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Christianity EtcRe: Where Was Jesus Born, In A House Or Manger? by Yisraylite(m): 4:23pm On Dec 11, 2009
@OLAADEGBU


So you have the brains to research history? Can you investigate why animal sacrifice for atonement in Israel stopped since 70 A.D?
Don't need to research to answer this! Jerusalem was burned and sacked by the invading Roman army in 70AD, it's priests and levites were either killed or fled. Hence the stopage of the sacrificial system as prophesied by Danyl over 600 years earlier. This had absolutely nothing to do with a fake Jesus dying for everyone in the world. HUMAN SACFRICE IS FORBIDDEN BY THE CREATOR!!!!! grin
Christianity EtcRe: Hanukkah( The Jewish Festival Of Lights) Starts On 12th December by Yisraylite(m): 4:14pm On Dec 11, 2009
@ Lady234

grin oops I guess I must have hit a sensitve nerve there! Your petty attempts at insults are like water off a ducks' back. The TRUTH shall stand regardless of what you choose to do,You are not from Eastern Europe and you copying these  Jews Eastern European traditions is your choice, But no one will ever find the observance of Hannukkah in the LAW & PROPHETS.

So go light up your menorah and pretend to be Jewish , The Ashkenazi Jews don't even care for Africans, They even call them Kushi in Israel today a term of contempt  on par with the word Nigger!! undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Research Proves Jews Are Non- Yisraylite Asiatics! For You Nairaland Jews! by Yisraylite(op): 4:00pm On Dec 11, 2009
@ Nezan

Which of the prophets do you believe in, BTW, do you believe Jesus is the Son of God?
No where in the Original and Only Testament Did YAHAWAH ever mention the name Jesus as His Son!  Jesus is simply a product of The Roman Catholic Vatican's council at Nicea from 323-325


[b]fable or an imaginary fairytale characterundecided which is what the fake story of Jesus really is, Okay I admit as this fairytale goes Jesus(son of Zeus) is Killed

The Creator refers to Yisrayl as HIS first born son with David as His chosen King forever over the Nation of Yisrayl, and I don't mean the European Khazar impostors who live in Israel today. These people are the descendants of Gog & Magog.

Psa 89:20   I HAVE FOUND MY SERVANT DAWAD(The BRANCH of Yishai – see Isa 11:1); With MY HOLY OIL I HAVE ANOINTED HIM,

Psa 89:27   AND I WILL MAKE HIM  MY FIRSTBORN, higher than of the kings of the earth.

Psa 2:7 "I will declare the decree: YAHAWAH has said to Me (Yisrayl-,spoken by King Dawad, AYAH'S anointed king over Yisrayl), 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.

Ex 4:22 Then you shall say to Pharaoh, 'Thus says YAHAWAH: "Yisrayl is My son, My firstborn. 

Ex 4:23 So I say to you, let My son go that he may serve Me. But if you refuse to let him go, indeed I will kill your son, your firstborn."

Hsa 11:1 "When Yisrayl was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My son.

THe Creator also Identifies Ephraim , one of the Twelve tribes of the Nation Yisrayl as HIS Son and Also first born,


Yer(Jer) 31:9 They shall come with weeping, And with supplications I will lead them. I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters, In a straight way in which they shall not stumble; For I am a Father to Yisrayl, And Ephraim [is] My firstborn.

Yer(Jer) 31:20 [Is] Ephraim My dear son? [Is he] a pleasant child? For though I spoke against him, I earnestly remember him still; Therefore My heart yearns for him; I will surely have mercy on him, says YAHAWAH

THERE IS NO HISTORY OR RECORD IN THE LAW OR IN THE PROPHETS WHERE THE ALMIGHTY CREATOR MENSTIONS THE NAME JESUS CHRIST AND REFERS TO HIM AS HIS ONLY SON!!!!

YOU WILL ONLY FIND THIS FORGERY IN THE FAKE NEW TESTAMENT


Eze 37:24   "Dawad My servant shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd; they shall also walk in My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them

Eze 34:23   "I will establish one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them--My servant Dawad. He shall feed them and be their shepherd.

Eze 37:25   "Then they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Yaa’qob My servant, where your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell there, they, their children, and their children's children, forever; and My servant Dawad shall be their prince forever

Amo 9:11   "On that day I will raise up The tabernacle of Dawad, which has fallen down, and repair its damages; I will raise up its ruins, and rebuild it as in the days of old

1Ch 28:4   "However YAHAWAH The Father of Yisrayl chose me (Dawad) above all the house of my father to be king over Yisrayl forever, for HE has chosen Yahadah to be the Ruler. And of the house of Yahadah, the house of my father, and among the sons of my father, He was pleased with me to make me king over all Yisrayl

Hos 3:5   Afterward the children of Yisrayl shall return and seek YAHAWAH  their FATHER and Dawad their king. And will Reverence YAHAWAH and His Righteousness in the latter days.

