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You obviously did not know he (Obi) is a Thief too:

Here,let me help you:

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/07/gov-obi-in-the-web-of-n250-million-controversy/amp/

It was even on nairaland:

https://www.nairaland.com/7230175/peter-obi-n250m-money-laundering

That should help you to stop insinuating he is not corrupt

Alexmani:
He never stole any 250m bro. His meeting with Wike etc is not out of place since OBJ engineered the meeting, again he has long scheduled meetings in Europe, Canada and United States from now till 3rd of September. So it wasn't a sole purpose bro. Tnat guy is very simple and give the country different reasons to elect a leader for the people. Whatever you think about him can't cancel his personality. Peter Obi is a Prudent spender and most politicians won't like to work with him. Go and ask about him please

Bro,you have only managed to corroborate what I am saying! That they are all one and the same.

Let me for the benefit of those following this thread add more links for Peter Obi's corruption records:

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/07/gov-obi-in-the-web-of-n250-million-controversy/amp/

Even from nairaland

https://www.nairaland.com/7230175/peter-obi-n250m-money-laundering


Thankfully,'we' have managed to show that they are all corrupt including Peter Obi.

Thank you Sir

Arysexy:
Mumu

Tell us what you understood from the Pandora take?

That he transferred his company shares to his daughter to enable him focus on governing the state is corruption?

Then Atiku and Tinubu are arch -corrupt BC they were also mentioned in Pandora aside their many corrupt and drug issues

You want to 'Try' Obi first? Did you really write that! I guess you've been living under a rock!

Wakey wakey,he was a governor for 8 Years! And he has been exposed to be corrupt.

Let me help you:

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/487997-pandora-papers-inside-peter-obis-secret-businesses-and-how-he-broke-the-law.html

Go read that since you are obviously not well informed.

Wait till campaign starts! He'll be fully exposed because of ignorant folks like you

Arysexy:
Even if he is d same, for the fact that PDP and APC have failed, we won't reward them with re-election. We will try Obi first before crucifying him.

Your desperate logic is wack

This is precisely what we have been telling the deluded Obedient folks trying to make him look different! He is exactly like them and no Messiah. Look at how comfortable he looks among his PDP kinsmen! LP is PDP lite!

He belongs to the same political class that have destroyed the country particularly in the last 22 years. The same guys will bankrole his election and demand payback. Who would you expect him to rule with in the 'Not even possible" scenario that he wins! The same recycled failed and corrupt politicians.No wonder the Pandora Papers showed he is as corrupt as the rest of them! Imagine using the details of his then teenage daughter and wife's details to steal billions from Anambra's States' commonwealth.

Thankfully,he'll score a lot of own goals(mistakes that will reveal him for who he is) before the election as well as the Politically damaging utterances and actions of his supporters! So,many hitherto supporters will change their minds

Throwback:
Veteran journalist condemns Nigerian politicians for meeting abroad
On her part, a veteran journalist and Chief Executive Officer of Arise TV, Ijeoma Nwogwuwgwu, has condemned Nigerian politicians for having meetings outside the country.

Sharing a picture of the Wike's PDP faction meeting the party's presidential candidate, Atiku Abubakar, Nwogwugwu wrote on her Instagram page:



https://www.instagram.com/p/ChtDOVVIpLU/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

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I'm so happy that someone here is able to see the larger picture! It is PDPs vote that is being contested,it's not APCs vote. If LP wins Rivers it's advantage Tinubu and a big minus for Atiku. Can you see that all the personalities involved are PDP stakeholders? SS has always voted for PDP, Buhari twice didn't need SE and SS votes to win the presidency,Tinubu doesn't! And now that vote will be taken from PDP to LP which is a weakling in the North! Atiku's chances are over! Obis votes will eventually be a waste as his Results from the North will be like the Ekiti and Osun States elections

Indispensable85:
All these calculations are going to weaken the pdp and reduces the chances of Atiku eventually. It's still an advantage to Tinubu las las.

Exactly what I've been saying here on nairaland for weeks now. Check my posts

AsabaPropertyAg:
2023: How Peter Obi will catapult Tinubu to victory- Omokri reveals.

Former presidential aide, Reno Omokri says the All Progressives Congress (APC) presidential candidate, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu would benefit greatly from the Labour Party (LP) Presidential candidate, Peter Obi’s race.

