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Hmmm

Elantracey:
simply tell her you got attracted to her profile on a guys phone and decided to add her if she asks who ignore her and ping her lera , two things are involved tho , either she blocks you or she doesn't.

Hmmmm

Now she has agreed to spend some money let me see WHR she will be splashing out all those N250K weekly.

Nairalanders going against seun should take note, Linda spending will seize henceforth. She can throw away cash like she use too.

There are thousands of Nigerians and co-Africans entering Italy and plenty more European countries without visas 24 hours of the day. Dokubo Asari's reason is arrant nonsense as it is very porous. And furthermore, the fact that he quickly ran to Saudi Arabia as a cover-up is a strong indication that he is one of the two people arrested. If they were common criminals, Jonathan's Nigeria could have paraded them. Since the incident was exposed, Jonathan's Nigeria has refused to name the two Oritsejafor accomplice arrested alongside an Israeli. This is double standard likewise putting justice upon its own head.

Thank you all.

Hmmmm. I will be back. Let me go eat something

With THE PRESIDENT, JONATHAN still dragging his feet after being presented their ticket on a platter means:
a) [size=17pt]Ota Gorilla(Obasanjo)[/size] is about to anoint Mark to replace Dumbo in case the Aborigine develops cold feet in light of the slew of negative reports and international investigations of him and his cronies currently going on…
b) A meeting of Baba’s “former boys” can only be convened to stifle Buhari’s ambitions given that Buhari once said all looters can leave the country or face firing squad if he were to become president of Nigeria…
c) Baba Ota is cooking another [size=18pt]cauldron of poison[/size] Nigerians must resist since nothing good comes out of a spiteful man…
What about APGA and LP? I guess those fringe parties have tacitly been absolved by the PDP otherwise, if Baba Ota wanted to carry everybody along he would have given token invitations to representatives of those parties. Sha, my gut feeling is they’ve realized that Dumbo will be a hard sell to Nigerians & international investors and are now plotting another sell-out deal given the presence of treacherous Bola Tinubu.

One thing is certain, if [size=18pt] Northerners and Easterners[/size] unite against any evil machinations of the Ota Gorilla and his “former boys”…there will be No Nigeria for anybody to lord over. For instance, a Tambuwal/Dr. NOI ticket would be impossible to defeat. Nigeria belongs to the youth, Baba Iyabo should concentrate on his PhD Thesis and leave politics for good… enough of this monkey business with failed fossils mapping the future for us. Nonsense!

Sad Truth.
Northerners and Easterners have always been enemy after the Civil war and can never unite. So i see this taking its way.

mayorall: Araba ni baba, eni aba laba ni baba

gbeni. gbeni gbeni.

I want to marry a lady with all these

MizMyColi: Ymodulus, I won't be commenting on this thread as regards why or not MBTI should be.
You're trying na make this whole thing look so complicated and I for one do not appreciate that.
I have been helped by these "so called" ridiculous tests and I've found that in Life, everyone is entitled to their own opinion on every issue.
Trying to debase Myer and briggs and carl jung's works won't change the fact that their "house wife" work, so to speak, has been of help to Millions on a path of self discovery.
This is not putting you down, but, I think you're stretching this bit too far.
My Dear, If you wanna continue, that's fine by me.
I just don't appreciate being dragged into all of this.
Thanks in anticipation of your understanding

Sorry so sorry.
No vess jor naa. I will give you 1 stout tomorrow am sorry nne biko o.

Old habits die hard

I will recho this


The Myers-Briggs "test" consists of the simple application of two principles known to magicians. It was shown in the 1950s that 12 statements supposedly describing a person's personality will be accepted by 85 to 90 pecent of people. If you offer someone an apparently "free choice" (such as a selection from a deck of 52 identical cards) and pretend to read his mind, the subject does not feel like he has been forced to choose what the magician wants. The Myers-Briggs forces choices and produces results that a person feels are descriptive of his personality. It is pseudoscience, and should be listed under "Snake oil and other scams" rather than any quasi-respectable label.

