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Later, John Bale (1495-1563) seized upon Pope Leo's confession and the subsequent Vatican admission that the pope had spoken the truth about the "fable of Christ"
and "put forward this knowledge truly" (Annales Ecclesiastici, ibid.). Bale was an Englishman who had earlier joined the Carmelites but abandoned the order after the
Inquisition slaughtered his family (Of the Five Plagues of the Church [originally titled The Five Wounds of the Church], Count Antonio Rosmini [Catholic priest and papal
adviser], 1848, English trans. by Prof. David L. Wilhelm, Russell Square Publishing, London, 1889). He became a playwright and in 1538 developed lampooning pantomimes
to mock the pretended godliness of the Catholic Church and "parodied its rites and customs on stage" (The Complete Plays of John Bale, ed. Peter Happé, Boydell & Brewer,
Cambridge, 1985). After the public disclosure of the hollow nature of Christianity, "people were rejoicing that the papacy and the Church had come to an end" (Of the Five Plagues of the Church, op. cit.), but later Christian historians acrimoniously referred to the popular theatrical production as "that abominable satire", dishonestly claiming that it was the origin of Pope Leo's frank admission (De Antiqua Ecclesiae Disciplina, Bishop Louis Dupin [Catholic historian], Paris folio, 1686).

A favorite satire that developed around him was called the "Gospel according to Marks and Silver", which said:

"In those days, Pope Leo said to the clergy: 'When Jesus the Son of Man shall come to the seat of our Majesty, say first of all, 'Friend, wherefore art Thou come hither? And if He gives you naught in silver or gold, cast Him forth into outer darkness.'"
(A History of the Popes, Dr Joseph McCabe, ibid., vol. 2, chapter on "The Age of Power"

It was Pope Leo X who made the most infamous and damaging statement about Christianity in the history of the Church. His declaration revealed to the world papal knowledge of the Vatican's false presentation of Jesus Christ and unashamedly exposed the puerile nature of the Christian religion. At a lavish Good Friday banquet in the Vatican in 1514, and in the company of "seven intimates" (Annales Ecclesiastici, Caesar Baronius, Folio Antwerp, 1597, tome 14), Leo made an amazing announcement that the Church has since tried hard to invalidate.



Raising a chalice of wine into the air, Pope Leo toasted:

"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us and our predecessors."



The pope's pronouncement is recorded in the diaries and records of both Pietro Cardinal Bembo (Letters and Comments on Pope Leo X, 1842 reprint) and Paolo Cardinal Giovio (De Vita Leonis Decimi, , op. cit.), two associates who were witnesses to it.


Caesar (Cardinal) Baronius (1538-1607) was Vatican librarian for seven years and wrote a 12-volume history of the Church, known as Annales Ecclesiastici. He was the Church's most outstanding historian (Catholic Encyclopedia, New Edition, 1976, ii, p. 105) and his records provide vital inside information for anybody studying the rich depth of falsification in Christianity.



Cardinal Baronius, who turned down two offers to become pope in 1605, added the following comments about Pope Leo's declaration:

"The Pontiff has been accused of atheism, for he denied God and called Christ, in front of cardinals Pietro Bembo, Jovius and Iacopo Sadoleto and other intimates, 'a fable' ,  it must be corrected".
(Annales Ecclesiastici, op. cit., tomes viii and xi)

In an early edition of the Catholic Encyclopedia (Pecci ed., iii, pp. 312-314, passim), the Church devoted two-and-half pages in an attempt to nullify the most destructive statement ever made by the head of Christianity. It based the essence of its argument on the assumption that what the pope meant by "profitable" was "gainful", and "fable" was intended to mean "tradition".



Hence, confused Catholic theologians argued that what the pope really meant was,

"How well Christians have gained from this wonderful tradition of Christ".

But that isn't what he said.


It is from Christianity's own records that Pope Leo's statement became known to the world. In his diaries, Cardinal Bembo, the Pope's secretary for seven years, added that Leo:

", was known to disbelieve Christianity itself. He advanced contrary to the faith and that in condemning the Gospel, therefore he must be a heretic; he was guilty of sodomy with his chamberlains; was addicted to pleasure, luxury, idleness, ambition, unchastity and sensuality; and spent his whole days in the company of musicians and buffoons. His Infallibility's drunkenness was proverbial, he practiced incontinency as well as inebriation, and the effects of his crimes shattered the people's constitution."
(Letters and Comments on Pope Leo X, ibid.)

For more visit http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican30c.htm

@ nuclearboy

Before you leave this page, start your "persecution" thus

No more smileys. No more sarcasm. No more insults. Lets now use your TRUTH if indeed it is truth and doesn't require crutches to make you feel good

Prove that your last quote - Mal 2:2 "If you will not hear, And if you will not take it to heart, To give glory to My Name," Says YAHAWAH of hosts, "I will send a curse upon you, And I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have cursed them already, because you do not take it to heart." does not refer to Jesus.

The one thing I expect is for you to ask where the name Jesus Christ appears in the OT or in that quote. Don't try that except if you can show me YAHAWAH in Jhn 6:54. Lets see you apply your rules to yourself

As you are wont to say,

Salamah

Yaramyah (Jeremiah) 23:26-27 How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophecy lies? Yea, they are Prophets of deceit of their own heart (Jer 17:9)  which think to cause My people to Forget My NAME  YAHAWAH(YHWH)  by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbor, as their fathers have forgotten My NAME for BA’-AL.( LORD)

Ex 3:6 Moreover He said, "'AYAH (I AM) The FATHER of your father-- The FATHER of Abraham, The FATHER of Yahtzak(Isaac), and The FATHER of Yahqob(Jacob)." And Masha (Moses) hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon YAHAWAH

Ex 3:13 Then Masha (Moses) said to YAHAWAH, "Indeed, when I come to the children of Yisrayl and say to them, The FATHER of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they say to me, 'What is His name?' what shall I say to them?"

The meaning of The Creator's NAME YAHAWAH (YHWH) can be found in the Book of Exodus (Wa-alah Shamot) Chapter 3:14

AYAH ASHAR AYAH in Amharic or Ancient Hebrew– I AM WHO I AM AND I CAUSE TO BE WHAT WILL BE

Ex 3:14 And YAHAWAH said to Masha (Moses) "AYAH ASHAR AYAH (I AM WHO I AM AND I CAUSE TO BE WHAT WILL BE)." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Yisrayl, 'AYAH (I AM) has sent me to you.' " 

Ex 3:15 Moreover YAHAWAH said to Masha(Moses), "Thus you shall say to the children of Yisrayl: YAHAWAH The FATHER of your fathers, The FATHER of Abraham, The FATHER of Yahtzak, and The FATHER of Yahqob, has sent me to you. This is My NAME forever, and this is My memorial to all generations

Bros NO JESUS in Here!