Speaking through his Facebook page, the outspoken ex-presidential aide said that the votes Obi will likely get are votes that would have gone to PDP.

According to him, the supporters of Peter Obi have been carried away by wild emotions, saying that Tinubu is a master tactician who knows Peter Obi cannot win. And he knows that very, very little of Peter’s votes, if any at all, will come from him. He is aware that Peter is eating into the PDP’s votes”.

Omokri wrote ” the biggest beneficiary of Peter Obi’s Presidential race is Tinubu, not Obidients. Peter won’t affect APC’s votes. The votes he will likely get are votes that would have naturally gone to PDP, including in the Southeast, some non-Yoruba Lagos votes, a chunk of Benue votes, and a few votes in peripheral states.

“There is a lot of hysteria, which has blinded the eyes of the core Obidients. That uncontrollable emotion makes them blind to a lot of things. One of which is that the Yoruba have never voted for a non-Yoruba when a Yoruba is in the race. It does not matter whether or not they like the person.

“Another is that the Hausa and Fulani have only ever voted for a Muslim, whether he be from the North or South. You might raise the issue of Jonathan. I was one of the strategists behind President Jonathan’s 2011 victory and we lost in the North. What we were looking for was 25%, which we got in 2011, but could not get in 2015. In fact, we got less than 20% in Kano, Bauchi, and Yobe in 2011.

“Tinubu is a master tactician. He knows Peter Obi cannot win. And he knows that very, very little of Peter’s votes, if any at all, will come from him. He is aware that Peter is eating into the PDP’s votes. So, he will promote Obi’s candidacy through proxies. Because that is one of his paths to victory! All he would ask from his Southeast foot soldiers is that they should get him 25% of the votes in at least 2 Southeastern states. And he will get it in Imo and Ebonyi, by hook or crook.”

http://www.politico.ng/2023-how-peter-obi-will-catapult-tinubu-to-victory-omokri-reveals/

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Hello!!

Reno Omokri views align with mine and my posts here on nairaland. Where I disagree with him is that Obi is conniving with Tinubu. Refer to my 'posts' here on nairaland for my opinions that match with Reno's.

AsabaPropertyAg:
2023: How Peter Obi will catapult Tinubu to victory- Omokri reveals.

Former presidential aide, Reno Omokri says the All Progressives Congress (APC) presidential candidate, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu would benefit greatly from the Labour Party (LP) Presidential candidate, Peter Obi’s race.

Speaking through his Facebook page, the outspoken ex-presidential aide said that the votes Obi will likely get are votes that would have gone to PDP.

According to him, the supporters of Peter Obi have been carried away by wild emotions, saying that Tinubu is a master tactician who knows Peter Obi cannot win. And he knows that very, very little of Peter’s votes, if any at all, will come from him. He is aware that Peter is eating into the PDP’s votes”.

Omokri wrote ” the biggest beneficiary of Peter Obi’s Presidential race is Tinubu, not Obidients. Peter won’t affect APC’s votes. The votes he will likely get are votes that would have naturally gone to PDP, including in the Southeast, some non-Yoruba Lagos votes, a chunk of Benue votes, and a few votes in peripheral states.

“There is a lot of hysteria, which has blinded the eyes of the core Obidients. That uncontrollable emotion makes them blind to a lot of things. One of which is that the Yoruba have never voted for a non-Yoruba when a Yoruba is in the race. It does not matter whether or not they like the person.

“Another is that the Hausa and Fulani have only ever voted for a Muslim, whether he be from the North or South. You might raise the issue of Jonathan. I was one of the strategists behind President Jonathan’s 2011 victory and we lost in the North. What we were looking for was 25%, which we got in 2011, but could not get in 2015. In fact, we got less than 20% in Kano, Bauchi, and Yobe in 2011.

“Tinubu is a master tactician. He knows Peter Obi cannot win. And he knows that very, very little of Peter’s votes, if any at all, will come from him. He is aware that Peter is eating into the PDP’s votes. So, he will promote Obi’s candidacy through proxies. Because that is one of his paths to victory! All he would ask from his Southeast foot soldiers is that they should get him 25% of the votes in at least 2 Southeastern states. And he will get it in Imo and Ebonyi, by hook or crook.”

http://www.politico.ng/2023-how-peter-obi-will-catapult-tinubu-to-victory-omokri-reveals/

Reno Omokri must have been reading my posts here on nairaland. Where I disagree with him is that Obi is conniving with Tinubu. Refer to my 'posts' here on nairaland for my opinions that match with Reno's.

