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Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 9:27pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
Image123: If this is what you believe, no wahala. Image123: simple. You said Jesus is under the Melchizedek type priesthood, so therefore he must collect tithe because priests under this type of priesthood collects tithe. abi no be so you talk? and we know priests under this type of priesthood don't use intermediary to collect tithe. If you don't know, melchizedek left his temple/palace to meet Abraham at the valley of shaveh to collect his tithe, he did not send anybody. This is how priest under this priesthood collects their tithe. So Jesus cannot use intermediary to collect his tithe o! If you say an intermediary can collect tithe on behalf of Christ (a deviation from the standard under melchizedek type priesthood), your assertion that Jesus must collect tithe (because Melchi collected tithe) cannot be correct. 4 Likes |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 9:09pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
Image123: You mean carpenters never tithed carpentry income. If a carpenter tithe his farm produce, he will tithing as a farmer not as carpenter. Image123: Do you have evidence? Image123: Read the reference below one more time. Do you see a command to tithe cash? Leviticus 27:30-33 (NIV) 30 “‘A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord. 31 Whoever would redeem any of their tithe must add a fifth of the value to it. 32 Every tithe of the herd and flock—every tenth animal that passes under the shepherd’s rod—will be holy to the Lord. 33 No one may pick out the good from the bad or make any substitution. If anyone does make a substitution, both the animal and its substitute become holy and cannot be redeemed.’” 5 Likes |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 9:00pm On Aug 05, 2014 |
Image123: Really? can you explain the bit in blue color... Leviticus 27:30-33 (NIV) 30 “‘A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord. 31 Whoever would redeem any of their tithe must add a fifth of the value to it. 32 Every tithe of the herd and flock—every tenth animal that passes under the shepherd’s rod—will be holy to the Lord. 33 No one may pick out the good from the bad or make any substitution. If anyone does make a substitution, both the animal and its substitute become holy and cannot be redeemed.’” Image123: Oga, all tenths cannot be tithe na! the above cannot be correct. Tithe in the bible is always a tenth part of something or the tenth item. For Abraham it was war boot.y, for the Israelite it was farm produce. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 9:44am On Aug 05, 2014 |
^^ No wahala. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 11:43pm On Aug 04, 2014 |
Image123: Tithe was never income, it was agric produce. and Abraham was not in the business of 'reaping' spoils of war. It was possible for the farmers to sell part of their produce for the purpose of purchasing other necessities, the sales proceed was never tithed. 5 Likes |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 11:33pm On Aug 04, 2014 |
Image123: Image123, you are relying on one of Jesus tales by moonlight to prove that tithe was more than just agric produce Na wa for you You see an instance of a jew giving more than just agric produce and it becomes your justification for asking for tithe of raw cash. BTW did God command that Jews fast twice a week? the answer is NO!, did God command that Jews tithe everything they own? the answer is NO! this was a clear case of 'over-sabi' or ITK and Jesus was not impressed (and i don't see any reason why i should be impressed). to think you rely on this tale to justify ya tithe of raw cash. image123 you no dey try at all 7 Likes |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 11:16pm On Aug 04, 2014 |
Image123: No wahala. also note that under Melchisedek type priethood, the highpriest is physically present to receive the tithe. i.e. no intermediary so if you must give tithe to Jesus because 'Melchisedek received tithes', you will have to borrow ya pastor's private jet to deliver the tithe to Jesus (that's assuming you are not a pastor ) Image123: So you even know the purpose of the tithe There is nothing wrong with the 'church' agreeing to a donation amounting to 10% their income as contribution to funding the church project(s). But it should not be referred to as God's tithe. 7 Likes |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 10:59pm On Aug 04, 2014 |