Does the Letter “J” exist in Hebrew, Latin or Greek?

The answer to this question is no. In fact, there was no letter ‘J’ in  any language prior to the 14th century in England. The letter did not become widely used until the 17th century.

The Encyclopedia Americana contains the following quote on the J: “The form of ‘J’ was unknown in any alphabet until the 14th century. Either symbol (J,I) used initially generally had the consonantal sound of Y as in year. Gradually, the two symbols (J,l) were differentiated, the J usually acquiring consonantal force and thus becoming regarded as a consonant, and the I becoming a vowel.

It was not until 1630 that the differentiation became general in England.” Note in the original 1611 version of the King James Version of the Bible there was no “J” letter in this Bible for because it did not exist. James was spelled Iames. Jesus was spelled Iesous.

In the Hebrew alphabet there is no J letter or sound and it is shown follow: Read form right to left.”

In the King James Version of the Bible,  Psalm 68:4 clearly reveals  that the shortened  form of the Father’s name is “Jah.”  King David writes: “Sing to God, sing praises to His name; Extol Him who rides on the clouds, By His name JAH…” Since there is no j in Hebrew then “Jah” should be spelled Yah or Iah.

The error of changing Yah to Yeh is due to the manmade tradition of the Jewish priests. Their reverence for the holy name caused them to believe that it was too sacred to pronounce.  So they changed the vowel points from a to e in the Tetragrammaton YHWH. This changes the pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton. The letter “a” was the correct vowel to be inserted between the YH obtaining YaH.

@ nuclearboy

@yisraylite:

Okay, so now I am your life.

To help, you'll find me at AUTOS, RELIGION and BUSINESS.

Yeap! Bro I'm on you like stew on rice! untill you come home to YAHAWAH your Father's House 

Yer 6:10 To whom shall I speak and give warning, That they may hear? Indeed their ear is uncircumcised, and they cannot give heed. Behold, the LAW of YAHAWAH is a reproach to them; They have no delight in it

Eze 18:21   "But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die.

Eze 18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies," says YAHAWAH. "Therefore turn and live!" 

Bro's turn away from the Roman catholic vatican created Jesus the Son of God and Mary the mother of God AND LIVE !!!!

Salamah!!!

@nuclearboy

You want me to stand up for what I believe in, right?

Prove that Is 43:11, Is 45:21, Titus 3:6 and Titus 2:13 do not speak of the same entity. In effect, prove that Jesus is not Jehovah from those scriptures. You used them to support a position. Now PROVE (spelt  P R O V E) from these what you claim so we move from theories to FACTS. Don't ask me where the name Jesus is in the OT except if you can first show me the exact word Jehovah in Titus 2:13.

No more saving face. No more daft smileys to cover the holes and pass across an impression of success. Use what you expect of me on yourself. I await

You are being intellectually dishonest Bro! the thread can bare witness that I've answered pretty much most of the questions you've asked yet you can not answer mine?

Seriously Dude you can't answer a question by asking another question, so my question still stands

Yisraylite:
@ nuclearboy

Yeap that pretty much sums it up my point of view? wow! you really dissapoint me, everything I have quoted is in your Bible, The NAME of THE CREATOR may have been replaced with Lord God, but the writtings are the same, Open your eyes Bro and quit being stiffnecked!

There can be only one right account so which one do you believe?

Your reasoning here is on the level of an elementry school kid  

Don't ask me where the name Jesus is in the OT except if you can first show me the exact word Jehovah in Titus 2:13.

That would be like saying You were born  before your Father who existed before you doesn't make  a lick of sense

@OLAADEGBU

If you care so much about the commandments of God it will be better to think on how it applies to your life as I have suggested in the link that you have ignored.

Pitiful You either do YHWH's Commandments or you don't,your reasoning is simply flawed,

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And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all His ways, and to love Him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul, To keep the commandments of the LORD, and His statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?

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You can post them , but you don't do them  Wow!! aren't you being hypocritical?   

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And keep the charge of the LORD thy God, to walk in His ways, to keep His statutes, and His commandments, and His judgments, and His testimonies, as it is written in the law of Moses, that thou mayest prosper in all that thou doest, and whithersoever thou turnest thyself:

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There is something definitely wrong with your brain , You need to leave Jesus alone and come back home Bro because I can see you know the Truth, You've just wilfully chosen to reject it

@OLAADEGBU

@ OLAADEGBU


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This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

(Joshua 1:8 )

Wow!!!   

It sure seems like it departed from your mouth, cos now you're meditating on a book that is not the Book of the Law( the new Testament) Wow! it never ceases to amaze me 
The same Book of The Law Says:

Isa 43:11   I, even I, am YAHAWAH, and besides Me there is no savior. (so much for Jesus Christ a.k.a  Ea-Zeus Christos)

Isa 45:21 Tell and bring forth your case; Yes, let them take counsel together. Who has declared this from ancient time? Who has told it from that time? Have not I, YAHAWAH? And there is no other source of power besides Me, A Just Father and a SAVIOR; There is none besides Me

So Mr OLAADEGBU Why have you forsaken the True Savior who is the Creator and now taken Jesus for your savior?

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Please, forget your arguments, repent and put your trust in Jesus and be saved from God's wrath

So Mr OLAADEGBU Why have you forsaken the True Savior who is the Creator and now taken Jesus for your savior?

@na2day?

finally the terrorists have appeared, dont u guys have anything better to do, like blow up a plane? IDIOTS! ! !