AsabaPropertyAg:
2023: How Peter Obi will catapult Tinubu to victory- Omokri reveals.

Former presidential aide, Reno Omokri says the All Progressives Congress (APC) presidential candidate, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu would benefit greatly from the Labour Party (LP) Presidential candidate, Peter Obi’s race.

Speaking through his Facebook page, the outspoken ex-presidential aide said that the votes Obi will likely get are votes that would have gone to PDP.

According to him, the supporters of Peter Obi have been carried away by wild emotions, saying that Tinubu is a master tactician who knows Peter Obi cannot win. And he knows that very, very little of Peter’s votes, if any at all, will come from him. He is aware that Peter is eating into the PDP’s votes”.

Omokri wrote ” the biggest beneficiary of Peter Obi’s Presidential race is Tinubu, not Obidients. Peter won’t affect APC’s votes. The votes he will likely get are votes that would have naturally gone to PDP, including in the Southeast, some non-Yoruba Lagos votes, a chunk of Benue votes, and a few votes in peripheral states.

“There is a lot of hysteria, which has blinded the eyes of the core Obidients. That uncontrollable emotion makes them blind to a lot of things. One of which is that the Yoruba have never voted for a non-Yoruba when a Yoruba is in the race. It does not matter whether or not they like the person.

“Another is that the Hausa and Fulani have only ever voted for a Muslim, whether he be from the North or South. You might raise the issue of Jonathan. I was one of the strategists behind President Jonathan’s 2011 victory and we lost in the North. What we were looking for was 25%, which we got in 2011, but could not get in 2015. In fact, we got less than 20% in Kano, Bauchi, and Yobe in 2011.

“Tinubu is a master tactician. He knows Peter Obi cannot win. And he knows that very, very little of Peter’s votes, if any at all, will come from him. He is aware that Peter is eating into the PDP’s votes. So, he will promote Obi’s candidacy through proxies. Because that is one of his paths to victory! All he would ask from his Southeast foot soldiers is that they should get him 25% of the votes in at least 2 Southeastern states. And he will get it in Imo and Ebonyi, by hook or crook.”

http://www.politico.ng/2023-how-peter-obi-will-catapult-tinubu-to-victory-omokri-reveals/

Yes oooo! My Brother! It's all in God's hands!

Polchiz:
It is alright, let us wait and see. Only God knows the future.

Sir,Atiku will win NE,NW massively that alone has nullified all of Obi's southern votes,have you forgotten Buhari won twice without SE and SS votes!

He needed some more SW votes to win because an Hausa man was in contention in 2019 and a PDP incumbent was there in 2015,with these out of the way,Atiku will not need victory in the SW!

Atiku will win 65% of NC votes too! He'll also get needed 25% of votes in needed southern States. Go and check the voters numbers of NW and NE! It will be an annihilation!

Those who voted for Tinubu in the North will vote for Atiku, remember APC will only be a bystander! He doesn't have a Goodluck Jonathan structure for the fight,in fact by then his campaign will be too broke for another election.

Let me tell you a truth Sir,Igbos have not developed the needed level of reapproachment with North(let me put it that way) They trust a Yoruba Man than an Ibo man,if I sadly may say this.They love our accomodating nature,the fact that many of us share same religion (Islam) as them,we often do not fight(we don't attack them),we even intermarry more with them than Igbo people etc and etc

The southern vote will not get Obi anywhere while though Atiku will lose in the south it won't be by same margin by which Obi will lose in the North

Note this down, Sir

Polchiz:
So if there is rerun between Atiku and Obi, how can Atiku win?
SW will give their votes to him as a punishment for Obi or what?
Because if Atiku cannot win SE, SS,NC and SW in a rerun, I wonder how he will win.
SS and SE alone gave him over 80% of his total votes in 2019.
He didn't even win his polling unit.

Thank you for your contribution, Sir.

Let's assume(a big assumption) you are right in your assessment,Now an Obi Vs Atiku,who will win? Obviously Atiku! So,this still confirm Obi has no chance at all at winning! He is only a spoiler!

