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Christianity EtcRe: Who Really Killed Jesus? by Yisraylite(m): 8:03pm On Nov 11, 2009
@topic

You can't kill a myth , fable or an imaginary fairytale characterundecided which is what the fake story of Jesus really is, Okay I admit as this fairytale goes Jesus(son of Zeus) is Killed grin

The Creator refers to Yisrayl as HIS first born son with David as His chosen King forever over the Nation of Yisrayl, and I don't mean the European Khazar impostors who live in Israel today. These people are the descendants of Gog & Magog.

Psa 89:20   I HAVE FOUND MY SERVANT DAWAD(The BRANCH of Yishai – see Isa 11:1); With MY HOLY OIL I HAVE ANOINTED HIM,

Psa 89:27   AND I WILL MAKE HIM  MY FIRSTBORN, higher than of the kings of the earth.

Psa 2:7 "I will declare the decree: YAHAWAH has said to Me (Yisrayl-,spoken by King Dawad, AYAH'S anointed king over Yisrayl), 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.

Ex 4:22 Then you shall say to Pharaoh, 'Thus says YAHAWAH: "Yisrayl is My son, My firstborn

Ex 4:23 So I say to you, let My son go that he may serve Me. But if you refuse to let him go, indeed I will kill your son, your firstborn."

Hsa 11:1 "When Yisrayl was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My son.

THe Creator also Identifies Ephraim , one of the Twelve tribes of the Nation Yisrayl as HIS Son and Also first born,


Yer(Jer) 31:9 They shall come with weeping, And with supplications I will lead them. I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters, In a straight way in which they shall not stumble; For I am a Father to Yisrayl, And Ephraim [is] My firstborn.

Yer(Jer) 31:20 [Is] Ephraim My dear son? [Is he] a pleasant child? For though I spoke against him, I earnestly remember him still; Therefore My heart yearns for him; I will surely have mercy on him, says YAHAWAH

[B]THERE IS NO HISTORY OR RECORD IN THE LAW OR IN THE PROPHETS WHERE THE ALMIGHTY CREATOR MENSTIONS THE NAME JESUS CHRIST AND REFERS TO HIM AS HIS ONLY SON!!!!

YOU WILL ONLY FIND THIS FORGERY IN THE FAKE NEW TESTAMENT
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Eze 37:24   "Dawad My servant shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd; they shall also walk in My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them

Eze 34:23   "I will establish one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them--My servant Dawad. He shall feed them and be their shepherd.

Eze 37:25   "Then they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Yaa’qob My servant, where your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell there, they, their children, and their children's children, forever; and My servant Dawad shall be their prince forever

Amo 9:11   "On that day I will raise up The tabernacle of Dawad, which has fallen down, and repair its damages; I will raise up its ruins, and rebuild it as in the days of old

1Ch 28:4   "However YAHAWAH The Father of Yisrayl chose me (Dawad) above all the house of my father to be king over Yisrayl forever, for HE has chosen Yahadah to be the Ruler. And of the house of Yahadah, the house of my father, and among the sons of my father, He was pleased with me to make me king over all Yisrayl

Hos 3:5   Afterward the children of Yisrayl shall return and seek YAHAWAH  their FATHER and Dawad their king. And will Reverence YAHAWAH and His Righteousness in the latter days.

Yer(Jer) 30:9   But they shall serve YAHAWAH their Father, and Dawad their king, WHOM I WILL RAISE UP FOR THEM

Isa 52:15   So shall He startle many nations. Kings shall shut their mouths at Him; For what had not been told them they shall see, and what they had not heard they shall consider.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Reveals Himself by Yisraylite(m): 4:53pm On Nov 10, 2009
@ Topic

What is all this ruckus over a non existent made up falsehood of a white boy messiah?, The New testament authors plagiarized texts from the original Testament infused it with religious dogma and Greco roman mythology stolen from the ancient Babylonians and Egyptians and came up with this intoxicating concoction called the New testament. Which millions now mindlessly follow.

How can the son of Zeus(EL) have anything to do with David? This Jesus was supposedly conceived through the union of a spirit and a Human, This would mean that he was simply not human period. Where did this spirit get the invisible sperm that carried David's genes for this impostor to be called the root & off spring of David? I know you brain washed Christians would now point to Mary his so called mother being a descendant of David, so let me address that:

Luke 3:23   Now Jesus Himself began His ministry at about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, the son of Heli (that is Joseph son in-law of Eli, Eli or Heli being mary or Miriam’s father)

Luke 3:24   the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Janna, the son of Joseph, ……………………………

Luke 3:31   the son of Melea, the son of Menan, the son of Mattathah, the son of Nathan, the son of David,

[b]As it shows in Luke 3:31 Miriam’s lineage through Eli (Heli) is traced back to Nathan who was Solomon’s brother and Dawad’s son (1Ch 3:5), and the above scriptures show from 1 chron 28:5-6  that YAHAWAH chose Solomon as His anointed to succeed Dawad not Nathan. So this disqualifies Jesus from sitting on YAHAWAH’S Throne over Yis-ra-yl forever.


1Ch 28:4   "However YAHAWAH The Father of Yisrayl chose me (Dawad) above all the house of my father to be king over Yisrayl forever, for HE has chosen Yahadah to be the Ruler. And of the house of Yahadah, the house of my father, and among the sons of my father, He was pleased with me to make me king over all Yisrayl.

1Ch 3:5   And these were born to him (Dawad) in Yerusalem: Shimea, Shobab, Nathan, and Solomon--four by Bathshua the daughter of Ammiyl.

1Ch 28:5   "And of all my sons (for YAHAWAH has given me many sons) He has chosen my son Solomon to sit on the Throne of the kingdom of YAHAWAH over Yisrayl.




Matthew 1 also records Jesus’s genealogy through Joseph, but this cannot not be valid because of Christianity’s doctrine of the Immaculate Conception, that is Miriam’s conception by a so called holy ghost and not Yahseph her husband.

Why would the Christian God take a man's wife and impregnate her without her husband's consent, This would be considered an act of rape in the so called Old testament(The Original Testament)!!

Ghosts don’t carry physical sperm to impregnate women with. This flies in the face of the Creator’s law of child birth for all humans on the earth. All children born on this earth come by the union of a father and mother, this is the only way of birth authorized and sanctioned by Abba YAHAWAH !!!!, HE would be breaking His own Law of Creation if He allowed otherwise. Remember this prophecy

Deu 18:18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him

Deut17:15", You may appoint a king over you, whom YAHAWAH your Father shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you

Did you get that? Let me explain. The key here is “like you from among their brethren, and one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you”.  Not a half spirit half man

From Deut 17:15 & 18:18 Abba YAHAWAH says this prophet and king shall be like Masha(Moses,Musa) a Priest, Leader, and King  appointed by YAHAWAH to rule over His people. That’s right Masha(Moses,Musa) was a Levite priest and also was king in Yis-ra-yl

Deu 33:5 And He(Masha(Moses,Musa)) was King in Yahshurun, When the leaders of the people were gathered, All the tribes of Yis-ra-yl together.