Yer(Jer) 30:9   But they shall serve YAHAWAH their Father, and Dawad their king, WHOM I WILL RAISE UP FOR THEM

Isa 52:15   So shall He startle many nations. Kings shall shut their mouths at Him; For what had not been told them they shall see, and what they had not heard they shall consider.[/b]

Salamah
Christianity EtcRe: Research Proves Jews Are Non- Yisraylite Asiatics! For You Nairaland Jews! by Yisraylite(op): 3:29pm On Dec 11, 2009
@Edet Okon

grin  grin No need to get upset,defensive and abusive , Did you  not read where ABBA YAHAWAH has given all men the duty of observing His Laws, The Creator never gave men any religion, so you could keep labeling yourself with whatever religion you wish

The LAW , The Prophets,the psalms do not constitute the Bible so stop your foolish talk and go get some more knowledge, The Original Testament is in direct conflict with your so called new testament created  by the Roman Catholic Vatican !!!!

You are not from Eastern Europe, so why you biting off of their tradtions African man!, Keep the instructions given by AYAH in the Law(Lev 23) and stop being overly emotional about someone else's culture
Christianity EtcRe: If Christ Didn’t Exist, Why Do We Measure Time In Bc And Ad? by Yisraylite(m): 12:24am On Dec 11, 2009
Cool, accepted, sometimes it's hard for people to apologize, so you're a stand up guy for doing what's right
Kudos!
Christianity EtcRe: If Christ Didn’t Exist, Why Do We Measure Time In Bc And Ad? by Yisraylite(m): 10:39pm On Dec 10, 2009
@ Mazaje

^^ He is a black Jew that hates white people. . . .
Don't start no s@*#,then there won't be no Sh%@, keep my name out ya mouth if ur gonna be interlectually dishonest by mis representing my stance undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Research Proves Jews Are Non- Yisraylite Asiatics! For You Nairaland Jews! by Yisraylite(op): 8:25pm On Dec 10, 2009
I believe in The Divine Intructions of Love and Life given by The Creator through The Law and The Prophets. I'm not a Christian, Moslem or Jew. The Most High has given man instructions for life and you would be wise to follow them

Ecc 12:13 ¶ Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear YAHAWAH, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. ( not Jew,Moslem or Christian but MAN!!)


Ecc 12:14 For YAHAWAH shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be righteous, or whether it be evil.




Salamah
Christianity EtcRe: If Christ Didn’t Exist, Why Do We Measure Time In Bc And Ad? by Yisraylite(m): 8:19pm On Dec 10, 2009
@ Nezan

I see you must  be some kind of a wuss  sad Why don't you address me directly if you want to peg my beliefs?, rather than come across as a condescending child ? If you have the capacity to understand simply posts you would find out that one can not be black and be jewish all at the same time cos Jews come from Europe while Black people come from Africa. Moses was born an African in Egypt and married an Ethiopian woman, Now go figure that one out genius!

@ Mazaje

You must be quite daft,the spanking I gave you in 2008 must have worn off or you may be suffering from selective amnesia. If your trying some comedy relief, you better pick someone else b4 you force me to pull my belt of correction with your backside as the recipient  angry
Christianity EtcRe: Where Was Jesus Born, In A House Or Manger? by Yisraylite(m): 7:36pm On Dec 10, 2009
It was an evangelist that said "The hinge of history is to be found on the door of a Bethlehem stable."
And this false reality in which this fake evangelist was steeped in when he made this baseless comment is supposed to mean something to the rest of us who have brains and can research History? huh
Christianity EtcRe: If Christ Didn’t Exist, Why Do We Measure Time In Bc And Ad? by Yisraylite(m): 5:38pm On Dec 10, 2009
The same people who gave you the BC and AD calenders also gave you SUN-DAY WORSHIP- THE DAY ALL SUN(now SON) WORSHIPPERS go to the groves and high places to worship the SUN(Son) God!



Deu 4:19 And [take heed], lest you lift your eyes to heaven, and [when] you see the sun, the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, you feel driven to worship them and serve them, which YAHAWAH your FATHER has given to all the peoples under the whole heaven as a heritage
Eze 8:16 So He brought me into the inner court of YAHAWAH's Tabernacle; and there, at the door of the Tabernacle of YAHAWAH , between the porch and the altar, [were] about twenty-five men with their backs toward the Tabernacle of YAHAWAH and their faces toward the east, and they were worshiping the sun toward the east
Christianity EtcRe: Where Was Jesus Born, In A House Or Manger? by Yisraylite(m): 5:28pm On Dec 10, 2009
@
Jesus was born in the minds of all brain washed christians! cry
Christianity EtcRe: Christmas Should be Replaced! by Yisraylite(m): 5:25pm On Dec 10, 2009
@ Topic

Someone please show me from the new testament where it gives the date of your Jesus's birthday as December 25th, If  you can't then you need shut this fantasy thread down  grin

Christmas - A mass for Christ or Kristos, I thought only Catholics celebrated mass, this simply means all Christians are catholics!, Dec 25th the birthday of Mithra the Roman sungod! celebrated centuries before christianity even existed!!!!!


