisraylite  smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Religion Is Jargon by Yisraylite(m): 6:23pm On Aug 22, 2008
@Madamkoko
madamkoko:
l o l
You laughing at my atempt in pigeon english?  grin Stay safe  smiley

Salamah
Yisraylite smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Religion Is Jargon by Yisraylite(m): 5:12pm On Aug 22, 2008
@Mazaje

Salamah Bros !, Wey tin dey happen?  grin I hope all is well in ya neck of the woods? grin , stay safe and blessed my brother

YAH bless !
Yisraylite  smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by Yisraylite(m): 4:58pm On Aug 22, 2008
@KunleOshob

As far as i know the garden of eden was in what is now called mordern day Iraq, let's even assume you are right (because the bible also mentions ethiope) which could be ethopia how does that relate to you  west african hebrew indeed
The History of Torah originates in Africa and I’m an African period(whether north, west, south or east make little difference). You seem to forget that our ancestors did not sprout out off the west African soil like trees.

Our ancestors the ancient Africans migrated and resettled across the continent, people moved around as conditions for living, and  the need for sustenance changed. There were cross Saharan trade routes and people brought their skills and beliefs with them as they moved around.


https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/Migration%20AncientMap.gif

The Garden of Eden was located b/w 4 riverheads as stated in Bereshith(Genesis)

Gen 2:10   Now a river went out of Eden to water the garden, and from there it parted and became four riverheads.

Gen 2:11   The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which skirts the whole land of Hawalah, where there is gold.


Nubia; Nub means gold in ancient Egyptian

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Gen 2:12   And the gold of that land is good. Bdellium and the onyx stone are there.

Gen 2:13   The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one which goes around the whole land of Kush.

Gen 2:14   The name of the third river is Hiddekel(Tigris) it is the one which goes toward the east of Assyria. The fourth river is the Euphrates.


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The Gihon is known today as the blue Nile, While the Pishon is Known as the white Nile. The Tigris or Hiddekel and Euphrates are located in Mesopotamia(Iraqi region)

Abba YAHAWAH’S Garden sat b/w these 4 rivers An area which extended from North East Africa to Iraq.

You reasoning seems to come from your modern day outlook on this topic, The Sudan & Ethiopia as you know it today is quite different from the Soudan & Aithiopia of ancient times.

Lets take a look at some ancients maps of Africa, please see below


https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/Lower%20Ethiopia%28Nig%29.jpg

This map from the 14-1500s show West Africa with Nigeria as we know it today located between the regions of Guine(Guinea) and Lower Ethiopia.

https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/Gvinee.jpg

https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/Sudan-Nig.jpg

This map shows Nigeria located between Guin(shown in the green color) and Soudan(shown in pink) bordered by the Shara,Biafra and Ethiopia.

You can as well revert back to west african ancestral gods in that case.
huh Why would I revert to God worship? When this has been proven to be the downfall of  our ancestors who knew and worshiped YAHAWAH, but forsook Him for the worship of the Gods(Elohim) of the surrounding nations.

Jdg 2:13 They forsook YAHAWAH and served Baal(Lord) and the Ashtoreths(Godesses).* 

Eze 16:26 You have  also committed fornication with the Egyptians your neighbors, great of flesh; and hast increased thy whoredoms, to provoke me to anger.

1Ki 9:6   "But if you or your sons at all turn from following Me, and do not keep My commandments and My statutes which I have set before you, but go and serve hinder gods(elohim) and worship them,

1Ki 9:7   "then I will cut off Yisrayl from the land which I have given them; and this house which I have consecrated for My Name I will cast out of My sight. Yisrayl will be a proverb and a byword among all peoples.


I aslo hope you are sincerely keeping all the 613 laws of the torah (Your adopted faith) which includes burnt offerings and stoning people to death for not observing the sabbath.
Psa 111:10   The reverence of YAHAWAH is the beginning of wisdom; a righteous understanding have all those who do His commandments. His praise endures forever.

