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@ Lady 234

where you at?, na you I dey wait for

@ na2day?

You continue to validate my words,that your parents were the idiots for having you with your fake wanna be psychic azz!! . Don't bite off more than you can  chew small boy!! go play with your toys somewhere while your elders are conversing!!!

@ Enoyoh

Eccle 12: 13

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

Nice one Bro!!

@ Lady 234

Quick question:

[1] Your new testament sys this:

John 3:16 says; For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but shall have eternal life.

and yet your Jesus says this: Mat 15:24 But He answered and said, "I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

You  you see a problem with this?

[2] When a woman caught in the act of adultery was brought to your Jesus , It is stated that this was what he said "Jhn 8:11 She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said to her, "Neither do I condemn you; go and [fn] sin no more."

and also in this instance He stated this:Jhn 5:14 Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, "See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you."

GO AND SIN NO MORE!!!!  ( Go and do not break the "do not commit adultery Law" anymore)

WHY DID HE NOT SAY TO THESE PEOPLE, I'M GOING TO  DIE FOR YOU TO SAVE YOU FROM YOUR SINS?

@ The _Seeker

Spot on !

When guys like nuclearboy can't refute they resort to hurling insults, which is a best childish, and immature

Isa 7:14 Therefore YAHAWAH Himself shall give you a sign: Behold, the young woman is with child, and she will bear a son, and shall call his name ‘Immanu-Yah’.

Isa 7:16 For before the Child shall know to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land that you dread will be forsaken by both her kings

Isa 8:3 Then I went to the prophetess, and she conceived and bore a son. Then YAHAWAH said to me, "Call his name Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz

Isa 8:4 for before the child shall have knowledge to cry 'My father' and 'My mother,' the riches of Damascus and the spoil of Samaria will be taken away before the king of Assyria."


Isa 8:5 YAHAWAH also spoke to me again, saying:


Isa 8:6 "Inasmuch as these people refused The waters of Shiloah that flow softly, And rejoice in Rezin and in Remaliah's son;


Isa 8:7 Now therefore, behold, YAHAWAH brings up over them The waters of the River, [fn] strong and mighty-- The king of Assyria and all his glory; He will go up over all his channels And go over all his banks.


Isa 8:8 He will pass through Yahadah, He will overflow and pass over, He will reach up to the neck; And the stretching out of his wings Will fill the breadth of Your land, O Immanu-Yah (YHWH is with us)


Isa 8:9 "Be shattered, O you peoples, and be broken in pieces! Give ear, all you from far countries. Gird yourselves, but be broken in pieces; Gird yourselves, but be broken in pieces.


Isa 8:10 Take counsel together, but it will come to nothing; Speak the word, but it will not stand, For YAHAWAH [is] with us (Immanu-Yah)


I hope you don't think you can get away with creating one verse doctrines, You have to see that verse in its full context!!!


THE SEVENTH CHAPTER IN THE BOOK OF ISAIAH BEGINS BY DESCRIBING THE MILITARY CRISIS THAT WAS CONFRONTING KING AHAZ OF THE KINGDOM OF JUDAH. AROUND THE YEAR 732 B.C.E., THE HOUSE OF DAVID WAS FACING IMMINENT DESTRUCTION AT THE HANDS OF TWO WARRING KINGDOMS: THE NORTHERN KINGDOM OF ISRAEL, LED BY KING PEQAH, AND THE KINGDOM OF SYRIA (ARAM), LED BY KING RETSIN. THESE TWO ARMIES HAD BESIEGED JERUSALEM. ISAIAH RECORDS THAT THE HOUSE OF DAVID AND KING AHAZ WERE GRIPPED WITH FEAR. YHWH SENT THE PROPHET ISAIAH TO REASSURE KING AHAZ THAT DIVINE PROTECTION WAS AT HAND YHWH WOULD PROTECT HIM AND HIS KINGDOM AND THAT THEIR DELIVERANCE WAS ASSURED, AND THESE TWO HOSTILE ARMIES WOULD FAIL IN THEIR ATTEMPT TO SUBJUGATE JERUSALEM.

IT IS CLEAR FROM THE NARRATIVE IN THIS CHAPTER, THAT ISAIAH’S DECLARATION (IS 7:14-16) WAS A PROPHECY ABOUT THE UNSUCCESSFUL SIEGE OF JERUSALEM BY THE TWO ARMIES FROM THE NORTH. THE VERSES ISAIAH 7:15-16 STATE THAT, BY THE TIME THIS CHILD (WHOSE IMMINENT BIRTH WAS FORETOLD IN ISAIAH 7:14) REACHES THE AGE OF MATURITY (“… HE KNOWS TO REJECT BAD AND CHOOSE GOOD …”), THE KINGS OF THE TWO ENEMY NATIONS WILL BE GONE, IN FACT, THEY WILL BE KILLED. TWO BIBLICAL PASSAGES, 2 KINGS 15:29-30 AND 2 KINGS 16:9, CONFIRM THAT THIS PROPHECY WAS CONTEMPORANEOUSLY FULFILLED WHEN THESE TWO KINGS WERE ASSASSINATED. WITH AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONTEXT OF ISAIAH 7:14 ALONE, IT IS EVIDENT THAT THE NAME OF THE CHILD IN ISAIAH 7:14, IMMANU'YAH, IS A SIGN WHICH POINTS TO THE DIVINE PROTECTION THAT KING AHAZ AND HIS PEOPLE WOULD ENJOY FROM THEIR OTHERWISE CERTAIN DEMISE AT THE HANDS OF THESE TWO ENEMIES. CLEARLY, ISAIAH 7:14 IS A NEAR-TERM PROPHECY THAT IS PART OF AN HISTORIC NARRATIVE, AND WHICH WAS FULFILLED IN THE IMMEDIATE TIME FRAME, NOT SOME SEVEN-AND-A-HALF CENTURIES IN THE FUTURE.


Salamah!!

@ Lady 234

Similar future tenses are used in other prophecies concerning Christ. "I will raise (Israel) up a Prophet like unto (Moses)" (Deut. 18:18) is quoted in Acts 3:22,23, which defines the "Prophet" as Jesus. "A virgin (Mary) shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel" (Is. 7:14). This was clearly fulfilled in Christ's birth (Matt. 1:23).

[1] "I will raise (Israel) up a Prophet like unto (Moses)" (Deut. 18:18) is quoted in Acts 3:22,23, which defines the "Prophet" as Jesus.

May I submit that  your Jesus was not like unto Moses! Masha(Musa) had a Hebraic father while according to the catholic immaculate conception Jesus did not! adoption cannot transfer a bloodline and the so called Holy Ghost would not have any tribal affiliations or Bloodline besides, Mary came from Nathan's line not Solomon!

