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makazona:
@Ymodulus, you are still using xmas instead of christmas

where?

ylordy:
Christianity is never a religion

Then what is it?

zeb04:
Tthe father went to far.burning certificate and shutting them permanently from their mum....that was too much.

If I were in your shoe,I'd do worse

Thank you. I love you better than your parents and if you are married better than your hubby.

You deserve an award for this post

@Lanxlot

Its funny how you myopically read my reply and generating questions to which have been answered already in same post I made.

Bushasha!!!!

Donsheddy:
Thats not true. He is not a wicked God because he is the one that gave you the life your living and he knows exactly when to call you back home.

You have no proof to your statement. Or can you prove your assertion? Do so if yes

"Any fool knows men and women think differently at times, but the biggest difference is this. Men forget, but never forgive; women forgive, but never forget." -Thom Merrilin

It takes a strong person to say sorry, and an ever stronger person to forgive. ~ Unknown

There is no correlation with your quote and the the girl's story. As she never stated that her father apologized. So that invalidates your quote.

The silly/stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.

The above qoute was made by Thomas Szasz. But I disagree with Thomas.

Thomas Szasz, M.D a Psychiatrist and writer of over 35 books made that statement, if you are on reddit.com ( America's biggest forum equivalent to nairaland ) you will see a lot of argument and debate as to that statement.

MizMyColi I do have to say that the traditional method of “forgiveness” we’ve been using in the Western world just doesn’t work. It’s flawed.

Forgiveness in English is equivalent to the Word translation PONO. The Hawaiians uses ho’oponopono.

The word pono has no good translation in English. It’s the feeling of congruency and calmness, that everything feels right in our world. It’s like feeling so totally at peace with a person or situation that nothing needs to be said. That’s pono. And Ho’oponopono means to become doubly pono.

When you forgive others using ho’oponopono, you feel calm and clear about them. You are free to re-establish a relationship with them – or not, as you choose. But whichever you choose, you are totally cleansed of the junk – the resentment, anger, hurt – that previously clogged your system. You don’t end up with the tight-lipped, “Okay I can stand to be in the same room with you” type of forgiveness. Totally cleansed. Calm and clear. Free. Sound interesting?

[s]MayoClinic outlines the benefits of forgiveness as follows:-

Healthier relationships.
Greater spiritual and psychological well-being.
Less anxiety, stress and hostility.
Lower blood pressure.
Fewer symptoms of depression.
Stronger immune system.
Improved heart health.
Higher self-esteem.[/s]

MayoClinic benefits of Non forgiveness is not objective in all case. And one can decide to not forgive and still posses the mayorclinic's listed benefit. So in essence his benefits portrays nothing.

You misunderstand me.
If I decide to forgive a person who clearly doesn't deserve my forgiveness, I'm doing so because I want peace, I don't want my conscience seared. I want to be very much in tune with my humanity. Capsiche? and yes, I am doing them a favor, whether they agree or not. The universe bears witness to that.

The lady did nothing wrong so why should she feel she want don't want to have her conscience seared?

Let's not go into the relationship between Conscience seared and Humanity as this is a field of study not a topic.

Universe bearing witness does not say of your true heart forgiveness. You make it sound like you forgive because you want the universe to bear you witness and not because you truly do want to forgive. So please strike that statement out.

MizMyColi:
If you don't want it, you don't want it. Let him know your stand if you can.
You should make a decision to forgive him and heal from the hurts he's caused you and your sibling.
You'd be doing him a favou[/b]r, yes. But trust me, you'd be doing yourself the [b]greatest favor too.
You don't want to bring in kids into this world while harboring a resentment of sorts towards your Dad or any blood relation for that matter.

Did i hear you say forgive?? After all that?? The subject deserves to even get a court injunction barring her father from the wedding premises/surrounding.

She owes him no favor. How is one's father attending his child's wedding celebration a favor? Care to explain?

