I was going through some articles about Christianity and the teachings of peace in the bible, but before i make any comment, I'd like Christians to please gimme some idea about what Christianity really says in relation to peace.

My bad!!!! if it kinda feels like am against something, nah! it ain't like that. just try'n to make some people see the part of the bible they don't read, don't wanna practice or rather wanna deny. once again My bad!!!!


Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)



Kill Witches

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)



Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)



Kill Fortunetellers

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)



Death for Hitting Dad

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)



Death for Cursing Parents

1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)



Death for Adultery

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)



Death for Fornication

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)



Death to Followers of Other Religions

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)



Kill Nonbelievers

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)



Kill False Prophets

If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)



Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)



Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)



Kill Followers of Other Religions.

1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)



2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)



Death for Blasphemy

One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)



Kill False Prophets

1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)



2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)



Infidels and Gays Should Die

So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)



Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle

For the LORD had said to Moses, 'Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.' (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)



Kill People for Working on the Sabbath

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)





2) God's Murders for Stupid Reasons:



Kill Brats

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)



God Kills the Curious

And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)



Killed by a Lion

Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him. (1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT)



Killing the Good Samaritan

The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals.

When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)





3) Murdering Children



Kill Sons of Sinners

Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)



God Will Kill Children

The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children." (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)



Kill Men, Women, and Children

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)



God Kills all the First Born of Egypt

And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)



Kill Old Men and Young Women

"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD. (Jeremiah 51:20-26)

(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter. So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)



God Will Kill the Children of Sinners

If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)



More Rape and Baby Killing

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)





4) Miscellaneous Murders



More of Samson's Murders

(The Lord saves Sampson from standing trial for 30 murders and arson by allowing him to kill 1000 more men.) When he reached Lehi, and the Philistines came shouting to meet him, the spirit of the Lord came upon him: the ropes around his arms become as flax that is consumed by fire and the bonds melted away from his hands. Near him was the fresh jawbone of an ass; he reached out, grasped it, and with it killed a thousand men. (Judges 15:14-15 NAB)



Peter Kills Two People

There was also a man named Ananias who, with his wife, Sapphira, sold some property. He brought part of the money to the apostles, but he claimed it was the full amount. His wife had agreed to this deception. Then Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart? You lied to the Holy Spirit, and you kept some of the money for yourself. The property was yours to sell or not sell, as you wished. And after selling it, the money was yours to give away. How could you do a thing like this? You weren't lying to us but to God." As soon as Ananias heard these words, he fell to the floor and died. Everyone who heard about it was terrified. Then some young men wrapped him in a sheet and took him out and buried him. About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. Peter asked her, "Was this the price you and your husband received for your land?" "Yes," she replied, "that was the price." And Peter said, "How could the two of you even think of doing a thing like this – conspiring together to test the Spirit of the Lord? Just outside that door are the young men who buried your husband, and they will carry you out, too." Instantly, she fell to the floor and died. When the young men came in and saw that she was dead, they carried her out and buried her beside her husband. Great fear gripped the entire church and all others who heard what had happened. (Acts 5:1-11 NLT)



Mass Murder

This is what the Lord of hosts has to say: 'I will punish what Amalek did to Israel when he barred his way as he was coming up from Egypt. Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.' (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)



You Have to Kill

Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood. (Jeremiah 48:10 NAB)



The Danites Kill the Next Town

But the territory of the Danites was too small for them; so the Danites marched up and attacked Leshem, which they captured and put to the sword. Once they had taken possession of Lesham, they renamed the settlement after their ancestor Dan. (Joshua 19:47 NAB)



God Kills Some More

Then the LORD said to me, "Even if Moses and Samuel stood before me pleading for these people, I wouldn't help them. Away with them! Get them out of my sight! And if they say to you, 'But where can we go?' tell them, 'This is what the LORD says: Those who are destined for death, to death; those who are destined for war, to war; those who are destined for famine, to famine; those who are destined for captivity, to captivity.' "I will send four kinds of destroyers against them," says the LORD. "I will send the sword to kill, the dogs to drag away, the vultures to devour, and the wild animals to finish up what is left. Because of the wicked things Manasseh son of Hezekiah, king of Judah, did in Jerusalem, I will make my people an object of horror to all the kingdoms of the earth." (Jeremiah 15:1-4 NLT)