Your parents must be the idiots for having you 

@ olabowale

which Lord; Father Jehovah/Jahweh, or son Jesus/Messiah or Ghost/Spirit? One please not three and you know there will be dissention if its more than One, especially if each has 100% authority, and can act independently. If not, then there you have your problem of worshipping many gods.

nice one Bro! down to the nitty gritty

@nuclearboy


everyone can openly see you for who you are,  you must be some kind of homosexual to bring impotence and what not into the conversation, thinking of another man sex life wow what ah flaming batty man! No other way out? maybe cos you're getting the snot kicked right out of you? looks like despiration to me


I guess standing for the Truth in your estimation is showing vituperation, wow you're really more pitiful than I thought, that's that  pride Bro It's amazing what it can do to people's egos, when you can't find any facts to stand on, you automatically result to cheap insults 

It's really easy to be a bad man behind your computer screen, talking all that shit, oh well that's your choice, I bet if you met me on the streets you would definitely rethink your strategies with your weak ass 

The true mark of a real man is to know when he is wrong and make right with his brother or sister, I guess your Jesus never thought you that lesson . oh well your choice, so from now on I 'm gonna hunt you on nairaland till you're destroyed, so you better be weary of your every post silly little kid

NB no amount of calling on Jesus is gonna help you get out of this one

LMAO!!!!!!!

@nuclearboy

That was rather obvious from the onset.

A Christian wouldn't deny Christ, would he? That was why I sounded you out by calling you "Jew" or your memory doesn't serve you that far back? Whatever you call yourself, Christian cannot be applied to you.

Also, Chukwudi44 isn't a Christian. He's a Catholic, a son of that church. Which is why I said you'd join forces.

Isn't it instructive that its Christ that is always the problem. Maybe cos you all have the same father, the original liar!

Funny you speak of busting, fraud and lies. That is the trademark of your guiding spirit.

Your attempt at a comeback are rather pathetic and you be insulting me by calling a Christian

Silly Guy,It's quite typical for a Christian to try and classify people, Bro you can call me whatever, and it still won't make a difference to me, but when you curse YHWH, my Father its going be your backside

Mal 2:2 If you will not hear, And if you will not take it to heart, To give glory to My Name," Says YAHAWAH of hosts, "I will send a curse upon you, And I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have cursed them already, because you do not take it to heart.



You need to show Chukwudi44 some respect, Cos  he belongs to the Mother Church, the original Christians whose Vatican came up with everything you believe in Today and regard as holy doctrine, from the immaculate conception to the crucifixtion.  You are under the authority of the  Holy Roman Catholic church ,but still too daft to realize it

31 Candid Confessions of the Catholic Church!

"The Catholic Church for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her Divine mission, changed the day [of worship] from Saturday to Sunday. ,  The Christian Sabbath is therefore to this day the acknowledged offspring of the Catholic Church, as Spouse of the Holy Ghost, without a word of remonstrance from the Protestant world." Editorial, The Catholic Mirror (Baltimore), September 23, 1893.

By the way what version of chritianity do you subscribe to?

Bro you're simply a fraud! don't be mad cos you got busted

Who ever told you I was a christian, liar! liar ! pants on fire

Both you and Chukwudi44 are Christians at each other's throats, Wow! sounds like the christian love to me 

@ OLAADEGBU

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This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

(Joshua 1:8 )

Wow!!!

It sure seems like it departed from your mouth, cos now you're meditating on a book that is not the Book of the Law( the new Testament) Wow! it never ceases to amaze me 
The same Book of The Law Says:

Isa 43:11   I, even I, am YAHAWAH, and besides Me there is no savior. (so much for Jesus Christ a.k.a  Ea-Zeus Christos)

Isa 45:21 Tell and bring forth your case; Yes, let them take counsel together. Who has declared this from ancient time? Who has told it from that time? Have not I, YAHAWAH? And there is no other source of power besides Me, A Just Father and a SAVIOR; There is none besides Me

So Mr OLAADEGBU Why have you forsaken the True Savior who is the Creator and now taken Jesus for your savior?

Please, forget your arguments, repent and put your trust in Jesus and be saved from God's wrath

@kristonium

my friend,since u dont believe in the New Testament,i ve no business with u.the Canonical Scripture is not complete without the New Testament.The New Testament is a seal of the Holy Writ.

I thought as much , ain't the foundation of Christianity supposed to be built upon the so called old testament? The same one that says this

Yah 1:8   "This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth (TORAH-Instruction), but you shall meditate in it day and night, that you may observe to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

Gen 26:5 because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws." 

Psa 1:2   But his delight is in the law of YAHAWAH, And in His law he meditates day and night.

THE  NEW TESTAMENT IS NOT THE BOOK OF THE LAW! AND IN FACT PROMOTES THE OUT RIGHT HATRED OF THE CREATOR'S LAWS

Go figure

@ nuclearboy

Do I sense a tinge of hypocrisy and self righteousness here?

That is why I will not bother to call you names. Its obvious you're carrying multiple demons which have taken over the faculties in you that would otherwise have made you realize you've played so well into this threads purpose and shown everyone what drives you is power, lust and anger. You show no maturity, manners or upbringing. Rather, your demeanor is that of a demon whipped by Angels and who, needing to express its anger, bites itself in the arm to show its manliness.

All this after you finished insulting me in another thread WOw! your Jesus sure is teaching you how to love, this is the kind of love I never want to know or have, I wonder whose the angry one here you or chukwudi44

@ kristonium

Bro you came at me like this

no, don't stop!continue with your errors

without stating what those errors were or why you believed the post to be erroneous!
having said that , let me expound a bit more, Christianity's new testament IDs the serpent in genesis as the devil or satan a fallen angel,while the original testament proves this not to be the case!

The Serpent was a Ruler, a man and not any fallen angel

there is no record of Eve sleeping with anyone other than Adam!

Satan is not a fallen angel ,but a messenger of destruction appointed to that position by The Creator

my friend what is the point?why are u shying away from the New Testament? don't u believe in the New testament?

u need to answer all of these questions before i can join u in the so called duel.ok

I don't buy the new testament gibberish, so for more on that please readhttps://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-370843.0.html#msg5189288

If you're ready then we can roll, so you game?

@ Ogaga4Luv
Bro's I'm letting these people know that The Creator does not care about any human or animal blood sacfrice, All He is interested in is man to turn from doing wrong and start to do right by each other. He doesn't allow human sacrifice so how could he let His so called Son be sacrificed for the sins of everyone on this planet!

@ nuclearboy

Basically, you revile Jesus, believe the NT fake and its message false. Your quotes can be divided into two - those relating to the gentiles living inside Israel and those relating to everyone on Earth after God had split the curtain and stopped separating. The quotes you claim support your point of view and that you see as relating to the entirety of earth, Christians believe became available through Christ. You deny this! What then is the basis of our conversation? We believe in different things and neither of us will shift his ground.

Enjoy yourself looking for ways to sit in your comfort zone.