I'LL BE WAITING FOR THAT NEW TESTAMENT FANTASY VERSE  shocked
Christianity EtcRe: Research Proves Jews Are Non- Yisraylite Asiatics! For You Nairaland Jews! by Yisraylite(op): 5:17pm On Dec 10, 2009
Why this weird obsession with Israel and Jews?
And your point is?

This is more of an exposure of hidden facts that most people don't know about and continue to reverence these European people as The Creator's Chosen people.

Being continually brain washed by Judeo-christainity! undecided

Everything done in the darkness must be brought into the light, so read thoroughly and enlighten your brain!!
Christianity EtcRe: Hanukkah( The Jewish Festival Of Lights) Starts On 12th December by Yisraylite(m): 3:38pm On Dec 10, 2009
@chukwudi44

If I were you I would first of all study the link given to know  what the hanukkah is all about before posting.
Bros, no need to get defensive, Lady 234 is obviously promoting Hannukkah, so again please show from the Torah were The Creator has instructed that Hannukkah be observed?

The festival of lights and  Maccabes  revolt is not in the Law and Prophets so your point is moot!

Lev 23:1 And YAHAWAH spoke to Masha(Musa,Mosheh,Moses) saying, 

Lev 23:2 "Speak to the children of Yisrayl, and say to them: 'The feasts of YAHAWAH, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My feasts

Lev 23:1- 23:44 - Read it!

NO HANNUKKAH ! PLEASE STOP PROMOTING JEWISH CULTURE, we are already dealing with horrible effects of the white man's christianity and the Arabs Islam in Nigeria, we don't need this Jewish crap to confuse more truth seekers!

UNLESS YOU ARE READING THE TALMUD OR PRACTISING KABBALAH!

salamah!
Christianity EtcResearch Proves Jews Are Non- Yisraylite Asiatics! For You Nairaland Jews! by Yisraylite(op): 2:54pm On Dec 10, 2009
Christianity EtcRe: Hanukkah( The Jewish Festival Of Lights) Starts On 12th December by Yisraylite(m): 2:47pm On Dec 10, 2009
Here is a map of the ancient Jewish homeland

https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/khazaria.gif

As you can see thier home was originally in Europe before they decided with the help of the U.S and the U.k to relocate to North East Africa and claim Palestine as thier new homeland
Christianity EtcRe: Hanukkah( The Jewish Festival Of Lights) Starts On 12th December by Yisraylite(m): 2:45pm On Dec 10, 2009
@ Poster

You are not a Jew, Jews come from Southern Russia,Khazarksan,Bulgaria etc, so why are you clinging on to their traditions? Did Abraham, Yahzhak, Yaaqob, Noah, Dawad(David) Samuyl,Yeremyah,Etc celebrate Hannukkah? The feasts to be celebrated are listed in Lev 23 and your Hanukkah is not in that list

Salamah!
Christianity EtcRe: If Christ Didn’t Exist, Why Do We Measure Time In Bc And Ad? by Yisraylite(m): 2:36pm On Dec 10, 2009
@ Beautymc

Jesus said in John’s gospel that Satan was a murderer from the beginning, and that those who sought to murder Him were Satan's children.
Firstly, No Jesus ever said this,cos the myth of Jesus was made up by the Vatican mother church ! Secondly, Satan never murdered anyone from the begining, unless I'm reading a diff account than yours, Please inform us of who Satan murdered in the begining cos the last time I checked it was Cain who willfully chose and plotted to take Abel his brother's life, so what do the choices one makes have anything to do with Satan unless one is refusing to take responsibility for his or her actions. It looks like your Jesus got his facts quite wrong and therefore should be considered a false fake prophet undecided merely a image that the Roman Catholic mother church used and continues to use to control the minds of a mass of uneducated people. When some educated Christians with PHD's go to church they leave their collective brains at the front door and walk into church as zombies hanging on every word that comes out of their fake pastors mouths!
Christianity EtcRe: Where Do People Go To When They Die? by Yisraylite(m): 8:35pm On Dec 05, 2009
Eyes wide open  grin I'm glad some people are starting to see past the crap. Hell - greek mythology, Heaven - 1st -where the birds fly. 2nd- sub space, 3rd- deep space, so who do you personally know who became an astronaut after they died? huh When people die they are buried in the earth( the Pit) or Sheol in Hebrew falsely translated as hell
Christianity EtcRe: If Christ Didn’t Exist, Why Do We Measure Time In Bc And Ad? by Yisraylite(m): 8:28pm On Dec 05, 2009
@ topic

