₦airaland Forum

Noneroone:
The Yoruba and Igbo are just as unrelated as with the Hausa. Remember the problem is not really the Hausa but the Fulani. The problem is not just Islam but political Islamic ideology being driven from the Fulani caliphate. The Fulani control the Hausas and Northerners with extreme Islam whose values is at variance with those of development. The Fulani aspirations of islamic conquest contradicts the development needs of the Hausas and aspirations of the other Nigerians.

You need to understand how religious hegemony works. You will always have willing tools who see being used as religious obligation. Therefore the Fulani controls the north and the country by extention and do everything they want, at the same time not officially held accountable for them. With this they can even sabotage and destroy the country when the interest of the people doesn't accord with their conquest agenda. This is the problem. Theoretically, if the north wants to end 70% of its problem, they need a revolution that will disband the caliphate, the emirate and Fulani Sunni extremism. Enthrone moderate Islam and Hausa traditional system.

Like I said if that is done you would see the Hausa is just as different as the Yoruba to an Igbo. The Hausa is also peaceful and doesn't kill, they love to learn, they love to see foreigners live and build their land. This was what Fulani took advantage of to conquer them and destroy their land. The Hausas can only fear the so called Igbo domination but they neither hate nor jealous the Igbo the way Yoruba's do.

Igbos envy no one but Yoruba's envy the Igbos. Envy is a dangerous thing and Yoruba's have it. a Yoruba may not have the liver to kill physically but can incite killings out of envy. They need Igbos in their land but still envy and hate them. This is a situation which defies logic. This is why Yoruba's are the only people that want the republic of southern Nigeria and not their own independent homeland. This is for those who dare to support separation as most of them prefer a united Nigeria no matter the odds.

Everyone knows Biafra is the political aspiration of Igbos. Nigeria is breaking into Three.

Big problems in Nigeria.

morpheus24:
Not the whole world, just developing countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, India and South Africa who are unfortunate to get the lower stock of Nigerians.

Developed countries no send us, in fact they don't have time for us at all. We are practically invisible because of their large economy and potentials to absorb immigrants.

But why can't Nigerian sit at Nigeria and stop bothering other countries.

morpheus24:
Illogical argument.

Premise 1. Nigerians are Killed in Nigeria.

Premise 2. Nigerians are Killed in South Africa

Conclusion; Because Nigerians are killed in Nigeria, therefore there is nothing wrong with them being killed in South Africa.


Please try again!

The fact of the matter is that what is happening in South Africa is just drop on the ocean compared to what is happening in Nigeria.

morpheus24:
Olodo. Tribalism means one thing, Xenophobia means another.

You cannot be Xenophobic to your fellow country man.

Olodo!

Lol, Xenophobia is better compared to Tribalism.

Nigerians will surprise you, they complain about one Nigerian killed in South Africa, while themselves at Nigeria they are killing each other like animals

Nigerians will surprise you, They always say South African are Xenophobia to other Africans from neighboring state while they are Xenophobia to their fellow Nigerians/ Tribes (Tribe killings).

zhike:
Nigerians will surprise you, They always say Nigeria is better than South Africa but all of them want to come to South Africa.

Nigerians will surprise you, They always say they are smart/ clever people but they are busy destroying their own country.

zhike:
Nigerians will surprise you, they complain about one Nigerian killed in South Africa, while themselves at Nigeria they are killing each other like animals.

Nigerians will surprise you, They always say Nigeria is better than South Africa but all of them want to come to South Africa.

Nigerians will surprise you, they complain about one Nigerian killed in South Africa, while themselves at Nigeria they are killing each other like animals.

MrBrownJay1:
If there was no foreigner filling these jobs in SA, the country would probably crumble....

Am sure you are joking with this comment.

Mrlazarus:
With all due respect,South African government is wicked,selfish and unreasonably stupid.
Where was this "relationship" with the Nigerian government when their lazy bush people were killing hardworking Nigerians in South Africa,destroying their businesses.
So now that they are about to get payed back in their own coin,they start singing on top of their voice.
And is it true that Nigerian government has assured them of their safety in Nigeria? I don't believe our government would be so clueless to sell us out like that.I can't even recall Nigerian government making an impressive move over the killings of Nigerians in South Africa.

NANS just overreact when was Nigerians killed in South Africa, As far as I know JMPD in Johannesburg is closing business that are selling counterfeit goods. People must get facts before they comment. As Nigerians if we want other countries to respect us, we must fix our country first. Nigerians must stop running to other countries. During the time of apartheid south African fought to fix their country.

If you burn South Africa companies in Nigeria, who will suffer?. Nigerians who are employed by this companies will be out of work and join massive Nigerians in poverty. Reality is in Nigeria we need international investments from South Africa. Professional Nigerians in South Africa are not experiencing Xenophobia, the Nigerians that are experiencing Xenophobia are those useless ones who are roaming around the street of big cities in SA selling drugs and etc.

XhosaNostra:
Whose fault you're 200M though? South Africans are sensible. We have one of the lowest birth rates on the continent & the world because it's simple, more people = more mouths to feed/requires more resources. The solution to your problems lies within your society.

Good Question

In South Africa and Nigeria there is different religions, why in Nigeria there is religions killing but in South Africa not?

MrBrownJay1:
Comparing 2 countries on such basis would have you fail in life, time and time again.

SA doesn't have oil, SA was run by white people enslaving blacks until the early 90s, south Africa is slightly bigger than Nigeria in size while having only 50M habitants, while Nigeria has 200M.

Now think about the above in bold for a minute, and if you still don't understand why the two are completely different country, then it's a shame.

