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smithsydny:
Must u insult?

Does altar call means they preach salvation? What I know altar to be is you come out pastor pray and you say I have given my life to Christ and they ask for your number and so on...

During service hours.. During sermon..

So u think its just ordinary for someone to stand up without shame and indicate he wants to give his life in d midst of friends and d rest? Let dem continue preaching watever they preach dat can make people take dat bold shameless step.
. U mr critic, AkA pharisee brand, how many people have u preached salvation to? Or is finding faults in church all u know how to do

psp2pc:
I should remain in a church when their doctrine isn't in line with what I perceive is right?
and let me tell you the winning of thousands of soul is just a numerical gimmick , how many of the soul won continues in the way of the lord.
during this mega services when they make altar calls, I see thousands rushing out but at the end of the day, how many really sincerely gives their life to christ?
that's aside when was the last time u won a soul for Christ?

Even if its only one dat is retained out of d thousands THERE IS STILL JOYOUS CELEBRATION IN HEAVEN. Jesus didn't say there will only be celebration wen d won soul is retained, He made it clear d celebration begins immediately u win d soul.
Tnx for asking me how many souls i have won, its a healthy competition. But i wont say. Life is personal, soul winning is important, whether i win a soul or not is not ur business. Go and win urs

Akiintom:
What exactly did God do for you?



Do you have to result to gutter vomit?

So u can come and start blabbing how i cud have done it without God. Sorry to disappoint u
I have no business telling u.
U can believe wat u want to believe.
But somewhere in ur heart u have dat hole dat nothing will fill up. Dat empty part is for God and no matter how u try to believe a lie, d hole will still be there.

80% of all churches make altar calls every sunday and sinners come home. Now turn ur blind questions to How many churches dont preach salvation?

Akiintom:
*you just confirmed my assertions.

*are there not "sinners", who confessed nothing, but became successful? I guess tompolo confessed in the name of egbesu, to become billionaire via militancy.

*did all the folks that you claimed got testimonies, via their connection with your building, received money/job/house etc in the fashion that you contributed for your pastor/building ?

I repeat i dnt care how others got theirs. I am only concerned with how God did it for me and people like me.
Go to d building i talked about u will bow ur head in shame how it took undergraduates who were pursued from gathering in classes 3yrs to raise d mansion. I dnt care who d money went to but it fulfilled d purpose for which i gave it. D same with most others who did.
I repeat i dnt care how worldly make their money, so d comparison is irrelevant

psp2pc:
most churches preach about giving than salvation. altar call isn't same thing as preaching of salvation. I have been to over 3 different Pentecostal churches and I know what am talking about. in the past it wasn't like this. I am not talking about churches that are just springing up, I am talking about mega churches with HQ and branches worldwide. even @ their HQ, they preach mostly on giving to God all the time. even though they speak about salvation they still somehow twist the word to point that you still have to give to God even after been saved to be blessed.
am I lying?

Why dont u stick to one and know wat the church is all about. NO church preached giving more dan my church BLW but wen it comes to salvation they win thousands of soul just in one meeting. U don't just go to a church one or twice and conlude.
Deeperlife dnt center on giving so u can join dem. Its still d same body of Christ. No excuses

U called Christ embassy. Yes am a testimony of that keep saying it principle. Wen i was a teenage who hit d street as early as 3am just to find money, passing through d dangers of d nigh, i kept saying am a success
Wen my teacher adviced me not to bother going to school because of no money i kept saying am a success
Wen it looks like things were opposite of wat i was saying, i kept saying am a success.
In University days in d midst of impending Es i kept saying am a success and i graduated as one of d best.

Go to blw uniport where a building worth 250million naira was raised by students of uniport. During the building period, students bought cars for themselves and bcame a lot richer even though they were constantly giving. I gave one of d most precious of belonging of mine and my brother got a job without application in d biggest oil company in nigeria. Parents do come to d church to testify how dat building project changed their family because of d participation of their children.
Where i am today was because i kept saying d same thing.

I dnt care wat u want to believe but next time do a detailed research before u utter Rubbish

because praying in tongues is not meant to be interpreted except when used for prophecy. Its wrong prophesy in tongues without interpretation but wen u pray to God in tongues its a communication of ur spirit which d Holy spirit has taken charge of with God.
So its a God to God communication and u have no business interpreting it.
So even d greatest prophet cannot interpret my tongues wen i pray (not prophesy) because no one is authorized to understand my personal communication with God

God stands by his rules and principles.
In that era his principle was that children would also bear d punishment of their parents even up to d 10th generations. Only if u know how wicked and adulterous d world was den because d goverment of d day belonged to d devil. So God used those punishments to checkmate his chosen people. People through whom he will bring decorum like we have today to d world

OP u re a very bigggggg liar. No church and i repeat no church ever preaches giving more dan thrice a month. If u want to backslide just know dat its a decision from ur flesh powered by d devil coming after u. because d day d devil separates u from d body of Christ dat is d day u bcome powerless to him. A broom will convey dat lesson better

Stinson007:
why do you xtians think every other religion is just wrong but Jesus welcomed the people called sinners in the bible

Who is talking about not welcoming and having a good relationship with people of other religion?
For u to be called a Christian, u must believe dat every other religion is wrong

Origin:
The difference is Muslims do not insult theirs or others religious belief . They would rather discuss with you with proof.