Yeap that pretty much sums it up my point of view? wow! you really dissapoint me, everything I have quoted is in your Bible, The NAME of THE CREATOR may have been replaced with Lord God, but the writtings are the same, Open your eyes Bro and quit being stiffnecked!

8, In the Original Testament, The Creator says there is none equal to HIm and none can be compared to HIM

Isa 40:25 "To whom then will you liken Me, Or to whom shall I be equal?" says the Holy One. 

Isa 46:5 "To whom will you liken Me, and make Me equal And compare Me, that we should be alike

Yet, Christianity teaches that Jesus Christ is equal to The Creator and is the co-creator of all (see John Chapter1:1) they also say when you see Jesus, then you've seen their God!

Phl 2:5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 

Phl 2:6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God

There can be only one right account so which one do you believe?


[QUOTE]5, The Original Testament says The Creator is our Savior

Isa 43:11   I, even I, am YAHAWAH, and besides Me there is no savior. (so much for Jesus Christ a.k.a  Ea-Zeus Christos)

Isa 45:21 Tell and bring forth your case; Yes, let them take counsel together. Who has declared this from ancient time? Who has told it from that time? Have not I, YAHAWAH? And there is no other source of power besides Me, A Just Father and a SAVIOR; There is none besides Me

Hsa 13:4 "Yet I am YAHAWAH your Father ever since the land of Egypt, And you will acknowledge no power or authority but Me; For there is no savior besides Me.

While the fake testament says Jesus is the savior

Tts 3:6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior

Tts 2:13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ [/QUOTE]

There can be only one right account so which one do you believe?


ARE YOU SUDDENLY GOING TO TRY TO SAVE FACE WITH THAT LAME EXCUSE YOU JUST GAVE IN YOUR  POST,STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE DUDE

@ OLAADEGBU

@Yisraylite,

I am not interested in your arguments   If you insist in continuing with your arguments then I suggest that you contact your soul mate ogaga4luv he seems to agree with most if not all of your posts.  I will rather advise you to sincerely and honestly answer the questions in this link and reflect over them because what you do with them will determine where you will spend your eternity.

I guess this is your way of trying to bow out gracefully

These posted scriptures that you can't refute have now become my arguements like I wrote them    It only exposes your christianity to be a fraud and one can only go so far in an attempt to defend a fraud, Sorry Bro you just ran into a solid brick wall one your overly emtional christianity will not be able to over come, It is called the TRUTH 

Psa 119:151 You [are] near, O YAHAWAH(YHWH), And all Your commandments [are] truth.

Psa 119:142 Your righteousness [is] an everlasting righteousness, And Your law [is] truth.

Psa 119:150 They draw near who follow after wickedness; They are far from Your law.

Psa 119:172 My tongue shall speak of Your word, For all Your commandments [are] righteousness.

Pro 6:23 For the commandment [is] a lamp, And the law a light; Reproofs of instruction [are] the way of life,

THIS IS WHAT THE ORIGINAL TESTAMENT TEACHES US !!! WHILE THIS IS WHAT YOUR NEW TESTAMENT TEACHES YOU

Jhn 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me

SIMPLY LAUGHABLE!!!

@ nuclearboy

So said nuclearboy " Mummy! Mummy! I 'don't want to play anymore ,I'm getting my backside kicked on the playground

Cat's got you tongue now so diversionary tactics are in play?

Dude, I named one old muslim chap here Voltron for his comic attempts to defend the indefensible. You, I re-christen "Daftron". I started out actually irritated at you. Your last post has me bent in half with laughter. I will not go down the path of verbose responses with you but I wonder

that's all you've got to say? utter foolishness? let me bring some more wisdom your way since you can not refute line by line all what I have posted

[1] Who were the people YAHAWAH was speaking to in your "ONLY" true testament?

I guess I'm now the authur of the Original Testament, please do not flatter me

1, Exd 12:49 One law shall be for the native-born(Yisraylite) and for the stranger(Gentile) who dwells among you."


Lev 24:22 You shall have the same law for the stranger and for one from your own country; for I [am] YAHAWAH your FATHER.' " 

Num 15:16 One law and one custom shall be for you and for the stranger who dwells with you.'"

Isa 66:23   And it shall come to pass that from one New Moon to another,and from one Sabbath to another, ALL FLESH shall come to worship before Me," says YAHAWAH.

ALL FLESH!!! NOT ONLY YISRAYLITES OR GENTILES, BUT EVRYONE ON THIS EARTH!!!!!

Ecc 12:13   Here is the conclusion: Reverence YAHAWAH and obey HIS Commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. (Not  Hebrew, Moslem, Christian or Jew, but all mankind period!)

[2] Did the promises YAHAWAH make therein include others outside His "then" called out people; Israel?

Deu 32:43 "Rejoice, O Gentiles, [with] His people; For He will avenge the blood of His servants, And render vengeance to His adversaries; He will provide atonement for His land [and] His people." 

Psa 117:1 Praise YAHAWAH, all you Gentiles! Laud Him, all you peoples!

Isa 11:10   "And in that day there shall be a Root of Yishai(King Dawad), Who shall stand as a banner to the people; For the Gentiles shall seek Him, and His resting place shall be glorious."

1 Sam 16:1 Then YAHAWAH said to Samuyl, "How long will you mourn for Shaul, seeing I have rejected him from being king over Yisrayl? Fill your horn with oil, and go; I am sending you to Yishai of Bethlehem. For I have provided Myself a king from among his sons."

Isa 11:1   There shall come forth a Rod from the stem of Yishai and a Branch shall grow out of his roots.

1Sa 17:12  Now Dawad was the son of that Ephrathite of Bethlehem Yahadah ( see Micah 5: 2 ), whose name was Yishai; and he had eight sons: and the man went among men for an old man in the days of Shaul.
1Sa 16:10   Thus Yishai made seven of his sons pass before Samuyl. And Samuyl said to Yishai, " YAHAWAH  has not chosen these."

1Sa 16:11   And Samuyl said to Yishai, "Are all the young men here?" Then he said, "There remains yet the youngest, and there he is, keeping the sheep." And Samuyl said to Yishai, "Send and bring him. For we will not sit down till he comes here."

1Sa 16:12   So he sent and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, with bright eyes, and good-looking. And YAHAWAH said, "ARISE,  ANOINT HIM; FOR THIS IS THE ONE!"

Isa 11:2   The Spirit of YAHAWAH shall rest upon Him, The Spirit of wisdom and understanding, The Spirit of counsel and might, The Spirit of knowledge and of the Reverence of YAHAWAH.