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Dean Burnett
Tuesday 19 March 2013 12.36 GMT

I was recently reviewing some psychological lectures for my real job. One of these was on personality tests. The speaker mentioned the Myers-Briggs test, explaining that, while well known (I personally know it from a Dilbert cartoon) the Myers-Briggs test isn't recognised as being scientifically valid so is largely ignored by the field of psychology. I tweeted this fact, thinking it would be of passing interest to a few people. I was unprepared for the intensity of the replies I got. I learned several things that day.

1. The Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) is used by countless organisations and industries, although one of the few areas that doesn't use it is psychology, which says a lot.

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2. Many people who have encountered the MBTI in the workplace really don't have a lot of positive things to say about it.

3. For some organisations, use of the MBTI seemingly crosses the line into full-blown ideology.

So how did something that apparently lacks scientific credibility become such a popular and accepted tool?

The MBTI was developed during World War 2 by Myers and Briggs (obviously), two housewives who developed a keen interest in the works of Carl Jung. They developed the MBTI based on Jung's theories, with the intention of producing a useful test that would allow women entering the workforce to be assigned jobs that would be best suited to their personalities.

This is already enough to make some people wary. Myers and Briggs weren't trained scientists, but you don't need to be scientifically qualified to make a very valid contribution to science. Look at Galaxy Zoo. Also, deriving all your information from a single source is always questionable in science, even if it weren't the work of Jung, whose theories were/are very influential and far reaching but largely scientifically untestable and subject to numerous criticisms. But the debate around the validity of Jung's theories certainly isn't something I could settle in a blogpost.

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The trouble is, the more you look into the specifics of the MBTI, the more questionable the way it's widespread use appears to be. There are numerous comprehensive critiques about it online, but the most obvious flaw is that the MBTI seems to rely exclusively on binary choices.

For example, in the category of extrovert v introvert, you're either one or the other; there is no middle ground. People don't work this way, no normal person is either 100% extrovert or 100% introvert, just as people's political views aren't purely "communist" or "fascist". Many who use the MBTI claim otherwise, despite the fact that Jung himself disagreed with this and statistical analysis reveals even data produced by the test shows a normal distribution rather than bimodal, refuting the either/or claims of the MBTI. But still this overly-simplified interpretation of human personality endures, even in the Guardian Science section!

Generally, although not completely unscientific, the MBTI gives a ridiculously limited and simplified view of human personality, which is a very complex and tricky concept to pin down and study. The scientific study of personality is indeed a valid discipline, and there are many personality tests that seemingly hold up to scientific scrutiny (thus far). It just appears that MBTI isn't one of them.

But so what? People often benefit from things with a limited scientific basis, for many reasons. Scientific validity is necessary if you're trying to diagnose a disorder of some sort, but in the everyday workplace for team building and the like? This is what MBTI is used for most, so why go on some major nerd-rant about how unscientific it is when it doesn't really matter?

Yes, the MBTI is harmless and potentially useful if you're aware of its limitations. That's the problem, though; the MBTI is predominately used in the workplace by HR departments, development/training teams and the like, who can often be clearly unaware of its limitations.

I've been fortunate enough in my career to never have been profiled by someone utilizing the MBTI, but many others haven't been so lucky.

(N.B. The following comments were among numerous emailed to me directly in response to a tweeted request. Commenters are anonymous as their livelihoods could be threatened if their identities were known).

As a member of the [Development] team I am expected to, at the very least, support the use of Myers Briggs. MBTI is the default training solution for any kind of team building event... People very often say something like "Erm, I think that I am not just a T or an F. Can I be somewhere in the middle?" And my colleagues will patiently explain that you must be one or the other. This is the most disputed aspect of the whole thing. And yet there we are explaining with complete authority that "No, you ARE either a thinker or a feeler." It is stupid. I wince when I see one of the members of my team trying to convince an employee (who I happen to know has a Psychology degree) that MBTI is infallible.