Masha(Moses,Musa) was born of a human father and mother from the Tribe of Lewi(Levi):

Exd 2:1   AND a man of the house of Levi went and took as wife a daughter of Levi.

Exd 2:2   So the woman conceived and bore a son. And when she saw that he was a beautiful child, she hid him three months.

Exd 2:10   And the child grew, and she brought him to Pharaoh's daughter, and he became her son. So she called his name Masha(Moses,Musa) saying, "Because I drew him out of the water."

Num 26:59  The name of Amram's wife was Yochebed the daughter of Levi, who was born to Levi in Egypt; and to Amram she bore Aharon and Masha(Moses,Musa) and their sister Miriam.

Exd 2:11   Now it came to pass in those days, when Masha(Moses,Musa) was grown, that he went out to his brethren and looked at their burdens. And he saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew, one of his brethren.

And like Masha(Moses,Musa), this king and prophet would be born of a father and mother like all the rest of us all born of parents not ghosts or spirits !!!!  And like Masha(Moses,Musa), He would come from among his brethren.

Yer(Jer) 30:21   Their Leader will be one of their own; their Ruler will arise from among them. I will bring him near and he will come close to me, for who is he who will devote himself to be close to Me?’ declares YAHAWAH

1Ch 28:4   "However YAHAWAH The Father of Yisrayl chose me (Dawad) above all the house of my father to be king over YISRAYL FOREVER, for He has chosen Yahadah to be the ruler. And of the house of Yahadah, the house of my father, and among the sons of my father, He was pleased with me to make me king over all Yisrayl.

[b]Now which part of FOREVER DOES THIS WORLD NOT UNDERSTAND? KING DAWAD IS TO BE KING IN YISRAYL FOREVER AFTER ABBA YAHAWAH RAISES HIM UP FROM HIS GRAVE !

Hos 3:5   Afterward the children of Yisrayl shall return and seek YAHAWAH  their FATHER and Dawad their king. And will Reverence YAHAWAH and His Righteousness in the latter days.

Yer(Jer) 30:9   But they shall serve YAHAWAH their Father, and Dawad their king, WHOM I WILL RAISE UP FOR THEM

Additional problems still remain, even if one would want to conclude that, through adoption the genealogy is adopted as well. We find that when Mattithyah traces the genealogical line of Joseph the adopted father of Jesus back to King Dawad, this line goes through Kings named Manasseh, Yahyakim and Yahyakin.

This is what Abba YAHAWAH said of Yahyakim “

Yer 22:18   Therefore thus says YAHAWAH concerning Yahyakim  the son of Yohsiyah, king of Yahadah:
"They shall not lament for him, saying, 'Alas, my brother!' or 'Alas, my sister!' They shall not lament for him, saying, 'Alas, master!' or 'Alas, his glory!'

Yer 22:19   He shall be buried with the burial of a donkey, dragged and cast out beyond the gates of Yerusalem.

Yer 36:30 Therefore thus says YAHAWAH concerning Yahyakim king of Yahadah: "He shall have no one to sit on the throne of Dawad, and his dead body shall be cast out to the heat of the day and the frost of the night

Yahyakim is cursed of YAHAWAH !!!!!! with no more kingly or Royal blessings from Abba YAHAWAH for his house, seed or descendants including Joseph adopted father of the so called Jesus of Nazareth a.k.a Ea-Zeus Christos



Another problem arises in Yeremyah(Jeremiah) 22:30, when the ancestor of Yahseph according to Mathityah named King Yahyakin or Yekonyah or Konyah, son of Yahyakim and his seed were also cursed by YAHAWAH, From which point on Abba revoked all blessings of HIS Throne over Yis-ra-yl until the future resurrection to come of the whole house of Yis-ra-yl (Ezk 37:1-14)

Yer 22:24   "As I live," says YAHAWAH, "though Konyah the son of Yahyakim, king of Yahadah, were the signet on My right hand, yet I would pluck you off;

Yer 22:25   "and I will give you into the hand of those who seek your life, and into the hand of those whose face you fear--the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon and the hand of the Chaldeans.

Yer 22:26   "So I will cast you out, and your mother who bore you, into another country where you were not born; and there you shall die.

Yer 22:27   "But to the land to which they desire to return, there they shall not return.


Yer 22:28   "Is this man Konyah(Yahyakin) a despised, broken God--A vessel in which is no pleasure? Why are they cast out, he and his descendants, and cast into a land which they do not know?

Yer 22:29   O earth, earth, earth, Hear the word of YAHAWAH!

Yer 22:30   This is what YAHAWAH says

"Write this man as if childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days. For no man of his seed shall prosper sitting upon the throne of Dawad and ruling anymore in Yahadah."

WHY DID YAHAWAH PRONOUNCE THIS CURSE ON YEKONYAH AND ALL HIS DESCENDANTS?

This curse was placed on his house because he continued in the wicked way of his ancestors Solomon, Manesseh and all the wicked kings of Yahadah.

We see from this scripture in Yeremyah that any descendant of Yahyakin would be disqualified from ever being a Messianic candidate because of this curse; and therefore, if Christians insist upon making Yahshua or Jesus the legal adopted child of Yahseph, then it is obvious that Yahshua would be disqualified from even potentially being Ha Mashiyach because his adopted father Yahseph a descendant of Manasseh and Yahyakim was also under this curse.

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Christianity EtcRe: What's Your Favorite Name For God? by Yisraylite(m): 8:24pm On Nov 09, 2009
How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophecy lies? Yea, they are Prophets of deceit of their own heart (Jer 17:9)  which think to cause My people to Forget My NAME  YHWH (Yahawah)  by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbor, as their fathers have forgotten My NAME for BA’-AL.( LORD)
                                         Yaramyah (Jeremiah) 23:26-27

Ex 3:6 Moreover He said, "'AYAH (I AM) The FATHER of your father-- The FATHER of Abraham, The FATHER of Yahtzak(Isaac), and The FATHER of Yahqob(Jacob)." And Masha (Moses) hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon YAHAWAH

Ex 3:13 Then Masha (Moses) said to YAHAWAH, "Indeed, when I come to the children of Yisrayl and say to them, The FATHER of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they say to me, 'What is His name?' what shall I say to them?"