1Sa 16:13   Then Samuyl took the horn of oil and anointed him in the midst of his brothers; and the Spirit of  YAHAWAH came upon Dawad from that day forward. So Samuyl arose and went to Ramah

Isa 42:1 "Behold! My Servant whom I uphold, My Elect One [in whom] My soul delights! I have put My Spirit upon Him; He will bring forth justice to the Gentiles

[3] I remember you stating your being not a Jew. If so, what concerns your pagan YAHAWAH "cursed" a*se with the covenant and promises YAHAWAH gave His people, the Jews in the OT?

My! my !my! why the hostility and name calling, I see your true colors are starting to show

Jews are from Europe so how can I be a jew? I guess it's the same as having black christians, people who have converted to the caucasian man's traditions and culture.

Masha,Musa or Moses was born an African in Egypt

Yisrayl is located in North east Africa now called the middle East,

Gen 13:1 Then Abram went up from Egypt, he and his wife and all that he had, and Lot with him, to the South

What country is south of Egypt? Sudan or from Gen 2:11 called Havilah

Gen 25:18 (They dwelt from Havilah as far as Shur, which [is] east of Egypt as you go toward Assyria.) He died in the presence of all his brethren. 


Gen 25:19 This [is] the genealogy of Yitz'hak, Abraham's son. Abraham begot Yitz'hak

Ab-ra -ham's sons dwelt from Havilah(Sudan) to Shur, Our ancestors were no Europeans and definitely no Jews

The Law was given to Masha,Musa or Moses an African born in Egypt not any Jews   

Exd 24:12 Then YAHAWAH said to Masha(Moses), "Come up to Me on the mountain and be there; and I will give you tablets of stone, and the law and commandments which I have written, that you may teach them."

[4] The "fake" testament opened His promises to all of creation. Since it is fake, that invitation to us (you included) is fake so why are you not on your knees worshiping baal or nimrod or living in sodom and gomorrah?

Liar ! liar! pants on fire 

The Creator's promises have been open from the Original Testament, see answers [1] & [2] again

[5] How dare you consider Him as God? You were rejected thousands of years ago by Him if the NT is fake and your father is satan

I didn't get this one so calm down and repost by conveying your question clearly so I can give you a befitting reply

@ OLAADEGBU

All that you have quoted above are Satan's plot to copy and corrupt God's pattern of sacrifice.  As we can see in the decalogue, abortion, euthanasia and murder is forbidden.  Leviticus 17:11 says "[color=]For the life of the flesh is in the blood: I have given it to you upon the alter to make an atonement for your soul[/color]."

"And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission." Hebrew 9:22 (The Evidence Bible).

The blood of animals shed in the Old Testament sacrifice for the atonement of souls just covered the sins and for this reason was not sufficient and explained why it had to be done repeatedly or yearly, but the blood shed by Christ was shed for the remission of sins, that is, the washing away of our sins.  As I said earlier, that the OT sacrifice has been discontinued till this day because a better and perfect one has been done, the blood of Christ, the Lamb of God has been shed.  In the passage above Paul shows that there can be no redemption except it is through the blood of Jesus Christ this has been foreshadowed by the Law that you are proclaiming which could not grant any covering of sin without the blood of the victim.

you can't justify your false claims by quoting your new testament, since the original came b4 it I guess your Paul's letters are now regarded above the words of your Jesus

The blood of animals shed in the Old Testament sacrifice for the atonement of souls just covered the sins and for this reason was not sufficient and explained why it had to be done repeatedly or yearly

This was due to the repeated disobedience of the people through their God worship, The Creator does not care for any blood period!

FOR TO OBEY THE LAW OF YAHAWAH IS BETTER THAN ANY SACRIFICE!!

LET'S READ!

1Sa 15:22 So Samuyl said: "Has YAHAWAH as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of YAHAWAH? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams.

Pro 21:3 To do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to YAHAWAH than sacrifice.

Deu 6:25 Then it will be righteousness for us, if we are careful to observe all these commandments before YAHAWAH our FATHER, as HE has commanded us.

Hsa 6:6 For I desire mercy and not sacrifice, And the knowledge of YAHAWAH more than burnt offerings

[B] I HOPE YOU GOT THAT!!!!!, THE CREATOR DOES'NT DESIRE ANY BLOOD SACFRICE PERIOD,AND ESPECIALLY NOT THAT OF A HUMAN BEING !!!!!! SO YOU COULD KEEP ON JUSITIFYING THIS WICKEDNESS IF YOU WANT TO[/b]

Isa 1:10 Hear the word of YAHAWAH, You rulers of Sodom; Give ear to The Law of our FATHER, You people of Gomorrah: 

Isa 1:11 "To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices to Me?" Says YAHAWAH. "I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams And the fat of fed cattle. [B]I do not delight in the blood of bulls, Or of lambs or goats. [/B]

Isa 1:12 "When you come to appear before Me, Who has required this from your hand, To trample My courts? 

Isa 1:13 Bring no more futile sacrifices; Incense is an abomination to Me. The New Moons, the Sabbaths, and the calling of assemblies-- I cannot endure iniquity and the sacred meeting. 

Isa 1:14 Your New Moons and your appointed feasts My soul hates; They are a trouble to Me, I am weary of bearing [them]. 


Isa 1:15 When you spread out your hands, I will hide My eyes from you; Even though you make many prayers, I will not hear. Your hands are full of blood. 

Isa 1:16 "Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean; Put away the evil of your doings from before My eyes. Cease to do evil, 

Isa 1:17 Learn to do righteousness; Seek justice, Rebuke the oppressor; Defend the fatherless, Plead for the widow. 

Isa 1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together," Says YAHAWAH, "Though your sins are like scarlet, They shall be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They shall be as wool. 

Isa 1:19 If you are willing and obedient, You shall eat the good of the land;

Isa 1:20 But if you refuse and rebel, You shall be devoured by the sword"; For the mouth of YAHAWAH has spoken

If you observe the Law of God in the OT you will realise that the forgiveness of sin requires the shedding of blood as is quoted in the passages above. [B] Jehovah was the first Person to kill an animal when the first man and woman sinned and lost their righteousness, if you are observant you will see that God shed the blood of an innocent animal to provide a covering for them.[/B]  God was actually the first fashion designer as he designed a leather jacket and fur coat for Adam and Eve   The fig leaves of self righteousness will not cover you on Judgment Day

Maybe your Jehovah killed that animal for it's skin,cos YAHAWAH sure didn't cause an animal to be killed It was Adam and Eve's disobedience that caused an animal to be killed, this really exposes you lack of understanding of the scriptures

Isa 1:11 "To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices to Me?" Says YAHAWAH. "I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams And the fat of fed cattle. I do not delight in the blood of bulls, Or of lambs or goats

Pro 21:3 To do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to YAHAWAH than sacrifice


Deu 6:25 Then it will be righteousness for us, if we are careful to observe all these commandments before YAHAWAH our FATHER, as HE has commanded us.