Your logic simply doesn't hold up undecided The same people who brain washed you into the white man made religion of Jesus & God worship are the same people who gave you the calender you use today, The ancient Babylonians,Egyptians, Mayans, Hebrews etc all had their system of keeping records of time which did not include AD or BC. Julius Czar - July. Augustus Czar-August, Monday- Moon day, Sunday-Die solis the venereble day of the conquering Sun, Thursday - The day of the God Thor etc, You should seek more wisdom and over standing before coming up with silly topics like this!

Salamah(Peace)
Christianity EtcRe: God Killed Himself To Redeem Our Sins. *hilarious* by Yisraylite(m): 7:49pm On Nov 28, 2009
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

These Christians can't make up their minds, one day their God is an immortal and the next day he becomes a man that can be murdered by his own creation

Simply Laughable! grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Issue Of Hell And Judgment by Yisraylite(m): 5:59pm On Nov 28, 2009
@ ttalks

HaSatan in the ancient hebrew means man's adversary.The Almighty Creator created and appointed satan to this office to serve as HIS messenger of destruction, and I must say that satan carries out all YAHAWAH'S commands perfectly. Don't buy the twisted fairytales contained in the Vatican created false New Testament about there being a war in Heaven and Satan being kicked out. Christianity claims to get its roots from the Original Testament (so called Old Testament) yet there is no such record or evidence of any war in heaven in the Original testament.

@ Topic


Rather than blame Satan why don't people take responsibility for the choices they make, after all it is man who hurts his fellow man by
stealing, raping, murdering, starting wars, lying, committing adultery, whoring and spiritual fornications etc, When a man decides to go steal and murders in the process, what's that got do with satan? it is that man who has become a devil and a demon, one who has refused to abide by the Laws of love given by the Creator

Lev 19:17 'You shall not hate your brother in your heart. You shall surely rebuke your neighbor, and not bear sin because of him. 


Lev 19:18 You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: AYAH (I AM) YAHAWAH.

Remember!

Isa 45:7 I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, YAHAWAH, do all these things.'

Deu 32:39 'Now see that I, even I , Am He, And there is no God (EL) with Me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; Nor is there any who can deliver from My hand

Psa 136:5  To Him Who by wisdom made the heavens, For His mercy endures forever

Psa 102:25  Of old You laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands

Isa 44:24 Thus says YAHAWAH, your Redeemer, And He who formed you from the womb: "I AM YAHAWAH, Who makes all things, Who stretches out the heavens all alone, Who spreads abroad the earth by Myself


I believe that heaven and hell is real, and I also believe that Jesus didn't fail his mission.

But the only question I have to ask is about the creation.

We all know that Satat was once an angle of light. He tried to overthrow God but failed and was casted out of heaven.

Now here's my question: knowing fully well that Satan would work endlessly to see the downfall of man beause of the way he was casted out of heaven, and secondly, of all the places Satan and his agents could have been casted, God casted them to the earth.

Now the bible tells us that God created man in his own image and likeness, blessed them and placed them on the same earth where his worst enemy Satan dwells; and gave them a commandment to avoid a particular tree (why plant such a tree in the first place if you want it to be avoided).

Unfortunately, Satan succeeded in decieving them, and God drove them out of the garden, cursed them and made their life miserable.

Now tell me, is it fair
I guess in your world Satan is stronger than your God sad, Who told you that Satan was in the Garden? this is another christian dogma, This is the brain washing I keep talking about, please read:

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which YAHAWAH had made. And he said to the woman, "Has YAHAWAH indeed said, 'You shall not eat of every tree of the garden'?"

The Serpent here simply means a deceiver, kinda like these preachers running around today deceiving people while having their hands in peoples pockets,selling them false hope. have you ever heard someone being called a snake? or someone having a forked tongue? this is a person whose words or speach can not be trusted!

Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field
Torah's definition of Beast

Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, each different from the other.

Dan 7:17 'Those great beasts, which are four, are four kings which arise out of the earth.


These are Rulers of great political/religious kingdoms of the Earth

Did you get that! This was a deceiver king of a now lawless nation who came up to deceive and steal that which YAHAWAH had given Adam and Eve dominion over.