[b]The meaning of The Creator's NAME YAHAWAH (YHWH) can be found in the Book of Exodus (Wa-alah Shamot) Chapter 3:14

AYAH ASHAR AYAH – I AM WHO I AM AND I CAUSE TO BE WHAT WILL BE

Ex 3:14 And YAHAWAH said to Masha (Moses) "AYAH ASHAR AYAH (I AM WHO I AM AND I CAUSE TO BE WHAT WILL BE)." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Yisrayl, 'AYAH (I AM) has sent me to you.' " 

Ex 3:15 Moreover YAHAWAH said to Masha(Moses), "Thus you shall say to the children of Yisrayl: YAHAWAH The FATHER of your fathers, The FATHER of Abraham, The FATHER of Yahtzak, and The FATHER of Yahqob, has sent me to you. This is My NAME forever, and this is My memorial to all generations

Ex 6:3   And I appeared to Abraham, to Yahtzak (Isaac), and to Yahqob (Jacob), by The Name of YL Shaddai (Almighty Power), but by My Name YAHAWAH was I not known to them?

Mal 2:2 If you will not hear, And if you will not take it to heart, To give glory to My Name," Says YAHAWAH of hosts, "I will send a curse upon you, And I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have cursed them already, because you do not take it to heart.[/b]
Christianity EtcRe: What Do You Think Heaven Will Be Like? by Yisraylite(m): 8:10pm On Nov 09, 2009
@  princekevo

All passages you were able to give are all old testament. Can you please back up your ideas with a passage in new testament of Jesus christ who seems to be the origin of chritainity? If ever what you said above is right, how do you then explain these passages in new testament, being a direct words from christ himself? (Matthew 6:19-20) ""Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal".
Also (John 14:2-3) "In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am".
Which one came first? the Old  or your fake new testament, I thought the so called old testament was the foundation of your christianity, what? are you an Old testament hater too?
If ever what you said above is right, how do you then explain these passages in new testament, being a direct words from christ himself?
"If what you said above is right" did you witness me writing those words spoken in the Paslms? Do you pick and choose what Psalms you believe? So you pick Psalm 23 but reject Psalm 115:6?
A house without a foundation can not stand ! The Original Testament is in direct conflict with the fake new testament created by the Vatican in an effort to control the minds of
the poor uneducated masses. So do you fall into this catergory?
Christianity EtcRe: Names Of Nairaland Members That Will Go To Hell. by Yisraylite(m): 6:14pm On Nov 09, 2009
@ manmustwac

Yes Sir  my bad grin
Christianity EtcRe: Proof Dat Jesus Christ Is God by Yisraylite(m): 5:59pm On Nov 09, 2009
Mat 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone

Your Jesus God does'nt even know when he is coming back, I thought your God knows everything undecided huh

Simply Laughable grin grin grin

A God that can be killed by his creation, we don't need such weaklings in a world full of wicked men!!!
Christianity EtcRe: What Do You Think Heaven Will Be Like? by Yisraylite(m): 5:44pm On Nov 09, 2009
Most of you are simply emotional, deluded and I must admit this topic is quite laughable  grin
Do you even read the scriptures? No one you know is in Heaven and none of you are going there

Adam & Eve were put here on this earth, and this is written in Psalms:

Psa 115:16
The heaven, even the heavens, are YAHAWAH'S; But the earth He has given to the children of men.

Did you get that, The Creator has given the Earth to the children of Men, So how can the children of men now day dream their way into the Creator's heaven? huh

Ecc 5:2 Do not be rash with your mouth, And let not your heart utter anything hastily before YAHAWAH. For YAHAWAH is in heaven, and you on earth; Therefore let your words be few
Christianity EtcRe: Names Of Nairaland Members That Will Go To Hell. by Yisraylite(m): 5:28pm On Nov 09, 2009
@ manmustwac

Good looking out Bro! cool

More New testament contradictions
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death
Ain't all who go to hell supposed to burn forever? so how come Hell and death are cast into the lake of Fire or Lava to be destroyed? If hell is destroyed how are people going to burn forever?

You confused brain washed Christians don't even know what you own book says about Hell, So let me enlighten you all  cool

Hell in your fake new testament is a gross mistranslation of the Amharic(ancient hebrew) word sheol which means the grave or the pit which is dug when someone is about to be buried. The whole concept of Hell comes from  greco roman mythology and grafted into christian religious dogma, for those interested in this topic, please look up the book Dante's inferno!

Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption

Does this mean that the Creator let His Holy One go to Hell?

The correct translation is this

Psa 16:10 For You  will not leave me  in sheol(the grave); neither will you suffer your Holy One to see corruption 

Isa 26:19  Your dead shall live; Together with my dead body they shall arise. Awake and sing, you who dwell in dust; For your dew is like the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

Isa 66:23  And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, says YAHAWAH.


All flesh shall come to worship The Creator,The Almighty Power (Allahayam) Who is YAHAWAH,
Christianity EtcRe: Names Of Nairaland Members That Will Go To Hell. by Yisraylite(m): 3:49pm On Nov 09, 2009
As the resident Nairaland Anti Christ, I'm shocked and appaulled that I did not make this list, so please add Yisraylite

I love being an Anti Christ  its so much fun, If I ever get a hold of your non existent Jesus,I'll personally kick the snot right out of him,I shall beat his ass,while Abba YAHAWAH takes care of the rest of the Earth's GODS

[b] 1Chron 16:26 for all the Gods (Elohim) of the people are demons: but YAHAWAH made the heavens.

Yer 10:11 thus you shall say to them: "The gods (elohim) that have not made the heavens and the
earth shall perish from the earth and from under these heavens."

Psa 95:3 For you O YAHAWAH, are our Almighty Heavenly Father, and a Great King above all gods(elohim).

Isa 43:11   I, even I, am YAHAWAH, and besides Me there is no savior. (so much for Jesus Christ a.k.a  Ea-Zeus Christos)


Hsa 13:4 "Yet I am YAHAWAH your FATHER ever since the land of Egypt, And you will acknowledge no power or authority but Me; For there is no savior besides Me.
( so much for Jesus Christ a.k.a Ea Zeus the healer, Iesous, Iesus,  etc)

Psa 96:4 For YAHAWAH is Great, and Greatly to be praised: He is to be Reverenced above all gods (elohim).

Psa 97:9 For You, O YAHAWAH are the Most High above all the earth: You are exalted above every god (el)

Zep 2:11 YAHAWAH will be awesome to them, For He will reduce to nothing all the gods of the earth; People shall worship Him, Each one from his place, Indeed all the shores of the nations

Psa 106:21 They forgot YAHAWAH their SAVIOR, Who had done great things in Egypt

Isa 43:12   I have declared and saved, I have proclaimed, and there was no strange god (el) among you; Therefore you are My witnesses,” "that I am YAHAWAH.