If Adam and Eve had done as they were commanded no blood would have been spilled, so in essence it was Adam and Eve who killed  and spilled blood by their disobedient actions  and not the Creator


You are now potraying the Creator as a willful Killer Wow, this is just the height of ignorance

Gen 3:21 Also for Adam and his wife YAHAWAH made tunics of skin, and clothed them

THE MOST HIGH STILL SHOWS THEM LOVE BY COVERING THEM IN SPITE OF THEIR WICKEDNESS

You seem to avoid some scripts while attempting to continue in your falsehoods

Only God alone can provide the covering through the precious blood of the Saviour that was shed on the cross of Calvalry 2000 years ago.  So, you arguments will not help you allow your conscience to answer those questions and then make the decision that will determine your destiny.

Please address these

Hsa 14:1 O Yis-ra-yl, return to YAHAWAH your FATHER, for you have stumbled because of your iniquity; 

Hsa 14:2 Take vows with you, And return to YAHAWAH. Say to AYAH, "Take away all iniquity; Receive us graciously, For we will offer the sacrifices of our lips

THE SACRIFICE OF OUR LIPS,NOT HUMAN BLOOD!!!

Yer 33:8   'I will cleanse them from all their iniquity by which they have sinned against Me, and I will pardon all their iniquities by which they have sinned and by which they have transgressed against Me.

Isa 43:25 "I, even I, AM HE Who blots out your transgressions for My own sake; And I will not remember your sins.

[b] The Creator says HE blots out our transgressions for HIS own sake and nothing else, again NO HUMAN OR ANIMAL BLOOD REQUIRED!!!!!!![/B]


Zec 13:1   "IN that day a Fountain shall be opened for the house of Dawad and for the inhabitants of Yahrushalayim, for sin and for uncleanness.

Eze 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and you shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your Gods (Elohyim), will I cleanse you

Eze 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their Gods (Elohyim), nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their FATHER

NO DIVERSION TACTICS PLEASE ADDRESS THESE SCRIPTURES MR OLAADEGBU

@nuclearboy

You ask which came 1st between the "ORIGINAL" testament and the "FAKE NEW" testament. My answer is that there are two testaments in the Scriptures and the OLD testament precedes the NEW testament. [s]My refusal to answer was based on the words you used. Except you can prove the "fakeness" of either one of these, something is wrong with your question.

As to precedence between Scriptures, I'd like to see you date the two. The fact that the Redeemer spoke to Cyrus does not provide a dating. He could have said this at the beginning of creation and made it known to Isaiah in his day. John 1:1 has the same explanation IMO. Again here, what matters is that both are contained in the Scriptures. The language form does not allow precedence.[/s]

Thanks for the answer, the rest is simply gibberish by the labels, common sense dictates that the so called Old came before the New period!

Except you can prove the "fakeness" of either one of these, something is wrong with your question.

We 've finally arrived at the precipice, The fakeness of the Zeus Testament

1,The Original Testament is only book authorized for meditation and instruction:

Yah 1:8   "This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth (TORAH-Instruction), but you shall meditate in it day and night, that you may observe to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

Gen 26:5 because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws." 

Psa 1:2   But his delight is in the law of YAHAWAH, And in His law he meditates day and night.

2, The Book of the law is complete with nothing more to be added to it:

Deu 31:24 And it came to pass, when Masha(Mosheh,Moses) had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,

Deu 4:2   "You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the Laws of YAHAWAH your Father which I command you

Ecc 3:14   I know that whatever YAHAWAH does, It shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, and nothing taken from it YAHAWAH does it, that men should have reverence before Him.

Pro 30:6 Do not add to His words, lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar

3, The Book of the Law was sealed,

Dan 12:4 "But you, Daniyl, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase." 

4, The LAW of the Creator is perfect and flawless, therefore it cannot be done away with or nailed to cross

Psa 19:7 The law of YAHAWAH(YHWH) is perfect, converting the person; The testimony of YAHAWAH(YHWH) is sure, making wise the simple;

THE  FAKE TEASTAMENT IS NOT THE BOOK OF THE LAW! AND IN FACT PROMOTES THE OUT RIGHT HATRED OF THE CREATOR'S LAWS[/B]

Gal 2:19 For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God. 

Gal 2:21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness [comes] through the law, then Christ died in vain." 

Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, "Cursed [is] everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them

Eph 2:15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, [that is], the law of commandments [contained] in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man [from] the two, [thus] making peace,

Col 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

[b] 5, The Original Testament says The Creator is our Savior

Isa 43:11   I, even I, am YAHAWAH, and besides Me there is no savior. (so much for Jesus Christ a.k.a  Ea-Zeus Christos)

Isa 45:21 Tell and bring forth your case; Yes, let them take counsel together. Who has declared this from ancient time? Who has told it from that time? Have not I, YAHAWAH? And there is no other source of power besides Me, A Just Father and a SAVIOR; There is none besides Me

Hsa 13:4 "Yet I am YAHAWAH your Father ever since the land of Egypt, And you will acknowledge no power or authority but Me; For there is no savior besides Me.

While the fake testament says Jesus is the savior

Tts 3:6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior

Tts 2:13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ

6, The original Testament says there is only one Creator!

Isa 42:5 Thus says YAHAWAH your FATHER, Who created the heavens and stretched them out, Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it, Who gives breath to the people on it, And spirit to those who walk on it:

Isa 44:24 Thus says YAHAWAH, your Redeemer, And He who formed you from the womb: "I AM YAHAWAH, Who makes all things, Who stretches out the heavens all alone, Who spreads abroad the earth by Myself

While the fake Tesament says Jesus is the Creator

Eph 3:9 and to make all see what [is] the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ

Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.

7, Abba YAHAWAH says through the Prophet Yahshayah(Isaiah) this

Isa 48:12 Listen to Me, O Yah'qob, And Yis'rayl, My called: I AM HE, I AM THE FIRST, I AM ALSO THE LAST.