[b]Deu 18:18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him

Deut17:15", You may appoint a king over you, whom YAHAWAH your Father shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you

Did you get that? Let me explain. The key here is “like you from among your brethren, and one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you”.  Not a half spirit half man

From Deut 17:15 & 18:18 Abba YAHAWAH says this prophet and king shall be like Masha(Moses,Musa) a Priest, Leader, and King  appointed by YAHAWAH to rule over His people. That’s right Masha(Moses,Musa) was a Levite priest and also was king in Yis-ra-yl

Deu 33:5 And He(Masha(Moses,Musa)) was King in Yahshurun, When the leaders of the people were gathered, All the tribes of Yis-ra-yl together.

Masha(Moses,Musa) was born of a human father and mother from the Tribe of Lewi:

Exd 2:1   AND a man of the house of Levi went and took as wife a daughter of Levi.

Exd 2:2   So the woman conceived and bore a son. And when she saw that he was a beautiful child, she hid him three months.

Exd 2:10   And the child grew, and she brought him to Pharaoh's daughter, and he became her son. So she called his name Masha(Moses,Musa) saying, "Because I drew him out of the water."

Num 26:59  The name of Amram's wife was Yochebed the daughter of Levi, who was born to Levi in Egypt; and to Amram she bore Aharon and Masha(Moses,Musa) and their sister Miriam.

Exd 2:11   Now it came to pass in those days, when Masha(Moses,Musa) was grown, that he went out to his brethren and looked at their burdens. And he saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew, one of his brethren.

And like Masha(Moses,Musa), this king and prophet would be born of a father and mother like all the rest of us all born of parents not ghosts or spirits !!!!  And like Masha(Moses,Musa), He would come from among his brethren.
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[2] "A virgin (Mary) shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel" (Is. 7:14). This was clearly fulfilled in Christ's birth (Matt. 1:23).

[b]Isa 7:14 Therefore YAHAWAH Himself shall give you a sign: Behold, the young woman is with child, and she will bear a son, and shall call his name ‘Immanu-Yah’.

Isa 7:16 For before the Child shall know to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land that you dread will be forsaken by both her kings

Isa 8:3 Then I went to the prophetess, and she conceived and bore a son. Then YAHAWAH said to me, "Call his name Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz

Isa 8:4 for before the child shall have knowledge to cry 'My father' and 'My mother,' the riches of Damascus and the spoil of Samaria will be taken away before the king of Assyria." 


Isa 8:5 YAHAWAH also spoke to me again, saying: 


Isa 8:6 "Inasmuch as these people refused The waters of Shiloah that flow softly, And rejoice in Rezin and in Remaliah's son; 


Isa 8:7 Now therefore, behold, YAHAWAH brings up over them The waters of the River, [fn] strong and mighty-- The king of Assyria and all his glory; He will go up over all his channels And go over all his banks. 


Isa 8:8 He will pass through Yahadah, He will overflow and pass over, He will reach up to the neck; And the stretching out of his wings Will fill the breadth of Your land, O Immanu-Yah (YHWH is with us) 


Isa 8:9 "Be shattered, O you peoples, and be broken in pieces! Give ear, all you from far countries. Gird yourselves, but be broken in pieces; Gird yourselves, but be broken in pieces. 


Isa 8:10 Take counsel together, but it will come to nothing; Speak the word, but it will not stand, For YAHAWAH [is] with us (Immanu-Yah)


I hope you don't think you can get away with creating one verse doctrines, You have to see that verse in its full context!!!


THE SEVENTH CHAPTER IN THE BOOK OF ISAIAH BEGINS BY DESCRIBING THE MILITARY CRISIS THAT WAS CONFRONTING KING AHAZ OF THE KINGDOM OF JUDAH.  AROUND THE YEAR 732 B.C.E., THE HOUSE OF DAVID WAS FACING IMMINENT DESTRUCTION AT THE HANDS OF TWO WARRING KINGDOMS: THE NORTHERN KINGDOM OF ISRAEL, LED BY KING PEQAH, AND THE KINGDOM OF SYRIA (ARAM), LED BY KING RETSIN. THESE TWO ARMIES HAD BESIEGED JERUSALEM.  ISAIAH RECORDS THAT THE HOUSE OF DAVID AND KING AHAZ WERE GRIPPED WITH FEAR.  YHWH SENT THE PROPHET ISAIAH TO REASSURE KING AHAZ THAT DIVINE PROTECTION WAS AT HAND YHWH WOULD PROTECT HIM AND HIS KINGDOM AND THAT THEIR DELIVERANCE WAS ASSURED, AND THESE TWO HOSTILE ARMIES WOULD FAIL IN THEIR ATTEMPT TO SUBJUGATE JERUSALEM.

IT IS CLEAR FROM THE NARRATIVE IN THIS CHAPTER, THAT ISAIAH’S DECLARATION (IS 7:14-16) WAS A PROPHECY ABOUT THE UNSUCCESSFUL SIEGE OF JERUSALEM BY THE TWO ARMIES FROM THE NORTH.  THE VERSES ISAIAH 7:15-16 STATE THAT, BY THE TIME THIS CHILD (WHOSE IMMINENT BIRTH WAS FORETOLD IN ISAIAH 7:14) REACHES THE AGE OF MATURITY (“… HE KNOWS TO REJECT BAD AND CHOOSE GOOD …”), THE KINGS OF THE TWO ENEMY NATIONS WILL BE GONE, IN FACT, THEY WILL BE KILLED.  TWO BIBLICAL PASSAGES, 2 KINGS 15:29-30 AND 2 KINGS 16:9, CONFIRM THAT THIS PROPHECY WAS CONTEMPORANEOUSLY FULFILLED WHEN THESE TWO KINGS WERE ASSASSINATED.  WITH AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONTEXT OF ISAIAH 7:14 ALONE, IT IS EVIDENT THAT THE NAME OF THE CHILD IN ISAIAH 7:14, IMMANU'YAH, IS A SIGN WHICH POINTS TO THE DIVINE PROTECTION THAT KING AHAZ AND HIS PEOPLE WOULD ENJOY FROM THEIR OTHERWISE CERTAIN DEMISE AT THE HANDS OF THESE TWO ENEMIES.  CLEARLY, ISAIAH 7:14 IS A NEAR-TERM PROPHECY THAT IS PART OF AN HISTORIC NARRATIVE, AND WHICH WAS FULFILLED IN THE IMMEDIATE TIME FRAME, NOT SOME SEVEN-AND-A-HALF CENTURIES IN THE FUTURE.
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@OLAADEGBU

Even though you have been brainwashed your heart needs to be bloodwashed with the blood of the lamb.  Now read what God requires of you.

What God Requires

"And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul, To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?" (Deuteronomy 10:12-13)

This sounds simple enough, and the people of Israel readily agreed with Moses to do these things.  Modern religious liberals cite such a lifestyle as all that is necessary to satisfy God.  But the rub is this: Who dares claim to "walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the Lord |his| God with all |his| heart?" Anyone who makes such a claim would be breaking God’s commandment against lying.