But my assessment is that in case of a run off,it will be Atiku Vs Tinubu and Atiku will win! Because all the votes Obi took will return to him

But if Tinubu wins outrightly Obi is also the reason by taking the southern votes from Atiku

Polchiz:
I like your analysis but something is missing.
You didn't get it right with North.
Obi will get at least 45% votes in Kaduna. I am ready to bet. He will equally get at least the required 25% in NC.
Tinubu has only SW in his pocket.
The North are voting for Atiku and Kwankwaso will split the votes in Kano, Jigawa and Katsina.
If at all there will be rerun, it will be between Obi and Atiku.
Tinubu will not do well in the North.

It's nice having a constructive and informed discussion with you Sir. I currently live and work in the SW,been here for a while now.

I once again respectfully disagree with you that Tinubu will not win bulk vote in SW! The results of Osun and Ekiti elections is pointer to LP results in SW apart from Lagos! He'll do well in Lagos because Lagos consists of about 50% non-yorubas(Every Nigerian tribe). PDP has always done well here but for LP in other SW states,the votes will be abysmal limited to SE and perhaps SS folks living there,in other SW states as you leave Lagos the number of non-yorubas decrease exponentially,where I am in SW currently,SE folks do not number up to 10%! Tinubu will win SW the way Obi will win SE,it's only Atiku that will not get such anywhere,this is the political wisdom of the Muslim-Muslim ticket.

You are concerned that I wrote off Obi,at almost 50 years of age,and having worked and lived virtually everywhere in Nigeria and working in the Financial sector where we follow the money and know things that are not open to all and having followed the Nigeria electoral circumstances,I can repeat Obi has absolutely no pathway to victory!

Sir,it takes decades (30 years upwards) of strategic Political and network development to win in Nigeria and lots of give and take! Atiku has paid this price, Tinubu was a senator in 1991! He has paid his dues,he was with Abiola in the trenches! SE wasted 22 years with PDP! They did not play the game. Obi has no network that can win Nigeria's presidency and he doesn't have the structure. The only person that fit the description but won is Jonathan! But he rode on Obasanjo/Yaradua/PDP structures! Particularly the Northern structure that is responsible for 2/3 of the votes! Sir,the North of Nigeria requires special preparation,alliances etc to win votes! These folks do not know labour party and the kind of network and structure for this cannot be built in a few months! Elections is February!

The so called Obi movement is a Southern phenomenon! Reach out to people in Yola,Gombe,Damaturu, mention Obi,they'll just hiss at you!

They are not bothered by things you guys here are concerned about,I know this is sad! That is why when some folks during the Endsars riot thought a revolution was here some of us were just laughing at the ignorance of southern folks about Nigeria! The North were going about their lives peacefully.

I'll go further Sir,if SE keeps playing their politics as it is ,an Ibo man will not rule Nigeria,take it to the bank .In 2015,Yorubas went into alliance with the North,we got VP post,now we are about to get the presidency again,second time in just 23 years,SE should study how we do it. Nobody will give you leadership position on a platter! This is sadly how it works in Nigeria.Many SE folks if asked would have staked their lives Tinubu will not win APC primary,how wrong they are! They have not learned from this!

This is how Kwakwanso described it last month

"South-east At Bottom Line In Politics; They Need To Learn"

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/07/2023-south-east-at-bottom-line-in-politics-they-need-to-learn-kwankwaso/

They need to learn! When a Northerner like Kwakwanso speaks,you listen! Because they have perfect understanding of Nigerian system

(Please read what he said)

Do you know why again Religion will not move SW folks both young and Old will vote Tinubu, consider this: Twice APC had a Pastor (Christian) as VP candidate,did that make SE and SS vote APC? Sir,Buhari didn't need SE and SS votes to win, Tinubu does not need it! They know what they need from the North! Sir,the Muslim-Muslim ticket is a winner! Even Atiku knows! It is not a hindrance,if Tinubu has chosen Adeboye as his VP pick,SE and SS will not vote for him and he knows he'll not lose the Yoruba vote,just watch!

Best regards

Begoodtoothers:
I understand your perspective and to a large extent, you're right but I just want to emphasize at the bolded.

1. 25% of votes won't be a problem if LP adopts the illegal methods of winning Nigeria election. Imagine if LP engages in Vote buying and gets involved in vote buying in the North. then it's a game changer you would agree.