There are two things:
1. The way God has asked to be worshipped, His approvals, His disapprovals.
2. What humans actually do in respect of 1.


Muslims take 1 seriously and know in their heart that no matter where they are at 2 their aim is still to achieve 1.

Now Christians take 1 as open to numerous interpretations and belief that 2 is actually more important than 1. And that no matter what happens in 2, God would have to accept it.


E.g on matters of religion:
I am God . One. Without Partner.

Muslims: Yes Sir.
Christian: Yes but where will we now put Jesus and holy Ghost. It's the three of them that will be One god. All this people tried for us . We will join them together and they will be three in One.

Mr man its good u guys learn how to stick ur nose where it belongs. Wat u wrote there is an insult to Christianity and yet u claim u and ur terrorist brothers dnt insult other religions.
Anyway have u had ur camel urine diet today?

There is no single similarity between God and d devil.
So dat question is out of place.
No similarity at all. Its only a baby Christian dat would start comparing Christianity with islam just like its only a dummy dat would compare God with d devil

OtemAtum:
Those five people I mentioned above was as long as twenty years, but when they got to forty-five to fifty years of age, they began to realise that they had diabetes. Two have died of it after having their legs severed from their bodies, one is completely paralysed while two are managing with strokes. Do medical check-up. It is very useful.

And u said those five never took drugs for twenty years? Or did u mean they never went for medical check up for those years?
U and i know dat there is a 95% probability dat they consume a lot of alcohol.
Anyway am not a novice to medical field, and i still stand by my word No drugs!!!
One of those am referring to would soon clock 60

OtemAtum:
Going to the hospital or using medical checkups isn't a bad thing to be forbidden. It's necessary to do medical check up if you have the means. Have you checked your blood sugar level? It's very important, as many christians have become diabetic and hypertensive at their youthful and adult ages and even got strokes and sudden death, all because they felt that Yahweh was doing something to their health while they were still much younger. I know of more than five cases in one church which diabetes turned their lives to something else. Oga abeg, encourage people, if not yourself, to know their blood sugar level before it is too late.

Thank u for d advice. But i still repeat i dnt do drugs or check ups not because it is wrong (i do advice people to ensure that their medical check ups are up to date) but because i use that same word of God u guys despise to cleanse my body. Its not a matter of how many yrs, its been very very long and i even know of someone whose own is longer dan mine.

Wole wole brodas think they get mouth.
Apapa wole wole coconut bus stop professionals.
Ewedu and locust beans masters
People with map of oduduwa journey from heaven to earth designed on their faces which make dem look like oduduwa species of cats.
Anyway let me stop here.

OtemAtum:
The problem Yahweh has is that he was too loud-mouthed. He promised heaven on earth to his worshippers and he even swore by it. There were instances that he even ask his worshippers to bring money and sacrifices to the storehouse and prove him whether it those bribes if he wouldn't open the windows of heaven and pour them out blessings, bla, bla, bla. Yahweh's noisy promises are just too many to his followers. But he can't fulfill any of those things.

God Almighty, the highest consciousness who created Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Mazda, Moloch and all the other gods did not make any promise to human beings. Solutions to all problems are with we the human beings ourselves, because God lives within us. But when we don't know the right place to go to solve a particular problem, then we end up living in delusion.

Hospital is the best place for the sick for now. Stay there if you are sick until you get cured. That is the best place human being have made for the matter of cure for now, not a religious house.
You want to travel abroad, using aeroplane to do it is the real option for now, not disappearing and reappearing there.
You want to go through the waters, ship, canoes and boats are the right thing human beings have made for it. But some people are thinking of walking on water and they die of it.
You want to make an amputee walk again? Church is the wrong place for that. Prosthetics legs are the right choice for that and you can acquire them from human beings, not from any religious gods.

As long as human beings neglect the right solutions for the wrong ones, they would continue to deny themselves of the benefits of the UNIVERSE embedded in human beings.

I dnt care wat u want to believe. But I DONT GO TO HOSPITALS. it didnt take me a day to get to dat level so point of correction.
Believe watever u want to believe.