Isa 49:26 I will feed those who oppress you with their own flesh, and they shall be drunk with their own blood as with sweet wine. All flesh shall know That I, YAHAWAH, am your SAVIOR, and your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Yaaqob." 
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Christianity EtcRe: Does The New Testament Promote The Sodomite Or Gay Life Style ? by Yisraylite(op): 3:34pm On Nov 09, 2009
@  linkin8k

Please do give us  your Mother church's intepretation since you a spokes person for the New Testament,
From the King James Version Read!!

Luk 17:34   I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
make sure you do not evade the question: what are two grown men doing sleeping in the same bed?

I eagerly await your response  huh
Christianity EtcDoes The New Testament Promote The Sodomite Or Gay Life Style ? by Yisraylite(op): 11:42pm On Nov 08, 2009
From the King James Version Read!!

Luk 17:34   I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

LMAO grin grin

What the *&^% are two grown ass men doing sleeping in the same bed huh Sword fighting maybe  shocked

Jesus never new the warmth of a woman, never had any children, was always hanging with men, most times he is potraited and scantly clothed with a piece of rag covering his loins, very gay in appearance !

Many of his catholic priests today rape, sodomize and molest little alter boys, Something fishy is def going on here!!!!!! shocked
Christianity EtcRe: Re:The Only Saviour by Yisraylite(m): 11:28pm On Nov 08, 2009
@ Collins
your ignorance sure does preceed you, are you plain daft or is it your christainity dumbing your common sense down , Your words
@yisralite,stop blabbing and speaking non sense.tell me where the word"horus your own goddess" was mentioned in the bible.aha! This is where we catch false deceivers like u
Now pay very close attention!

The story of Horus is ancient African(Egyptian to be precise) Mythology which the Romans and Greeks under Alexander the Great stole from Egypt when they conquered ancient North Africa. They over the following centuries converted this myth to suit their own purposes,they eventually ratified and legitamized it under Emperor Constantine in 323-325 AD when christianity then became the official religion of Rome.

If your brain hasn't been deluded by christianity then you would understand that I don't worship Horus either as your response insinuiates, I worship The AlMighty Creator of the Heavens & Earth, The FATHER of Abraham, Yahtzak & Yaaqob, YAHAWAH ALLAHAYAM (YAHAWAH THE ALMIGHTY POWER)

Num 23:19   YAHAWAH is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

1Sa 15:29  And also the Strength of Yisrayl will not lie nor relent. For AYAH (I AM) is not a man, that He should relent."


The origin of the Torah starts in Africa,From Genesis Read:


Gen 2:11   The name of the first [is] Pison: that [is] it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where [there is] gold; 


Gen 2:12   And the gold of that land [is] good: there [is] bdellium and the onyx stone. 


Gen 2:13   And the name of the second river [is] Gihon: the same [is] it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.

NO European Nations are mentioned from the start of your Bible, so it's time for you to get your head out of the white man's ass and get wisdom for yourself undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Re:The Only Saviour by Yisraylite(m): 2:35pm On Nov 08, 2009
@ jcross22

I know how you feel sad sometimes  you get scared b/cos everything you've been taught to be truth starts to crumble before your very eyes so you break out in a nervous laugh shocked, You Christians claim the so called old testament is your foundation but It is totally in contradiction to the vactican created fake new testament. Go do your research Bro and quit defending a church system that could care less about you
Christianity EtcRe: Will Jesus Ever Come Back? by Yisraylite(m): 2:25pm On Nov 08, 2009
@  jcross22

You should pay close attention b4 you start having tantrums, I'm in the U.S
yisralite, you said you study that for ten years, yet the copy is not in this country then where did you find yours?
How many Hebrew schools do you know of in Nigeria? Obviously here in the U.S we've got quite a few, If you are wise, you'll find the Truth even in your King James Bible and it aint no Jesus:

Psa 119:142 Your righteousness [is] an everlasting righteousness, And Your law [is] truth.

Psa 119:151 You are near, O YAHAWAH, And all Your commandments are truth.

Psa 119:160 The entirety of Your Law is truth, And every one of Your righteous judgments endures forever

Psa 19:7 The law of YAHAWAH is perfect, converting the person; The testimony of YAHAWAH is sure, making wise the simple;

Psa 19:8 The statutes of YAHAWAH are right, rejoicing the heart; The commandment of YAHAWAH is pure, enlightening the eyes; 

Psa 19:9 The Reverence of YAHAWAH is clean, enduring forever; The judgments of YAHAWAH are true and righteous altogether. 

Psa 19:10 More to be desired are they than gold, Yea, than much fine gold; Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb. 

Psa 19:11 Moreover by them Your servant is warned, And in keeping them there is great reward


Your Jesus aint the light either!

[Isa 8:16 Bind up the testimony, Seal the law among my disciples

Pro 6:23 For the commandment is a lamp, And the law a light; Reproofs of instruction [are] the way of life,



Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, [it is] because there is no light in them


Is the Creator's light in you? Jcross22
Christianity EtcRe: Re:The Only Saviour by Yisraylite(m): 1:54pm On Nov 08, 2009
@Collins, No need for the name calling, A Ghost does not carry physical Sperm grin, you christians claim Ea-Zeus(Jesus) was a man,yet his Mom had sex with a Ghost huh ,The Creator sanctioned a way for all humans to be born into this world and that is through a man impregnating a woman. Your God must be a freak and needs to be destroyed for stealing another man's wife and impregnating her with invincible  casper the friendly ghost's sperm  cheesy cheesy cheesy, That's truely disgusting a God that has sex with his creation!


You have been brain washed  by the white men at the vatican, You should really feel ashamed to be an African who bows to , cries out to a worldwide product created and manufactured in Rome, have some pride man! the white man is not better than you! We are the original people and all life and civilization began  in Africa!! They have even turned the Horus myth into a Jesus reality and silly overly emotional christians blindly and mindlessly follow angry

A List of the similarities between Horus and Jesus:

>Horus and the Father are one.
>Jesus says, "I and My Father are one.  He that
seeth Me, seeth Him that sent Me."

>Horus is the Father seen in the Son.
>Jesus claims to be the Son in whom the Father is revealed.

>Horus was the light of the world, the light that is represented by the symbolical eye, the sign of salvation.
>Jesus is made to declare that He is the light of the world.

>Horus was the way, the truth, the life by name and in person.
>Jesus is made to assert that he is the way, the truth,
and the life.