I found something interesting from your new testament:

Luk 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the division of Abijah. His wife [was] of the daughters of Aaron, and her name [was] Elizabeth. 


Luk 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless

Hmmm! according to you these people were also liars right? b/cos these are your words

Modern religious liberals cite such a lifestyle as all that is necessary to satisfy God.  But the rub is this: Who dares claim to "walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the Lord |his| God with all |his| heart?" Anyone who makes such a claim would be breaking God’s commandment against lying.

From what I can see these people made that claim so are they liars?

@ na2day?

like i said before, dont u have a plane to blow up or building to run into then blow urself up shouting allah hu akbar?

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Pro 17:28 Even a fool is counted wise when he holds his peace; [When] he shuts his lips, [he is considered] perceptive. 

Pro 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding, But in expressing his own heart

Yer(Jer) 4:22 "For My people [are] foolish, They have not known Me. They [are] silly children, And they have no understanding. They [are] wise to do evil, But to do good they have no knowledge."  [/size]

@  Krayola & toneyb

Deu 18:18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him

Deut17:15", You may appoint a king over you, whom YAHAWAH your Father shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you

Did you get that? . The key here is “like you from among you brethren, and one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you”.  Not a half spirit half man

From Deut 17:15 & 18:18 Abba YAHAWAH says this prophet and king shall be like Masha(Moses,Musa) a Priest, Leader, and King  appointed by YAHAWAH to rule over His people. That’s right Masha(Moses,Musa) was a Levite priest and also was king in Yis-ra-yl

Deu 33:5 And He(Masha(Moses,Musa)) was King in Yahshurun, When the leaders of the people were gathered, All the tribes of Yis-ra-yl together.

Masha(Moses,Musa) was born of a human father and mother from the Tribe of Lewi:

Exd 2:1   AND a man of the house of Levi went and took as wife a daughter of Levi.

Exd 2:2   So the woman conceived and bore a son. And when she saw that he was a beautiful child, she hid him three months.

Exd 2:3 And when she could no longer hide him, she took for him an ark of reeds, and plastered it with resin and with pitch, and put the child in it, and laid it in the sedge on the bank of the river.

I hope that answered your questions

@ Abu zola

@lady123- why should a sane person worship one jewish carpental ? What a pity

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

A fake Jewish Carpenter apprentice

Nice One Abu Zola!

@ lady 234

Since you insist on being persistant with your myths and fables of your Christ, let me oblige you

The Messiah would be a descendant of King David
See Jeremiah 23:5.
There are many Messianic prophecies in the Old Testament that predicted the lineage of the Messiah. In Jeremiah 23:5, as well as in other prophecies, we are told that the Messiah would be a descendant of King David. David ruled over the land of Israel about 1000 years before Jesus was born. Jesus is recorded in the New Testament books of Matthew and Luke as being a descendant of King David.

The line of kings from David would endure forever
See 2 Samuel 7:16 as an example.
There's more than one Messianic prophecy in the Old Testament that predicted that the line of kings that began with King David, about 3000 years ago, would be everlasting or eternal. History shows that most dynasties throughout history, throughout the world, were lucky if they lasted more than a few generations. But, because Jesus is fully God and fully human, he is able to be both eternal and a descendant of King David. Jesus is unique in his ability to fulfill this promise that God had made to David, that his throne would endure forever.

{1}Hebraic  Bloodlines ,or  tribal lineage goes through the father's, as it is written:

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Numbers 1:18"And they assembled all the congregation together on the first day of the second month, and they declared their pedigrees after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old an upward, by their polls

If your Jesus had no human Hebraic father, and he had a so called great supernatural Father Who was himself of no tribe, then Jesus cannot have been the Messiah.Some have tried to resolve this problem by saying that since Joseph was Jesus's adopted father, Jesus's tribe would be reckoned by Joseph's ancestry; but there is no scriptural precedent for reckoning tribal membership in this fashion. Scripture is clear that tribal membership is determined by the biological father's ancestry. (One might just as easily claim that the adopted son of a high priest is qualified to succeed him as high priest, even though high priests must be of Aaron's lineage [Numbers 18].) Joseph's ancestry is also far from clear, as Matthew 1 and Luke 3 give conflicting genealogies for Joseph (though both make him of the tribe of Yahadah). It is clear, therefore, that Yahshayah(Yahshayah (Isaiah)) 7:14 in no way foretells the birth of Jesus. 

So please prove that  your Jesus is of King Dawad's lineage through Solomon, I beg break it down for me ,verse by vesre

@OLAADEGBU

one minute your Jesus is a man and the next minute he is an animal a Lamb to be sacrificed, so who ate him after he was sacrificed


1Sa 9:13 As soon as you come into the city, you will surely find him before he goes up to the high place to eat. For the people will not eat until he comes, because he must bless the sacrifice; afterward those who are invited will eat. Now therefore, go up, for about this time you will find him."


Please tell us all who were the cannibals that ate Jesus, since he was the lamb of Sacrifice

@ Lady 234



Exd 14:30 So YAHAWAH saved Yisrayl that day out of the hand of the Egyptians, and Yisrayl saw the Egyptians dead on the seashore.

Deu 33:29 Happy are you, O Yisrayl! Who [is] like you, a people saved by YAHAWAH, The shield of your help And the sword of your majesty! Your enemies shall submit to you, And you shall tread down their high places."

Isa 43:11   I, even I, am YAHAWAH, and besides Me there is no savior. (so much for Jesus Christ a.k.a  Ea-Zeus Christos)

Isa 45:21 Tell and bring forth your case; Yes, let them take counsel together. Who has declared this from ancient time? Who has told it from that time? Have not I, YAHAWAH? And there is no other source of power besides Me, A Just Father and a SAVIOR; There is none besides Me

Deu 20:4 For YAHAWAH your Father is He who goes with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you

Hsa 13:4 "Yet I am YAHAWAH your Father ever since the land of Egypt, And you will acknowledge no power or authority but Me; For there is no savior besides Me. ( so much for Jesus Christ a.k.a Ea Zeus the healer, Iesous, Iesus, Yeshua, Yahshua, Yehoshuah etc)

Psa 55:16 As for me, I will call upon YAHAWAH, and YAHAWAH shall save me.

thanks but, no thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@OLAADEGBU

I see you've been applying your evasive maneuvers, oh well its your choice 

@Yisraylite,

Even though you have been brainwashed your heart needs to be bloodwashed with the blood of the lamb.  Now read what God requires of you.