Several reports like this revealed just how deeply entrenched and rigid this faith in the MBTI really is. Training in the MBTI and its variations is typical for those in Human Resources etc. and can be quite expensive. The MBTI as an industry apparently makes $20 million a year. When you've spent so much time and money on learning something, of course you're going to have a faith in it, even to the point of cognitive dissonance.

This sort of thing has been going on for quite some time, as the next commenter reveals.

When I was back in school (25+ years ago) a lot of teachers gave the test at the beginning of the year… In one class I was asked to write about "what I learned about myself" by taking the test. I wrote a whole paper about how unscientific the test was and how I didn't learn anything. That teacher had me removed from her class within a week for unrelated trumped up reasons. It was like I was questioning her religion.

It's easy to assume that this unthinking faith in the MBTI is the preserve of businesses and companies, but it seems it's found in schools too. And I've been told about people enduring MBTI-based assessment with negative consequences in our beloved cash-stricken cuts-ravaged NHS. That's right; the health service seemingly spends a lot of money on training and assessment methods that aren't as supported by evidence as many would expect. Worrying.

The extent to which the MBTI is relied upon can reach quite farcical levels, as another commenter revealed.

I interviewed for a new job, and after the first interview stage, I received an email from my recruiter that the second stage interview wouldn't be an interview at all, but a set of tests, which would help the company to understand my mathematical and reasoning ability, my understanding of language, and my personality. That's right, just like something out of a teen magazine, my second interview would not involve me meeting the people I would work with, meeting again with management, or even a technical test, but instead, would be the grown-up, corporate world equivalent of a "Could You Date Justin Beiber" quiz!

Some employers trust the MBTI more than their own judgement? Even if potential employees were entirely passive and unfailingly honest, this would be unwise. I've even been told about companies that make a point of putting employee MBTI profiles on the doors to their offices, so people entering know how best to engage with them. Whether the employees had the results of their drugs tests tattooed on the back of their necks too wasn't mentioned, but wouldn't surprise me.

I obviously can't verify the above quotes, and I know anecdotal evidence should be taken lightly, but this is just a small selection of the responses I got from one casual query.

There are many possible reasons why the MBTI is so entrenched in workplaces and promoted so enthusiastically. There's the expense and training involved, mentioned above. It may be because everyone uses it, so people conclude it must be reliable, and thus its success becomes self perpetuating. Also, any personality type you get assigned is invariably positive. There is no combination of answers you could give on the MBTI which says 'you're an arsehole'.

I personally feel it's more to do with people's tendency to go for anything that offers an easy solution. People will always go for the new fad diet, the alternative remedy, the five dollar wrinkle trick that makes dermatologists hate you for some reason. For all that it may be well-intended, the MBTI offers a variation on that. People are very complex, variable and unpredictable. Many users of the MBTI believe that a straightforward test can simplify them to the point where they can be managed, controlled and utilised to make them as efficient and productive as possible. It's no wonder businesses are keen to embrace something like that; it would be the ideal tool if it were guaranteed to achieve this.

Evidence suggests it isn't though. People are far more sophisticated than any basic yes/no test could ever hope to encompass. Employers who assume otherwise in the face of all available evidence run the constant risk of alienating and infuriating those they intend to manage more effectively.

Dean Burnett's personality can be effectively assessed from his Twitter feed, @garwboy

[Spoiler warning; it's awful]

http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2013/mar/19/myers-briggs-test-unscientific

The MBTI was developed during World War 2 by Myers and Briggs (obviously), two housewives who developed a keen interest in the works of Carl Jung. They developed the MBTI based on Jung's theories, with the intention of producing a useful test that would allow women entering the workforce to be assigned jobs that would be best suited to their personalities.