China has more that 1.4 billion people but they are not killing each other like animals. Therefore why Nigerains are 200 million and are killing each other like animals?

foreigners attacked Police in Johannesburg:
https://citizen.co.za/news/south-africa/government/2163041/govt-condemns-mob-attack-on-police-in-joburg/

MrBrownJay1:
Irrelevant to the Pont at hand.... if that's the case then they should look down on ALL foreigners... white ones included.

The food I mean work, Africans comes to SA to look for work. whites are not here to look for work.

MrBrownJay1:
Of course the white create jobs because they own SA. thanks to apartheid they robbed the country blind for decades, appropriated all the major sources of income to themselves, and still own them till today.

As for thinking that SA is not xenophobic, look again what that South African above wrote about "black" foreigners.

This thing that SA economy is owned by the west is a wrong perception, the biggest employer in SA is govt, the biggest company is PIC owned by the state, the biggest SA companies most of the investors are black.

since 2008 less than 100 people are killed in Xenophobia attacks in South Africa, In Nigeria since 2008 more than million people were killed in internal wars. who is better between the 2 countries?

XhosaNostra:
Not true. Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Chinese etc have all had their own share, too. South Africans are NOT targeting foreigners more than they don't appreciate the criminal elements that some foreigners bring into the country. Surely you don't expect people to sit back & watch their country go to the dogs, especially because of outsiders. We don't operate that way. It may not be the right way to go about it, but majority of South Africans are patriotic.

good response

XhosaNostra:
I don't know about the two other countries you mentioned, but in the case of South Africa, Apartheid did a great job unifying people because we faced the same adversities. Over time, tribal differences became insignificant because we had a common enemy, so to speak.
However, certain ethnic groups do still feel they're "better than", but it's not an issue big enough to cause any tension. We usually just have a laugh about it because at the end of the day, really, nobody is perfect.

It starts with each one of you, individually.

Great response, Just laugh about tribal issues but not fight.

MrBrownJay1:
FIXED

lol, include Asians also. Just imaging if you have food that can feed only your family and then other people comes and eat those food. what will you do?

MrBrownJay1:
Each countries have their own wars... expecting different countries to all to have the same wars and problems makes.no damn sense.

Furthermore, Europeans don't spit their venoms at other white Immigrants...they do so at blacks and arabs majorly...while SA Xenophobia is directed for the most part at AFRICANS.

I understand your concern, point of correction South Africans are not Xenophobic only to Africans but also to Asians. whites people in South Africa are not looking for employment, they create employment that is why they are not fighting them.

Naijafull19:
OK....you made a point, but

1.Botswana and Namibia have very small populations spread out over a large portion of land...and have at least one dominant tribe

2.Even then, Namibia and South Africa have had tribal issues...eg Namibia 's Ovamboland has at one time fought for 'autonomy'.

3.South Africa...there is tribal tension. Infact, it very nearly deraliled the transisiton from Arphateid to multiparty democracy (Zulus vs other tribes) and was even slyly played up by the White arphateid government (Bantustan policies).

4.Anyway, Namibia and SA blacks had a common enemy....the white man. Fighting a common enemy tends to breed some form of unity. (If Nigeria's populaiton was one-quarter white, there won't be tribal tension as we know it....we would be focused on the whites. Especially if they were running the government)

Good response. I agree in South AFrica just after first election Zulus wanted to fight other tribes but Nelson Mandela calmed it down by appointing Mangusuthu Buthelezi to his cabinet.

Naijafull19:
I think he means INDIGENOUS inter-tribal crisis, not Xenophobia...which is in a class of its own...and is essentially 'Immigrants go home' kind of fighting.(similar to anti-immigrant violence one sees even in Europe or America on occasion)

Thanks for the good response.

MrBrownJay1:
ARRANT NONSENSE

In SA there is XENOPHOBIC war... which in my opinion is just the same rubbish!

Let me teach you. in Zenophobia South Africas are not fighting against each other, they are fighting against foreigners.

Why in Nigeria there is tribal,cultural and religious war and in South Africa there is no war.

Nigerian are killing each other like animals for useless reasons.

More than 60 mourners leaving a funeral in north-east Nigeria have been killed by the militant group Boko Haram, according to Nigerian officials and other sources in the area.

Ten years after the group’s founder, Mohammed Yusuf, was murdered in police custody after a crackdown on his followers, Boko Haram’s factions are continuing to wage a bloody insurgency against the Nigerian security forces and civilians, defying government attempts to destroy the group.

In the latest attack, a number of men were walking back to their village after the funeral prayers for a relative when armed men turned up on motorcycles and opened fire, said the head of the Borno Hunters Association, Bunu Bukar. The village is to the north of Maiduguri, Borno’s state capital, in the area of Nganzai.

Check our counter parts countries like South Africa, Botswana and Namibia, there is no tribal, cultural and religious war.

be4dem:
Half time draw

All defenders of Bafana are playing for one team "Bidvest Wits", and it is very difficult to score against Wits.

Bafana Bafana to win 2 - zero like the time they were qualifying for afcon.

Nigeria must be aware of this boys:

IronGalaxy:
that's rich. Coming from people killing their own for human parts for money rituals. What can be more barbaric, uncivilised and inhuman. You have no business acting righteous towards a South African, your mentality is trapped in archaic and uncivilised beliefs. Why is the whole continent Nigerophobic? Either you answer me or pi.ss off

I like what you just said.
people always accuse South Africa of Xenophobia but they are busy killing each other like animals.

holllandis:
Go siddon xenophobic non entity

This is the only match I will watch without fear of heart attack

I think we must just be clear with xenophobia.

I think South Africans qualify to be xenophobia because they have what it takes.

Why Nigerians can not be xenophobia, simply because they don't have what qualifies them to undermine other people.

As Julius Malema said, undermining is not based with how you look, but is based with how wealth you are.