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Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 10:55am On Oct 24, 2014 |
Bidam: I don't remember arguing that you cannot give by faith. i just don't see the link between what you are giving by faith and Malachi 3, or pastor's command to tithe. That's all. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 10:35am On Oct 24, 2014 |
Zikkyy: Image123: Zikkyy: Image123: Let me repeat..we are not discussing the number of times tithe was mentioned in the bible, so i don't see the relevance of Abrahams tithe here. When God gave the command to tithe, did he mention Abraham's type of tithe? The answer is No! Nobody is saying Abraham's tithe is not biblical, but when it comes to determining what, how and where tithe was to be offered by the people of Israel Abraham's type of tithe cannot be considered. Abraham gave a tithe of war boo.ty, but the Israelite were not required to tithe war boo.ty... Numbers 31:25-30 (NIV) 25 The Lord said to Moses, 26 “You and Eleazar the priest and the family heads of the community are to count all the people and animals that were captured. 27 Divide the spoils equally between the soldiers who took part in the battle and the rest of the community. 28 From the soldiers who fought in the battle, set apart as tribute for the Lord one out of every five hundred, whether people, cattle, donkeys or sheep. 29 Take this tribute from their half share and give it to Eleazar the priest as the Lord’s part. 30 From the Israelites’ half, select one out of every fifty, whether people, cattle, donkeys, sheep or other animals. Give them to the Levites, who are responsible for the care of the Lord’s tabernacle.” 1 Like |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 10:02am On Oct 24, 2014 |
Image123: trustman was right. Now that you are unable to face reality and have decided to use the emergency exit, all you do now is stand outside and throw stones at the people inside the building. If you really interested in knowing what happened, i will advise that you take some time to read the post from trustman (re-posted below)...... trustman: 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 9:54am On Oct 24, 2014 |
Image123: Zikkyy: Image123: Zikkyy: Zikkyy: Image123: Zikkyy: Image123: Hmmmn....It was you image123 that said.."a tenth is a tithe, offered or not"... now i provided examples of 'tenths' i just need you to confirm if these tenths are tithes. A simple Yes or No will do na. All am reading from you now is words like "ridiculous" or "foolish". why you dey fear na? Maybe some tenths are not tithe after all. Now you see your definition of tithe is not from God. 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 9:29am On Oct 24, 2014 |
Image123: Zikkyy: Image123: Basic maths? you rely on basic maths for ya tithing practice? So it is basic maths that says tithe is 10% of a whole? You can keep ya definition of tithe, we will go with the bible's definition. If you ever bothered to read the bible you will see that God's tithe ranges from 0 to 10%. Let me help you.... Leviticus 27:32 (NIV) 32 Every tithe of the herd and flock—every tenth animal that passes under the shepherd’s rod—will be holy to the Lord. God said every 'tenth animal' that passes under the shepherd's rod belong to him. if there are only 9 animal, there is no tithe (0%), and if you have 19 animals only one gets to pass under the shepherd's rod resulting in a tithe of 5.2%. It obvious that God was not considering percentages when he was defining his tithe. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 8:14pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Image123: MarkMiwerds: The comment by Image is used by pastors to justify the collection of tithe of blood money, armed robbery proceeds, tithe from prostitution e.t.c 4 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 7:56pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Image123: What has Abrahams tithe gat to do with Leviticus 27 where God defined his tithe? Are you trying to extend God's definition of tithe? 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 7:37pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Image123: Says who? ya pastor? Image123: ..and a whole what? a whole human being? unless you provide a proper definition of tithe, there is no way ya definition will make sense. you are yet to tell us if the tenth car waiting to be served at a petrol station should be offered as tithe to the Lord, or if the tenth person waiting to pay for purchases at a check out counter should be offered as tithe to the Lord. Image123: ..and you forget that 10% of a whole may not be another whole. What is 10% of a whole egg? another whole egg? 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 7:31pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Image123: trustman was right afterall, this is you using the emergency exit. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 6:35pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Bidam: you no get faith be that 1 Like |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 6:30pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Bidam: The answer to this ya question will require you to drop '10%' first 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 6:24pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Bidam: I dey kampe. even if bible talk something like that, you no interpret am very well. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 6:13pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Image123: ...and the Lord did not request for a tithe of the 'many things that belong to him'. His command was clear enough, he requested for a tithe of farm produce. Image123: This is not about the many things that belong to the Lord; it is about the 'tithe' that belong to the Lord. Yes, the earth is the Lord's but he did not command that a tithe of the 'earth' be given to Him. Instead he requested for a tithe of Farm produce. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 6:00pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Image123: Its not me 'carving ma opinions', it's the message you are sending. You told us 'a tenth is a tithe offered or not'. meaning all tenths are tithes. Image123: The cars at the petrol station owned by more than one person. If we go by ya definition that a tenth is a tithe, it therefore mean that the tenth car on the queue is a tithe, abi? Remember that ya definition did not say that all items must belong to one person. We can also say that the 'tenth' person (in a queue) waiting to pay for purchases at a check out counter is a tithe. So you understand why ya definition of tithe cannot be coming from God. Image123: 10% of 13 children will require taking a whole and maybe an arm or leg from another child. Your tithing practice is definitely Babylonian. Can you imagine image123 tithing children, and in bits for that matter 4 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 3:47pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
