₦airaland Forum

ezechinwa2:
Because they are role models to their followers and Nigeria or better still Africa has been messed up by their doctoring on getting money or using money to buy salvation..

If 10% of Nigerians can help d poor d way those pastors do, poverty will leave dis country. Watch emmanuel Tv and see how TB gives food and scholarships to d poor, watch Loveworld and see how destitutes are picked from streets and given d best of education. Do u know how much my church spends every September to pay fees? Watch apostle Suleiman how he helps d broken people, go and find out how scholarships bishop Oyedepo gives out yearly.
D thief omokri dat is inspiring u now wat good has he done in dis country

achieverme:
Pele, pastor worshipper. How much raw cash did Jesus have to his name when he was on earth?

When Jesus fed the 5k, do you think only 5k peeps were hungry in that city then? It isn't about feeding every hungry person; it is about feeding as many as you can

Yes i worship my pastor if dat pains u.
U sound like judas"sell d oil and help d poor" imagine a thief who u shud be querying for how he spent d money he was supposed to use for projects telling u dat pastors shud be d ones doing d job.
Sorry for ur life, if u want remain poor dnt go and make money and find whom to help, keep waiting for pastors as if they will answer for ur head on judgment day. Judas Iscariot sell d oil crew

Amberon:
Do you know what lust is? Jesus christ said looking at a woman lustfully is adultery already. Can you masturbate without lusting?

Wat of looking at ur wife while masturbating?
Wat of looking at the nyash of a woman because d stain on her skirt caught ur attention?

Abdulazeez007:
but the poors are being extorted to purchase it!

Go and read wat is extortion in ur dictionary.
It is rather d govt dat extorts d poor through taxes and VAT to pay exorbitant salaries to d senate members. So wen u talk about extortion hold d govt. And by d way how many poor men can raise 3billion naira for a jet? Do d maths and den refuse poverty

ahaika23:
I read through and didn't find where the office of the pastors was insulted. Haven said that, junia has been uncontradictory so far and I thank God for the wisdom given to him.
You can't claim to be under grace and be keeping some old testament commandment of God while despising some others probably because they don't favor you. God is just.

How many times can u walk up to ur father and question him dat way?
For ur info ananias and peter incident is in new testament
And moreover i serve d God of d old testament though am not under d old testament law. God never changes, he is still d same God dat said "i killeth and i maketh alive" i guess knowing dat aspect of God should give u some sense of fear not to open ur mouth and say anything u want about an office he constituted

tizzle:
Pastors are supposed to be CHRISTLIKE... politicians (legislator, governors, presidents) are like the Pharisees, Caesars... what would Jesus do? He said greater things shall you do... he fed 5000... let dem men of God feed more than 5000

So u want pastors to start publicizing the good things they do so dat haters like u will start shouting left hand right hand bla bla bla.
If u were given d life of one of those pastors u will never want to live it. A life where u have money but u hardly go 2 days without fasting and praying for d poor, needy, oppressed, peace, ur members etc.
Maybe u shud tell me how Jesus asked mary to sell dat costly oil and give to d poor

Junia:
Im a giver and i am proud about it.
After taking my salary this month what i have given is even far more than what i have spent. Its my nature bro. I dont need to be told to do so or be given a promise of blessings before doing it.

100's of Israelites who were swallowed by the earth.
You must note two things.
1. God gave them a law to abide by it.
Abiding by it brings blessings
Failure to abide by it brings suffering

2. God was showing them His wrath in those days.

Now we are in a period of grace. Because of what Jesus has done, God is loving everyone unconditional whether we sin or not.

And dat grace can give u d audacity to insult d office of a pastor?
If only God can open d eyes of people to know d cause of all they are going through , most people will find out dat their tongues destroyed their lives
Yes grace abounds but ananias died on d spot wen he lied to peter.
For ur giving God will bless u but be careful to criticize anybody occupying and office mandated by God. It may lead u to blaspheme against d Holy spirit and u know God's grace doesn't cover dat

sonsomegrigbo:
You Omokri!
lalasticlala abeg everybody must hear this
BTW. First FTC since signed up to NL

Dont go and make money and help d poor keep waiting for pastors

Why pastors,?
Why not legislators cutting their salaries etc. Why not governors and presidents.
Even if pastors sell all they have we will still have poor people everywhere because poverty is not d lack of money but a mentality.
Reno sounds exactly like judas"sell d costly oil and help d poor

Long awaited development. Thumbs up to mr president
Buhari will go down one of d greatest presidents if only he can eliminate religious and ethnic bigotry.