To your last statement nothing is wrong there. I wont rather use the word Resentment. I lack the actual word to replace that now. But resentment is a no no.

IDEApro:
APC Dakoku Peterside is holding crusade not campaign in Rivers State.

He appeals more as a pastor than a politician

In a state such as Rivers ( where Christianity is the religion of the majority. ) and a country like Nigeria ( where religion is of vital importance ). Going with your sense of perception, Dakoku is the right candidate to win with a landslide.

we know the bombers

5minsmadness:
50 MILLION NAIRA??!!?!
Lets be real abeg.
Your mom will NEVER forgive you if you don't slap her!

lol

ooman:

Love the quote.

ylordy:
thank you for saying religion

Christianity is also a religion

lanxlot:
lemme assume that Christ wasn't born On 25th december. you see, I av a frnd, he Was born On easter Sunday. so he decided to celebrate his birthday every easter Sundays and not d date of his birth. whats d sin in it?

1. The Bible does not give the date of Jesus’ birth, nor does it say that we should celebrate his birthday.
"The observance of Christmas is not of divine appointment, nor is it of NT [New Testament] origin."”. Instead, an examination of the history of Christmas exposes its roots in pagan religious rites. The Bible shows that we offend God if we try to worship him in a way that he does not approve of.—Exodus 32:5-7

It is a historical fact that Christmas is not the day or the season when Christ was born. So why observe a day that is a lie? Most people do not want to admit this fact. For example, how does the use of Santa Claus depict the birth of Christ? How does the Christmas tree depict Christ? Celebrating Christmas violates at least the First, Second and Third Commandments of God's Ten Commandments. Observing a pagan holiday is a sin. God condemns the worship of pagan gods.

The Bible does not command people to observe the birth of Christ as a holiday. This day, Dec. 25, is the date that has been observed for centuries as a pagan holiday in honor of the pagan sun god. God commands those who want to serve Him not to observe pagan holidays or any custom that breaks His holy laws.

btw, didn't Jesus say to his apostles. "whatever you bind On earth remains bound in heaven and whatever you loose On earth is loosed in heaven? Hence, d apostles I.e, the authorities of d church has decided to celebrate Christ's birth On 25th dec, who are you to object?

Which Apostles are you talking off? Paul? , Silas ? etc? OR you mean the church leaders?

lastmessenger:
Yes it was God that saved you from succeding in you suicide attempt. You need to Thank God for saving your sorry ass.

Mr its seems you didnt get me. There is no God.

After many years of atheism, I have nothing to regret and everything to enjoy. This is the nihility of God. - Ooman

makazona:
so u dnt celebrate christmas?

I dont. How do you expect me to celebrate a pagan festivity?

Christmas celebration is uncalled for. There are evident proofs that Jesus wasnt born on December 25th. The idea of December 25th is the apotheosis of perfidy.

Elantracey:
you can't prove that or can you?

Did you see my scriptural citing? ( The LORD killeth, and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up. - 1 Samuel 2:6 )

Also in the bible book of Job, Satan was said to ask permission from God to punish Job, satan knew God had a protection around Job who was his faithful. From the story we can safely say God here allowed his faithful Pastor to drop dead.

So you're saying it's better for all his years of labour and Christian faith to go to waste instead of him to just go and rest?

1. What makes you feel he labored?
2. What makes you feel he his a christian?
3. What makes you feel he was killed by the death loving God on base of the reasons you gave?

lol, am not justifying anything , am only refuting a claim you can't even prove .

No you weren't. The former was the case here.

Do you know the number of lives he has turned and the impart he has made in them? I guess you have no idea. Did you just mention Michael Jackson ? That's funny

Scam, scam. Impacted what?

You cant compare the death of Michael Jackson to the death of this charlatan. When people like Michael dies, its safe to say the world losses a treasure.

of course I can .

Do

makazona:
but shouldnt we respect christ and make it an exception?