This is already enough to make some people wary. Myers and Briggs weren't trained scientists, but you don't need to be scientifically qualified to make a very valid contribution to science. Look at Galaxy Zoo. Also, deriving all your information from a single source is always questionable in science, even if it weren't the work of Jung, whose theories were/are very influential and far reaching but largely scientifically untestable and subject to numerous criticisms. But the debate around the validity of Jung's theories certainly isn't something I could settle in a blogpost.

Now MizMyColi I will want you to read more on the Jung's theories and see why JUNG the swiss pharmacist and inventor should not be taken seriously. Beside read this culled from The guardian UK by a member of the MBTI BOARD.

Shakes head. A lot have happened.

Just saw my name mentioned. Now let me reply. to the post @ MizMyColi Hadizy wrote that not me. Let me give you my own personal view to this...


Personality test have series of errors and wrong assumptions, that even psychologist do no use them. (The vanguard UK is my proof).


MizMycoli, I see you belief so much on personality however why don't you let all your guard loose and decide to look into this well like a free thinker would.


Let's go there.

First it's good we have a view of history before we cone to present day. Let's take a deep down view of how the Personality test started. I will be looking at the MBTI as a case study here since its the most accepted

So how can we be rich sir??

Aida13: How I mean HOW can Tuface be compared to Asa? Smh like chalk and fine Swiss cheese (Asa being the cheese ). Anyway on topic, Imma need to go get this album! Loving the reviews. And because of the mad love/respect I have for Asa, I'll definitely buy d album to show my support and not just download it free off some mp3 site you know how it is lmao

If you go get it from Alaba market then its same as MP3 Site. Non Pirated Copy in the UK cost ABOUT 5K

JigsawKillah: Where can I download the album?

[size=20pt]
http://234music.com/albums/full-album-download-asa-bed-of-stone/[/size].

lottoe: Bros, leave the small boy alone, we arent here to argue who is good between Asa and 2face. Asa remains a living legend.

True

babeonline: I don't think Asa is from Warri. Probably Lagos or Ogun or something.

She is from Lagos.

My statement of WARRI wasn't literal. I was kind of figurative . I meant she talked like someone from that place

SeverusSnape: Bros, that's your personal opinion, but those who knows good music, knows asa is simply the BEST!

I knew you were my brother when i saw you.

SamSara01: How on earth can people say Asa is a better artist than 2face in Nigeria. Below are the few reasons why Asa can't stand 2face in Nigeria:
1: 2face has the greatest album yet in Nigeria (Grass to Grace)
2. 2face is the 1st hip hop artist to truly break out of Nigeria (where was Asa?)
3. Track to track, Asa can't even stand beside 2face as per hit tracks delivered. (you can make the comparison)
4: 2face is the most respected and loved artist among fans and colleagues in Nigeria today (you can do a survey)
5. 2face is undisputedly the most featured artist in Nigeria and in almost all cases in killed the tracks.
6. Asa's Asha album is her only true album they really won people over. Beautiful Imperfection wasn't really there(you can tell me 5 tracks off the album that makes sense.
All in all, these are the few points I could grasp with now and in as much as I love Asa and I believe she's next in line after 2face. I think it's very disrespectful to place Asa who has 1 and a half good album to 2face. Ask Asa herself, she'll tell you 2face is better

All your points are trash. You emphasize more on hits neglecting listeners appeal and acceptability in other countries / continent.


see CNN review of ASA

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/29/world/africa/av-africa-pop-stars/

pentagonal: as in I play asha at home, in the office and in the car and everywhere... can't wait to attend a live show.... Paris here I come anytime soon.

you need too!!

For me sentiments aside, i see ASA more of an international artist than 2face OR 2bABA. It takes MEN AND LADIES OF INTELLECT to listen to Ballad, Classical and Rock

DisGuy: ahhhhh sooo tempted, I'll feel guilty! I prefer buying decent music with my money and pirating all those noisy club bangers lol

I've ordered it, might just download it when i get home! cheers bro

ajebor i no blame inna