Junia:
Deut. Lev and numbers contain the laws governing Israel. They don't govern Christians.
We are under open heavens bro. Let no one deceive you that its the tithe that will open the heavens for you. No

Saying those who dont tithe dont sow in the kingdom is a lie.
There are people who sow better than you yet they dont tithe to the church.

Dont say what you cant prove

Blessings.

Now look at ur personal giving life and be truthful to urself and ur God. Are u a giver?
Read dat my post comment again we work under different commandment but d same God who let d earth open up and swallow hundreds of israelites

Junia:
There is blessings in giving.
Try and meet a chronic giver and he will tell you what free will giving has done for him

Most chronic tithers are chronic givers too. Anybody dat can give 10% of his income must have an open heart to give both to d poor and for d work of d gospel

akeensbussy:
And your pastor is a spiritual Levites?

Am a spiritual Levites (1 pet 2:9) not all Levites were priests so my pastor is my spiritual priests while Jesus is d high priest

annunaki2:
I know several chronic tithers living in poverty, I even know some who died in penury so don't deceive yourself that there is any special blessing attached to tithing. List the top 1,000 richest men in the world today, I can assure you there is no tither amongst them.

I know dat wen it comes to money people try to show all their sensible wisdom just to ensure they dnt give.
Anyway i want to end dis argument wit dis I tithe and i see d results on my finances, open doors and financial miracles. So i will continue tithing till i die, if anyone who tithe doesn't experience blessings d person can stop.

ElsonMorali:
Your pastor is a fraud. QED.

Ok mr honesty.
If a fraud can change my life d way he did den i will whole heartedly choose to follow a fraudster QED.

Junia:
Christians are already under open heavens.
Jesus became poor so that we will be rich.
And also, the blessings of Abraham is ours.

Note this: The whole book of Malachi was directed to the israelites for their disobedience. They were to obey the law before they would be blessed. And if they fail to obey it too, they would be cursed.

Tithe is not bad. But it is not compulsory neither will anyone be cursed for not tithing. In the grace period, thete is nothing like curse. Blessings only, and these blessings come to us only because of what Christ has done. That is why even unbelievers prosper.

I didnt say tithing was compulsory i only challenged ur claim dat mal 3 was not referring to christians.
Tithe is not a pre requisite for God's blessing or curse or to make heaven. But try and meet a chronic tither he will tell u wat tithing has done to his life

If u re a Christian, u are towing a dangerous path wit dat question because u dare not have to question God's actions and choices though its not dat i believe those stories.
But if u are a big bang product no reply for u because its a waste of time, it will only take one day, one event, one place and u will realize dat its an insult to reject d one who created u

Yes God will hand over ur mission to another person but will never get fed up with u.

Another Rubbish from a senseless prostitute.
How on earth will apostle knowing fully well dat d whole world is beaming d searchlight on him threaten to kill d mother of d accuser.
I only feel Sorry for Christians who believe and propagate these allegations.

annunaki2:
Both the ffirst and second sentence is not applicable to me, millions of believers and unbelievers all over the world are experiencing open heavens without tithing. Whilst I also know millions of faithful tithers who live in penury.

If u re not a Christian i hav no business arguing tithe wit u ok? I only reply christians on d issue of tithe. I dnt have any business explaining to a big bang product why i tithe

annunaki2:
There is a term for the statements you made here, it's called scriptural manipulation. There is not a single example of anybody tithing from income in the bible despite the fact that money was already widely in use then and people earned income. Stop twisting the word of God to justify greed in the church.

Lol that means there was no offering from income too right? because offering was meant to be animals and proceeds from harvest too. Hope am right

annunaki2:
Even israelite Jews don't tithe today, the tithe law has been done away with and it was never applicable to Christians in the first instance.

Hahaha I have no relationship with wat a jew of today practices.
Mal 3 says"bring ur tithes and offerings to my store house. And prove me if i wont open d windows of heaven and pour u out a blessing ""
If u do away wit the first sentence also be ready to do away with d second sentence. Or can u specifically point to d new testament where d second sentence can come to pasz without d first sentence

annunaki2:
There is absolutely nothing called monthly tithe or tithe based on income in the bible, I put it to you that you are being very economical with the truth.