 
Based on its usage darkness refers lawlessness while light refers to AYAH'S (IAM) Law

Gen 1:2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of YAHAWAH was hovering over the face of the waters

Without form means without structure, Law and order gives every society form or structure

Void depending on its usage means without the Law or light of YAHAWAH


Psa 119:126 It is time for You to act, O YAHAWAH, For they have regarded Your law as void. 
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Darkness(blackness): Yer(Jer) 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, And the heavens above be black, Because I have spoken. I have purposed and will not relent, Nor will I turn back from it

Psa 119:105 Your Law is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path

For the commandment is a lamp, And the law a light; Reproofs of instruction are the way of life

Adam was created by YAHAWAH as His new Light bearer in world that had gone dark(become Lawless). His Priest of Righteousness in a world that had now become void of light with its inhabitants living in darkness. It's kings and Rulers now lawless without the perfect Law of Love!

Remember it was from these people that Cain later took a wife from! This proves that there were other people on the earth when Adam and Eve were brought forth

Gen 4:14 Surely You have driven me out this day from the face of the ground; I shall be hidden from Your face; I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond on the earth, and it will happen [that] anyone who finds me will kill me

Who were these people whom Cain was referring to that would kill him if they found him? If Adam, Eve, Cain & Abel were the only ones one the Earth?

Gen 4:15 And YAHAWAH said to him, "Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold." And YAHAWAH set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him

Again who are these people? They sure aren't Adam, Eve or dead Abel!

Gen 4:16 Then Cain went out from the presence of YAHAWAH and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden. 


Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son—Enoch

Who is this wife Cain married? I heard ignorant Christians say Cain married his Sister. YAHAWAH does not permit incest, it is against His Laws

Lev 20:17 'If a man takes his sister, his father's daughter or his mother's daughter, and sees her unclothedness and she sees his unclothedness, it [is] a wicked thing. And they shall be cut off in the sight of their people. He has uncovered his sister's unclothedness. He shall bear his guilt

It was the Ruler of these lawless people that came up to deceive Adam & Eve in order to take the possession and Authority YAHAWAH had bestowed upon His Priest

Please read further:


Eze 28:12 "Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, 'Thus says YAHAWAH: "You [were] the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty

Eze 28:13 You were in Eden, the garden of YAHAWAH; Every precious stone [was] your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes Was prepared for you on the day you were created

Eze 28:15 You [were] perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you.

I hope you got that! Ruler of Tyre was in AYAH'S garden not Satan!

Eze 27:2 "Now, son of man, take up a lamentation for Tyre, 

Eze 27:3 and say to Tyre, 'You who are situated at the entrance of the sea, merchant of the peoples on many coastlands, thus says YAHAWAH: "O Tyre, you have said, 'I [am] perfect in beauty.' 

Eze 27:4 Your borders [are] in the midst of the seas. Your builders have perfected your beauty

Eze 27:11 Men of Arvad with your army [were] on your walls [all] around, And the men of Gammad were in your towers; They hung their shields on your walls [all] around; They made your beauty perfect

Eze 27:23 Haran, Canneh, Eden, the merchants of Sheba, Assyria, [and] Chilmad [were] your merchants.

Eze 28:2 "Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre, 'Thus says the YAHAWAH: "Because your heart [is] lifted up, And you say, 'I [am] a god, I sit [in] the seat of gods, In the midst of the seas,' Yet you [are] a man, and not a god, Though you set your heart as the heart of a god

Is Satan a Man?  Every scripture here refers to the King or prince of Tyre who was a man(Eze 28:2)

It was He who came up to deceive Adam and Eve, This man and deceiver said 'I [am] a god, I sit [in] the seat of gods, and promised Eve the same, to become a god

Gen 3:5 For YAHAWAH  knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like a God, knowing good and evil.

Let me stop for now!

Salaamah
Christianity EtcRe: Who Created Evil? by Yisraylite(m): 1:59am On Nov 27, 2009
@ Topic

Most People bluntly refuse to take responsibility for their actions so they blame it on satan, The Creator has given man the power make choices and the standard or what is right and what is wrong

Isa 45:7 I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, YAHAWAH, do all these things.'

Deu 32:39 'Now see that I, even I , Am He, And there is no God (EL) with Me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; Nor is there any who can deliver from My hand

Psa 136:5  To Him Who by wisdom made the heavens, For His mercy endures forever

Psa 102:25  Of old You laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands

Isa 44:24 Thus says YAHAWAH, your Redeemer, And He who formed you from the womb: "I AM YAHAWAH, Who makes all things, Who stretches out the heavens all alone, Who spreads abroad the earth by Myself

Satan is actually an obedient Malak (Messenger) of destruction of The Creator, and carries out whatever assignment issued without hesitation.(Job 1:6-9)

Man is the only willful disobedient creation of the Most High, Even the sun & moon  obey all the laws of nature given by The Creator

It is Man who is evil and continually sheds blood on this earth,starts wars,robs,steals, rapes, heckles, taunts etc, mankind is so unjust,you don't know who to trust!!!