2. I'm largely not after the probabilities of other candidates except mine, so I strategize along this line. For example, you'd agree with me that alot of new voters (especially young ones) did so because of Obi.
And please, I can tell you that it's the elderly folks of Yoruba origin that are largely Batified not the younger ones and we know this. It's difficult to convince old folks to change their habits, so Obi along with other celebs encouraged their youthful fans to get their pvcs. So, Tinubu takes the votes from the elderly while Obi takes votes belonging to youths. This situation won't help Tinubu and he's situation is worse because he's not expecting to get a descent amount of votes from the NC, SE and SS. He can't even campaign there but Atiku can.

Always remember that Atiku and Tinubu won't get bloc votes from their regions. Only Obi can boast about having SS and SE votes. And Obi doesn't need to win the NW and NE If he wins SS, SE and parts of NC which is very possible. Remember that this same man gave Atiku over 8m Southern votes in 2019. Do you think he'll lose that support? The M.M tickets of Tinubu restricts his campaign.

Yes, Yorubas may not vote Obi massively which is why he's concentrating on the many minority groups in Nigeria. If you add dem up, their voting population is definitely greater than most ethnic groups. You live in the North, so you'd understand. So, if Yorubas don't vote along religious lines, others will especially those Christians of Northern origin who ve suffered much (people of Southern Kaduna as a example).

I'm not writing Tinubu or Atiku off like you're doing with Obi but I'm focused on places and people that can be won over.

Bro,I appreciate your matured and civil approach to this discussion,I wish we all in this platform can emulate this.

Sir,since 1999 SS and SE votes have traditionally been given to PDP,no splits!! Not even with SE inspired APGA stopped overwhelming majority of presidential votes from going to PDP! So,Obi being from the SE and a Christian will perform very well. He will win SE with a landslide,BUT will face a massive challenge in the SS! APC will get 25% in Edo(Oshiomole factor),Bayelsa(Timipre Sylva etc factor) and Delta(Omo Agege factor). PDP will do well in Delta(Okowa factor) and will split the votes almost equally with Obi,so Obi will win SS marginally.
I am a Yoruba man Sir,the SW is another ball game.Obi will do well in Lagos,PDP has always done well in Lagos,Tinubu will win Lagos marginally BUT win all other SW states by a massive landslide similar to how OBI will win SE,don't doubt this Sir.Religion will not help OBI in SW! You can hold on to your opinion but when the results is out you'll at least know someone has told you how it'll be. We are YORUBA first, religion comes next! Our Yorubaness comes first,it's okay if you describe it as tribal sentiments! We will vote Tinubu massively so at end of the day,Obis vote in SW will be marginal.

Sir,the only place OBi will get appreciable votes in the North is Abuja. He won't get the constitutionally votes of 25% in NW and NE states,he'll probably get in Taraba,Nasarawa and Plateau. That's all!

So, essentially his work is cut out for him! He doesn't have a problem in the South. Its the North that will sink his presidency!

Datti has got no weight! I'm certain if before Obi selected him as his VP pick I tell you about a Datti in the North you'll agree he is a paper Weight,he can't sell Obis candidacy in the North for a party without public office holders and absolutely no structure in an environment markedly different from the South where Social media etc can't cover a lot of ground.

In the Financial industry where I work,and having been born in the North and worked as a professional,I can tell you what works in the North when it comes to politics is different from the South.Also,they don't engage like we do in the south e.g Consider the Endsars riot,while the south burned,life/activities continued the same in the North.

My conclusion (my opinion) respectfully Sir,Obi will snatch the traditional PDP votes in the South(SE,SW,SS) Tinubu will win SW massively (just wait till campaign starts,you'll SEE it clearly). Atiku's fate is sealed in the south by Obi,Wike and others knows this!

If Tinubu wins the presidency,Obi will be the reason because even the Northern votes that wil go to OBi would have been for Atiku.

The Political strategy behind Tinubu Muslim-Muslim ticket will decimate votes for Atiku in NE,while the political position of APC (Governors,senators etc) in NW will give Tinubu victory while NC will be shared. There is a high probability that Obis vote will lead to a run-off between Tinubu and Atiku while Obi drops out.

Sir,Obi has no realistic chance for the presidency! None at all! He'll come a distant third.

