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Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by tintingz(m): 7:03pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
abouzaid: @tintingz, ur d one that posted that mary died a virgin, i only pointed it out. This clearly shows that u don't even read ur own posts. Also u posted that the culture then in that region was against such an early marriage,yet ur trying to argue the opposite. Dude stop copying and posting thrash here. Almost all your posts are against u. Attacking israeli kings is meaningless too. Face the topics. And pls stop using insultive words against ppl. Is that what ur religion teacher u?hahahahahahahaha from where did I myself post "Mary died a virgin?" The catholic believe Mary died a virgin I myself didnt post that |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by Nobody: 7:06pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
Jews fhhucking 3 year olds Arabs fhhucking 6 year olds... And you wonder why the MiddleEast is all screwed up These Barbaric Religions. These Satanic Theocracies look at TinTin compiling post like some savage who drinks blood and urinates on children all day I can imagine his thick dirty arabized beard scratching against the keyboard as he types Filled with all sorts of little girl vajinal secretions. How many 3 and 6 year olds have you been allowed to fornicate with due to your corrupt laws that dehumanize women and Savage Beastly Religion? |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by abouzaid: 7:06pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
@val_dee, his own post said that the prevailing age then was 12-13yrs In the middle east which is way higher than 9yr that aisha was when she was penetrated. The guy don't even read his own posts. Most ppl start primary school between 6-7yrs. So if aisha was alive today she will be a nursery 3 or primary 1 pupil when she was married and primary 2 or 3 pupil when she was enjoyed by muhammed. The op article even said that she took her dolls with her when she was taken to his house in order to play with it when the prophet was not handling her. Clearly this also shows that the said age is true. Besides this is not an argument, it generally accepted by islamic scholars worldwide. Look at the north where so many girls are suffering from a medical condition caused by early pregnancy. As tintingz posted himself, muhammed action was what caused this cultural norm for muslims worldwide till today. |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by tintingz(m): 7:06pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
~Royal~:abeg mr monkey royal show me where I said that... |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by Nobody: 7:09pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
tintingz: HELLO MR...CAN SHOW ME IN THE BIBLE RIGHT FROM ABRAHAM WHO MARRIED HAGAR A VERY YOUNG GIRL TO ABRAHAMS AGE WHERE JEHOVA...MOSES...DAVID...SOLOMON...JESUS WHO HIS MOTHER WAS VERY LITTLE MARRIED TO OLD JOSEPH IMPREGNATED BY JEHOVA...WHERE THEY PROHIBS EARLY MARRIAGE IN BIBLE INCLUDING TEN COMMANDMENT BY JEHOVA INDICATING NO EARLY MARRIAGE...JUST SHOW ME OR YOU ARE GOING AGAINST THE CULTURE OF EARLY PEOPLE IN THE BIBLE When will you start defending your prophet and this despicable act? I don't even believe in the bible so quoting it.means nothing to me. I want to understand the justification for a 52 year old man marrying a 9 year old girl? What a shame. Heobviously falled in His calling . |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by abouzaid: 7:13pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
@tintingz, ur post that said mary was married at an early age as quoted by an apocrysha book also said the same apocrypha book said she died a virgin. It even said that jesus called her my ever virgin mother when joseph died. Pls read ur own posts and stop posting nonsense here. |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by tintingz(m): 8:08pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
abouzaid: @tintingz, ur post that said mary was married at an early age as quoted by an apocrysha book also said the same apocrypha book said she died a virgin. It even said that jesus called her my ever virgin mother when joseph died. Pls read ur own posts and stop posting nonsense here.can you show me where it says Mary died a virgin? supported by Quran("it only says Allah purify her made thee pure among all women creation" but didnt state she died a virgin) and muslims but just some catholic books held by some muslims...infact I will quote from the bible that Jesus had brothers and sisters Matthew 13:55-56 New International Version (NIV) 55 “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? 56 Aren’t all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?” Read before commenting |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by truthislight: 8:12pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