What God Requires

"And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul, To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?" (Deuteronomy 10:12-13)

This sounds simple enough, and the people of Israel readily agreed with Moses to do these things.  Modern religious liberals cite such a lifestyle as all that is necessary to satisfy God.  But the rub is this: Who dares claim to "walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the Lord |his| God with all |his| heart?" Anyone who makes such a claim would be breaking God’s commandment against lying.

Who dares claim to "walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the Lord |his| God with all |his| heart?" Anyone who makes such a claim would be breaking God’s commandment against lying.

Jos 11:15 As YAHAWAH had commanded Masha his servant, so Masha commanded Yahshua, and so Yahshua did. He left nothing undone of all that YAHAWAH had commanded Masha.

Nice try so Masha and Yahshua ben Nun were liars according to Mr OLAADEGBU,then how do you read this:

Gen 26:5 because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws." 

Oh! Abraham too was a liar according to you, Bro I've told to leave the white man's christianity alone and come home Bro! that stuff ain't no good for ya

your heart needs to be bloodwashed with the blood of the lamb

This is what I'm talking about one minute your Jesus is a man and the next minute he is an animal a Lamb to be sacrificed, so who ate him after he was sacrificed

I guess everyday you wash your clothes in blood, Woooow! delusions, delusions, delusions! I wonder who's brainwashed here!

Isa 1:15 When you spread out your hands, I will hide My eyes from you; Even though you make many prayers, I will not hear. Your hands are full of blood. 

Isa 1:16 "Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean; Put away the evil of your doings from before My eyes. Cease to do evil, 

Isa 1:11 "To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices to Me?" Says YAHAWAH. "I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams And the fat of fed cattle. I do not delight in the blood of bulls, Or of lambs or goats. 

Hsa 6:6 For I desire mercy and not sacrifice, And the knowledge of YAHAWAH more than burnt offerings

@ slowpoke

ooh ! 

Yisraylite, you just dug a grave for yourself!! And now I know pity is the right emotion to feel toward you.

listen you mr vatican lap dog,unlike you, I speak Hebrew and have studied Paleo Hebrew for over 15 years, if you can't grasp a couple of simple verses,what makes you think I'll be wasting any time with you regarding the complicated prophecy in Dan 9:24-27

Hsa 13:11 I gave you a king in My anger ( see I sam 8:4-22), And took [him] away in My wrath


I gave you a king in My anger :

1Sa 8:6 But the thing displeased Samuyl when they said, "Give us a king to judge us." So Samuyl prayed to YAHAWAH

1Sa 8:7 And YAHAWAH said to Samuyl, "Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them.

1Sa 8:22 So YAHAWAH said to Samuyl, "Heed their voice, and make them a king." And Samuyl said to the men of Yisrayl, "Every man go to his city." 


And took [him] away in My wrath

This is what Abba YAHAWAH said of Yahyakim “

Yer 22:18   Therefore thus says YAHAWAH concerning Yahyakim  the son of Yohsiyah, king of Yahadah:

"They shall not lament for him, saying, 'Alas, my brother!' or 'Alas, my sister!' They shall not lament for him, saying, 'Alas, master!' or 'Alas, his glory!'

Yer 22:19   He shall be buried with the burial of a donkey, dragged and cast out beyond the gates of Yerusalem.

Yer 36:30 Therefore thus says YAHAWAH concerning Yahyakim king of Yahadah:

"He shall have no one to sit on the throne of Dawad(David), and his dead body shall be cast out to the heat of the day and the frost of the night

NOW PAY CLOSE ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yahyakim(Jehoiakim ) the son of king of Yahadah( Judah), his son Yekonyah(Jeconiah)[/b]who was King [b]Yohsiyah's(Josiah), grandson are both named the genealogy of your Jesus Christ
from Matt 1

Mat 1:1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham

Mat 1:11 Josiah begot Jeconiah and his brothers about the time they were carried away to Babylon

Mat 1:16 And Jacob begot Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus who is called Christ.

Yer 22:24   "As I live," says YAHAWAH, "though Konyah(Coniah) the son of Yahyakim, king of Yahadah, were the signet on My right hand, yet I would pluck you off;

Yer 22:25   "and I will give you into the hand of those who seek your life, and into the hand of those whose face you fear--the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon and the hand of the Chaldeans.

Yer 22:26   "So I will cast you out, and your mother who bore you, into another country where you were not born; and there you shall die.

Yer 22:27   "But to the land to which they desire to return, there they shall not return.


Yer 22:28   "Is this man Konyah(Coniah) a despised, broken God--A vessel in which is no pleasure? Why are they cast out, he and his descendants, and cast into a land which they do not know?

Yer 22:29   O earth, earth, earth, Hear the word of YAHAWAH!

Yer 22:30   This is what YAHAWAH says

"Write this man as if childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days. For no man of his seed shall prosper sitting upon the throne of Dawad and ruling anymore in Yahadah."

This man is a so -called ancestor of your Jesus as it states Matt 1:11, Yet YAHAWAH SAYS

"Write this man as if childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days. For no man of his seed shall prosper sitting upon the throne of Dawad and ruling anymore in Yahadah."

Yet you have been taught that your Jesus sits on this throne, How pathetic!

If you can't grasp the implications here ,then you definitely will not grasp Dan 9:24-27, so its better you stick to your Roman Catholic inspired manipulation of the prophecy in Dan 9:24-27!

@KunleOshob

The more you open your mouth, the more your ignorance is revealed !

i'd rather you repent and stop baselessly attacking the christian faith

One can only repent from lawlessness or sin!, even your book bares witness to that:

1Jo 3:4 ¶ Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

1Jo 3:4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 

What Law? Answer: the Ten Commandments

Since when did spaeking out against the Catholic dogma and the vatican's doctrines become a Sin? which is what you, are a rebellious Catholic

Loving your brothers or sisters is a commandment of christ and is not in your so called original testament

So how do you deal with this or read this? 

Lev 19:17 'You shall not hate your brother in your heart. You shall surely rebuke your neighbor, and not bear sin because of him. 


Lev 19:18 You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: AYAH(I am) YAHAWAH


Pro 26:12 Do you see a man wise in his own eyes? [There is] more hope for a fool than for him.

@ slowpoke 

Any intelligent person has doubts about information not native to him. Where intelligence doesn't make sense is when the idea is to confuse. So whist you make think you are unique in asking questions (and answering them yourself), some of us go further and search.

I do not speak Hebrew and this same issue bothered me too in the past so I did some personal searching. Luckily I kept the link and just found it now. You say it was a young woman, ehn?

Well, both alma - young woman and betula - virgin are wrong interpretations of the Hebrew.

Those who are opposed to the interpretation of Isaiah 7:14 as a prophetic passage referring to a virgin birth claim that ‘ almâ does not mean “virgin,” and that the word used exclusively for “ virgin” is the Hebrew word betûlâ. Both of these claims, however, are inaccurate. A careful look at the etymological and semantical aspects of these two words actually documents the fact that there is no single-word-meaning for either Hebrew term.