God Promises More Killing

I will make Mount Seir utterly desolate, killing off all who try to escape and any who return. I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am the LORD. (Ezekiel 35:7-9 NLT)



The Angel of Death

My angel will go before you and bring you to the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Canaanites, Hivites, and Jebusites; and I will wipe them out. (Exodus 23:23 NAB)



Destruction of Ai

Then the LORD said to Joshua, "Do not be afraid or discouraged. Take the entire army and attack Ai, for I have given to you the king of Ai, his people, his city, and his land. You will destroy them as you destroyed Jericho and its king. But this time you may keep the captured goods and the cattle for yourselves. Set an ambush behind the city." So Joshua and the army of Israel set out to attack Ai. Joshua chose thirty thousand fighting men and sent them out at night with these orders: "Hide in ambush close behind the city and be ready for action. When our main army attacks, the men of Ai will come out to fight as they did before, and we will run away from them. We will let them chase us until they have all left the city. For they will say, 'The Israelites are running away from us as they did before.' Then you will jump up from your ambush and take possession of the city, for the LORD your God will give it to you. Set the city on fire, as the LORD has commanded. You have your orders." So they left that night and lay in ambush between Bethel and the west side of Ai. But Joshua remained among the people in the camp that night.

Early the next morning Joshua roused his men and started toward Ai, accompanied by the leaders of Israel. They camped on the north side of Ai, with a valley between them and the city. That night Joshua sent five thousand men to lie in ambush between Bethel and Ai, on the west side of the city. So they stationed the main army north of the city and the ambush west of the city. Joshua himself spent that night in the valley. When the king of Ai saw the Israelites across the valley, he and all his army hurriedly went out early the next morning and attacked the Israelites at a place overlooking the Jordan Valley. But he didn't realize there was an ambush behind the city. Joshua and the Israelite army fled toward the wilderness as though they were badly beaten, and all the men in the city were called out to chase after them. In this way, they were lured away from the city. There was not a man left in Ai or Bethel who did not chase after the Israelites, and the city was left wide open.

Then the LORD said to Joshua, "Point your spear toward Ai, for I will give you the city." Joshua did as he was commanded. As soon as Joshua gave the signal, the men in ambush jumped up and poured into the city. They quickly captured it and set it on fire. When the men of Ai looked behind them, smoke from the city was filling the sky, and they had nowhere to go. For the Israelites who had fled in the direction of the wilderness now turned on their pursuers. When Joshua and the other Israelites saw that the ambush had succeeded and that smoke was rising from the city, they turned and attacked the men of Ai. Then the Israelites who were inside the city came out and started killing the enemy from the rear. So the men of Ai were caught in a trap, and all of them died. Not a single person survived or escaped. Only the king of Ai was taken alive and brought to Joshua.

When the Israelite army finished killing all the men outside the city, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai was wiped out that day – twelve thousand in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. Only the cattle and the treasures of the city were not destroyed, for the Israelites kept these for themselves, as the LORD had commanded Joshua. So Ai became a permanent mound of ruins, desolate to this very day. Joshua hung the king of Ai on a tree and left him there until evening. At sunset the Israelites took down the body and threw it in front of the city gate. They piled a great heap of stones over him that can still be seen today. (Joshua 8:1-29 NLT)



Killing at Jericho

When the people heard the sound of the horns, they shouted as loud as they could. Suddenly, the walls of Jericho collapsed, and the Israelites charged straight into the city from every side and captured it. They completely destroyed everything in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, donkeys – everything. (Joshua 6:20-21 NLT)



God Kills an Extended Family

"You have done more evil than all who lived before you. You have made other gods and have made me furious with your gold calves. And since you have turned your back on me, I will bring disaster on your dynasty and kill all your sons, slave or free alike. I will burn up your royal dynasty as one burns up trash until it is all gone. I, the LORD, vow that the members of your family who die in the city will be eaten by dogs, and those who die in the field will be eaten by vultures.'" Then Ahijah said to Jeroboam's wife, "Go on home, and when you enter the city, the child will die. All Israel will mourn for him and bury him. He is the only member of your family who will have a proper burial, for this child is the only good thing that the LORD, the God of Israel, sees in the entire family of Jeroboam. And the LORD will raise up a king over Israel who will destroy the family of Jeroboam. This will happen today, even now! Then the LORD will shake Israel like a reed whipped about in a stream. He will uproot the people of Israel from this good land that he gave their ancestors and will scatter them beyond the Euphrates River, for they have angered the LORD by worshiping Asherah poles. He will abandon Israel because Jeroboam sinned and made all of Israel sin along with him." (1 Kings 14:9-16 NLT)