While Jesus in the lying Testament says this:

Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, [the] Beginning and [the] End, the First and the Last."

So Who is the True First and Last? YAHAWAH or Jesus?

8, In the Original Testament, The Creator says there is none equal to HIm and none can be compared to HIM

Isa 40:25 "To whom then will you liken Me, Or to whom shall I be equal?" says the Holy One. 

Isa 46:5 "To whom will you liken Me, and make Me equal And compare Me, that we should be alike

Yet, Christianity teaches that Jesus Christ is equal to The Creator and is the co-creator of all (see John Chapter1:1) they also say when you see Jesus, then you've seen their God!

Phl 2:5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 

Phl 2:6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God

What!

9, In the original Testament,The Creator says He shall rebuild His Holy City Holy Mt Zion!

Psa 69:35 For YAHAWAH will save Zion And build the cities of Yahadah, That they may dwell there and possess it. 

Psa 102:16 For YAHAWAH shall build up Zion; He shall appear in His glory

Eze 36:10 I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Yisrayl, all of it; and the cities shall be inhabited and the ruins rebuilt

Amo 9:11 "On that day I will raise up The tabernacle of Dawad, which has fallen down, And repair its damages; I will raise up its ruins, And rebuild it as in the days of old

While Jesus & John and the Vatican  write in the fake Revelations that  Zion shall come from outer space

Rev 21:2 Then I, John,  saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Rev 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God

These two recorded accounts can not co-exist,they both can't be true, so which one you believe to be true? Again, according to the original scripts, Abba shall build up Zion not fly Zion in from outer space

ABBA YAHAWAH is The FOUNTAIN OF LIVING WATERS and DOES NOT APPROVE OF OR ACCEPT HUMAN BLOOD SACRIFICE AS THE HEATHEN GODS(ELOHIM) DO.

Psa 106:37 Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils

Eze 16:20" Moreover you took your sons and your daughters, whom you bore to Me, and these you sacrificed to them to be devoured. Were your acts of harlotry a small matter,

Deu 32:17 They sacrificed unto devils, not to YAHAWAH; to Gods (Elohyim) whom they knew not, to new Gods (Elohyim) that came newly up, whom your fathers reverenced not.

Yer 32:35 And they built the high places of Baal which are in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire to Molech, which I did not command them, nor did it come into My mind that they should do this abomination, to cause Yahadah to sin.

While the fake testament teaches that it's God sacrificed his son for the sins of the world

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life

1Cr 15:3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 

1Pe 2:24 who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness--by whose stripes you were healed

Yet you continue to believe that The Creator received the blood of your Jesus as a sacrifice for sins of the world. This is a pure paganistic doctrine and conception.  Remember! YAHAWAH WILL NEVER LET ANYONE DIE FOR YOUR SINS – EZE 18:20 &  HE NEVER LET ABRAHAM SPILL YITZ-HAK'S BLOOD either, HE provided an ram for that - Gen 22:13 (so much for the shadow of things to come doctrine)

In the original testament,The Creator calls Yisrayl His Son

Ex 4:22 Then you shall say to Pharaoh, 'Thus says YAHAWAH: "Yisrayl is My son, My firstborn. 

Ex 4:23 So I say to you, let My son go that he may serve Me. But if you refuse to let him go, indeed I will kill your son, your firstborn."

Hsa 11:1 "When Yisrayl was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My son.

Psa 89:20   I HAVE FOUND MY SERVANT DAWAD(David-The BRANCH of Yishai – see Isa 11:1); With MY HOLY OIL I HAVE ANOINTED HIM,

Psa 89:27   AND I WILL MAKE HIM  MY FIRSTBORN, higher than of the kings of the earth.

Psa 2:7 "I will declare the decree: YAHAWAH has said to Me (Yisrayl-,spoken by King Dawad, AYAH'S anointed king over Yisrayl), 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.

THe Creator also Identifies Ephraim , one of the Twelve tribes of the Nation Yisrayl as HIS Son and Also first born,


Yer(Jer) 31:9 They shall come with weeping, And with supplications I will lead them. I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters, In a straight way in which they shall not stumble; For I am a Father to Yisrayl, And Ephraim [is] My firstborn.

Yer(Jer) 31:20 [Is] Ephraim My dear son? [Is he] a pleasant child? For though I spoke against him, I earnestly remember him still; Therefore My heart yearns for him; I will surely have mercy on him, says YAHAWAH

While the fake Testament  calls Jesus the son of its God

Mat 14:33 Then those who were in the boat came and worshiped Him, saying, "Truly You are the Son of God." 

Jhn 1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared [Him].   

I hope you can see the major diff b/w The Book of The Law and your New Testament, and this is just the tip of the iceberg, but I'll stop for now for and wait for your response

@ Ogaga4Luv

Isa 1:10 Hear the word of YAHAWAH, You rulers of Sodom; Give ear to The Law of our FATHER, You people of Gomorrah:

Isa 1:11 "To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices to Me?" Says YAHAWAH. "I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams And the fat of fed cattle. I do not delight in the blood of bulls, Or of lambs or goats.

Isa 1:12 "When you come to appear before Me, Who has required this from your hand, To trample My courts?

Isa 1:13 Bring no more futile sacrifices; Incense is an abomination to Me. The New Moons, the Sabbaths, and the calling of assemblies-- I cannot endure iniquity and the sacred meeting.

Isa 1:14 Your New Moons and your appointed feasts My soul hates; They are a trouble to Me, I am weary of bearing [them].


Isa 1:15 When you spread out your hands, I will hide My eyes from you; Even though you make many prayers, I will not hear. Your hands are full of blood.

Isa 1:16 "Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean; Put away the evil of your doings from before My eyes. Cease to do evil,

Isa 1:17 Learn to do righteousness; Seek justice, Rebuke the oppressor; Defend the fatherless, Plead for the widow.

Isa 1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together," Says YAHAWAH, "Though your sins are like scarlet, They shall be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They shall be as wool.