According to John Walton, one of the translations of ‘almâ is “young woman,” but there are certain nuances to the Hebrew term. After examining all occurrences of the word, and looking briefly at its etymology, Walton gave the lexicographical definition of ‘almâ as “one who has not yet borne a child and as an abstraction refers to the adolescent expectation of motherhood.” In application to Isaiah 7:14, he admitted that virginity seemed to be implied (1997a, 3:415-418). As to the claim that, if Isaiah had meant virgin, he would have used betûlâ, Walton refutes that as well. He says that betûlâ is a “social status indicating that a young girl is under the guardianship of her father, with all the age and sexual inferences that accompany that status” (1997b, 1:783). If the passage was a prophecy of the virgin birth of Jesus, then betûlâ would not apply since Mary, while not yet married per se to Joseph, was nonetheless no longer under the guardianship of her father.

The Septuagint renders ‘almâ in Isaiah 7:14 as parthenos, which means “a female of marriageable age with focus on virginity” (Danker, 2000, p. 777). Concerning the Septuagint translation of the Hebrew, Dohmen noted:

It is unlikely that the LXX [Septuagint] tried to import the concept of a virgin birth, a familiar idea in many religious traditions, into Isa. 7:14. It is also possible that the unusual translation of the LXX is an attempt to accommodate the meaning of the text as altered by both the redaction and the reception of the original prophetic oracle (2001, 10:160, emp. added).
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[b]a. BUT WHAT IS THE PRECISE MEANING OF 'ALMAH? THERE ARE NUMEROUS SCHOLARS WHO ARE NONCOMMITTAL AS TO WHETHER THE TERM SIGNIFIES A VIRGIN OR A MARRIED WOMAN. ROGERS STATES HIS POSITION CLEARLY: "FIRST OF ALL, IT MUST BE SAID THAT THE HEBREW WORD ALMAH MAY MEAN 'VIRGIN,' BUT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN ANYTHING MORE THAN A YOUNG WOMAN OF MARRIAGEABLE AGE. HAD THE PROPHET INTENDED SPECIFICALLY AND PRECISELY TO SAY 'VIRGIN,' HE MUST HAVE USED THE WORD BETHULAH, THOUGH EVEN THEN THERE WOULD BE A FAINT SHADE OF UNCERTAINTY
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c. CHRISTIAN TRANSLATIONS

THE CHRISTIAN TRANSLATIONS ARE GENERALLY INCONSISTENT IN THEIR RENDITIONS OF THE TERM   (HA'ALMAH) – SOME USE THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY FOR THE NOUN ITSELF, I.E., YOUNG WOMAN OR MAIDEN, OTHERS USE VIRGIN; AND SOME PRESERVE THE DEFINITE ARTICLE, THE, WHILE OTHERS CHANGE IT TO THE INDEFINITE ARTICLE, A.  IN GENERAL, MOST MODERN CHRISTIAN TRANSLATORS (GENERALLY, REPRESENTED BY CATEGORY I) HAVE RENDERED THE NOUN   (ALMAH) CORRECTLY.

THE CHRISTIAN TRANSLATIONS ARE GENERALLY INCONSISTENT IN THEIR RENDITIONS OF THE TENSE OF THE CONJUGATED VERB   (HARAH) IN THIS VERSE – SOME USE THE PROPER TENSE, WHILE OTHERS TREAT THE CONCEPTION AS AN EVENT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE (DISTANT) FUTURE.

d. HEBREW TRANSLATIONS COMPARED WITH CHRISTIAN TRANSLATIONS

SUCH COMPARISON IS NOT MEANINGFUL DUE TO THE DIVERSITY WITHIN EACH SET OF TRANSLATIONS.  IN GENERAL, MOST MODERN CHRISTIAN TRANSLATIONS ARE CLOSER TO THE CORRECT HEBREW TRANSLATIONS, I.E., THOSE THAT RENDER THE NOUN   (HA'ALMAH) AS THE YOUNG WOMAN OR THE MAIDEN, AND   (HARAH) AS IS WITH CHILD.  OLDER CHRISTIAN TRANSLATIONS GENERALLY USE VIRGIN, A TERM THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED THE HEBREW TERM FOR A VIRGIN,   (BETULAH), WITHOUT THE DEFINITE ARTICLE, TO BE IN THE ORIGINAL HEBREW TEXT OF ISAIAH 7:14.
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And do not fool yourself that I like these "exchanges".

I only humored you (and soon will ignore you) because I looked at your previous posts and noticed everyone got tired and moved on. Not because you had legitimate points but simply cos they got fed up. I see no cohesion in an argument that attacks everything and anything without having basis for such. Most of your posts are puerile, adolescent and geared towards ridiculing people who were sincerely discussing their faiths. Yet you openly claim you have chosen not to live as though the Laws existed.

Then what are you doing here defending what you do not even live trying to ridicule the faith of people trying to live up to their conception of God?

You should be in a bar/brothel living the life you claim you've chosen. Or are you afraid and screaming silently for help from Jesus? from NL? from Anyone?

I know what is burning you up, the fact that you're never run into anyone  like me, If you have please state their names and quote their post


It is really funny to see you fight yourself over verses tha are in your own Bible

Isa 7:14 Therefore YAHAWAH Himself shall give you a sign: Behold, the young woman is with child, and she will bear a son, and shall call his name ‘Immanu-Yah’.

Isa 7:16 For before the Child shall know to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land that you dread will be forsaken by both her kings

Let us apply this to your Jesus, The only land they could have dreaded in his so called time would have been Rome, So before Jesus grew up to know the diff b/w good and evil Rome would have bee forsaken by her 2 kingS?

Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!! LMAO, Please show from historical records when Rome was forsaken by her 2 kings b4 Jesus became a Man that should keep your dullard brain active for a minute!!!

@OLAADEGBU

.  I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any other gods before me .
          I'm God.  Don't play me.



2.  Thou shalt not have any graven images
           Don't be makin no hood ornaments and charms out of me, or like me.



3.  Thou shalt not use the name of the Lord thy God in vain
         Don't be callin' me for no reason.



4.  Remember to keep the Sabbath day holy
          Y'all betta be in church on Sunday, and not just the Sundays when it's Mother's day, Easter and Christmas



5.  Honour thy father and thy mother
          Don't Diss or cuss out yo momma,  and if you know who ya daddy is, don't Diss him neither.



6.  Thou shalt not kill
          Don't be goin' on no drive bys.



7.  Thou shalt not commit adultery     
          Stick to ya own Boo.



8.  Thou shalt not steal
          Don't be borrow'n stuff and don't give it back.

 

9.  Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy brother
          Don't be snitchin' on the otha' man to save your behind.



10.  Thou shalt not covet anything that belongs to thy brother.
            Don't be eyein' (skeeming) yo homie's crib, ride, woman, or nuffin.