Mass Murder

The men of Israel withdrew through the territory of the Benjaminites, putting to the sword the inhabitants of the city, the livestock, and all they chanced upon. Moreover they destroyed by fire all the cities they came upon. (Judges 20:48 NAB)



The Angel of Death

That night the angel of the Lord went forth and struck down one hundred and eighty five thousand men in the Assyrian camp. Early the next morning, there they were, all the corpuses of the dead. (2 Kings 19:35 NAB)



Kill Your Neighbors

(Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, "All of you who are on the LORD's side, come over here and join me." And all the Levites came. He told them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors." The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, "Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing." (Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)



Kill the Family of Sinners

And Joshua said to Achan, My son, give, I pray thee, glory to the LORD God of Israel, and make confession to him; and tell me now what thou hast done, hide it not from me. And Achan answered Joshua, and said, Indeed I have sinned against the LORD God of Israel, and thus and thus have I done. When I saw among the spoils a goodly Babylonish garment, and two hundred shekels of silver, and a wedge of gold of fifty shekels weight, then I coveted them, and took them, and behold, they are hid in the earth in the midst of my tent, and the silver under it." [Note that the sin is not looting, but failing to give the loot to the treasury of the Lord.] "So Joshua sent messengers, and they ran to the tent, and behold, it was hid in his tent, and the silver under it. And they took them from the midst of the tent, and brought them to Joshua, and to all the children of Israel, and laid them out before the LORD. And Joshua, and all Israel with him, took Achan the son of Zerah, and the silver, and the garment, and the wedge of gold, and his sons, and his daughters, and his oxen, and his asses, and his sheep, and his tent, and all that he had: and they brought them to the valley of Achor. And Joshua said, why hast thou troubled us? the LORD shall trouble thee this day. And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones. And they raised over him a great heap of stones to this day. So the LORD turned from the fierceness of his anger: wherefore the name of that place was called the valley of Achor to this day. (Joshua 7:19-26 Webster's Bible)



Kill Followers of Other Religions

While the Israelites were camped at Acacia, some of the men defiled themselves by sleeping with the local Moabite women. These women invited them to attend sacrifices to their gods, and soon the Israelites were feasting with them and worshiping the gods of Moab. Before long Israel was joining in the worship of Baal of Peor, causing the LORD's anger to blaze against his people. The LORD issued the following command to Moses: "Seize all the ringleaders and execute them before the LORD in broad daylight, so his fierce anger will turn away from the people of Israel." So Moses ordered Israel's judges to execute everyone who had joined in worshiping Baal of Peor. Just then one of the Israelite men brought a Midianite woman into the camp, right before the eyes of Moses and all the people, as they were weeping at the entrance of the Tabernacle. When Phinehas son of Eleazar and grandson of Aaron the priest saw this, he jumped up and left the assembly. Then he took a spear and rushed after the man into his tent. Phinehas thrust the spear all the way through the man's body and into the woman's stomach. So the plague against the Israelites was stopped, but not before 24,000 people had died. (Numbers 25:1-9 NLT)



Murder

At the customary time for offering the evening sacrifice, Elijah the prophet walked up to the altar and prayed, "O LORD, God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, prove today that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant. Prove that I have done all this at your command. O LORD, answer me! Answer me so these people will know that you, O LORD, are God and that you have brought them back to yourself." Immediately the fire of the LORD flashed down from heaven and burned up the young bull, the wood, the stones, and the dust. It even licked up all the water in the ditch! And when the people saw it, they fell on their faces and cried out, "The LORD is God! The LORD is God!" Then Elijah commanded, "Seize all the prophets of Baal. Don't let a single one escape!" So the people seized them all, and Elijah took them down to the Kishon Valley and killed them there. (1 Kings 18:36-40 NLT)



Kill All of Babylon

"Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you," says the LORD. "Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction". (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)



Micah Kills a Whole Town

Then, with Micah's idols and his priest, the men of Dan came to the town of Laish, whose people were peaceful and secure. They attacked and killed all the people and burned the town to the ground. There was no one to rescue the residents of the town, for they lived a great distance from Sidon and had no allies nearby. This happened in the valley near Beth-rehob.Then the people of the tribe of Dan rebuilt the town and lived there. They renamed the town Dan after their ancestor, Israel's son, but it had originally been called Laish. (Judges 18:27-29 NLT) (Note that God approves of this slaughter in verse 6.)

hey Homaticaya...I'll try to explain for you in the most simple way for you to understand it....