Isa 1:19 If you are willing and obedient, You shall eat the good of the land;

Isa 1:20 But if you refuse and rebel, You shall be devoured by the sword"; For the mouth of YAHAWAH has spoken

@ OLAADEGBU

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." His shed blood on the cross can make you clean in the sight of a holy God, as though you have never sinned

My my my, how  wrong you are, The Creator does not allow human sacrifice period

Psa 106:37 Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils

Eze 16:20" Moreover you took your sons and your daughters, whom you bore to Me, and these you sacrificed to them to be devoured. Were your acts of harlotry a small matter,

Deu 32:17 They sacrificed unto devils, not to YAHAWAH; to Gods (Elohyim) whom they knew not, to new Gods (Elohyim) that came newly up, whom your fathers reverenced not.

Yer 32:35 And they built the high places of Baal which are in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire to Molech, which I did not command them, nor did it come into My mind that they should do this abomination, to cause Yahadah to sin.

If you have even broken one Law, then you have sinned against God and therefore will "surely die,"   for the "wages of sin is death."

Eze 18:21 "But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die.

Eze 18:22 None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live.   

Eze 18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies," says YAHAWAH. "Therefore turn and live!" 

We are guilty of violating His Law a multitude of times, yet if we repent, God can forgive us because Jesus stepped into the courtroom 2,000 years ago and paid the fine for us.

Hogwash!!!   Psa 119:9   How can a young man cleanse his way? By taking heed according to Your word(The Law & The Prophets).

Did you get the answer? Your way can only be cleansed by taking heed according AYHAH'S Word, The LAW and The Words of AYHAH'S Prophets, who delivered HIS law to HIS people




Eze 18:20 The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

Yer 33:8   'I will cleanse them from all their iniquity by which they have sinned against Me, and I will pardon all their iniquities by which they have sinned and by which they have transgressed against Me.

Isa 43:25 "I, even I, AM HE Who blots out your transgressions for My own sake; And I will not remember your sins.

AYAH blots out our transgressions for HIS own sake, not because of any human or animal blood sacrifrice remember 

Hsa 6:6 For I desire mercy and not sacrifice, And the knowledge of YAHAWAH more than burnt offerings,

this means that the so called blood of Jesus is a farce and does absolutely nothing to save you


Now take heed to these words!!

Zec 13:1   "IN that day a Fountain shall be opened for the house of Dawad and for the inhabitants of Yahrushalayim, for sin and for uncleanness.

Eze 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and you shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your Gods (Elohyim), will I cleanse you

Eze 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their Gods (Elohyim), nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their FATHER



Hsa 14:1 O Yis-ra-yl, return to YAHAWAH your FATHER, for you have stumbled because of your iniquity; 

Hsa 14:2 Take vows with you, And return to YAHAWAH. Say to AYAH, "Take away all iniquity; Receive us graciously, For we will offer the sacrifices of our lips

(not human blood sacrifice as in the blood of Jesus the Greco Roman made Christ)



FOR TO OBEY THE LAW OF YAHAWAH IS BETTER THAN ANY SACRIFICE!!

LET'S READ!

1Sa 15:22 So Samuyl said: "Has YAHAWAH as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of YAHAWAH? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams.

Pro 21:3 To do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to YAHAWAH than sacrifice

@noetic15

what's this hot air, did someone say something, your comment is of no significance, so you are officially on iggy

@nuclearboy

Since it seems you've got blinders on let me ask again

I asked you a simple question, I really don't care in which order you placed  your quotes, and has nothing to do with that, again which Testament or scriptures came first the Original testament or the fake new testament  ?

Which account takes precedence , The account in John 1:1 or the account in Isa 44:24 ? think critically with your next reply

Sorry, I'm not from Eastern Europe or Southern Russia, so I ain't no jew, unless you are trying to insult me, if so then its just water off a duck's back
The Law is given to mankind , not any man made religions

The Law is given to  mankind, you don't have to be a Jew,christian or moslem in order to show love to your brothers or sisters by observing The Law in the Original Testament , cos the Most high never gave mankind any religion, rather it is people like you that have been brainwashed to classify people and continue to promote your hatred of anyone who ain't like you.

Isa 66:23   And it shall come to pass that from one New Moon to another,and from one Sabbath to another, ALL FLESH shall come to worship before Me," says YAHAWAH.


Ecc 12:13   Here is the conclusion: Reverence YAHAWAH and obey HIS Commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.

(Not  Hebrew, Moslem, Christian or Jew, but all mankind period!)

I answer your questions,

I wonder what you will do if your donkey or dog falls into a ditch on a Saturday. Leave it there, I suppose since it is a Holy day?

Silly child! pulling a donkey from a ditch is an act of love for one of The Creator's creation, a poor defenseless animal,saving the donkey from the pain and uneccesary suffering due brought about by an accidental fall, this would not be considered working as in every day labor toiling for sustenance! use your brain or what's left of it

but you can't answer a simple question without resorting to silly diversionary tactics go figure ! genius

@nuclearboy

I wonder what you will do if your donkey or dog falls into a ditch on a Saturday. Leave it there, I suppose since it is a Holy day?

Silly child! pulling a donkey from a ditch is an act of love for one of The Creator's creation, a poor defenseless animal,saving the donkey from the pain and uneccesary suffering due brought about by an accidental fall, this would not be considered working as in every day labor toiling for sustenance! use your brain or what's left of it

Stop your petty  attempts at avoiding the issues raised, everyone can clearly see that's what you are doing, answer or remain silent , Im sure The -Seeker can hold his own, so stop already with your tom foolery, I'm the one in your face Sun -day worshipper

Typical Christian avoidance technique, I asked you a simple question, I really don't care in which order you placed  your quotes, and has nothing to do with that, again which Testament or scriptures came first the Original testament or the fake new testament  ?

Eze 8:16 So He brought me into the inner court of YAHAWAH(YHWH)'s house; and there, at the door of the temple of YAHAWAH(YHWH), between the porch and the altar, [were] about twenty-five men with their backs toward the temple of YAHAWAH(YHWH) and their faces toward the east, and they were worshiping the sun toward the east


Your sort ain't nothing new The sun-day worship you practice has been an evil  since the original testament times!!!

@nuclearboy

why does the order in which I placed the 2 quotes matter? Does your perch on the order not make it obvious you had nothing to say?

Typical Christian avoidance technique, I asked you a simple question, I really don't care in which order you placed your quotes, and has nothing to do with that, again which Testament or scriptures came first the Original testament or the fake new testament ?

Which account takes precedence , The account in John 1:1 or the account in Isa 44:24 ? think critically with your next reply

@ kristonium

I openly challenge you to a duel of the minds on this subject! state your case for errors and prove it per scriptures from the OT since it was in effect before any so called new testament came about, if not stay off my thread