Sweetnecta: ^^^ I dont know what you are on. did you not notice from her post that she was quoting you saying that you can have sex with a three year old child? Lol. This is insane. |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by truthislight: 8:24pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
E_monkey: no wander your name is monkey. Stop Monkeying Around here pls. |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by Saintparis1: 9:28pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
Did he sleep with a 9yr old or not? |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by Nobody: 10:25pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
truthislight: Saint paris: Did he sleep with a 9yr old or not?I like how your pathetic anti Islam topics didn't go anywhere at all. |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by abouzaid: 10:34pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
the most decisive argument against the claim that Joseph was a craddle-robber is the fact that the same non-canonical writings which are used to gather information on Joseph and Mary's age, also confirm Mary's status as "ever virgin" (in The History of Joseph the Carpenter, Jesus says on Joseph's death "my mother, virgin undefiled" . tintingz you wrote that, honestly your posts re totally confused and self contradictory, i think your intentionally wearing us down with abra ca da bra talk so i wont reply you again |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by abouzaid: 10:51pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
[b] Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Is...perversion.htm PedophiliaLet me begin with a quote from a fatwa by the late and unlamented Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran. "A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as pre-intimacy, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister." You need not fear that your Muslim male baby-sitter will rape your 7-year-old daughter. If he is a good Muslim he will only sodomize her. If he does force his penis into her tiny vagina he is obligated to pay for any surgical repairs that may be required. If those repairs are deemed insufficient you may work out a financial settlement to compensate you for his trivial infraction. No big deal. Muslim boys will be Muslim boys. And, after all, she is only a girl. Other forms of sexual abuse inflicted on children by Muslim male family members include handling of genitals, coercing a child to handle the abuser's genitals, masturbation with the child as either participant or observer, MouthAction, anal or vaginal penetration by penis, finger or any other object. Another technique used by Muslim men is called "thighing". The child's legs are pressed together and the abuser inserts his penis between the thighs of the little boy or girl. As this was how Mohammed had sex with his wife, Aisha, from the time she was six years old the practice, of course, was approved of by Ayatollah Khomeini who in his Little Green Book asserted “It is not illegal for an adult male to 'thigh' or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.” Yes, indeed, you can be a good Muslim while copulating with the thighs of an infant. An Arab woman vigorously denounces this vile practice in the following video clip from Bahrain TV. Her denunciation of the "thighing" of infants and young girls comes towards the end of the interview. This practice flourishes in Muslim countries where women are ruthlessly oppressed and normal sexual development systematically suppressed. That would include the Arab world, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan. Deny men wholesome and natural sexual outlets and they will find unwholesome and unnatural alternatives. The Grand Ayatollah's full ruling on marriage can be found here. The institution of "temporary marriage" appears to be designed to facilitate prostitution. A USA Today article tells the story. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112411 the article have links to all the quoted reports [/b] |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by Nobody: 11:17pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
abouzaid: davidicke, lol. The same crazy davidicke that thinks there are reptilian transformers living among us is the person you quote. Anyway as for the other parts of your post, I don't see how they remove from the credibility of Islam. The man that said those sick things about thighing is neither the Qur'an nor Hadith that Muslims follow so his useless fatwa has no bearing in Islam. (It's at times like this that am glad LagosShia is not on an anti Islam thread) |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by Sweetnecta: 11:42pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