Best Regards

Begoodtoothers:
I'll respectfully engage you and answer your questions, be you Batified or Articulated. If you want this conversation to hold in a civic manner, then no tantrums.

Now, believe it or not, 3 main factors will determine who becomes the next President, namely religion, credibility and region. Based on this premise, Let me answer your questions.

1. As rightly stated by you, Southern Nigeria( East, South and parts of the West) is predominantly populated by Christains. Remember that Obi is the only christain left in this race that has three Muslim candidates, with the incumbent also a Muslim. Like Tinubu who's using Shettima to take Northern votes from Atiku, Obi is consolidating his stronghold(christains from all religious backgrounds and new PVC registrants) in the South. My Friend, charity begins at home. Obi isn't wasting his time visiting churches o. Every vote matters.

2. You'll agree with me that Northern and South West Zones have their votes divided between the 3 candidates. But there are Obidient support groups in nearly every state in this country. They are testing their popularity by using walkouts. Yes, those workout held in Nassawara, Cross River and IMO state are initiated to test "waters". In addition, many core northerners are obidients silently. There will be a walkout for obidients in Kano soon.

4. Only Obi can lay claim to the densely dominated christain regions of SE and SS. That's the structure and it took less than 3months to build it

3. Datti has the job of visiting mosques. Not all Muslims will accept Obi's visit( non Muslims are seen as infidels) to a mosque. But if an imam request for such, he'll accept it. But Datti will blend in effortlessly, though he may not have much success but we move.

Obi just doesn't get it. He is on course to get a landslide in SE,appreciable votes in SS and a good showing in SW. He is wasting his time visiting churches in the south and having meetings such as this with politically irrelevant people.

The question is what is he doing in Gombe? Who is preaching LP in Darazo local government in Bauchi? Across large swathe of this country they do not even recognize Labour Party's Logo! There is no grassroots mobilization that leads to electoral success,there are no LP representative to mobilize! They have never voted LP,they don't even know a party called LP exists! And these folks cannot be educated,informed or reached online!

Why is he not visiting mosques and opinion leaders in NW,NC and NE?

Well,the answer,he has no structure! So he is going around in circles.


[quote author=Begoodtoothers post=115997015]https://twitter.com/NgLabour/status/1562164493211377665?t=ywlFhf5SHizY435F7QUrRQ&s=19[/quote]

I'm happy to realise highly Politically informed and intelligent folks like you are here and making your impressions felt.

Your write up was on point and highly informative.

ceaser:
Okay. Here is the plot, or so it seems.

Flashback to 2015. There has been serious uproar about how GEJ was handling his presidency vis-a-vis insecurity and the corruption amongst his ministers especially that of the oil minister and Stella oduah. The problem that seemed to stand out from others was the supposed overbearing attitude of his wife (Patience Jonathan) that made many to make her the butt of jokes and even GEJ was blamed for handing over governance to her.

She was truly overbearing because this was reflected at a PDP stakeholders meeting when Amaechi Chibuike (the present minister for works) was talking at the podium. Patience Jonathan went straight to the podium and snatched the microphone from Amaechi and began to berate him. Amaechi, pain and embarrassed, could not do much because she is the president's wife so he went to sit down but later moved out of the meeting. This was all televised on national TV. Although other untoward attitudes of Patience had unsettled some PDP stalwarts before this incidence, but that one with Amaechi marked the start of disintegration of the PDP under GEJ. The PDP governors of the North had been considering backing out of the party. Now a willing tool in the person of Amaechi had been discovered.

Tinubu (of ACN as at then) was watching all these as it transpired. Then he noted the friction between Amaechi and patience and also the already weakening alliance of PDP governors of the North. He decided that was a moment to strike!

That week that Patience Jonathan shamed Amaechi at the podium, the latter was invited by Tinubu and then the various defections and counter PDP moves began. Then what followed was the alliance talks to form the APC from ACN of the North (which received majority of the disgruntled PDP northern governors) and ACN of the south which already had strong presence within the atates of the South west. Amaechi who was hitherto a strong PDP link and PDP stalwart in the south south and south east regions had been shamed by Patience and was now a potential weak link to the party in that region. Tinubu approached him and formed an alliance with him, so began the war to bring down the ruling party.