The idea of Christmas is a fraud. Introduced by Pagan, propagated by the Catholics and likes. So there is nothing to respect.

Donsheddy:
The truth is that it was his time to go home and God called him to rest.

Is that the best reply you can give? I hope you know your reply portrays your God as a wicked God?

What determines the time an individual dies.

Elantracey:
First who told you God killed him ?

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In line with the christian / his beliefs, he was killed by his God.

The LORD killeth, and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up. - 1 Samuel 2:6

secondly even if God did , do you know the reason why?

What reason could justify the death of his supposed worshiper or follower. If he his God supreme has he his presented, no reason should warrant him take his followers life.

Do you know whether he was going to make a deadly mistake the minute that could make him lose focus and then take him to hell making all his years of labour go to waste?

Lol!!
You are a comedian Tracey. Deadly Mistake? why is it you christian always try to justify the actions of your God even when its clear such actions are act of wickedness. Madam your God kills at will, cause he his blood thirsty.

For your information that man has lost nothing at because of his death , it's the world and the church that has lost a great treasure .

The world never lost a treasure. When you talk of the death of personalities such as Nelson Mandela, Obama, Michael Jackson etc. There its safe to say the world lost a treasure

There's a reason for everything , you don't know whether God warned him about something before then , you are not even certain what caused Hus death so why blame it on God?

Still trying to justify the wrong doings of your god.

Yea religion is an illusion but Christianity isn't

can you prove this?

Elantracey:
What a place to spend your last minute



Rest in the bossom of your lord sire

Are you serious?

Christians are funny, when something good Happen the attribute it to their supreme illusory creator but when that happening is bad they try to wave it off in a resonating manner.


Another reason I ask myself if the God the Pastor worshipped is a God of Love while kill a man when he his worshipping you.


Religion is just an Illusion

Kachisbarbie:
hahahhaha
Truckpusher is coming for you- okay, that's if he is in the mood...lmao.

*shots fired*

I have to commend you @OP. You must be Nairaland's voluntary sentinel, to have observed all this veraciously.

Iya Loja. Please take it easy..

Those vocabs too string for less privileges like me.

@Mizmycoli

AM here

benebaby77:
Ymodulus, you mean that Ishilove banned the whole you bah? Don’t worry I will avenge for you when I'm in position to do that, lol.


You made mention of 'miracle' and also opined that "miracle and prayer are not proof of God's existence but of gullibility and coincidence".

First let me start thus, what is miracle? Miracle is an act or event that does not follow the natural laws and which is believed to be brought into happening by God. In other words, it is a lucky thing that happens that one did not expect or think was possible.

The later meaning seems to be more relevant to our argument. I won't be mistaken nor would I be wronged if I term this incidence a miraculous one. All the explanation you gave above were just trying to use logic, which is the most analytical tool atheists employed to analyze the illogical incidence. This one happened before me when I was going to ABU Zaria Teaching Hospital along the Shika road from the Samaru, when a car fully loaded with passengers summersaulted ‘just one’ (and the degree of that fatal accident was far less than this one), three people died instantly, a child inclusive and some were on the verge of death when we rushed them to the ABUTH. I had the video but I deleted it when my sister watched it and tears rolled down her eyes.


Seeing this incidence I believe that this is nothing but a miracle, because it seems to me that they still have either one or two purposes for all of them to be alive. But atheists will use logical to explain why they are alive (just like you did).

Ymodulus, first and foremost, it should be noted that belief in God’s existence is not illogical, as modern atheists would have mankind believe. The two ancient Greek philosophers (Plato and Aristotle) rationally drew a conclusion that there must be a God by deducing and arguing that from design there must be designer. For instance, you are in existence by virtue of your parents’ existence, so do I. Earth and other plannets cannot exist without a creator. Forget about the baseless theory of evolution of human beings that propounded.


Anthropologists and psychologists have long held that belief in God was by acquired by nurture. This was in response to Darwanian view, that considered human beings essentially animals, and thus the absence of religion among apes showed that it must be man-made.