Now you're just being silly

Yisraylite:
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And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all His ways, and to love Him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul, To keep the commandments of the LORD, and His statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?

(Deuteronomy 10:12-13)

You can post them , but you don't do them  Wow!! aren't you being hypocritical?   


There is something definitely wrong with your brain , You need to leave Jesus alone and come back home Bro because I can see you know the Truth, You've just wilfully chosen to reject it

Now what Question did you ask me ,please repost

@ slowpoke

Rather be a daftron than an slowpoke

Sticks and stones

@ KunleOshob, If you werent being insulting, you would have gotten an apology from me

Now let me see you wiggle out of this one from your own book:

Mat 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. 
Mar 13:32 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father


   if your Jesus is the same as your God/Father, then He should have this information of when he is coming back

@ nuclearboy

Where is the answer to my question? Is this supposed to be a way out of answering a question? 

The "OT" book of Isaiah in 7:14 and 9:6 details the birth of "a man" who also would be known as the Mighty God. Is the MIGHTY GOD superman or wait - oh maybe "Yisrael" is the Messiah. That would explain why people from Yisrael go around with halos over their pates and white doves attending to their every need! That answers your daft question.

  you need to catch up silly kid! I already anwsered your question in a diff thread

The "OT" book of Isaiah in 7:14 and 9:6 details the birth of "a man" who also would be known as the Mighty God.

My Answer https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-362105.160.html#msg5200812

You are right Yisrayl is the Messiah to the Nations, 

Deu 4:6 Therefore be careful to observe [them]; for this [is] your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the peoples who will hear all these statutes, and say, 'Surely this great nation [is] a wise and understanding people.' 


Deu 4:7 "For what great nation [is there] that has YAHAWAH [so] near to it, as YAHAWAH our FATHER [is] to us, for whatever [reason] we may call upon Him? 


Deu 4:8 And what great nation [is there] that has [such] statutes and righteous judgments as are in all this law which I set before you this day

Isa 49:1 "Listen, O coastlands, to Me(Yisra’yl), And take heed, you peoples from afar! YAHAWAH (YHWH) has called Me from the womb; From the matrix of My mother He has
made mention of My name (Yisra’yl).

Isa 49:2 And He has made My mouth like a sharp sword; In the shadow of His hand He has hidden Me, And made Me a polished shaft; In His quiver He has hidden Me."

Isa 49:3 "And HE (Yahawah) said to me, 'You are My Servant, O Yisra’yl, In whom I will be glorified


Isa 43:10   You (Yisra’yl)  are My witnesses, says YAHAWAH (YHWH), and My servant whom I have chosen: that you may know and believe Me, and understand that I Am He: before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

Isa 50:4 "YHWH(Yahawah) THE FATHER has given Me (Yisra’yl)The tongue of the learned, That I should know how to speak A word in season to him who is weary. He awakens Me morning by morning, He awakens My ear To hear as the learned.

Isa 63:12 Who led [them] by the right hand of Masha, With His glorious arm, Dividing the water before them To make for Himself an Everlasting NAME

I must get under your skin so much that you have to keep hurling insults at me, oh well YAHAWAH has given us choices ,your choice 

@ kristonium

You're welcome Bro!

@KunleOshob

You are really a bad disciple of your Jesus,I guess he taught you to hurl insults at people when you're unable to defend your position my my  what anger and hatred!!

The Jewish religion[Judaism] based on the torah was striclty meant for the children of Israel only and not impostors who claim to be Yisraylites

Have a little shame man! to openly parade your ignorance of the scriptures like this is beyond me

Pro 12:16 A fool's wrath is known at once, But a prudent [man] covers shame. 

Pro 13:16 Every prudent [man] acts with knowledge, But a fool lays open [his] folly


The Jewish religion[Judaism] uses the Talmud and kabbalah and picks and chooses from the Torah! just like you christians use the new testament while picking and choosing what you want from the Torah(OT)This is the brainwashing I keep on referring to! I guess in your brain Moses, Abraham, Solomon were all Europeans

Bro, I'm not a Jew   Jews are from Europe 

Masha,Musa or Moses was born an African in Egypt, He then married an African(an Ethiopian woman)

Yisrayl is located in North east Africa now called the middle East,

Gen 13:1 Then Abram went up from Egypt, he and his wife and all that he had, and Lot with him, to the South

What country is south of Egypt? Sudan or from Gen 2:11 called Havilah

Gen 2:11   The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which skirts the whole land of Hawalah(Havilah), where there is gold.

Gen 25:18 (They dwelt from Havilah as far as Shur, which [is] east of Egypt as you go toward Assyria.) He died in the presence of all his brethren. 


Gen 25:19 This [is] the genealogy of Isaac, Abraham's son. Abraham begot Isaac

Ab-ra -ham's sons dwelt from Havilah(Sudan) to Shur, Our ancestors were no Europeans and definitely no Jews


Sgs 1:5 I [am] dark, but lovely, O daughters of Yahrushalayim, Like the tents of Kedar, Like the curtains of Solomon. 


Sgs 1:6 Do not look upon me, because I [am] dark, Because the sun has tanned me. My mother's sons were angry with me; They made me the keeper of the vineyards, [But] my own vineyard I have not kept

Go and read your torah very well fake Israelites like you were not allowed to worship yahawah as he is not considered your God

1, Exd 12:49 One law shall be for the native-born(Yisraylite) and for the stranger(Gentile) who dwells among you."


Lev 24:22 You shall have the same law for the stranger and for one from your own country; for I [am] YAHAWAH your FATHER.' " 

Num 15:16 One law and one custom shall be for you and for the stranger who dwells with you.'"


Zec 14:16
And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Yahrushalayim shall go up from year to year to worship the King, YAHAWAH of Hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles


The Creator's Laws are given to all mankind, you don't have to be a Jew,christian or moslem in order to show love to your brothers or sisters by observing The Law in the Original Testament , cos the Most high never gave mankind any religion,   

Isa 66:23   And it shall come to pass that from one New Moon to another,and from one Sabbath to another, ALL FLESH shall come to worship before Me," says YAHAWAH.

Ecc 12:13   Here is the conclusion: Reverence YAHAWAH and obey HIS Commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.

(Not  Hebrew, Moslem, Christian or Jew, but all mankind period!) 


I wonder what book you reading 

As to the issue of confusion, Nuclearboy says your Jesus is your Father and God, while you say your Jesus is the son of your God and not the Creator/Father,so I wonder who are the confused ones here

Funny how you avoided this one

@nuclearboy

Hello nuclearboy, I have a feeling you like our exchanges

Hello again, Yisraylite! 

Could you please read Isa 7:14 (9:16 of the same book shows explicitly who God says He is) of your original testament? In the above, you state that it is Yisrael named as God's Son.