Image123: Atleast you agree that itis possible for soldiers, lawyers e.t.c to have field for part-time farming. If soldiers tithed, be sure it was farm produce and nothing more. That was the command; farm produce only. God specified the type of sea food that was edible, he specified the types of wild animals & birds that edible. What we did not read him say was that fisher men should tithe their fish; we don't read him saying hunters should tithe their bushmeat, yet Israelite made gains from fishing and hunting. So its not just about vegetables and animals, it was about farm produce. 6 Likes |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 10:27pm On Aug 04, 2014 |
Image123: You can say tithe is '1/10 of anything or something'. what you don't know is that most 1/10th do not qualify as God's tithe (and acceptable to him). We are interested in God's tithe not that of man. You can keep your definition of tithe, we'll go with God's definition..... Leviticus 27:30-33 (NIV) 30 “‘A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord. 31 Whoever would redeem any of their tithe must add a fifth of the value to it. 32 Every tithe of the herd and flock—every tenth animal that passes under the shepherd’s rod—will be holy to the Lord. 33 No one may pick out the good from the bad or make any substitution. If anyone does make a substitution, both the animal and its substitute become holy and cannot be redeemed.’” 7 Likes |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 10:14pm On Aug 04, 2014 |
Image123: Key word here highlighted blue 1 Like |
Religion / Re: 14 Lies About Tithes That You Should Know About. by Zikkyy(m): 10:07pm On Aug 04, 2014 |
Image123: interesting, image123 want us to submit ourselves to pastor's tithe ordinance image123 must be a pastor protecting his chop-chop. 7 Likes |
Car Talk / Re: Toyota, Kia Okay Nigeria’s Assembly Plants by Zikkyy(m): 5:47pm On Jul 21, 2014 |
JaaizTech: They lost market share. Their major customer (government) migrated to japanese brands. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Tithes And Offerings by Zikkyy(m): 5:35pm On Jul 21, 2014 |
Bidam: .....with pastor as intermediary |
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by Zikkyy(m): 5:25pm On Jul 21, 2014 |
Gombs: Are you saying joagbaje's church converted 40 million muslims to christ embassy? what exactly is the nature of this 'impact'? wasting peeps tithe in sudan abi? una know how to lie sha. |
Car Talk / Re: Toyota, Kia Okay Nigeria’s Assembly Plants by Zikkyy(m): 11:15am On Jul 21, 2014 |
anonimi: Government policies should favor consumers, not kill them. i think the government should consider other consumer friendly incentive schemes for investors. 1 Like |
Car Talk / Re: Toyota, Kia Okay Nigeria’s Assembly Plants by Zikkyy(m): 11:11am On Jul 21, 2014 |
anonimi: Do you know of any other infrastructural problem? i know it can't be bad road, communications is easier now compared to 90's. it's not raw material and plant/equipment maintenance (these are forex/xchange rate dependent). True they generated power for so many decades, but remember it was president Yar'adua that approved the complete deregulation of diesel (fuel for powering generators). am sure you know the implication. 1 Like |
Car Talk / Re: Toyota, Kia Okay Nigeria’s Assembly Plants by Zikkyy(m): 10:15am On Jul 21, 2014 |
anonimi: The word highlighted red is what am talking about. |
Car Talk / Re: Toyota, Kia Okay Nigeria’s Assembly Plants by Zikkyy(m): 9:51am On Jul 21, 2014 |
anonimi: because cost of sourcing the amount of water required is insignificant. |
Car Talk / Re: Toyota, Kia Okay Nigeria’s Assembly Plants by Zikkyy(m): 9:38am On Jul 21, 2014 |
anonimi: Am sorry but water cannot be the reason for closing shop. |
Car Talk / Re: Toyota, Kia Okay Nigeria’s Assembly Plants by Zikkyy(m): 9:36am On Jul 21, 2014 |
anonimi: true power issue date back decades, but like you said the coming of tokunbo tires exposed the fact that it cost more to produce locally. anonimi: This was one of the major problem facing local manufacturers. Power outage at any stage of the production process will result in huge losses. Michelin did not rely on PHCN instead they invested heavily in power plants. The plants comes on in January and goes off in December. |
Car Talk / Re: Toyota, Kia Okay Nigeria’s Assembly Plants by Zikkyy(m): 9:20am On Jul 21, 2014 |