[b]If you had a good understanding of the Abba’s Law, then you would understand that the 613 laws are for the Nation of Yisrayl which is currently not in existance. While the Ten commandments pertain more to the individual.The Israel (Israelis)you have today was created by the British empire and populated with southern Russian and other European immigrants,with no king or monarchy ruling them. These people are imposters just the Dutch who ruled through apertiad

Yes, I do keep the Ten loving commands from our Righteous FATHER, the same that tell you do not steal, murder, bear false witness, against your brother or sister, Keep the 7th day holy etc because I can still detect the hatred for YAHAWAH'S LAW within your speech

It’s Christians that don’t observe Shabbat(rest) on the 7th day, known today as Saturn’s day (Greek god) or Saturday. The Christian world is lawless since they all are no more under Abba YAHAWAH’S
Laws.

Rest assured that the whole earth shall soon observe the FATHER’S Law, those who survive the coming destruction of all haughty nations and Kings of the earth.
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Isa 66:23   And it shall come to pass that from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another, all flesh shall come to worship before Me," says YAHAWAH.


Eze 39:6 "And I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in security in the coastlands. Then they shall know that I am YAHAWAH.

Isa 66:16   For by fire and by His sword YAHAWAH will judge all flesh; and the slain of YAHAWAH shall be many.

Isa 66:17   "Those who sanctify themselves and purify themselves,to go to the gardens after a god(el) in the midst,eating swine's flesh and the abomination and the mouse,
Shall be consumed together," says YAHAWAH.

Isa 66:18   "For I know their works and their thoughts. It shall be that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come and see My glory.

Isa 66:19   "I will set a sign among them; and those among them who escape I will send to the nations: to Tarshish and Pul and Lud, who draw the bow, and Tubal and Yavan, to the coastlands afar off who have not heard My fame nor seen My glory. And they shall declare My glory among the Gentiles.

Isa 66:20   "Then they shall bring all your brethren for an offering to YAHAWAH out of all nations, on horses and in chariots and in litters, on mules and on camels, to My holy mountain Jerusalem," says YAHAWAH, "as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of YAHAWAH.

Isa 66:21   "And I will also take some of them for priests and Levites," says YAHAWAH.

Isa 66:22   "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make shall remain before Me," says YAHAWAH,"So shall your descendants and your name remain.

Isa 66:23   And it shall come to pass that from one New Moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, all flesh shall come to worship before Me," says YAHAWAH.

Isa 66:24   "And they shall go forth and look upon the corpses of the men who have transgressed against Me. For their worm does not die, and their fire is not quenched. They shall be an abhorrence to all flesh."


Isa 24:4   The earth mourns and fades away, the world languishes and fades away;The haughty people of the earth languish.

Isa 24:5   The earth is also defiled under its inhabitants, because they have transgressed the laws,changed the ordinance,broken the everlasting covenant.

Isa 24:6   Therefore the curse has devoured the earth, and those who dwell in it are desolate. Therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men are left.




I aslo hope you are sincerely keeping all the 613 laws of the torah (Your adopted faith)
Adopted huh Adopted from who? have you not read this before?

Ecc 12:13   Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:

Reverence YAHAWAH and keep His commandments, For this is the whole duty of man

Ecc 12:14   For YAHAWAH will bring every work into judgment,Including every secret thing, Whether rigtheouness or evil

YAHAWAH has given His Law to mankind, so why would I need to adopt them? huh

Again believe what you want, because YAHAWAH has allowed you the freedom to do that, but you can not change history, at least I'm not bowing down and crying to a mythological European concucted blonde hair and blue eyed false savior

Deu 32:39 'Now see that I, even I , am He, And there is no God(EL) with Me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; Nor is there any who can deliver from My hand

Isa 43:11   I, even I, am YAHAWAH, and besides Me there is no savior. (so much for Ea-Zeus)

Hsa 13:4 "Yet I am YAHAWAH your Father ever since the land of Egypt, And you will acknowledge no power or authority but Me; For there is no savior besides Me. ( so much for Jesus Christ a.k.a Ea Zeus the healer, Iesous, Iesus, Yeshua, Yahsua, Yehoshuah etc)