>Horus was the plant, the shoot, the natzar.
>Jesus is made to say: "I am the true vine."

>Horus says:  It is I who traverse the heaven; I go round the Sekhet-Arru (the Elysian Fields); Eternity has been assigned to me without end.  Lo!  I am heir of endless time and my attribute is eternity.
>Jesus says: " I am come down from Heaven.  For this is
the will of the Father that everyone who beholdeth the
Son and believeth in Him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."  (He, too, claims to be lord of eternity.)

>Horus says: " I open the Tuat that I may drive away the darkness."
>Jesus says: " I am come a light unto the world."

>Horus says:  I am equipped with thy words O Ra (the father in heaven) (ch.32) and repeat them to those who are deprived of breath.  (ch.38).  These were the words of the father in heaven.
>Jesus says: " The Father which sent me, he hath given
me a commandment, what I should say and what I should
speak.  Whatsoever  I speak, therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.  The word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me."

A comparative list of some pre-existing types to Christianity shows further how these types were brought on in the canonical Gospels and the Book of Revelation:

1. Horus baptized with water by Anup = Jesus
   Baptized with water by John.

2. Anup, the Baptizer = John the Baptist.

3. Aan, a name of the divine scribe = John the
   divine scribe.

4. Horus born in Annu, the place of bread = Jesus
   born in Bethlehem, the house of bread.

5. Horus the Good Shepherd with the crook upon his
   shoulders = Jesus the Good Shepherd with the lamb or
   kid upon his shoulder.

6. The Seven on board the boat with Horus = The
   seven fishers on board the boat with Jesus.

7. Horus as the Lamb = Jesus as the Lamb.

8. Horus as the Lion = Jesus as the Lion.

9. Horus identified with the Tat or Cross = Jesus
   identified with the Cross.

10. Horus of twelve years = Jesus of twelve years.

11. Horus made a man of thirty years in his baptism =
   Jesus made a man of thirty years in his baptism.

12. Horus the Krst = Jesus the Christ.

13. Horus the manifesting Son of God = Jesus the
   manifesting Son of God.

14. The trinity of Atum the Father, Horus the Son,
   and Ra the Holy Spirit = The trinity of the Father,
   Son and Holy Spirit.

15. The first Horus as a child of the Virgin, the
   second as the Son of Ra = Jesus as the Virgins child,
   the Christ as Son of the Father.

16. Horus the sower and Set the destroyer in the
   harvesting = Jesus the sower of the good seed and
   Satan the sower of tares.

17. Horus carried off by Set to the summit of Mount
   Hetep = Jesus spirited away by Satan into an
   exceedingly high mountain.

18. Set and Horus contending on the Mount = Jesus and
   Satan contending on the Mount.

19. The Star as the announcer of the child Horus =
   The Star in the East that indicated the birthplace of
   Jesus.

20. Hours the avenger = Jesus who brings the sword.

21. Horus as Iu-em-Hetep, who comes with peace =
   Jesus the bringer of peace.

22. Horus the afflicted one = Jesus the afflicted one.

23. Horus as the type of life eternal = Jesus the type of
       eternal life.

24. Horus as Iu-em-Hetep, the child teacher in the
   temple = The child Jesus as teacher in the temple.

25. The mummy bandage that was woven without seam
       =The vesture of Christ without a seam.

26. Twelve followers of Horus as Har-Khutti = Twelve
   followers of Jesus as the twelve disciples.

27. The revelation written down by Aan (Tehuti) the
   scribe of divine words = The revelation by John
   the divine.

28. The saluter Aani, who bears witness to the word
   of Ra and to the testimony of Horus = John who bears
   witness to the Word of God and the testimony of
   Jesus Christ.

29. The secret of the Mysteries revealed by Taht-Aan
   = The secret of the Mysteries made known by John.

30. Horus the Morning Star = Jesus the Morning Star.

31. Horus who gives the Morning Star to his followers
   = Jesus who gives the Morning Star to his followers.

32. The name of Ra on the head of the deceased = The
   name of the Father written on the forehead.

33. The Paradise of the Pole Star-Am-Khemen = The
   Holy City lighted by one luminary, that is neither the
   Sun nor the Moon = the Pole Star.

34. The Har-Seshu, or servants of Horus = The servants
   of Jesus Christ.
Christianity EtcRe: Re:The Only Saviour by Yisraylite(m): 10:56pm On Nov 07, 2009
[b]A ghost can never impregnate a woman,It's against the law of nature and creation,The only way sanctioned by the Creator Abba YAHAWAH to bring forth children is through a man's sperm cell fertilizing a woman's egg.

So this mythological half -man half- God J-Zeus created by Constantine in 320 AD and the Catholic Church at the council of Nicea never walked this earth. I can gladly offer further proof from Torah

The World's Sixteen
Crucified Saviors
by Kersey Graves

Rival Claims of The Saviors

It is claimed by the disciples of Jesus Christ that he was of supernatural and divine origin; that, although he was woman conceived, he was deity begotten, and molded in human form, but comprehending in essence a full measure of the infinite Godhead, thus making him half human and half divine in his sublunary origin.

It is claimed that he was full and perfect God, and perfect man; and while he was God, he was also the son of God, and as such was sent down by the father to save the fallen and guilty world; and that thus his mission pertained to the whole human race; and his inspired seers are made to declare that ultimately every nation, tongue, kindred, and people under heaven will acknowledge allegiance to his government, and concede his right to reign and rule the world; that "every knee must bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

But we do not find that this prophecy has ever been or is likely to be fulfilled.  We do not observe that this claim to the infinite deityship of Jesus Christ has been  or is likely to be universally conceded.  On the contrary, it is found that by a portion, and a large portion of the people of even those nations now called Christian, this claim has been steadily and unswervingly controverted, through the whole line of history, stretching  through the nearly two thousand years which have elapsed since his advent to earth.

Even some of those who are represented to have been personally acquainted with him - aye! some of his own brethren in the flesh, children in the same household, children of the same mother - had the temerity to question the tenableness of his claim to a divine emanation.  And when we extend our researches to other countries, we find his claim, so far from being conceded, is denied and contested by whole nations upon other grounds.  It is met and confronted by rival claims.

Upon this ground hundreds of millions of the established believers in divine revelation - hundreds of millions of believers in the divine character and origin of religion - reject the pretensions set up for Jesus Christ.  They admit both a God and a Savior, but do not accept Jesus of Nazareth as being either.  They admit a Messiah, but not 'the' Messiah; these nations contend that the title is misplaced which makes "the man Christ Jesus" the Savior of the world.  They claim to have been honored with the birth of the true Savior among them, and defend this claim upon the ground of priority of date.  They aver that the advents of their Messiahs were long prior to that of the Christians, and that this circumstance adjudicates for them a superiority of claim as to having had the true Messiah born upon their soil.