I have an advice for people like u.
Always plan ur one or two months ahead of u.
Before my final year i did labor work on construction sites and den i was very skinny just to make sure i had money. I wrote projects for people. I wrote assignments just to come up with cash and it did not stop me from being among d best in d dept.

If u re real den go out and find something to do. Den make up ur mind never to depend on anybody's mercy or pity

terrezo2002:
Now the just shall live by faith. If any man draws back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him Hebrews 10:38
Job in the bible suffered for so long. He lost everything except his life. Prayed to God, but no answer. In all this time, he didn't become an atheist.
But these days, you see little problems turning people into atheists. Faithless generation

Dnt mind d OP
If i open my mouth and share my own story wit him he will know dat his own is just a kid's play.
Many people think Christianity is just father give me dis and whoops u get if and if eventually dnt get it den there is no God. They always try to put God to test on his own existence with things like "if u re God do this"
I am glad i realized early enof dat trust in God is all i need.

adepeter26:
Lol, so spirituality pass spirituality....
Jesus power pass Jesus power.

Buhahahahahah.... Case closed

Lol
Its not everyday u come across die hard Christians like me. No Christian who has reached d level of relationship i have with my God would ever go bak.
Christianity is about loving God no matter d situation and not about miracles. If OP could loose his faith due to dis tribulation then had never read d part of the bible dat says "count it all joy when u go through trials and tribulation"
How can u know if someone truly loves u wen u just do everything d person wants without putting him to test

adepeter26:
You that know, biko tell us....

The scam in prayers and miracles must be exposed. Abi you dae vex say dem don reveal little of your CHURCH secrets

He didn't mention my church. because he will the biggest liar to tell me dat he went into our healing school and came out without being healed.
Moreover am not a Christian because of d miracles God can do. Even if there were no miracles i will still be a Christian

As a proud biafran i ve got nothing to say.
Let him who keep pouring ewedu in a soured soup called One nigeria first enjoy d foul taste of d soup

because ur mother almost went mad u now know d mechanism and secret behind prayers and miracles bla bla bla.
You know nothing

Rubbishh.
Wen they should be holding their governor responsible for d development of their state. They think they will drink d oil after they made their land uncondusive for investments. Bunch of lazy hopeless youths.
Give us biafra but make sure these lazy asses dont join us.

Chrismario:
U missed it again.
Did i say everyday sex?
Common,,,, even married couple don't do that, you just being funny.

And yes,,, if i do get a daughter and she wish to have sex having attained the age of reasoning, Whats wrong with that??

And that question?
I cant help since you turned blind of what i stated earlier.

Continue playing saints, I av seen millions like that who mkes noise but sleeps around and many who rubs their own privates with vaseline and soap, makes noise at every sound of sex b4 marriage

Hope if condom malfunction occurs she is also free to abort d baby, afterall there shud be nothing wrong wit dat too.
And stop exaggerating u will never get to see up to 5 persons in d act of masturbation all ur life.

Chrismario:
Av stated it earlier

So hope u wud also want ur daughter to have protected sex everyday while unmarried?
No sex is a perfectly protected Sex. If u have sex with a woman wit and d condom dissappoints u (which is common), hope u will enjoy d rest of ur life?
Not all Christians pay tithe
Going to Church is not a benchmark for being a Christian.
So will u also count attending seminars as slavery? Or suffering? because many christians get career changing ideas from d Church too (i know of some people who did)
So answer my question wat does atheists enjoy dat Christians dont

Chrismario:
My question goes thus;

Happy sunday y'all

Ever wondered if this paradise real?
What if at last, there isn't anything close to heaven afterlife, having abstained yourself from enjoying some certain things.

How 'll you feel?


Then you replied :-


zionmade:

Lets disect d enjoyment u re talking of
1. Drinking and getting drunk.
2. Sleeping around with anything walking on skirt
3. Freestyle in lying
4. Stealing wenever u have d opportunity
5 Cheating on ur wife
6. Partying and Clubbing away ur life
7. Smoking unrelently
8. Retaliation for every wrong done to u
9. Saying anything u wish at anytime and anywhere
10. Feel free to add urs.
Assuming no heaven or hell lets disect d consequences of d listed enjoyments.
1. Driving while drunk could get u killed, D nearest gutter might be ur next destination, u will look stuupidd to responsible men who wouldn't want to have anything with a drunkard, u will be killing ur health.
2. Free HIV, from staph, free ghonorhea, free death.
ETC
So hell doesn't have to exist for u to be scared of d consequences of ur reckless life.

Moreover a true Christian would never follow Jesus just because of heaven and hell. Wen u truly love God, u will enjoy every bit of ur relationship wit him.