It is man who has revolted against The Creator and chosen to go the way of death and destruction




@ mama-gee,

Only an ignorant person would attack someone else's grammer while neglecting the question to be answered. If u don't have any contributions towards the topic then be silent,for silence is golden undecided or is it satan that made you so rude  grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Issue Of Hell And Judgment by Yisraylite(m): 10:58pm On Nov 26, 2009
@ topic

This is an easy one Bro!

Hades and Hell

Hades
 
In Greek mythology Hades is the King of the Dead.  He is a son of the titans Cronus and Rhea, and brother to Zeus, Poseidon, Demeter, Hera and Hestia   After Zeus had overthrown Cronus, the three brothers divided the world between them.  Zeus ruled the heavens; Poseidon ruled the sea and Hades was left to rule the underworld.  There, with his queen Persephone, who he abducted from the world above, he ruled the kingdom of the dead.


I ain't no brain washed christian,but even their New testament says this:

Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death 


Ain't all who go to hell supposed to burn forever? so how come Hell and death are cast into the lake of Fire or Lava to be destroyed? If hell is destroyed how are people going to burn forever in it?

Confused brain washed Christians don't even know what their own book says about Hell,

Hell in the false new testament is a gross mistranslation of the Amharic(ancient hebrew) word sheol which means the grave or the pit which is dug when someone is about to be buried. The whole concept of Hell comes from  greco roman mythology and grafted into christian religious dogma, for those interested in this topic, please look up the book Dante's inferno!

Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption

Does this mean that the Creator let His Holy One go to Hell?

The correct translation is this

Psa 16:10 For You  will not leave me  in sheol(the grave); neither will you suffer your Holy One to see corruption 

Isa 26:19  Your dead shall live; Together with my dead body they shall arise. Awake and sing, you who dwell in dust; For your dew is like the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

Isa 66:23  And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, says YAHAWAH.


All flesh shall come to worship The Creator,The Almighty Power (Allahayam) Who is YAHAWAH,


[b]Hades abducts Persephone
 

Although Hades was a grim and pitiless god, unappeased by prayer or sacrifice, he was not an evil god; mostly he was concerned with increasing the number of his subjects, which he ruled justly.  Those whose calling increased the number of his dead subjects were seen as welcome guests, the Erinnyes (the Furies) for example were particularly welcome.  Once in his realm, he was disinclined to allow any of his subjects leave, a condition that even applied to his wife Persephone, who he allowed to visit with her mother Demeter during the Spring and Summer, provided she return to him in the Winter.  One exception was the legend of Orpheus and Eurydice.

 

Hades may have been a remorseless god with a terrible temper, but he was not capricious.  Indeed as Pluto (his Roman aspect) he was also known as the god of wealth and riches, because as crops were grown and precious metals mined from the earth, people believed them to have come from his kingdom below the ground.  He also had a helmet that made the wearer invisible, given to him by the Cyclopes in appreciation of his help and prowess in battle, this he would lend to other gods and mortals when needed (as in the legend of Perseus).

 

Of all the Olympian gods, Hades is the one least liked, and except for Zeus, most other gods lived in fear and had an aversion of him.  He was a frightening opponent in battle and had proved his worth during the ten-year war of Titanomachy, the battle of the Olympians versus the Titans in which Zeus had overthrown his father Cronus.  His weapon of choice was a two-pronged fork, which he used to shatter anything in his way or not to his liking (much as Poseidon did with his trident).  Hades rode into battle on a dark chariot drawn by four huge coal-black horses, an impressive sight striking fear into the hearts of his enemies.  Although he was an Olympian, Hades spent most of the time in his own dark realm.

 
Hades rides into battle
 

In the real world, people avoided speaking his name lest they attracted his unwanted attention.  In rituals they sacrificed black sheep, letting the blood of the sacrifice drip and seep into the earth, at the same time while praying to him, they would bang their hands on the ground so he would hear their devotions.  Sacred to him was the narcissus plant (named after Narcissus, who in Greek mythology was a beautiful young man who had rejected the love of the nymph Echo, and was condemned to fall in love with his own reflection in a pool.  So intense was his passion for himself he pined away, and in the place where he died a flower sprang up that was named after him), the species of which genus includes:  daffodils, jonquils and narcissuses.  The cypress is also sacred to him; branches of cypress were used as a symbol of mourning.

 

Hell
 

The underworld is often referred to as Hell, or ‘Hades’ in reference to his title as King of the dead.  Hell was his place of residence, a place divided into two regions:  Erebus, where the dead pass on to as soon as they die, and Tartarus a deeper region, the infernal abyss, a place of punishment for the wicked after death and where the Titans had been imprisoned.  Hell the underworld of Hades was a dark, dim, subterranean place, inhabited by vague forms, shadows and numerous rivers.