It is argued that, as the story of the incarnation of the Christians' Savior is of more recent date than those of the oriental and the ancient religions ( as is conceded by Christians themselves), the origin of the former is thus indicated and foreshadowed as being an outgrowth from, if not a plagiarism upon the latter - a borrowed copy, of which the pagan stories furnish the original.  Here, then, we observe a rivalship of claims, as to which of the remarkable personages who have figured in the world of Saviors, Messiahs, and Sons of God, in different ages and different countries, can be considered the true Savior and "sent of God;" or whether all should be, or the claims of all rejected.

For researchers in oriental history reveal the remarkable fact that stories of incarnate Gods answering to and resembling the miraculous character of Jesus Christ have been prevalent in most if not all the principal religious heathen nations of antiquity; and the accounts and narrations of some of these deific incarnations bear such a striking resemblance to that of the Christian Savior - not only in their general features, but in some cases the most minute details, from the legend of the immaculate conception to that of the crucifixion, and subsequent ascension into heaven - that one might almost be mistaken for another.

More than twenty claims of this kind - claims of being invested with divine honor (deified) - have come forward and presented themselves at the bar of the world, with their credentials, to contest the verdict of Christendom, in having proclaimed Jesus Christ, "the only son, and sent of God:" twenty Messiahs, Saviors, and Sons of God, according to history or tradition, have in past times, descended from heaven, and taken upon themselves the form of men, clothing themselves with human flesh, and furnishing incontestable evidence of a divine origin, by various miracles, marvelous works, and superlative virtues; and finally these twenty Jesus Christs (accepting their character of the name) laid the foundation for the salvation of the world, and ascended back to heaven:

     -Krishna of Hindostan
     -Buddha Sakia of India
     -Salivahana of Bermuda
     -Zulis, or Zhule, also Osiris and
            Orus, of Egypt
     -Odin of the Scandinavians
     -Crite of Chaldea
     -Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia
     -Baal and Taut, "the only
            Begotten of God," of Phoenicia
     -Indra of Tibet
     -Bali of Afghanistan
     -Jao of Nepal
     -Wittoba of the Bilingonese
     -Thammuz of Syria
     -Atys of Phrygia
     -Xamolxis of Thrace
     -Zoar of the Bonzes
     -Adad of Assyria
     -Deva Tat, and Sammonocadam of Siam
     -Alcides of Thebes
     -Mikado of the Sintoos
     -Beddru of Japan
     -Hesus of Eros, and Bremrillah,
             of the Druids
     -Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls
     -Cadmus of Greece
     -Hil and Feta of the Mandaites
     -Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico
     -Universal Monarch of the Sibyls
     -Ischy of the Island of Formosa
     -Divine Teacher of Plato
     -Holy One of Xaca
     -Fohi and Tien of China
     -Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece
     -Ixion and Quirnus of Rome
     -Prometheus of Caucasus
     -Mohammed, or Mahomet, of Arabia

The cat is out of the bag on this one,there is nothing supernatural about the ficticious christian messiah Ea-zeus Christos[/b]
Christianity EtcRe: Will Jesus Ever Come Back? by Yisraylite(m): 10:47pm On Nov 07, 2009
@ jcross22

Please calm down b4 u rupture a blood vessel in your brain!!!! shocked, Firstly I don't understand your rambling, The names may be different but the text will still show the same. I challenge anyone on Nairaland to give a chapter and verse in the so called old testament were the name Jesus christ is written or referred to!! grin grin

You christians always get overly emotional especially when confronted with the reality of your Roman Catholic white man made religion, all you Black people keep on crying and bowing to a ficticious blonde hair,blue eyed white half man half God.
Christianity EtcRe: The Final Lie by Yisraylite(m): 4:48pm On Nov 07, 2009
@Horus, I've got ya back  cool

[b]Sir John Hawkins had the dubious distinction of becoming the first slave-ship captain to bring Africans to the Americas. Hawkins was a religious gentleman who insisted that his crew “serve God daily” and “love another”. His ship, ironically called “the good ship Jesus,” left the shores of his native England for Africa in October 1562. He arrived at Sierra Leone, and in a short time he had three hundred blacks in his possession. Hawkins claimed to have acquired them “partly by sword and partly by other means.”


The Good Ship Jesus | The Beginning of the British Slave Trade

The Good Ship Jesus

What has come to be referred to as "The Good Ship Jesus" was in fact the "Jesus of Lubeck," a 700-ton ship purchased by King Henry VIII from the Hanseatic League, a merchant alliance between the cities of Hamburg and Lubeck in Germany. Twenty years after its purchase the ship, in disrepair, was leant to Sir John Hawkins by Queen Elizabeth.

Hawkins, a cousin of Sir Francis Drake, was granted permission from Queen Elizabeth for his first voyage in 1562. He was allowed to carry Africans to the Americas "with their own free consent" and he agreed to this condition. Hawkins had a reputation for being a religious man who required his crew to "serve God daily" and to love one another. Sir Francis Drake accompanied Hawkins on this voyage and subsequent others. Drake, was himself, devoutly religious. Services were held on board twice a day.

John Hawkins Coat of Arms
A bound slave adorns John Hawkins' coat of arms.
Off the coast of Africa, near Sierra Leone, Hawkins captured 300-500 slaves, mostly by plundering Portugese ships, but also through violence and subterfuge promising Africans free land and riches in the new world. He sold most of the slaves in what is now known as the Dominican Republic. He returned home with a profit and ships laden with ivory, hides, and sugar. Thus began the British slave trade.

On his return to England Queen Elizabeth, livid, assailed Hawkins charging that his endeavor, ", was detestable and would call down vengeance from heaven upon the undertakers." When Elizabeth became fully aware, however, of the profits to be made she joined in partnership with Hawkins and provided him with the "Jesus of Lubeck," a.k.a., "The Good Ship Jesus."

A later slaving expedition in 1567, consisting of five ships and the "Jesus of Lubeck," met with resistance from the Spaniards at St Juan d'Ulloa in Mexico. Since the slave trade was illegal Spanish colonists usually required a charade of force from British ships, after which they would buy slaves at a discount. This time, however, the Spanish attacked the British ships and the "Jesus of Lubeck," cumbersome and difficult to maneuver, was sunk and the crew slaughtered. Hawkins escaped with Drake on a smaller ship.

Hawkins, his piratic ambitions dashed, returned to England and remained there in the service of the Queen. He gained distinction for his pivotal role in defeating the Spanish Armada and was knighted in 1588.