Isa 7:14 Therefore YAHAWAH Himself shall give you a sign: Behold, the young woman is with child, and she will bear a son, and shall call his name ‘Immanu-Yah’.

Isa 7:16 For before the Child shall know to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land that you dread will be forsaken by both her kings

Isa 8:3 Then I went to the prophetess, and she conceived and bore a son. Then YAHAWAH said to me, "Call his name Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz

Isa 8:4 for before the child shall have knowledge to cry 'My father' and 'My mother,' the riches of Damascus and the spoil of Samaria will be taken away before the king of Assyria." 


Isa 8:5 YAHAWAH also spoke to me again, saying: 


Isa 8:6 "Inasmuch as these people refused The waters of Shiloah that flow softly, And rejoice in Rezin and in Remaliah's son; 


Isa 8:7 Now therefore, behold, YAHAWAH brings up over them The waters of the River, [fn] strong and mighty-- The king of Assyria and all his glory; He will go up over all his channels And go over all his banks. 


Isa 8:8 He will pass through Yahadah, He will overflow and pass over, He will reach up to the neck; And the stretching out of his wings Will fill the breadth of Your land, O Immanu-Yah (YHWH is with us) 


Isa 8:9 "Be shattered, O you peoples, and be broken in pieces! Give ear, all you from far countries. Gird yourselves, but be broken in pieces; Gird yourselves, but be broken in pieces. 


Isa 8:10 Take counsel together, but it will come to nothing; Speak the word, but it will not stand, For YAHAWAH [is] with us (Immanu-Yah)


I hope you don't think you can get away with creating one verse doctrines, You have to see that verse in its full context!!!


THE SEVENTH CHAPTER IN THE BOOK OF ISAIAH BEGINS BY DESCRIBING THE MILITARY CRISIS THAT WAS CONFRONTING KING AHAZ OF THE KINGDOM OF JUDAH.  AROUND THE YEAR 732 B.C.E., THE HOUSE OF DAVID WAS FACING IMMINENT DESTRUCTION AT THE HANDS OF TWO WARRING KINGDOMS: THE NORTHERN KINGDOM OF ISRAEL, LED BY KING PEQAH, AND THE KINGDOM OF SYRIA (ARAM), LED BY KING RETSIN. THESE TWO ARMIES HAD BESIEGED JERUSALEM.  ISAIAH RECORDS THAT THE HOUSE OF DAVID AND KING AHAZ WERE GRIPPED WITH FEAR.  YHWH SENT THE PROPHET ISAIAH TO REASSURE KING AHAZ THAT DIVINE PROTECTION WAS AT HAND YHWH WOULD PROTECT HIM AND HIS KINGDOM AND THAT THEIR DELIVERANCE WAS ASSURED, AND THESE TWO HOSTILE ARMIES WOULD FAIL IN THEIR ATTEMPT TO SUBJUGATE JERUSALEM.

IT IS CLEAR FROM THE NARRATIVE IN THIS CHAPTER, THAT ISAIAH’S DECLARATION (IS 7:14-16) WAS A PROPHECY ABOUT THE UNSUCCESSFUL SIEGE OF JERUSALEM BY THE TWO ARMIES FROM THE NORTH.  THE VERSES ISAIAH 7:15-16 STATE THAT, BY THE TIME THIS CHILD (WHOSE IMMINENT BIRTH WAS FORETOLD IN ISAIAH 7:14) REACHES THE AGE OF MATURITY (“… HE KNOWS TO REJECT BAD AND CHOOSE GOOD …”), THE KINGS OF THE TWO ENEMY NATIONS WILL BE GONE, IN FACT, THEY WILL BE KILLED.  TWO BIBLICAL PASSAGES, 2 KINGS 15:29-30 AND 2 KINGS 16:9, CONFIRM THAT THIS PROPHECY WAS CONTEMPORANEOUSLY FULFILLED WHEN THESE TWO KINGS WERE ASSASSINATED.  WITH AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONTEXT OF ISAIAH 7:14 ALONE, IT IS EVIDENT THAT THE NAME OF THE CHILD IN ISAIAH 7:14, IMMANU'YAH, IS A SIGN WHICH POINTS TO THE DIVINE PROTECTION THAT KING AHAZ AND HIS PEOPLE WOULD ENJOY FROM THEIR OTHERWISE CERTAIN DEMISE AT THE HANDS OF THESE TWO ENEMIES.  CLEARLY, ISAIAH 7:14 IS A NEAR-TERM PROPHECY THAT IS PART OF AN HISTORIC NARRATIVE, AND WHICH WAS FULFILLED IN THE IMMEDIATE TIME FRAME, NOT SOME SEVEN-AND-A-HALF CENTURIES IN THE FUTURE.

If you can't grasp this ,it would be a waste of my time to continue on to Isa 9:16

@KunleOshob

This thread as turned into another battle ground for nuclear boy and our confused "Jew" Yisraylite. The purpose of the thread is to explain the good news in better perspective using today's language and terminologies so that we can understand and relate to it better. But trust nairalanders to de-rail any thread

it never seizes to amaze me the dishonesty and unrighteousness you potray when you make comments like this

This thread as turned into another battle ground for nuclear boy and our confused "Jew" Yisraylite

Even though nuclearboy and I are rolling,yet I'm the one you've chosen to insult well I did not expect any different from you

As to the issue of confusion, Nuclearboy says your Jesus is your Father and God, while you say your Jesus is the son of your God and not the Creator/Father,so I wonder who are the confused ones here

@ nuclearboy

Num 23:19 says He is not a man that should lie. Key word - LIE.

My post did not say He lied. It said He answered another name. Would you like other examples from the OT of differing names/titles applied to the same GOD? Your other point would be He was a man. But remember, whist I am reading your post, you are not the letters I'm seeing -they just represent you. Jehovah retains the right to represent Himself in whatever form He wishes. That does not make Him that form!

Your Keyword is LIE, but don't forget The Creator says HE IS NOT A MAN, cos  MEN LIE!!!!, And in the Christian fable your Jesus was some kind of Superman 

Prove that your last quote - Mal 2:2 "If you will not hear, And if you will not take it to heart, To give glory to My Name," Says YAHAWAH of hosts, "I will send a curse upon you, And I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have cursed them already, because you do not take it to heart." does not refer to Jesus

I guess in your twisted mind Your Jesus and your God are ONE AND THE SAME! yet your Boy KunleOshob seems to disagree with you

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@yisraylite
I have never claimed in any of my posts that Jesus is the creator, the bible is clear on him being the son of the almighty creator God whether you like it or not.

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Tithing scams thrive becos a few good christians fail to speak the truth

You guys should get your stories together, unless you believe in a different Jesus than he does,

Now let me see you wiggle out of this one from your own book:

Mat 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. 
Mar 13:32 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father


if your Jesus is the same as your God/Father, then He should have this information of when he is coming back

@ Krayola

Invented Christianity? How does the church invent something that preceded it's existence?