Fast forward to 2022 and a similar trend is playing out. Wike incontrovertibly is a strong man to be reckoned with in PDP, for it was him who provided the emotional and financial war chest all those times that PDP flimsily hung on to relevance. He kept the spirit of the party alive all through these past years when even GEJ who is an ex-president on the party could not muster his own strenght and relevance to pull the party together and hold the people united. Wike braved it all and held the party to be relevant in tbe South South and South East. He had alliances with Makinde of Oyo and kept in touch with the vocal Ayodele Fayose of Ekiti in the south west, who also vowed to be a die hard PDP man.

All these while Atiku, who is notorious for whimsically adulterating political parties like a petulant child changes toys, was lounging in Dubai. And when the time came for Wike (who now believes that he had the right to the presidency on the platform of the party he has held together), and truly who wouldn't aspire for such too, Atiku jetted back into Nigeria to snatch that moment from Wike, enabled by his northern brother who Wike had also trusted until the last minute when he stepped down for Atiku, paving the way for him (Atiku) to have a majority vote against Wike.

Wike has the arsenal to decimate the PDP as far as the south south and partially the south east is concerned and this is a fact the Northern PDP should realize. Wike is pained and rightfully so on three fronts:

First, he felt cheated that someone who was not with him all the years he invested into the party came overnight and clinched the slot from him accompanied by the betrayal of Tambuwal which allowed Atiku to win the primaries. And before you justify Tambuwal's betrayal as "his choice to support whoever he wants", know that he and Wike reached an understanding of alliance up till the last minute of his defection to Atiku's side. I can't think of any way Wike annoyed him right there at the venue of the primaries to do such at the last minute. It will have been more humane (this is not to say that politicians have humane attributes though, but there is even a code of honour amongst thieves) of Tambueal to have made his mind know from day one so that Wike could have been given a chance to reconsider his options before the primaries.

Second, the unwritten zoning agreement within the party which if strictly adhered to, should favour the unanimous emergence of Wike as a Southern aspirant on the party platform has just been broken with the insistence of Atiku to contest the primaries.

Third, an undeserving Atiku after winning the primaries amidst backstabbing should as a matter of sportsmanship, akin to what Tinubu did, approached the other contestants especially Wike and forged a proper alliance with him. This alliance should possibly include the promise of the vice presidency slot to him, irrespective of the fact that Wkie publicly declared that he will never be a second hand man (vice president) in Nigeria. But Atiku made no such attempt. Even after a party committee was set up to chose between Wike and Ifeanyi Okowa, at which point Atiku had the free pass to appease Wike, he still decided to chose Okowa. This is of course apparent in Atiku's fear that Wike is a man like him - difficult, egoistic, rebellious, corrupt, sometimes recalcitrant and a potential troublemaker; all problems that Obasanjo had from Atiku as his vice president. So Atiku will not love to have the same sword he used passed over his own head, thus his choice of Ifeanyi Okowa, a more malleable person, as his running mate.

Now Tinubu has seen this crack and like a reharsh of 2015 strategy, has gone for the southern strongman of the party, with the hopes of forging an alliance and decimating the chances of the party in the south south, and maybe in the south east, come 2023 general elections.

I sincerely feel that if BAT could claim "investment in the APC" as a reason for a right of passage for him to emerge a candidate in his party, why can't Wike also claim same in PDP? This is irrespective of the fact that this strategy may be counterproductive as it did with the APC who lost the chance to field an egghead like Osinbajo as her candidate, a choice which would have prevented the problems associated with a Muslim-Muslim ticket and a move which would as well placed the APC a formidable opponent towards the rising popularity of Peter Obi who many is seeing as a viable alternative to the vibrancy, great health, oratory prowess and youthful strenght that they were denied in Osinbajo the moment he was stopped from emerging a candidate of the APC.

But at this point, an egoistic Wike will not mind sinking the PDP just so to prove his point. And an equally egoistic Atiku will not mind pushing his luck to the last just so to prove that Wike is irrelevant. Two points of return has been passed. The first point of repair was immediate post primaries when Atiku could have appeased Wike with something as ordinary as an official visit to him in Rivers state, the second point of repair being his chance to choose Wike as running mate. Sadly a point of no return has been reached and for the two giants, is a fight to the finish.




While your claim of placeholder deserves consideration, you are indeed wrong in the bolded. Yar'Adua had what is called Mennier's disease which had many complications associated with it, renal problems included. It was just a matter of time before the inevitable happened.