Once you realize that the old testament and the new testament are different, you will know what am talking about...
For example, old testament = judgement on the spot
new testament = judgement after death

That's why you see so many examples of striking some people dead on the spot...
And as for the wars that happened and many people who were killed in the name of the one and only living God, well that is a most...
Why ? Think about it, if they didn't kill others then they would be killed by those others, so it's a survivor need...Not to mention that if these others were friendly and not barbarians then no wars would have happened..But God knew their hearts, so that's why there was no problem in killing them...
So you need to understand that the old testament had many differences then the new testament...Specially the situation they were put in...They either survive and live, or get killed and die...So all of the killing examples your talking about was a must...Since many years ago all they did was conquering lands and so on...
And as for the killing of the idol worshipers and witchdoctors and so on...Once again, the old testament was JUDGEMENT AT THE SPOT, so killing these cold heart people(knowing that they will hurt others and never change) was a fair thing to do...Do you really think God is that dumb to start commanding killing randomly ? Trust me, he knew what he was doing.

I hope this reply opened your eyes on some things that you were questioning...God Bless

P.S : We should really thank God for the new testament(Grace), that would give each and everyone of us like million chances in our lifetime to repent...But you know some still wont repent no matter what happens...And that's sad

May God forgive you,why must you write all these words from 'old testament' against christianity?

Ay92: May God forgive you,why must you write all these words from 'old testament' against christianity?

He has the right to ask,so let him ask...If he did not ask, how will he get a true answer ?

Oldtestament is judaism. New testament is more of xtianity

@ Op you must have taken a lot of time to carry out research SHM I only hope you take out as much time to read the new testment for there in Jesus Christ said
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. "And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. " (Matthew 5:38-41).
Stop half research do it thoroughly if whenever you start.
Come to think of it I 've seen koran only but once in my entire 2 decades plus on earth but this fellow seem to have read so much of the bible it gives me hope that with good follow- up you leave that dark retarded religion of yours and join the religion of light christianity.

HeKnows: hey Homaticaya...I'll try to explain for you in the most simple way for you to understand it....

Once you realize that the old testament and the new testament are different, you will know what am talking about...
For example, old testament = judgement on the spot
new testament = judgement after death

That's why you see so many examples of striking some people dead on the spot...
And as for the wars that happened and many people who were killed in the name of the one and only living God, well that is a most...
Why ? Think about it, if they didn't kill others then they would be killed by those others, so it's a survivor need...Not to mention that if these others were friendly and not barbarians then no wars would have happened..But God knew their hearts, so that's why there was no problem in killing them...
So you need to understand that the old testament had many differences then the new testament...Specially the situation they were put in...They either survive and live, or get killed and die...So all of the killing examples your talking about was a must...Since many years ago all they did was conquering lands and so on...
And as for the killing of the idol worshipers and witchdoctors and so on...Once again, the old testament was JUDGEMENT AT THE SPOT, so killing these cold heart people(knowing that they will hurt others and never change) was a fair thing to do...Do you really think God is that dumb to start commanding killing randomly ? Trust me, he knew what he was doing.

I hope this reply opened your eyes on some things that you were questioning...God Bless

P.S : We should really thank God for the new testament(Grace), that would give each and everyone of us like million chances in our lifetime to repent...But you know some still wont repent no matter what happens...And that's sad

Thanks for your reply, its really matured of you to put your words out like this, i actually did quote from the old testament, foolish of me, kinda like the laws of "God" are not so consistent, it changes with time. Must be why Jesus claimed he was sent only to the lost ship of Israel, and it's not proper to take the children's food and give it to DOGS. Does that means he sees gentiles as DOGS.
P.S :So sorry if my words came out harsh just quoting from the Bible.

i hope you wont mind me quoting from the new testament then. because i got quotations from there too

saintvc: Oldtestament is judaism. New testament is more of xtianity

Why would God change his religion. Does that sound like a perfect and non-racist idea to you.

kpozite: @ Op you must have taken a lot of time to carry out research SHM I only hope you take out as much time to read the new testment for there in Jesus Christ said
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. "And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. " (Matthew 5:38-41).
Stop half research do it thoroughly if whenever you start.
Come to think of it I 've seen koran only but once in my entire 2 decades plus on earth but this fellow seem to have read so much of the bible it gives me hope that with good follow- up you leave that dark retarded religion of yours and join the religion of light christianity.