MarkMiwerds: @image, i want to believe you are reading 5 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 3:42pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Image123: I will mind ma business if you stop making ya business ma business. As long as you or ya pastor continue to teach or refer to the pastoral tithe as God's tithe, i will continue to make ya business ma business 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 3:35pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Image123: See the bit in blue font colour... Leviticus 27:30-32 (NIV) 30 “‘A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord. 31 Whoever would redeem any of their tithe must add a fifth of the value to it. 32 Every tithe of the herd and flock—every tenth animal that passes under the shepherd’s rod—will be holy to the Lord. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 3:26pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Image123: I don't know what you talking about. Image123: @bolded, you are saying...in a queue of vehicles waiting to purchase petrol at a station, the 'tenth' car is a tithe? or in a family of 13, the 'tenth' child is a tithe, abi? You see ya self Are you sure you are not practicing babylonian version of tithe? 4 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 12:18pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Bidam: Na wa oh! so levites and descendants of Abraham tithed while in the loins of Abraham. I guess it's okay for me to say Bidam worshipped and offered sacrifices to Sango/other African gods while in the loins of his great.....grandfather. 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 12:11pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
MarkMiwerds: I want to believe image123 pays the 'pastoral tithe' 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 12:08pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Image123: if you dey vex, you vex for ya self. its not ma business. Image123: @bolded, what if the tenth is not offered/paid as tithe? Image123: You know i don't have issues with ya definition of tithe (as long as you don't call it God's tithe ). You can define tithe anyhow you want. We know tithing was not restricted to God's people, the Egyptians, Babylonians e.t.c practiced tithing as well. the question you should be asking ya self is whose tithe are you paying? 3 Likes |
Religion / Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 6:40pm On Oct 22, 2014 |
Image123: Are you referring to God's tithe or pastoral tithe? God's tithe is strictly for the Jews. Pastoral tithe (instituted by pastors!) can be paid anywhere as long as there is a pastor to collect. after all it's their money God's tithe: Leviticus 27:30-33 (NIV) 30 “‘A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord. 31 Whoever would redeem any of their tithe must add a fifth of the value to it. 32 Every tithe of the herd and flock—every tenth animal that passes under the shepherd’s rod—will be holy to the Lord. 33 No one may pick out the good from the bad or make any substitution. If anyone does make a substitution, both the animal and its substitute become holy and cannot be redeemed.’” Pastoral tithe (as defined by image 123): Image123: Image123: 3 Likes |
Car Talk / Re: Nigeria Begins Implementation Of 35% Levy On Imported New Vehicles by Zikkyy(m): 11:37am On Sep 18, 2014 |
femmy2010: True talk. We lose more foreign exchange to petroleum importation. local refining will create more jobs and encourage development of other industries like chemicals, plastic e.t.c |
Car Talk / Re: Nigeria Begins Implementation Of 35% Levy On Imported New Vehicles by Zikkyy(m): 11:29am On Sep 18, 2014 |
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Car Talk / Re: Nigeria Begins Implementation Of 35% Levy On Imported New Vehicles by Zikkyy(m): 11:28am On Sep 18, 2014 |
Nosyke: The government should start from here; encouraging local production of toothpick. No need to import CKD (raw materials), we have the wood. Nigeria is not ready for auto manufacturing. The auto policy was designed to bring joy to Stallion group and pain to Nigerians. |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 4:01pm On Aug 06, 2014 |
Image123: I have two concerns here... 1. Have gone through the definitions you provided and am not able to find one that supports your comment above. Maybe you can help isolate the definition of income that support the above. 2. i don't see anything in your post that defines farm produce or Abrahams war boot.y as income. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 3:34pm On Aug 06, 2014 |
Image123: image123 don't take ya frustrations out on me, biko. Image123: exactly! the reason i provided my source so readers can do further reading. If you were expecting me to scan the internet and post all available definition of income, am sorry i don't have the time for that. You asked for a definition of income and i gave you some. even concluded by saying "you can add ya own". indication that there's much more. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 2:59pm On Aug 06, 2014 |
Image123: Honestly image123, i don't expect Jesus to collect tithe (physically or otherwise)! If you say Jesus must collect tithe, you have to explain how you arrived at such conclusion. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 2:51pm On Aug 06, 2014 |
Image123: You will then have to explain the posts below.... Image123: Image123: 1 Like |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 2:40pm On Aug 06, 2014 |
Image123: The Leviticus command was directed at people whose source of livelihood goes beyond farming and cattle rearing to include fishing, hunting, wage earning (for the poor), selling e.t.c and God did not request for tithe of these other source of livelihood. The command was clear enough. People looking to see if the word "only" was included in the command are people like your brother in Luke 18, (behaviour expected of a pharisee). We have a term for such behaviour, its called "over-sabi" a.k.a."ITK". 4 Likes |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 2:19pm On Aug 06, 2014 |
Image123: We know the bible did not say that a tithe of war boot.y belong to the Lord. Image123: Maybe i don't. clarify please. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 9:35pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
Image123: Investopedia: Money that an individual or business receives in exchange for providing a good or service or through investing capital. Free dictionary: The amount of money or its equivalent received during a period of time in exchange for labor or services, from the sale of goods or property, or as profit from financial investments. Merriam webster: a gain or recurrent benefit usually measured in money that derives from capital or labor Oxford dictionaries: Money received, especially on a regular basis, for work or through investments You can add ya own 2 Likes |
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