Please Ymodulus, I no fit continue faa cause I hate long epistle especially when typing it on a phone.


Take good care of yourself, bro...........

Wow I can see you are intelligent. I naturally hate to argue with Christians or theist because the are insultive. But you talked with maturity. Now why don't we create a thread for this.


Title: Miracles , do they happen?

Jumia is OverHyped. Konga is the deal

benebaby77:
Ymodulus, what do you have to say about this? You had better change that your belief of atheism.

When I saw your mention, I was serving a ban by IshiLove, now am off the ban let me answer your question.

First sir this is no miracle, there is nothing of such. Looking at the accident above there are several things that should be looked into or comes to play when considering why the family never died. We consider:-

1. Position of the Container
2. Relative forces of the Container against motion and Air
3. We calculate the forward - backward reaction, noting that there must some resistance, and we need to seterming if that resistance is strong enough to reduce the rate at which the container hits the car. We put Newton Third Law of motion into practice here
4. We study the Little car that was hit, we have to study the material the metal was made of, the angle, distance, rate, velocity, of both objects at time of collision
5. We need to study the Relativity of the weight of the 5 family members using natural relativity.

Bro there are many, factors that we use to determine why the family came out without being dead.

There is an explanation to issues of this nature. There is nothing called Miracles.




"Miracles and prayer are proof not of God's existence but of gullibility and coincidence."


Any miracle must clearly be proved to transgress natural laws. But the only evidence available for any miracle is found in scripture or claims by believers; in other words it is hearsay and unreliable.
Evidence that a certain place existed or a certain calamity occurred shows no indication of any supernatural activity. And the fact that no miracles have been proved in modern life (despite the claims of the Catholic church, there is no proof that any saint has ever performed any miracle) suggests that older miracles are no more than myth. Belief in miracles is evidence of nothing more than gullibility.

booqee:
I agree. its definitely obinoscopy!

No one argues that. And ma'am I must salute your courage to talk to ishi.Love, I knew she has a history of banning members that tries to correct her. But you weren't scared

Dear Seun,


I am happy you created this thread. It goes to change that notion I always had, that you never like change or opinion from people or won't put them to use. While I patiently and meticulously read all post on this thread, I couldn't agree any further with the following


1. Tosyne2much's Review ( www.nairaland.com/2051235/home-page-updates-need-feedback/1#29002009 )

2. Ishi.Luv
While I have never had a problem with her or chat with her personally on any thread, Sir I have to say that I have noticed ishi.luv attitude of creating a similar topic somebody created hours ago, now she pushes here's to front page and either closes the first created post or nothing is done about it.
Sir this is not good, as it kills morale. Some people browse other site compile article or come up with write up only for a mod to not encourage such individual.


3. Quality Content:

Recently I saw interesting post in the Religious section that are front Page worthy, but they were not pushed to the front page. Rather some irrelevant post makes the front page. Too many irrelevant celebrity news.

Also sir I think you have neglected this two sections Business and Investment.

4. Frequency of Update / No of Post

The rate the topic are been updated are just too fast. Every 2 minutes you get the star on the nairaland home link. Ask your mod to give little interval.
Also control the no of posts.


Before I was against the high no of post on front page. But from my recent findings, I have noticed that at night from 7-10 your online members are higher than what it use to be with high number on front page. Recall that mist users / guest read only front page topic and go to sleep. I have gotten used to the big no of post update but please control the frequency. Let a topic mature a little. Before others are been posted.


#****#

Please control all those space bookers. I have to be honest with you with the high rate of front page topics. Some users just want to comment on the front page and they type rubbish. Now many of us love nairaland not because of the topic but because of the comments from users and since the high frequency of front page update, a thread barely exceeds 2 page. Now PAGE 0 is always filled up with useless comments by some group called the SPACE BOOKERS ASSOCIATION. Please control their comments.

Nice photo