To reply you, i never mentioned in this write-up that am a muslim neither am i denying the fact.
you have only seen the Quran (The main source of the islamic believe) once in your life but u describe it as "that dark retarded religion" and you advise me that has always had a copy of the bible with me (both old and new testament) since i was like six years old that i have done "half research", So sad for how u think, where did you get that information about the name you gave the religion from? lemme guess! an hearsay or rather the holy spirit told u so (i just can't get enough of that claim), you know nothing about this religion yet you blacklist. Kinda like you need more of your advice than i do. My motto: No knowledge is a waste. please find out about an idea on first hand before u blacklist it. no good reasonable philosopher reason your way, abeg change.

P.S "dark retarded religion" (so much for the peace mode), what do u think a Muslim would do if you were to say this to a Muslim's face.

OP too much copy and paste is not good for your brain. All this islamic websites bashing christianity with no proof whatsoever. All this re judaism not Christianity. And next time you're copying and pasting, read it. Like this verse below really makes you look a fool.

Infidels and Gays Should Die
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was thetruth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but notthe Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to Be Intimate and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal intimate relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let themdo things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

Where does it say infidels and gays should go and die? Pls visit www.jihadwatch.org

the question i will also ask is that the quotation you made are they not also stories in the quoran. so what difference does it make if does killing took place you have the stories in your quaran too.

Paris_Love: OP too much copy and paste is not good for your brain. All this islamic websites bashing christianity with no proof whatsoever. All this re judaism not Christianity. And next time you're copying and pasting, read it. Like this verse below really makes you look a fool.

Where does it say infidels and gays should go and die? Pls visit www.jihadwatch.org

1) My God!!! did u really study in English or some archaic language, you don't really expect me to start explaining the verses of the Bible to you, Do you, plssssss for God sake, what is this part of the verse talking about "They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)"
Don't worry! ama take my time to give you some lecture about the bible, Well it's not like you open it besides what is being read to you on Sundays, "God's death penalty for those who do this things" please explain to me what "death penalty" means, and again "those things" what was that referring to? homosexuality.

Please don't tell me you are actually trying to support the fact that there's nofin wrong with homosexuality.
For me i hate it, the perpetrators, and i support those penalties 100%

2) I wouldn't ever has brought this up, it does not tally with common sense, yet since you decided to go there, amma have to branch with ya, I quote from the bible and all you could do was use some people's action to attack me back!!!! So pathetic, We have pastors who are homosexuals, murderers, child molesters ................... etc yet i dont want to use that because i belive its just for their own personal gain, not the teachings of the bible.

manmacho: the question i will also ask is that the quotation you made are they not also stories in the Qur'an. so what difference does it make if does killing took place you have the stories in your Qur'an too.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh thank you very much, few i mean like just about 4 of these things on the list are in the Qur'an like killing of homosexuals, though they sound more explicit in the bible and even go beyond the jurisprudence as mentioned in the Qur'an, while most on the list sounds very much ridiculous to Islamic jurisprudence like killing of children, kill your neighbor, kill followers of other religion etc.

Source:- Check the Qur'an and ask me for explanation.

And pleasssssse stop the ridiculous claim that one book is the old testament (for Judaism) and the other is the new testament (for Christians), Jews don't believe in the bible either new or old testament neither do they believe in Jesus, they have their religion (Judaism) and their own book ( the torah). Christians use both books as we all know.

homaticaya:

1) My God!!! did u really study in English or some archaic language, you don't really expect me to start explaining the verses of the Bible to you, Do you, plssssss for God sake, what is this part of the verse talking about "They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)"
Don't worry! ama take my time to give you some lecture about the bible, Well it's not like you open it besides what is being read to you on Sundays, "God's death penalty for those who do this things" please explain to me what "death penalty" means, and again "those things" what was that referring to? homosexuality.