@Val dee: by val_dee: 7:09pmwhats despicable about a marriage that no one used it to accuse him? or you think the people of old times dont have morality and you are a good measure of morality? a man who married older woman, twice married while he was a 25 year old virgin in over 1400 years ago is better than a 40 year old virgin of today. even a 50 year old virgin of today does not have his morality. Are you a virgin, man and how old are you in today's nigeria? I am certain that you are no virgin and if you are not married before se.x what moral compass are you using to talk here? The quality of minimum age of marriage is puberty. Aisha [ra] reached it and she was like the daughter of donald trump of new york city of today. she did not married because of poverty and she was not abuse and she did not complained of being not treated like a wife. so what right do you have in talking, again? I want to understand the justification for a 52 year old man marrying a 9 year old girl? What a shame Heobviously falled in His calling .today muslims under Muhammad [sa] close to 25% of world population. Is that a failure after close to 610 since christianity has been on earth? more than 2000 years the jew claims that his religion has been on earth, forgetting that Adam was a muslim. How did Muhammad [sa] failed when Islam is the fasted growing religion in USA? In the world, too. what justification do you have against a legal relation of marriage between 2 noble people, where no one in their time used the relationship as a reason to reject Muhammad [sa]? 52 is a young age in so many parts of the world. I know that you see 52 as over the hills. people are living into 120 and beyond so 52 is nothing. So if 9 year old pigmies had married an 8 year old where life expectancy is like 24, what will you say? are you now saying 52 years old man in a society where life expectancy was 30 and where people got married young, should not live out his life? Muhammad [sa] was our example of how to marry: older, divorced, widowed, younger, age group, only wife, co-wife/wives are all permissible. Incidentally, to support my statement of him being our best example, when revelation was completed, God took is soul not long after. What moral compass are you using, mr. nigeria where because of lack of men and lack of serious moral footing, prostitution abounds, homosexuality is now a thing people can be proud of. In my youth people run out town when they are pregnant without being married first. @abouzaid: by abouzaid: 7:13pmleave the marriage of Mary to old man joseph aside because we dont believe it. We believe with you that Mary God pregnant. So lets look at how old Mary was and who got her pregnant. Shall we and do you have the liver to discuss it parallel with discussing Aisha [ra] and her husband [sa]? Remember who was a wife and who was not? Who was a husband, legally married and who was not but got a woman pregnant, anyhow. I hope you can be honest for once in you discussion here. |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by Nobody: 11:52pm On Aug 20, 2012 |
Unbelievable Reply. |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by koolJ1(f): 12:02am On Aug 21, 2012 |
So this thread was released from bondage? Halleluyah! |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by Nobody: 12:49am On Aug 21, 2012 |
kool J: So this thread was released from bondage? Halleluyah! As this thread just went into bondage. Re: Ten Obvious Reasons Why Islam Is NOT A Religion Of Peace |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by tintingz(m): 1:14am On Aug 21, 2012 |
abouzaid: [b]are you cra.zy or what you copy and paste from one stupi.d davidicke site...i click on the site to check the first headline I saw was "Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/ Is...perversion.htm PedophiliaLet me begin with a quote from a fatwa by the late and unlamented Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran." I challenge the ex-muslim to come out for debate instead posting lies to decieve everyone, from the article NO PROVE FROM THE HADITH NOR QURAN EVEN FROM HISTORY... 1: Not all sources agree with Bukhari about Ayesha's age, Bukhari's Hadith were not collated until 300-odd years after Muhammad's death. Other sources give Ayesha's age as being 16 at marriage and 19 at consummation. 2: Even if her age were 6 / 9, the custom of taking child brides was a part of Middle-Eastern culture. The Jews practised it as well as many of the other nations in the Middle-East and remember too that Mary of Nazareth's age was probably around the 12-14 mark. 3: Customs and Traditions as well as laws were very different then from now. What is considered unacceptable now was not considered anything to comment about then. OR Aisha, the youngest, was the daughter of his closest companion - Abu bakr - who would become the first person to lead the Islamic state after Muhammad. She was nine when the contract was written. She was thirteen when consummated. She was also loved dearly by Muhammad, and she, Aisha, became the one who gave us more of Muhammad's teachings than any other companion. She was a great scholar of Islam. Now, Muhammad married her by way of cementing the relationship between he and Aisha and he and her father. That is what marriage meant to the Arabs. And if it happens to be that such a marriage was looked upon as acceptable at that time and place, then where do we get off passing judgment based upon our time and place? Our norms? You want to talk about looking at the fruits? Read the life of Muhammad. |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by Nobody: 1:17am On Aug 21, 2012 |