ocman: The truth is that the field is very small for now (i.e. cannot accommodate large number of players). Toyota coming to Nigeria is bad news for other manufacturers including Nissan and Peugeot. |
Car Talk / Re: Toyota, Kia Okay Nigeria’s Assembly Plants by Zikkyy(m): 9:13am On Jul 21, 2014 |
anonimi: I think you guys are saying the same thing. Local tires were priced higher than imported tires dues mainly to huge power cost. |
Politics / Re: Reject Jonathan's $1b Loan Femi Falana Tells National Assembly by Zikkyy(m): 12:26am On Jul 19, 2014 |
eejo: falana lacks information do you know how much it cost to buy a military hardware ,.... Since you are better informed, maybe you can list the military hardware purchased in the last four months valued at about N970billion. 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: Reject Jonathan's $1b Loan Femi Falana Tells National Assembly by Zikkyy(m): 11:10pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
jking001: Its not bout the size of the budget, Nigerians want to be sure the money went to defence. that's all. 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: Reject Jonathan's $1b Loan Femi Falana Tells National Assembly by Zikkyy(m): 11:02pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
EasternLeopard: See the bit highlighted in red below.... AdelokikiMr: 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Reject Jonathan's $1b Loan Femi Falana Tells National Assembly by Zikkyy(m): 10:10pm On Jul 18, 2014 |
luvinhubby: Not last year, the budget was approved less than two months ago. How do you spend N970billion in less than four months? 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: Vote Of No Confidence In President Jonathan's Reckless by Zikkyy(m): 10:57pm On Jul 16, 2014 |
mencade5: yes jonathan has failed because buhari and his men have vowed to make his government ungovernable. its not the fault of buhari. If Jonathan has failed, its due to his incompetence. |
Politics / Re: Is Goodluck Jonathan The Problem Of Nigeria? by Zikkyy(m): 11:09am On Jul 11, 2014 |
Bokoharam: Ngasky: Best answer. |
Politics / Re: Jonathan's incredible acheivements - Cramjones by Zikkyy(m): 12:20pm On Jul 07, 2014 |
motif8: The fact that he did not start corruption does not mean he should make it worse. motif8: Whta exactly is the president doing to strengthen our judicial system? motif8: The situation we are in today is not due to absence of law. also note that the law on its own is useless if not put to use. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: Without The Law There's No Foundation Of Rightness Or Wrong by Zikkyy(m): 6:19pm On Jan 07, 2014 |
Gombs: James 4:11-12 ESV Why are you asking me to explain? |
Religion / Re: Without The Law There's No Foundation Of Rightness Or Wrong by Zikkyy(m): 5:57pm On Jan 07, 2014 |
Bidam: i need to get one thing clear here; are you saying the whole of bible is the foundation of rightness or wrong? because that's not what joagbaje is saying. Bidam: The Op has made it clear from the beginning.that we get principles from the OT. Let me quote him again since you have a blind and contentious spirit. Mr. Bidam, you cannot be shifting the goal post. we are no longer discussing the OP, we are discussing your comment that "The Holy Spirit does not contradict. What He said in the Old is still relevant in the New" Besides we can no longer be discussing the OP if you rely on the bible (from genesis to revelation) for foundational knowledge. Joagbaje says we rely on the law for foundational knowledge. and by law, he was not referring to the bible. we can read this from the OP.....He stated that he was "amazed at the extreme we go in the condemnation of The law" and added this....."The only issue with the law now is that a man cannot recieve justification by the law". nobody condemn scriptures, so joagbaje must have been referring to specific text in the OT. probably the 10 commandments. Bidam: Since your stupidity is glaring for all to see i will let this pass. You can thank me later. Okay. |
Religion / Re: Without The Law There's No Foundation Of Rightness Or Wrong by Zikkyy(m): 5:15pm On Jan 07, 2014 |
Bidam: How did you know Paul's statement was taken from Gen 3:16 account? when Paul stated something different in 1 Timothy 2..... 1 Timothy 2:12-14 (NIV) 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. |
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