Please don't tell me you are actually trying to support the fact that there's nofin wrong with homosexuality.
For me i hate it, the perpetrators, and i support those penalties 100%

2) I wouldn't ever has brought this up, it does not tally with common sense, yet since you decided to go there, amma have to branch with ya, I quote from the bible and all you could do was use some people's action to attack me back!!!! So pathetic, We have pastors who are homosexuals, murderers, child molesters ................... etc yet i dont want to use that because i belive its just for their own personal gain, not the teachings of the bible.

Lol we've Pastors that re the bolded? Even if we do that's not the norm. The murderers and molesters re criminals, when they're caught, they're despised and punished. The difference is that ped0philes in the Christian society are despised and if caught go to jail while you worship a ped0phile and follow his examples. How dare you talk about molestation when your prophet was a ped0phile? You don’t seem to be aware of how much fool of yourself you make when you blame Christianity for crimes of some of their sick individuals and forget the man whom you call a prophet was a ped0phile.

Having sex with a 9-year-old child at the age of 53 for someone who called himself the best of creation is not a “
matter of taste”. It is disgusting. How can a 53 year old man have sexual feelings of a 9 year old child? Children at that age do not have femininity. The thought of that is just sickening. This is not the question of perversity. This is a question of insanity. Muhammad's lust for women is not insane. It's perversity. But having sexual feelings of a 9 year old child is insanity. That man was sick in the head. How can any sane person follow such a monster? Muslims must be ashamed for not seeing anything wrong in that and justifying it by nonsensical talks of moral relativism.
Pedophilia is a crime and it is ®ape. Even when the child is allegedly consenting, the consensus of a child is not an alibi. When Muhammad had sex with under age children he was committing the crime of ®ape. In Christian society people have zero tolerance for pedophilia! Pedophiles are hunted and brought to justice even if the crime has happened decades ago. The westerners have a good handle over this problem. Pedophilia is a problem in Islamic world. Most Sheikhs are ped0philes. Most Mullahs are ped0philes. Your Prophet was a ped0phile and pedophilia is promised as a heavenly reward to Muslim men.

Now back @ your quote the bible makes it clear that the wages of sin is death.

Romans 6:21-23
New International Version (NIV)
21 What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! 22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become servants of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Amen Say Amen

Paris_Love:
Lol we've Pastors that re the bolded? Even if we do that's not the norm. The murderers and molesters re criminals, when they're caught, they're despised and punished. The difference is that ped0philes in the Christian society are despised and if caught go to jail while you worship a ped0phile and follow his examples. How dare you talk about molestation when your prophet was a ped0phile? You don’t seem to be aware of how much fool of yourself you make when you blame Christianity for crimes of some of their sick individuals and forget the man whom you call a prophet was a ped0phile.

Having sex with a 9-year-old child at the age of 53 for someone who called himself the best of creation is not a “
matter of taste”. It is disgusting. How can a 53 year old man have sexual feelings of a 9 year old child? Children at that age do not have femininity. The thought of that is just sickening. This is not the question of perversity. This is a question of insanity. Muhammad's lust for women is not insane. It's perversity. But having sexual feelings of a 9 year old child is insanity. That man was sick in the head. How can any sane person follow such a monster? Muslims must be ashamed for not seeing anything wrong in that and justifying it by nonsensical talks of moral relativism.
Pedophilia is a crime and it is ®ape. Even when the child is allegedly consenting, the consensus of a child is not an alibi. When Muhammad had sex with under age children he was committing the crime of ®ape. In Christian society people have zero tolerance for pedophilia! Pedophiles are hunted and brought to justice even if the crime has happened decades ago. The westerners have a good handle over this problem. Pedophilia is a problem in Islamic world. Most Sheikhs are ped0philes. Most Mullahs are ped0philes. Your Prophet was a ped0phile and pedophilia is promised as a heavenly reward to Muslim men.

Now back @ your quote the bible makes it clear that the wages of sin is death.

Romans 6:21-23
New International Version (NIV)
21 What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! 22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become servants of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Amen Say Amen

Grow up and talk sense, am not here to abuse you, base your comments on facts not just some hearsays.

ped0phile and pedophilia

Reallllllllllllly!

please read this

http://www.facebook.com/notes/the-league-of-believers-of-truth/why-prophet-muhammadpeace-be-upon-him-is-not-a-pedo-the-haters-argument-finally-/202572269774784
http://www.themodernreligion.com/prophet/prophet_aisha.htm

respect yourself or amma change my attitude too~!

Where a blood-thirty God sacrificed his ONLY biggoten son for ritual. Ha! Anything is possible o!