What the Hell is Wrong with you..? lol |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by Nobody: 2:11am On Aug 21, 2012 |
Reading the original post it is baffling how this insane character (may urine be upon him)still has any kind of following in this century. I have come to the conclusion that it is a combination of culture and the punishment for abandonment of islam (death). Only God in His infinite wisdom knows why he allowed this evil doctrine to manifest itself on mankind in the guise of religion. |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by abouzaid: 2:50am On Aug 21, 2012 |
@koolj, this is a new thread, it's the third time and they keep hiding,removing and moving it.they don't want freedom of expression from non Muslims. |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by truthislight: 3:14am On Aug 21, 2012 |
tintingz: are you cra.zy or what you copy and paste from one stupi.d davidicke site...i click on the site to check the first headline I saw was "Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims come out for debate Did you say debate? Do you want his head to be talking without the body? We know you naa lol he is frustrated. Go sleep befor you have cardiac arrest pls. This is the must disgusting things i have ever come across ascribed to a religion that people still follows. |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by Nobody: 4:36am On Aug 21, 2012 |
Lol @ this thread. This is why Ayan Hirsi Ali gets my respect. Not because she talks down about Muslims. In fact I respect Muslims to the fullest however, she exposed everything that has been mentioned on this thread live and direct SOOO many times, yet people STILL seem to be "astonished" when they read about Prophet Mohammed's fetishes. LOL. Funny thing is some folks popping shotz and fail to realize as Christians/Catholics you need to put down the heat because if I am not mistaken, s3xual abuse (of little girls AND boys) is known secret within the faith and the international community. This is why I don't follow any particular religion... Anyway, In defense of the Prophet..."do as he says, not as he does." |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by Nobody: 4:38am On Aug 21, 2012 |
truthislight: |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by tintingz(m): 6:01am On Aug 21, 2012 |
There is a lot of criticism on marriage age in Islam. Some allege that Muslim marriage law allows marriage of minors. However, Quran indicates at least on one place that there is definite age which can be termed as age of marriage: “Make trial of orphans until they reach the age of marriage; if then ye find sound judgment in them, release their property to them; but consume it not wastefully, nor in haste against their growing up.” (Quran 4: 6 Abdullah Yusufali) The Muslim jurists agree that the ‘age of marriage’ mentioned here is age of puberty. Shafis alone declare that age of 15 years should be taken as age of marriage. Other branches of Islam don’t give any specific age but agree that age of marriage can be different in different regions depending upon the age of puberty. Furthermore, consent of a Muslim marriage partner is not recognized unless she reaches to the age of puberty. Recent History Different societies have been accepting different levels of age as marriage age in different times. When Quran was revealed the world society was passing through dark ages. Slavery was institution of the day. Women were treated like any other commodity. Islam not only revolted against these social evils but also allowed the women to enter into marriage contract with their free consent. Quran seems the first book ever that talks about age of marriage. The states who have not fixed the marriage age, whether signatories or not, have legislated differently for age of marriage. This list includes most of countries and states of the United States for minimum legal marriage age for men and women. However, different countries have lower bar for male and female to marry with consent of their parents. The Muslim living in these countries are bound to follow the coded marriage age. Male 22, Female 20 China (PRC), Both 21 Puerto Rico, Philippines, Singapore, Male 21, Female 18 Algeria, Bangladesh, India, Male 21, Female 17 Mississippi, Male 16, Female 16 Hong Kong (without parent consent it is 21 for both genders), SAR of China, Both 20 Senegal, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, Male 20, Female 17 