na2day!:
[size=13pt]Samsung threatens to sue Apple if next iPhone has LTE[/size]

Well how’s this for a comeback? After being informed that they would have to pony up $1.05 billion for infringing on design and utility patents owned by Apple, Samsung has threatened to use a very important piece of firepower at some point down the line. Korea Times is reporting that Samsung is ready to sue Apple if the next iPhone has 4G LTE.

Samsung enjoys an extensive patent portfolio pertaining to LTE technology, and they reportedly own 10% of all LTE patents currently floating around. Apple has shown a key interest in LTE with the advent of the iPad 3. Because of its arrival inside the latest iPad the tech industry fully expects Apple to follow suit with the next iPhone.



“But why are they waiting for the iPhone if the iPad is out there right now,” you ask. Well, for one, waiting for the first LTE iPhone is probably the best strategic move Samsung can make. The iPhone makes up a lot more of Apple’s mobile sales than the iPad, and Samsung likely wants to land the biggest blow they can.

This is a very interesting development to behold, and it’ll be interesting to see if these supposed threats will change Apple’s mind about using LTE in the next iPhone. But even with the patents to back them up, Samsung could be subject to FRAND rules because of LTE being a standard.

Should the next iPhone launch with LTE and should Samsung decide to sue, it’s unlikely they’ll be able to get a victory of the same magnitude. I’m no patent expert, though, so I’m just going to grab some movie popcorn and watch this one unfold.

http://phandroid.com/2012/08/30/samsung-threatens-to-sue-apple-if-next-iphone-has-lte/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

texazzpete:

My points have not been 'noted' by the people who continue to dispute my points of view. Going the extra mile to prove something can never be described as 'childish'...except in your underdeveloped mind.

My wife buys her own phones...and no 'chinese' phone in the market is more costly than the Bold she uses...

By the way, you're here babbling about 'childishness' and yet at your age you don't realize the term 'chinko' is a racial slur!

Bawss1: Again I couldn't resist sharing this comment about the Tokyo court ruling this morning. (Apple lost its lawsuit in that country against Samsung)


Japanese Courts: "sigh, really Apple? You know this isn't going to fly?"

Apple: "Hey we had to try right? Our trial worked out pretty well in America didn't it?"

Samsung: "It's all good because Japan knew what America won't admit. You're full of ish. Our S3s are selling out after the verdict anyways. Show us an iPhone that can do what the S3 does and then come talk to us."

Apple: The S3 wouldn't exist if it weren't for us. It's a glorified KIRF. Suck it Samsung. We can give you 1 billion reasons why the iPhone is better than the S3. Where's our money you hacks? If we don't have a check waiting for us tomorrow....

Motorola: "Google called, they want their notification bar back. RIM is on hold, they want their BBM ripped iMessage KIRF back, the Ghost of Palm left a message saying iOS still isn't better than webOS and Dropbox is in the lobby laughing at iCloud.

Apple: "Don't worry, we have lawsuits waiting for those clowns too. We have to protect our IP at all costs!"

American Jury: Fair is fair, we agree with Apple. Besides, we went to a Gamestop and noticed the Nexus 70 with the GeeBees for $200 looked like an iPad and the bar of soap at Rite Aid was rectangular, so there might be some infringement there too.

UK, Germany, Japan, South Korean Courts: *facepalm*
-Elite MonsterHunter

Bawss1: The last is yet to be heard about this patent battle

Just saw on CNN breaking news that Apple loses patent claim against Samsung in a Tokyo district court.

texazzpete:

They aren't the same patents that were used in the US lawsuit.

texazzpete:

They aren't the same patents that were used in the US lawsuit.

kingsilly:
texazzpete just let it go...apple will alwayz rock no nid trying to convert diz fandriod guys

texazzpete:

This kind of article would have to come from a website called 'phandroid', wouldn't it?

Sorry to say this, but this article is VERY VERY dubious. I'll explain

First of all, no company would show their hands before the event. There's no way Samsung would pre-announce an intention to sue Apple weeks before the iPhone release.
Secondly, any LTE patents would likely be FRAND based...and any FRAND patent owner is mandated to make available their IP for use under reasonable terms.
Thirdly, as the article notes, the iPad 3 comes with LTE. Any software implementation in the iPad will make its way to the iPhone. Failure to litigate for the iPad 3 will damage any case for the next iPhone.

Finally, Apple doesn't make the LTE chip. The manufacturer (for example, Qualcomm) would already be licensing the patents before supplying to Apple. Hence no scope to litigate.

Samsung confirmed that it will immediately sue Apple if the latter releases products using advanced long-term evolution (LTE) mobile technology. LTE has been emerging as the top standard in the global mobile industry.

According to data from Thomson-Reuters, Nokia ranked top with 18.9 percent in terms of the number of LTE patents, followed by Qualcomm with 12.5 percent, Samsung Electronics with 12.2 percent and Ericsson with 11.6 percent.

na2day!:



At the end of the day, whoever wins this, I hope the powers that be will see how absurd the current state of the patent system is and a major reform will be undertaken.

The only thing I regret is that meanwhile, the parasites on society, called "attorneys" will line their pockets with cash that will ultimately come from the consumer.

Bawss1:

Certainly. Until the patent laws - and copyright too! - are reformed these kinds of ridiculous lawsuits do nothing but shortchange customers.

Bawss1: Copy. Combine. Transform. Those have been the steps that lead to innovation. Virtually all of the innovations that lie in history have followed these steps, from Gutenberg's printing press to Henry Ford's horseless carriage and even Apple's GUI in the late 70s. All those works borrowed from the ideas of others. Lawsuits and litigations disrupt this flow and stifle the innovative process. As has been pointed out severally Apple in its early days would have just closed shop had Xerox sued it for copying the GUI!
I wonder what kind of innovation will result if no one was ever allowed to copy, that's basically asking to reinvent the wheel for any new product.

Samsung's fears are justified, this lawsuit is a bad omen for innovation.

texazzpete: Apple is being ridiculous

http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/31/apple-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-patent-lawsuit/

Now they are taking this crap too far.

4llerbuntu: Truth is with their new phones, what do you envisage to be the innovation that will stand them out?


sure their present products are nice, but this is a company for whom the last two product releases had retina display and Siri, facebook and twitter integration as the "innovations"


To change the form factor to make it bigger has a lot of issues within their ecosystem. apps, screen res etc.
to put a bigger battery is also iffy, see above.
LTE etc are already covered by the competition

therefore its quite understandable that they go after the competition, at least now they acknowledge that there is competition.

the comparative advantage they used to have over things like apps, battery life, hardware, looks have been eroded. unless the iphone 5 will give blowjobs on demand, when its released, pple wil look at it, and at options like SGS3 and decide.

personally its a no-brainer. lets wait and see sha

akinlolusewanu9: To make the copying worst, they now applied to build their new headquarters at Apple's Silicon Valley. Meaning Samsung will also be called a Silicon Valley Company just like Apple. See for yourselves http://phonegist..com/2013/07/samsung-builds-silicon-valley-near-apple.html