Paris_Love: Yea have seen your sites before. Pls visit this site as well. It countered all those arguments. And ped0phila is sanctioned in your Quran Surahtul At-Talaq 65:4

http://www.islam-watch.org/Amarkhan/pedophilia-in-islam/pedophilia-islam.htm#Ch6

http://www.islam-watch.org/Amarkhan/pedophilia-in-islam/pedophilia-islam.htm

Please refer to this thread to see that Aisha was at least 15 year old and could have being 19 year old or more as at the time she was married by the Prophet (sa):
https://www.nairaland.com/846958/tell-me-why-mohammed-married

The verse you're mentioning in Surat at-Talaq is about women who no longer menstruate.and if you want to interpret it as girls who haven't attained puberty,then I am sure you're familiar with the concept of betrothal.

Paris_Love:
[color=#006600]Lol we've Pastors that re the bolded? Even if we do that's not the norm. The murderers and molesters re criminals, when they're caught, they're despised and punished....

-Mary the mother of Jesus according to the Oxford Dictionary of the Bible was pregnant at the age of 12 and married off to Joseph between the ages of 7 and 9.
(and your God allowed that )



- Christian Byzantine emperors and nobilities also had bride as young as 8 years old.

- in response to Numbers 31:17-18 your scholars say Moses directed the killing of every girl 3 years upward.

- even Rabbis explicitly state numerous times in the Talmud: "A girl three years old may be betrothed through an act of sexual intercourse".

LagosShia:

Please refer to this thread to see that Aisha was at least 15 year old and could have being 19 year old or more as at the time she was married by the Prophet (sa):
https://www.nairaland.com/846958/tell-me-why-mohammed-married

The verse you're mentioning in Surat at-Talaq is about women who no longer menstruate.and if you want to interpret it as girls who haven't attained puberty,then I am sure you're familiar with the concept of betrothal.

Nope it's betrothal;

The Quran has stipulated a waiting period for divorced women to get remarried. This waiting period is called Iddah as mentioned in the Quran. But there is an exception; Allah, the God of the Quran, prescribes no Iddah for a category of divorced women:
O ye who believe! If ye wed believing women and divorce them before ye have touched them, then there is no period that ye should reckon. But content them and release them handsomely.[Quran. 33:49]
From this verses, it is understood that Iddah (stipulated waiting period) is tied to consummation of the marriage. If a woman is divorced by her husband before touching her, i.e. before having sex with her, she need not observe any waiting period to get remarried.


Clearly the reasons for Allah to stipulate Iddah is to avoid chances of pregnancy as a result of sexual relations between the married couple before their divorce.

In cases of divorces, where the husband had sex with the wife, the Quran specifies the Iddah , a waiting period of three months, in verse 65:4:
Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy.

Let us sum up the two verses: a woman, divorced before sex, need not observe any Iddah at all [33:49].
But what is the reason for the prescribed Iddah for girls, who haven’t menstruated yet?
It is, obviously, because šexual intercourse has occurred between the child and her husband. It is, thus, clear that marrying prepubescent girls and having sex with them is sanctioned by the Quran.

F00028:

-Mary the mother of Jesus according to the Oxford Dictionary of the Bible was pregnant at the age of 12 and married off to Joseph between the ages of 7 and 9.

Is oxford dictionary my bible?

christian Byzantine emperors and nobilities also had bride as young as 8 years old.

Those emperors and noblities re not authorities or models to be followed in Christianity. Their actions do not correspond with the basic teachiñgs of christianity. And didn't your prophet lust after a crawling baby? Umar later snatched her up @ 5

- in response to Numbers 31:17-18 your scholars say Moses directed the killing of every girl 3 years upward.

Dem say who say na dem go tire e. See me see wahala

- even Rabbis explicitly state numerous times in the Talmud: "A girl three years old may be betrothed through an act of sexual intercourse".

Do i seem jewish to you? Am yet to see or hear of rabbi that married a 3yr old. There's a every possible chance that your imam is a ped0phile fu©king an underage girl as that's halal.