Tunisia Male 20, Female 15 Thailand Male 19, Female 17 Nebraska Both 18 Ethiopia, Morocco, Chile, Peru, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Venezuela, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Sri Lanka, Austria, Belgium, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Republic of Ireland, Italy, Lithuania, Netherland, Norway, Romania, Russia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine Male 18, Female 17 Indiana, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Uzbekistan, Northern Ireland, Male 18, Female 16 Pakistan, Egypt, South Africa, Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Mexico, Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Ohio, Indonesia, Poland, Portugal, England and Wales, Jersey, Australia, New Zealand, Male 18, Female 15 Tanzania, Georgia, Hawai, Missouri, Male 18, Female 14 Afghanistan, Male 17, Female 14 Madgascar, Both 16 Kenya, Maldives, Scotland, Puberty Sudan, Yemen Male 16, Female 16 Jordan Male 16, Female 14 Paraguay Male 15, Female 13 Iran http://muslim-marriage-guide.com/marriage-age.html |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by tintingz(m): 6:09am On Aug 21, 2012 |
truthislight:LOL MANY PEEPS HAVE DEBATED BUT NO HEAD WAS CUT OFF E.G AHMED DEEDAT DEBATES IF THE STU.PID MAN IS TRUE OF IS ARTICLE LET HIM COME OUT FOR DEBATE...BY THE WAY CAN YOU SHOW ME THE AGE LIMIT OF MARRIAGE AND SEX ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE BY JEHOVA? OR FROM EARLY PEOPLE |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by abouzaid: 10:39am On Aug 21, 2012 |
@tintingz, at what age did muhammed have sex with aisha,did he thigh(child molestation) at 6? How many wives did he marry? Did he have sex with his slave girls including the married slave women he captured at war? Etc. Simple question asked from your own holy books and your could not give an answer. |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by Sweetnecta: 10:58am On Aug 21, 2012 |
@~Royal~: do you have anything to contribute or you just follow follow and being an armchair quarterback on monday after the sunday afternoon football, not soccer mind you? i know you dont have any sincerity in your bone. @Kool J: get Jehovah, Yahweh or Eli/Elohim from Halleuysh/Halleluyah, and you will not be able to do it. I will easily get Yah Allahu/Yah Ellahu from it. I have to say something about the pictures of nigerian neighborhood; though off topic, why is there lack of beauty to the eyes instead it all looks like war zone, fallout shelters? Nigeria needs to learn about landscape and property maintenance. Everywhere is eruku and with all the pretty clothing, the wearer is covered with dust and she is not ashamed to walk the dirty streets. |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by Sweetnecta: 11:19am On Aug 21, 2012 |
@Abouzaid: by abouzaid: 10:39amAbouzaid, what age did holy Ghost become intimate with Mary? Did the holy ghost thigh [first indication of rape] at 14? How many times did holy ghost over shadowed and came upon her? Did the holy ghost have intimacy with his creation, the woman Mary to produce your human God Jesus? Yes or no? abouzaid, i can respond to each of your false allegations and make your God look worse than a common criminal. No man is ever accused of molesting his legal wife, just because she is very young to him. I know. I am married to a grown women who is very young to me. Remember your God did not marry Mary. Oh no. He didnt see fit that she was good enough to be respected, hijacking her from the hand of old man Joseph who was yet to pay for her, though your Bible says he was already "toastng" her. This whole Mary thing with the ghost God and Joseph is frosting with fraudulence activities: She did not have anything to say about "nothing". We read that Aisha [ra] participated in the formulation of the marriage contract. You are a nigerian. How many woman you know participated in the formulation of their marriage contracts? Do you know what marriage contract is in christianity if you are? Its prenuptial agreement. Islam invented it. Many notable nigerian married younger wives; Ojukwu was one of them. Tell me a christian in any part of the world, in any time from Paul onward who has any morality to stand up to Muhammad [sa] or any of his followers [ra]? I will then tell you where you are completely wrong. |
Re: Prophet Mohammed Was A Womaniser? by truthislight: 11:52am On Aug 21, 2012 |
Sweetnecta: @Abouzaid: Abouzaid, what age did holy Ghost become intimate with Mary? Did the holy ghost thigh [first indication of rape] at 14? How many times did holy ghost over shadowed and came upon her? Did the holy ghost have intimacy with his creation, the woman Mary to produce your human God Jesus? Yes or no? ^^^^ So you mean that the six(6)years old girl participated in her marriage formulation Are you really aware of what you are saying? Great! Thats it. Insanity. |
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