The Greco Romans worship of Mithras preceeded christianity, Whose divine figure Mithra was also claimed to be born on dec 25th

It is argued that, as the story of the incarnation of the Christians' Savior is of more recent date than those of the oriental and the ancient religions ( as is conceded by Christians themselves), the origin of the former is thus indicated and foreshadowed as being an outgrowth from, if not a plagiarism upon the latter - a borrowed copy, of which the pagan stories furnish the original.  Here, then, we observe a rivalship of claims, as to which of the remarkable personages who have figured in the world of Saviors, Messiahs, and Sons of God, in different ages and different countries, can be considered the true Savior and "sent of God;" or whether all should be, or the claims of all rejected.

For researchers in oriental history reveal the remarkable fact that stories of incarnate Gods answering to and resembling the miraculous character of Jesus Christ have been prevalent in most if not all the principal religious heathen nations of antiquity; and the accounts and narrations of some of these deific incarnations bear such a striking resemblance to that of the Christian Savior - not only in their general features, but in some cases the most minute details, from the legend of the immaculate conception to that of the crucifixion, and subsequent ascension into heaven - that one might almost be mistaken for another.

More than twenty claims of this kind - claims of being invested with divine honor (deified) - have come forward and presented themselves at the bar of the world, with their credentials, to contest the verdict of Christendom, in having proclaimed Jesus Christ, "the only son, and sent of God:" twenty Messiahs, Saviors, and Sons of God, according to history or tradition, have in past times, descended from heaven, and taken upon themselves the form of men, clothing themselves with human flesh, and furnishing incontestable evidence of a divine origin, by various miracles, marvelous works, and superlative virtues; and finally these twenty Jesus Christs (accepting their character of the name) laid the foundation for the salvation of the world, and ascended back to heaven:


Krishna of Hindostan
    -Buddha Sakia of India
    -Salivahana of Bermuda
    -Zulis, or Zhule, also Osiris and
           Orus, of Egypt
    -Odin of the Scandinavians
    -Crite of Chaldea
    -Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia
    -Baal and Taut, "the only
           Begotten of God," of Phoenicia
    -Indra of Tibet
    -Bali of Afghanistan
    -Jao of Nepal
    -Wittoba of the Bilingonese
    -Thammuz of Syria
    -Atys of Phrygia
    -Xamolxis of Thrace
    -Zoar of the Bonzes
    -Adad of Assyria
    -Deva Tat, and Sammonocadam of Siam
    -Alcides of Thebes
    -Mikado of the Sintoos
    -Beddru of Japan
    -Hesus of Eros, and Bremrillah,
            of the Druids
    -Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls
    -Cadmus of Greece
    -Hil and Feta of the Mandaites
    -Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico
    -Universal Monarch of the Sibyls
    -Ischy of the Island of Formosa
    -Divine Teacher of Plato
    -Holy One of Xaca
    -Fohi and Tien of China
    -Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece
    -Ixion and Quirnus of Rome
    -Prometheus of Caucasus
    -Mohammed, or Mahomet, of Arabia

Candid Confessions of the Catholic Church!

"The Catholic Church for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her Divine mission, changed the day [of worship] from Saturday to Sunday. , The Christian Sabbath is therefore to this day the acknowledged offspring of the Catholic Church, as Spouse of the Holy Ghost, without a word of remonstrance from the Protestant world." Editorial, The Catholic Mirror (Baltimore), September 23, 1893.

@ Deep Sight

Yisraylite. . .what is your position please? I have been reading your interesting views. Are you a Jew (Judaist)?

Bro, I'm not a Jew  Jews are from Europe  

Masha,Musa or Moses was born an African in Egypt

Yisrayl is located in North east Africa now called the middle East,

Gen 13:1 Then Abram went up from Egypt, he and his wife and all that he had, and Lot with him, to the South

What country is south of Egypt? Sudan or from Gen 2:11 called Havilah

Gen 2:11   The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which skirts the whole land of Hawalah(Havilah), where there is gold.

Gen 25:18 (They dwelt from Havilah as far as Shur, which [is] east of Egypt as you go toward Assyria.) He died in the presence of all his brethren.  


Gen 25:19 This [is] the genealogy of Isaac, Abraham's son. Abraham begot Isaac

Ab-ra -ham's sons dwelt from Havilah(Sudan) to Shur, Our ancestors were no Europeans and definitely no Jews

The Creator's Laws are given to all mankind, you don't have to be a Jew,christian or moslem in order to show love to your brothers or sisters by observing The Law in the Original Testament , cos the Most high never gave mankind any religion,

Isa 66:23   And it shall come to pass that from one New Moon to another,and from one Sabbath to another, ALL FLESH shall come to worship before Me," says YAHAWAH.

Ecc 12:13   Here is the conclusion: Reverence YAHAWAH and obey HIS Commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.

(Not  Hebrew, Moslem, Christian or Jew, but all mankind period!)  


@ Krayola

What are u critiquing? the Institution, or the faith of the individual Christian?

I'm just sheding some light on the deeds of the Great Mother church, I believe they invented christianity and that's why  a pope could make such statements, and as a pope Leo X was difinitely an insider and knew some of the papacy's secrets

@ nuclearboy

And I'm onto you like white on rice. Go figure!

Now, substitute Yeshua (Jesus) for YAHAWAH in every one of your torah quotes! The idea is that Yeshua/YAHAWAH chooses how He manifests. Have you done that? Lets see you now prove the names are not interchangable. John 1:1 says they are. Satan's only problem with anything is Jesus and a valid means of salvation. Argue your daddy's case

Common  I thought you could really do better than that

The idea is that Yeshua/YAHAWAH chooses how He manifests

Wow!! without much shame you openly parade your ignorance and lack of understanding


Num 23:19   YAHAWAH is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

1Sa 15:29  And also the Strength of Yisrayl will not lie nor relent. For AYAH (I AM) is not a man, that He should relent."

Your ficticious Jesus was a man/god who was murdered by his own creation wow!!

You should ceckout this thread:https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-372231.0.html#msg5194404

It was Pope Leo X who made the most infamous and damaging statement about Christianity in the history of the Church. His declaration revealed to the world papal knowledge of the Vatican's false presentation of Jesus Christ and unashamedly exposed the puerile nature of the Christian religion. At a lavish Good Friday banquet in the Vatican in 1514, and in the company of "seven intimates" (Annales Ecclesiastici, Caesar Baronius, Folio Antwerp, 1597, tome 14), Leo made an amazing announcement that the Church has since tried hard to invalidate.



Raising a chalice of wine into the air, Pope Leo toasted:

"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us and our predecessors."

one of the old leaders and Popes of your christian religion calls your belief a profitable superstition this fable of Christ