 

Somewhere in the darkness of the underworld was the palace of Hades.  It is often depicted as a many-gated, dark and gloomy place, set in the midst of shadowy fields and haunted landscapes.  Cerberus a fierce three-headed, dragon-tailed dog, guards the gates.  Inside however, it was redolent with the treasures of the earth and thronged with his guests.  From here Hades ruled his kingdom while sitting on a throne made of ebony, the scepter and badge of his office was a staff, with which he drove unrepentant souls of the dead into the lower world of Tartarus.  To get to the palace was a long and perilous journey crossing the many rivers.

 

On death, the soul of a person was lead by Hermes to the entrance of the underworld, there to be met by the aged Charon who runs the only ferry allowed the cross the rivers.  Only those who could pay the fare (after death, coins and other treasures were often buried with the deceased for this purpose) would receive passage, those who couldn’t pay would be trapped between two worlds.  The journey would begin on the Acheron (the river of woe), down the Cocytus (the river of lamentation), into the Lethe (the river of forgetfulness), through the Phlegethon (the river of fire) and on to the Styx (the river of hate) to arrive at the gates of the palace.

 

The soul then enters through the gates to be met by Cerberus, who allows all souls to enter, but none to leave.  The soul then appears before a panel of three judges, Rhadamanthus, Minos, and Aeacus, who review the souls past life.  Those who had been good were blessed and allowed to proceed into the Elysian Fields, a happy final resting place.  Those who had not were damned and abolished to Tartarus, the infernal abyss, there to forever reside in torment.  The legends of Sisyphus and Tantalus are examples of this. [/b]

http://www.controverscial.com/Greek%20Mythology.htm#Hades%20and%20Hell 

Again ! The Hebrew word Sheol means the grave, this is what these Greco -Roman Christian translators changed to become Hell(from greek mythology)

When you have a chance look up the book Dante's Inferno. Read my brother!! Knowledge is power



Salamah!
Yisraylite
Christianity EtcRe: Messianic Jews Meet Here by Yisraylite(m): 4:13pm On Nov 23, 2009
@ Edet Okon
Thanks for the response and it is good to have an open honest discussion without  malice or contention. In ancient times the word Yehudim or Yahadim was usually used to refer to someone from the tribe of Yahadah or Judah, and as you know there were the 12 tribes of Yisrayl, so someone from Benyamin could not be Yahadah,neither could an Ephraimite be refered to as Yahadah, Masha(Musa or Moses) was from the tribe of Lawayah(Levi)so he was not called Yahadim or Jew either.

My reasoning is that the European Kharzers have assumed our ancient identities, relocated to North East Africa(now known as the Middle East) showing themselves to be the Creator's chosen people while the Torah records that its history all started in Africa from Genesis 2 and not in Europe.

Gen 10:2 The sons of Japheth [were] Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.  


Gen 10:3 The sons of Gomer [were] Ashkenaz, Riphath, [fn] and Togarmah.  


Gen 10:4 The sons of Javan [were] Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. [fn]  


Gen 10:5 From these the coastland [peoples] of the Gentiles were separated into their lands, everyone according to his language, according to their families, into their nations


Gen 10 :5 identifies the descendants of Japheth as the Gentiles, which includes Gog and Magog which we know today are the Russian lands and its surrounding countries, Africa the descendants of Ham & Shem are never Identified as the Gentiles.

Abba YHWH changed Abram name to Ab-ra-Ham which means Father of Ham or the Hamatic people a mulitutude of  nations


Gen 10:6 The sons of Ham [were] Cush, Mizraim, Put, [fn] and Canaan.  


Gen 10:7 The sons of Cush [were] Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabtechah; and the sons of Raamah [were] Sheba and Dedan.

From the maps posted Kush or Cush - Upper and lower Ethiopia,Abissinia
                          Hawalah or Havilah - Sudan or Guinee
                                    Put,Mizaraim -  Egypt
                                          Cannaan - Yisrayl

In Essence the Torah represents the history of our african people while Christianity is purely European by Origin. Made by the Vatican's Mother church in Rome under Emperor Constantine in 323-325 AD and these two can not mix . I can always explain further why the Law & the prophets are in direct conflict with the New Testament scriptures
Christianity EtcRe: Messianic Jews Meet Here by Yisraylite(m): 5:37pm On Nov 21, 2009
@ Tudor

Your ancient ancestors were Nubians,Egyptians,Ethiopians, Some chose to Worship YAHAWAH like Abraham, Masha(Moses or Musa) etc while others chose to worship the Gods of the land, Those who chose to worship YHWH became the ancient Yisraylites I speak of


Psa 68:31 Envoys will come out of Egypt; Ethiopia will quickly stretch out her hands to YAHAWAH

Zep 3:10 From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia My worshipers, The daughter of My dispersed ones, Shall bring My offering

Isa 19:24 In that day Yisrayl will be one of three with Egypt and Assyria--a blessing in the midst of the land, 