Tinubu on the other hand appears to be suffering from an early onset of the problems of advancing age. Some people like OBJ, are blessed with delayed onset of these inevitables. What this means is that there is no chance for rapid deterioration in health like it happened in Yar'Adua's case. So BAT may go an uneventful 8 years.

But truly, I still have my concerns, for an ailing BAT is incomparable to an energetic Òsínbàjó and Peter Òbí. However, time is the only referee in this instance.

Having said that, I hope that whoever clinches this position between the duo of Tinubu or Peter Obi should as a matter of urgency start moves, subtle, covert or otherwise to commence true federalism if he really wants to show Nigerians that he has their best interests at heart.

The productive people are bleeding and the goose that lays the golden egg is being starved. And this is serious injustice that must be addressed first to ensure that every other thing falls in line. Obasanjo brought some semblance of balance into the polity when he became the president and the peace was apparent in his reign.

True federalism will significantly reduce the power in the centre, thereby reducing the perennial struggle for the seat in Abuja between the various ethnicities and nationalities in this country. A sanwó-olú in Lagos will not be desperate to clinch the seat in Aṣọ Rock because the monies there will not even be worth the trouble. He will prefer to see the presidency more as prestige than as enrichment. He will rather stay in Lagos where the money is and the citizens will also be a winner because they can hold their governor who is closer to them in a small Lagos to account better than they can do to a Sanwó Olú in a larger, more difficult to administer Nigeria.

Also true federalism could be a first baby steps to regional system of governance that brought the much needed developments to all the regions at their own pace in those previous golden years of Nigeria. No thanks to Aguiyi-Ironsi who destroyed such lofty and great arrangement that plunged us back into the abbyss.

True federalism will ensure the North adopt the trajectory for development, away from this current mode of paratism which their leaders have kept the citizens in falsely believing is the way to live their lives. With federalism, the North will see a thriving, non-religious extremist states thriving and to avoid going hungry because the handouts from the federation account is no longer forthcoming, the citizens will be irked to push their leaders and reconsider a way to fully maximizer their own potentials of religious Ness,
agriculture, culture, solid minerals and tourism to also generate wealth for their region. There is a country in Eastern Africa whose Muslim population does not go to mecca for their hajj. They created their own hajj in their country and they're fairing well. A religiously tolerant, beautiful, digital, literal and modern Northern Nigeria could work to create a hajj for Nigerian moslems in the North and before you know it, the entire subsaharan Africa and Africa at large could soon start seeing Northern Nigeria as a viable, religiously acceptable hajj destination for those not able to afford the financial demands and stress associated to pilgrimage to Mecca.

If we experiment with true federalism for some years, we can decide if it is best we retain it or move again to trying out regional system.

You have a perfect understanding of what's at play.

He's seen that Tinubu is most likely the winner,he can see that Obi has destroyed Atiku's chances in the South. Tinubu knows he can't win Rivers state all he wants is 25% mandatory constitutionally required votes.

That,Wike can provide. Also,Wike will not avail PDP billions to campaign with which will be a massive blow to Atiku.

This is what those Obedient folks don't understand.

tesppidd:
For Wike, survival after 2023 is paramount on his mind not all these party loyalty bullshiit..

He saw a good opportunity to align with the candidate whom he projects will win 2023 and wouldn't let go of that opportunity.

That is his alibi.

He has the opportunity now to work with the candidate likey to win, so he does not even want peace and settlement.

Wike knows that after he steps down as Governor in 2023, his most caring and loving visitors would not be his current swarm of foot soldiers and asss kissers in Rivers and beyond,

but the mean mugging faces of Mr Aldulrasheed Bawa and his boys and surely that is not the sort of company he would love to keep.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/08/2023-tinubu-meets-wike-makinde-ortom-in-london/

The strategic way the game is played. Not people who celebrate when a billboard is erected or a party office is opened

ismoney:
In the forthcoming 2023 Presidential Election, Peter Obi will conquer a lot of States as follows:

All of South East - five States.

All of South South- Six States.

In the South West- Four States.

In the North Central- Four States.

This is total of 19 States.

Peter Obi will win the Federal Capital Territory.

In the North West, Peter Obi will win at least 20% to 30% of the entire vote.

In the North East, he will win at least 30% of the entire vote.

God bless Nigeria.