Salamah
Yisraylite
Christianity EtcRe: Religion Is Jargon by Yisraylite(m): 7:12pm On Aug 21, 2008
@Madamkoko

the guy that wrote the book THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE  Arthur Koestler was a Jew who exposed the lies of his people(Jewish people) and was murdered in 1976 if I'm not mistaken
Sorry I made a mistake Arthur Koestler was murdered in 1983 not 1976 outside his flat in London for exposing the lies of his own people the Eastern European Jews


Salamah  smiley

yisraylite
Christianity EtcRe: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by Yisraylite(m): 1:05pm On Aug 21, 2008
@ KunleOshob

Bro's the Torah has it's history started from Africa, and YAHAWAH never gave religion He gave an obedient way of life to mankind

Gen 2:11   The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which skirts the whole land of Hawilah, where there is gold.

Gen 2:12   And the gold of that land is good. Bdellium and the onyx stone are there.

Gen 2:13   The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one which goes around the whole land of Kush.

Kush= Ethiopia, Hawilah = Sudan, Yahrushalayim(Jerusalem) is located in North east Africa changed by the British to the Middle east

Mosheh(Moses) was a North African Hebrew son of Levi born in Egypt, who maried an Ethiopian woman

Research it

I'm a West African Hebrew

salamah

Yisraylite  smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by Yisraylite(m): 12:46pm On Aug 21, 2008
@ KunleOshob

Bro's  I'm glad  smiley and you should be happy for finally doing the right thing, after all ain't that what this is all about, we as children of the Creator doing what's right by YAHAWAH and also our fellow man? grin

salamah Bros
Yis
Christianity EtcRe: Pre-Marital Sex Is Not Fornication by Yisraylite(m): 12:43pm On Aug 21, 2008
@ Gamine

huh which Holy Bible are you referring to? The one with 66 books or the one with 70 books, what about the lost books? they ain't lost no more, what version? The king of England's version?(James) or the NIV, ESV, Young's, ASV etc

Do you see any probelms developing here? the all the confusion here, the KJV is King Jame's version of the latin translation of the ancient Torah with a whole new book added called the New testament. There is only one version of Torah the Original and the Dead sea scroll support this account

You guys keep going on like you own christianity when Mary and Jesus just came to Nigeria b/w the 14th and 15th century

From Wiki

Christianity came to Nigeria in the 14th century through Augustine and Capuchine monks from Portugal. The first mission of the Church of England was, though, only established in 1842 in Badagry by Henry Townsend. In 1864 Samuel Ajayi Crowther, a Yoruba and former Slave, was elected bishop of the Niger. Lagos became a diocese of its own in 1919.

Leslie Gordon Vining became bishop of Lagos in 1940 and in 1951 the first Archbishop of the newly inaugurated Province of West Africa. Vining was the last bishop of Lagos of European descent.

Prior to this there was no Jesus in Nigeria, This is a European religion brought to you by the church of England and King James

Ain't this what's written:

Pro 30:6 Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar

Deu 4:2 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of YAHAWAH your FATHER which I command you.  

Deu 12:32 "Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it

Ecc 3:14   I know that whatever YAHAWAH does,It shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, and nothing taken from it.
YAHAWAH does it, that men should fear before Him.

Jos 1:8   "This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate in it day and night, that you may observe to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success


The Book of the Law is not the New testament. Did your christ quote from the new testament when he supposedly said for " it is written"
written where?

what book did your founder of christianity Paul quote from? Are his writtings letters or new commandment?

I look forward to your sincere and earnest response to these questions, and no name calling this time. let's just get to the issue


You can't blame Minute for making those comments, this is what Christianity teaches, Any society that does not have rules and laws becomes lawless

so if christianity teaches that the law is nailed to the cross then there is no standard for Judgment yet  xtians claim that Christ is coming to judge the world,
so I ask , With what Law or standard is he going to carry out his so called Judgment?

Have you been to a court of Law? by what standards does the judge rule on a law suit?

Yisraylite

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