Lol bro d bible never uses monthly but uses d word harvest. Now harvest is a period u reap wat u sow. U can compare dat with salary for salary earners, so i used monthly in relation to wat is obtained today
I want to know wat exactly i said dat is economical with d truth

ElsonMorali:
i guess calling those who disagree with you names is what the Bible teaches you. Fake Christian, attending a fake church.

What about obeying the injunctions of Christ, "Love your enemies, pray for them that persecute you..."

your pastor sure loves to lock his enemies behind bars.

I hardly use metaphor i use simile most Times, know d difference between poverty mentality and u are poor.
My pastor is second most criticized pastor in nigeria after proph TB Joshua but he doesn't care, he only tells us dat those opinions doesn't matter and can never stop him

But wen ur pastor quotes any other part of d old testament u shout Amen abi.
No single instruction was given to christians in d old testament so u can as well stop opening d old testament since u dnt know dat u re spiritually an israelite

pressplay411:
It comes back to context. As a husband/wife masturbating to his/her married partner, it shouldn't be a sin. But any other way, it would be regarded a biblical sin.

Dats exactly my point. Masturbation on its own is not a sin? Wat u think of or see while masturbating is wat can make it a sin or not.
So d sinful nature of Masturbation is conditional

NoWorries7:
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Matthew:5:28

Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
1 Corinthians:6:13

Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
1 Corinthians:6:15

Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
1 Corinthians:6:18

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy spirit which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1 Corinthians:6:19

For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
1 Corinthians:6:20

Hope these help...

Wat of if u masturbate thinking about sex with ur wife?
Wat of if u masturbate without thinking about any woman or sex
Ur body is d temple of God yes, but does masturbation on its own destroy d body? No. It even makes d body healthier.

Can u fornicate without an opposite sex? No
How do u glorify God in ur body? By using dat body for d work of Christ

pressplay411:
Matt 5.28
Lustful thinking.

But the bible is full of contradiction.
Read further here.

http://www.jasonstaples.com/bible/most-misinterpreted-bible-passages-1-matthew-527-28/

Wat is lust?
Wen u masturbate looking at ur wife's pics maybe because she is pregnant or far away is it a sin?
Masturbation on its own is not a sin. D sin there comes in wen u masturbate lusting after someone who is not ur wife?
If u can also masturbate without thinking about sex with someone or a naked lady it is not still a sin though dat one is almost impossible

ElsonMorali:
oga, what is wardrope?

Everybody makes grand claims here. Lol.

Yeah, I'm Buhari's son, i'll entertain you if you come over to the presidential villa tonight.

Oh, wait... I'm lying right? Well, so are you. I'll bet you are a broke ass Nigga.

Nothing wrong with that though...just keep working hard and stop dashing your pastor your meagre allowance. Invest. Or open your own church. Lol

U can keep ur advice for urself cos people like me dnt need it.
I have been giving for a very long time and i will keep giving and giving and giving. So take ur advice to a poverty-minded sophomore like urself.

Seun's religious bigotry is somehow too much. There should be religious equality on d religion forums. I dnt know why he thinks its only Muslims dat hates insult on their religion, or is it because we are not as violent as Muslims wen our religion is insulted or abused

ahaika23:
Leviticus 27:30-33New International Version (NIV)

30 “‘A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord. 31 Whoever would redeem any of their tithe must add a fifth of the value to it. 32 Every tithe of the herd and flock—every tenth animal that passes under the shepherd’s rod—will be holy to the Lord. 33 No one may pick out the good from the bad or make any substitution. If anyone does make a substitution, both the animal and its substitute become holy and cannot be redeemed.’”




So how can you satisfactorily explain these passages and those of Deuteronomy?

There are daily offerings, monthly offerings, biannual offerings and yearly offerings. D one i stated is a monthly tithe d one u stated is a yearly or biannually tithe. They are not related. because even before u select d tithe u were referring to, u must have removed the tithe referred to in lev 27

ElsonMorali:
so lemme get dis straight. You are giving to your pastor so that God can double or tripple it in return?

Sounds like MMM to me.

Since you've been giving your pastor, how much have you made? Why are you still going about with one pair of trouser?

I give to God and of course God said d offering i give to him is meant for d use of d priest. He didn't tell me to investigate wat d priest uses it for. He also promises me prosperity wen i obey him by giving. So I give to God and he prospers me!!
One trouser? Hahahaha u can have a million trousers and still not have d type of joy i have but by d way bro, i can change d wardrope of ur entire lineagr in one week