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Christianity EtcRe: Will Jesus Ever Come Back? by Yisraylite(m): 4:44pm On Nov 07, 2009
@ Porkpie

Bro, It is written in Paleo Hebrew(ancient hebrew) and I've studied the ancient Hebrew for over ten years so I'm able to translate it to English, I doubt that you would find the Hebrew Torah in Naija, and if you did it would still have to be translated. King  James's Version of the original scripts had been heavily edited to suit king James and his christian cronies plus the original did not have the new testament which is contrary and in direct opposition to the original testament.
Christianity EtcRe: Re:The Only Saviour by Yisraylite(m): 4:27pm On Nov 07, 2009
[b]Isa 43:25 "I, even I, AM HE Who blots out your transgressions for My own sake; And I will not remember your sins.

AYAH blots out our transgressions for HIS own sake, not because of any human or animal blood sacrifrice remember 

Hsa 6:6 For I desire mercy and not sacrifice, And the knowledge  of  YAHAWAH more than burnt offerings,

this means that the so called blood of Jesus is a farce and does absolutely nothing to save you.

Remember!

Eze 18:20 The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. 

Yer 31:30 But every one shall die for his own iniquity; every man who eats the sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge.

Eze 18:21 "But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 


Eze 18:22 None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live. 


Eze 18:23 Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?" says YAHAWAH, "and not that he should turn from his ways and live? 
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1Sa 15:22 So Samuyl said: "Has YAHAWAH as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of YAHAWAH? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams.

Pro 21:3 To do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to YAHAWAH than sacrifice.

Deu 6:25 Then it will be righteousness for us, if we are careful to observe all these commandments before YAHAWAH our FATHER, as HE has commanded us.

Hsa 6:6 For I desire mercy and not sacrifice, And the knowledge of YAHAWAH more than burnt offerings

Isa 1:10 Hear the word of YAHAWAH, You rulers of Sodom; Give ear to The Law of our FATHER, You people of Gomorrah: 

Isa 1:11 "To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices to Me?" Says YAHAWAH. "I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams And the fat of fed cattle. I do not delight in the blood of bulls, Or of lambs or goats. 


Eze 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and you shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your Gods (Elohyim), will I cleanse you

Eze 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their Gods (Elohyim), nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their FATHER

Yahyl (Joel) 3:21 For I will cleanse their blood(blood guilt) that I have not cleansed: for YAHAWAH dwells in Zion.

That’s right YAHAWAH shall personally do that which He has promised. HE never sent any son to die for you, so you could be washed in His so called son’s blood. By the way did you take a bloody bath or shower this morning or did you use WATER.

ABBA YAHAWAH is The FOUNTAIN OF LIVING WATERS and DOES NOT APPROVE OF OR ACCEPT HUMAN BLOOD SACRIFICE AS THE HEATHEN GODS(ELOHIM) DO.


THE CREATOR'S ONLY SON IS:

Psa 2:7 "I will declare the decree: YAHAWAH has said to Me (Yisrayl-,spoken by King Dawad, AYAH'S anointed king over Yisrayl), 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.

Ex 4:22 Then you shall say to Pharaoh, 'Thus says YAHAWAH: "Yisrayl is My son, My firstborn. 

Ex 4:23 So I say to you, let My son go that he may serve Me. But if you refuse to let him go, indeed I will kill your son, your firstborn."

Hsa 11:1 "When Yisrayl was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My son.
Christianity EtcRe: Will Jesus Ever Come Back? by Yisraylite(m): 4:10pm On Nov 07, 2009
@  folami86

Don't get it twisted Isaiah 11 has absolutely nothing to do with your Greco -Roman catholic fabricated  man  Made God Jesus(Ea-Zeus) This was spoken of King David


1Ch 28:4   "However YAHAWAH The Father of Yisrayl chose me (Dawad) above all the house of my father to be king over Yisrayl forever,

Do you understand the meaning of FOREVER!!!

Micahyah 5:2 "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands of Yahadah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Yisrayl,
Whose coming is proclaimed from of old, from ancient times."(Gen 49:1, Num 24:17, Riyyah 4:11-22, 1Sa 17:12)

1 Sam 16:1 Then YAHAWAH said to Samuyl, "How long will you mourn for Shaul, seeing I have rejected him from being king over Yisrayl? Fill your horn with oil, and go; I am sending you to Yishai of Bethlehem. For I have provided Myself a king from among his sons."

Isa 11:1   There shall come forth a Rod from the stem of Yishai and a Branch shall grow out of his roots.

1Sa 17:12  Now Dawad was the son of that Ephrathite of Bethlehem Yahadah ( see Micah 5: 2 ), whose name was Yishai; and he had eight sons: and the man went among men for an old man in the days of Shaul.

1Sa 16:10   Thus Yishai made seven of his sons pass before Samuyl. And Samuyl said to Yishai, " YAHAWAH  has not chosen these."

1Sa 16:11   And Samuyl said to Yishai, "Are all the young men here?" Then he said, "There remains yet the youngest, and there he is, keeping the sheep." And Samuyl said to Yishai, "Send and bring him. For we will not sit down till he comes here."

1Sa 16:12   So he sent and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, with bright eyes, and good-looking. And YAHAWAH said, "ARISE,  ANOINT HIM; FOR THIS IS THE ONE!"

Isa 11:2   The Spirit of YAHAWAH shall rest upon Him, The Spirit of wisdom and understanding, The Spirit of counsel and might, The Spirit of knowledge and of the Reverence of YAHAWAH.


1Sa 16:13   Then Samuyl took the horn of oil and anointed him in the midst of his brothers; and the Spirit of  YAHAWAH came upon Dawad from that day forward. So Samuyl arose and went to Ramah.

Psa 45:7 You too have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore, YAHAWAH your Father has anointed you with the oil of gladness over your fellow men.

Psa 89:19 Then You spoke in a vision to Your holy one, And said: "I have imparted strength to a youth and not to a warrior. I have exalted a young man above the people.

Psa 89:20   I HAVE FOUND MY SERVANT DAWAD(David The BRANCH of Yishai – see Isa 11:1); With MY HOLY OIL I HAVE ANOINTED HIM,

Hos 3:5   Afterward the children of Yisrayl shall return and seek YAHAWAH  their FATHER and Dawad their king. And will Reverence YAHAWAH and His Righteousness in the latter days.