Isa 19:25 whom YAHAWAH of Hosts shall bless, saying, "Blessed [is] Egypt My people, and Assyria the work of My hands, and Yisrayl My inheritance." 
Christianity EtcRe: Messianic Jews Meet Here by Yisraylite(m): 5:27pm On Nov 21, 2009
Here is a map of the ancient Jewish homeland

https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/khazaria.gif

As you can see thier home was originally in Europe before they decided with the help of the U.S and the U.k to relocate to North East Africa and claim Palestine as thier new homeland
Christianity EtcRe: Messianic Jews Meet Here by Yisraylite(m): 5:17pm On Nov 21, 2009
@ Krayola

Our ancestors the ancient Ethiopians(Nubians) migrated and resettled across the continent which included modern day west Africa, people moved around as conditions for living, and  the need for sustenance changed. There were cross Saharan trade routes and people brought their skills and beliefs with them as they moved around.
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https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/Migration%20AncientMap.gif

The Garden of Eden was located b/w 4 riverheads as stated in Bereshith(Genesis)

Gen 2:10   Now a river went out of Eden to water the garden, and from there it parted and became four riverheads.

Gen 2:11   The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which skirts the whole land of Hawalah, where there is gold.


Nubia; Nub means gold in ancient Egypt further more, Ghana was also known as the Gold coast so this means the region extended all the way from Nub to the west African coast

[img]http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/NUBIAMAP.GIF[/img]

Gen 2:12   And the gold of that land is good. Bdellium and the onyx stone are there.

Gen 2:13   The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one which goes around the whole land of Kush.

Gen 2:14   The name of the third river is Hiddekel(Tigris) it is the one which goes toward the east of Assyria. The fourth river is the Euphrates.


https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/NE.gif

The Gihon is known today as the blue Nile, While the Pishon is Known as the white Nile. The Tigris or Hiddekel and Euphrates are located in Mesopotamia(Iraqi region)

Abba YAHAWAH’S Garden sat b/w these 4 rivers An area which extended from North East Africa to Iraq.


Lets take a look at some ancients maps of Africa, please see below


https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/Lower%20Ethiopia%28Nig%29.jpg

This map from the 14-1500s show West Africa with Ghana,Nigeria,etc as we know it today located between the regions of Guine(Guinea) and Lower Ethiopia.

https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/Gvinee.jpg

https://www.fileden.com/files/2006/12/23/546089/Sudan-Nig.jpg

This map shows Nigeria located between Guin(shown in the green color) and Soudan(shown in pink) bordered by the Shara,Biafra and Ethiopia.
Christianity EtcRe: Messianic Jews Meet Here by Yisraylite(m): 4:12pm On Nov 21, 2009
Salaamah Bro!
If I may state that we aren't Jews, Jews come from southern Russia,Poland, Germany,Ancient Kharzaria,Bulgaria etc. Jews are Europeans and the letter J does not exist in the ancient Hebrew, so the name jew never existed in the ancient Hebrew culture or langauge. As you Know the History of the Torah(the Law & the Prophets ) started in Africa -Genesis 2:11-13 Kush & Hawalah or Ethiopia and Sudan. We are the descendants of original ancient Yisraylites or Hebrews. From an ancient map I have Nigeria is identified under lower Ethiopia and I'll be glad to post it for your viewing

YAHAWAH(YHWH) Bless!
Christianity EtcRe: Why God Really Sent Jesus To Die? by Yisraylite(m): 8:13pm On Nov 11, 2009
@coolstuff4real

Bro don't delude yourself,human sacfrice is forbiden by the CREATOR, no one is gonna pay for your sins, even your new testament tells you that sin is the transgression of the Creator's Law-1 john 3:4




Eze 18:19   "Yet you say, 'Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?' Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and observed them, he shall surely live.

Yer 31:30  But every one shall die for his own iniquity; every man who eats the sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge

Amo 9:10   All the sinners of My people shall die by the sword, Who say, 'The calamity shall not overtake nor confront us.'

Eze 18:20   "The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

Please take a minute to let Eze 18:20 sink in! No one else will pay or paid for your evil doing especially not Jesus Christ(Ea-Zeus Christos)

Eze 18:21   "But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die.


Psa 119:9   How can a young man cleanse his way? By taking heed according to Your word(The Law & The Prophets).

Did you get the answer? Your way can only be cleansed by taking heed according AYHAH'S Word, The LAW and The Words of AYHAH'S Prophets, who delivered HIS law to HIS people

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them

Hsa 14:2 Take vows with you, And return to YAHAWAH. Say to AYAH, "Take away all iniquity; Receive us graciously, For we will offer the sacrifices of our lips (not human blood sacrifice as in the blood of Jesus the Greco Roman made Christ)

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