And also :

Yeah. And d thing is dat i dnt even see any enjoyment in wat people call enjoyment. Going to club wen i shud be sleeping or mapping out my next move, getting drunk and disgracing myself, smoking and ending up mad or wit cancer, sleeping around and contacting all sorts of sickness, Cheating and ending up wit a broken home.
Wat exactly do sinners or atheists enjoy? Pls an atheist shud come and help me out.
HungerBAD CatfishBilly hopefulLandlord pls someone shud help out


Seems you really missed my point, there re other thing to enjoy
and not just fornication

Am only interested in d last sentence name them

kevoh:
Fair enough but I still don't see how this is related to your generalising in your previous posts that atheists commit all the 10 things you mentioned. Not doing any of those things are not virtues specific to the people who fall in your definition of Christians and should not be seen as if only they alone can abstain. There are deists, Buddhist monks, atheists, muslims,pagans etc who have these same virtues, nothing special about the Christian.


I don't remember coming across such, what I remember is you calling out the Nairaland atheist like hopefullandlord and co to come and defend exactly what sinners and atheists enjoy in those 9 or 10 vices you listed. And I think I gave a clear cut out response.

Now read Op's questions again.
I asked in totality wat does atheists enjoy dat we dont. I didn't relate d question to those things i mentioned. I related it to d op's question

kevoh:
I don't even do any of the things you mentioned yet I'm atheist. There's​ no doctrine or laid down rules of social way of life an atheist must follow, it's just simply disbelief by an individual in the existence of any god till empirical proof arrives shikena. If an atheist messes up that is of his decision and should bear the consequences and not because he lacks belief.

Most of those things you listed can be done by anybody, nairaland frontpage is even filled daily with various crimes ranging from rape, fraud to embezzlement perpetrated mostly by your Christian leaders. The Muslim are not left out either. If I catch you with enough proof in some fraud be you atheist, muslim or Christian I'll report your a**. I can't​ say much for you guys though as I've seen Christian's vehemently defend fraudsters even right here in religion section just because the accused is a Christian.


This is a condescending question! Humans enjoy what humans enjoy ! Atheists are humans same way Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists are all humans.

Anybody who doesnt live d life of Christ IS NOT A CHRISTIAN. I dnt care wat name he bears.
U didnt answer my question, d OP said we as Christians miss enjoyments and i asked WAT ARE THOSE THINGS WE DONT ENJOY AS CHRISTIANS?

Chrismario:
Im very happy u said it yourself

WE ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM SINNERS

So stop sounding as if you re JESUS hmself, acknowledge that you have done something wrong in your life therefore a sinner,,,, stop behaving like a Pharisee who sees only non belivers and atheists as sinners

Have a nice day!

Bro u can call urself a sinner. I am not. Dat is ur business. A debtor whose debts have been cleared is not a debtor. I thought u were bringing cut and join scriptures or are u tired. Mr sinner I am not a sinner. Live with dat

Chrismario:
I should be the one doubting you.
I understand you but saying you are not sinner is just DUMB

(Romans 3:9-10)"What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin; as it is written, "There is none righteous, not even one."

Bro is dat how u read ur own bible? Paul is on a narrative mood here. He is narrating d fact dat we are not different from sinners by our works but BY Grace
Why dont u read down to Rom 3:22-25
Na wa ooo. U call urself a Christian Under sin? Tufiakwa.
I am d righteousness of God, a son of God, A joint heir with Christ. Not by my works which are filthy rags before God, but by d works of Christ.
I am a joint heir with Christ Holy and sanctified by Grace. I am born of an INCORRUPTIBLE SEED.
Now go and develop stop being a babe in Christ

Chrismario:
Im so disappointed in,on and at few thing you typed up there honestly.

Matthew 5:22
He who calls someone fool dangers hell fire

English dictionary defines sin as "a person who has sinned"
You are indeed not far from a Pharisees in the bible who boasts of his imaginary righteousness

I expected you to acknowledge that you are a sinner that you are, because we all " had sinned and fall short his glory" Romans 3:23
TProverb 28:13 says "He who conceals his sin does not prosper .......

See dis one
Mtt 5:22 why dnt u see d place he was referring to a brother. And brotherhood refers to d body of Christ. An atheist is no brother of mine in dat sense d bible talks about.
D rom 3:23 why not read down to d end.
I doubt ur Christianity if u call urself a sinner after everything Christ did on d cross.
God says I am RIGHTEOUS not by my deeds but by d reason of d sacrifice. I dnt care wat ur religious mind tells u I AM RIGHTEOUS period.
A Christian is not someone who doesnt sin, but someone whose sin have been taken care of. How can someone accuse a true Christian of being a sinner wen God's word says our sin were laid on Jesus.
Grow up its been long Christians reasoned as primitive as u reason