Yer(Jeremiah) 30:9   But they shall serve YAHAWAH their Father, and Dawad their king, WHOM I WILL RAISE UP FOR THEM

Your Greek Man God Jesus (Ea-Zeus) has nothing to do with the Law & the Prophets(the Torah)
Christianity EtcGood Jesus by Yisraylite(op): 3:33pm On Nov 07, 2009
Sir John Hawkins had the dubious distinction of becoming the first slave-ship captain to bring Africans to the Americas. Hawkins was a religious gentleman who insisted that his crew “serve God daily” and “love another”. His ship, ironically called “the good ship Jesus,” left the shores of his native England for Africa in October 1562. He arrived at Sierra Leone, and in a short time he had three hundred blacks in his possession. Hawkins claimed to have acquired them “partly by sword and partly by other means.”


The Good Ship Jesus | The Beginning of the British Slave Trade

The Good Ship Jesus

What has come to be referred to as "The Good Ship Jesus" was in fact the "Jesus of Lubeck," a 700-ton ship purchased by King Henry VIII from the Hanseatic League, a merchant alliance between the cities of Hamburg and Lubeck in Germany. Twenty years after its purchase the ship, in disrepair, was leant to Sir John Hawkins by Queen Elizabeth.

Hawkins, a cousin of Sir Francis Drake, was granted permission from Queen Elizabeth for his first voyage in 1562. He was allowed to carry Africans to the Americas "with their own free consent" and he agreed to this condition. Hawkins had a reputation for being a religious man who required his crew to "serve God daily" and to love one another. Sir Francis Drake accompanied Hawkins on this voyage and subsequent others. Drake, was himself, devoutly religious. Services were held on board twice a day.

John Hawkins Coat of Arms
A bound slave adorns John Hawkins' coat of arms.
Off the coast of Africa, near Sierra Leone, Hawkins captured 300-500 slaves, mostly by plundering Portugese ships, but also through violence and subterfuge promising Africans free land and riches in the new world. He sold most of the slaves in what is now known as the Dominican Republic. He returned home with a profit and ships laden with ivory, hides, and sugar. Thus began the British slave trade.

On his return to England Queen Elizabeth, livid, assailed Hawkins charging that his endeavor, ", was detestable and would call down vengeance from heaven upon the undertakers." When Elizabeth became fully aware, however, of the profits to be made she joined in partnership with Hawkins and provided him with the "Jesus of Lubeck," a.k.a., "The Good Ship Jesus."

A later slaving expedition in 1567, consisting of five ships and the "Jesus of Lubeck," met with resistance from the Spaniards at St Juan d'Ulloa in Mexico. Since the slave trade was illegal Spanish colonists usually required a charade of force from British ships, after which they would buy slaves at a discount. This time, however, the Spanish attacked the British ships and the "Jesus of Lubeck," cumbersome and difficult to maneuver, was sunk and the crew slaughtered. Hawkins escaped with Drake on a smaller ship.

Hawkins, his piratic ambitions dashed, returned to England and remained there in the service of the Queen. He gained distinction for his pivotal role in defeating the Spanish Armada and was knighted in 1588.
Christianity EtcRe: Will Jesus Ever Come Back? by Yisraylite(m): 3:27pm On Nov 07, 2009
Ea Zeus Christos ( son of Zeus the anionted one) a.k.a Jesus christ (blonde hair,blue eyed white guy)the mythological character created by the Greco -Roman vatican and the Mother church can't come back cos he never left. Don't you see his statues and pictures everywhere? People, mythology ain't real!!!! cool cool cool
Christianity EtcRe: Is Satan Genuinely Evil? by Yisraylite(m): 3:15pm On Nov 07, 2009
Isa 45:7 I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, YAHAWAH, do all these things.'

Deu 32:39 'Now see that I, even I , Am He, And there is no God (EL) with Me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; Nor is there any who can deliver from My hand

Psa 136:5  To Him Who by wisdom made the heavens, For His mercy endures forever

Psa 102:25  Of old You laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands

Isa 44:24 Thus says YAHAWAH, your Redeemer, And He who formed you from the womb: "I AM YAHAWAH, Who makes all things, Who stretches out the heavens all alone, Who spreads abroad the earth by Myself

Satan is actually an obedient Malak (Messenger) of destruction of The Creator, and carries out whatever assignment issued without hesitation.(Job 1:6-9) Man is the only willful disobedient creation of the Most High, Even the sun & moon  obey all the laws of nature given by The Creator

It is Man who is evil and continually sheds blood on this earth,starts wars,robs,steals, rapes etc, mankind is so unjust,you don't know who to trust!!!
Christianity EtcRe: The First Britsh Slave Ship To Reach The Americas Was Called The Good Jesus! by Yisraylite(op): 8:00pm On Mar 03, 2009
@pres-elect cheesy

Another good one ! His name was Captain Newton and his ship was called the Grace of God!!!

You guys are cracking me up!!!!


LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right For A Chisten To Have More Then One Wife? by Yisraylite(m): 7:54pm On Mar 03, 2009
@tpia

Na by force to follow your perverted gospel? Today you're ifa priest, tomorrow you're sango adherent, now you want to start teaching others bible!
Is there any form of 419 some Nigerians don't do!

Now that's some funny S#)&  grin grin grin grin
LMAO!!!!!!!
Christianity EtcRe: A Question For You - Huxley by Yisraylite(m): 4:30pm On Mar 03, 2009
GOD is simply trash, a figment of man's imagination, created by man and used to instill fear and incite control among the populace of the human race cool cool cool cool

cheers to the good life!!! wink
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right For A Chisten To Have More Then One Wife? by Yisraylite(m): 4:22pm On Mar 03, 2009
If your under the vatican's sodomite doctrine then you should not have more than one wife, but you could have mistresses, male and female whores on the side ,cheat on your one wife preferably infecting her with the aids virus and all other known STDs also grin

cheers to the good life!!!
Yisraryl
Christianity EtcRe: The First Britsh Slave Ship To Reach The Americas Was Called The Good Jesus! by Yisraylite(op): 4:17pm On Mar 03, 2009
imaginary African allies ?

Imaginary being the keyword grin

@tpia
Cheers!!!
Christianity EtcRe: The First Britsh Slave Ship To Reach The Americas Was Called The Good Jesus! by Yisraylite(op): 11:36pm On Mar 02, 2009
smiley smiley wink smiley
Christianity EtcRe: I Hold A Deep Grudge Against Jesus by Yisraylite(m): 11:34pm On Mar 02, 2009
The first British slave ship was called the Good Jesus, Now all these brain washed Black people are following this bytch - man around crying to the image of a blue eyed blond batty man cheesy-
Christianity EtcRe: I Hold A Deep Grudge Against Jesus by Yisraylite(m): 11:30pm On Mar 02, 2009
grin shocked shocked grin

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