Paris_Love:
Is oxford dictionary my bible?

really, that's your response
a fact is a fact even if its not in your bible. in any case I can see why they left that out.

when you celebrate christmas on dec.25 is that date in your bible

Paris_Love:

Those emperors and noblities re not authorities or models to be followed in Christianity. Their actions do not correspond with the basic teachiñgs of christianity.

ofcoure they do! they were following Joseph and "the mother of God's" example.

plus they also had a bible:
- that allowed 3 year olds to be forced into sex,
- that allowed fathers to sell their daughters into (sex) slavery,
- that allowed fathers to stick their fingers into their daughters private part,

there really isn't a lot of regard for the female in christianity

Paris_Love:
And didn't your prophet lust after a crawling baby? Umar later snatched her up @ 5

liar, liar.

Paris_Love:
Dem say who say na dem go tire e. See
me see wahala

your scholars

Paris_Love:

Do i seem jewish to you? Am yet to see
or hear of rabbi that married a 3yr old.

so? because YOU never see nko?
like say you get wettin oyinbo de call "an over bloated sense of self estimation"
SMH

Paris_Love:

There's a every possible chance that your
imam is a ped0phile fu©king an underage
girl as that's halal.

since we're on about possibilities, there's also every possible chance that every man in your family is a ped0phile.

homaticaya:

Thanks for your reply, its really matured of you to put your words out like this, i actually did quote from the old testament, foolish of me, kinda like the laws of "God" are not so consistent, it changes with time. Must be why Jesus claimed he was sent only to the lost ship of Israel, and it's not proper to take the children's food and give it to DOGS. Does that means he sees gentiles as DOGS.
P.S :So sorry if my words came out harsh just quoting from the Bible.

i hope you wont mind me quoting from the new testament then. because i got quotations from there too

No worries bro, I'll make the picture clear to you in a second...

Ok,Homaticaya...Did it ever occur to you that God is flexible with his laws and he
changed the view of them(since people didn't really grasp them and took them in a different way)
twice or more so people will adapt to them at whatever situation
or era they're in ? It's not about they're not consistent, it's more about
trying to adapt them within the culture at that point in time...When God sees that
there need a change in some details of the law(being flexible) according to that specific point in time,
then he will change it....Example..: they used to think that doing ANYTHING on the
sabbath day would be taken as sin, but hence Jesus came and did a miracle..Does
that means that Jesus sinned ? No, it means that Jesus showed them that being
an extremist with the law of God will really kill the Love & Mercy of God in these laws
itself...So no, God is not inconsistent with his laws, on the contrary, God is so
loving that he's so flexible with his laws that he's ready to kinda overlook and open the eyes and hearts of these people, to the
real meaning of these laws...I dunno if you got the point or not...
Yes, God is not changing( God is always Love), but that doesn't mean if he changed a thing
or too, just for the sake of his people to become more adaptable with time, means
he's not consistent...Once again he knows what he's doing...I dunno about you, but if am a LOVING GOD, I would
do whatever it takes for my people to be saved, ofcourse without interfearing with there Freewill...So to sum it up,
why do we see so much difference in the laws of the OT and the NT, or in other words, why do we see so much difference
in the way God treated his people and commanded them to do things and so on...The answer would be, God is all knowing and flexible
with his laws, and walk step by step with his people...That's why you see why many prophets was used by God in the old
testemant to wake people up...And at some point in time, God decided to have the ultimate sacrifice Jesus, so we would no
more be far away from him, and hence God would no more interact with people through prophets anymore, but interact on a more personal level
with each and everyone of us...So when the right time came, God saw that the best thing to do was sending a savior, so you and God can now have a direct relationship through his son Jesus, thus using no prophet anymore instead...Thus the ultimate sacrifice(Jesus),
was done for each and every person, in order to have an intimate relationship with your Father/God through
his Son/Sacrifice/Jesus, and through the blood of Jesus each and every person is redeemed.. It's a gift from God to humanity, and every person who doesn't accept this gift, is saying to God in a way or another "Thanks I don't need to have a personal relationship with you, you can keep your
gift(Jesus) for yourself.." And it's really sad to say something like that (that's what we believe btw..)


As for the sheeps of Israel, it's right...He was sent FIRST to the sheep of Isreal
beacuse these so called sheeps are the one's whom will understand Jesus the best,
they had the open heart for him...But after Jesus fnished his ministry, he told his disciples
to go and teach all the nations...So starting FIRST with the sheeps of Isreal, doesn't mean
that he only came for them...Yes he did say I came ONLY for the sheep of Isreal in that time...
But he knew at that time that coming only for these sheep at first(which have a more open heart), would be
enough for him...And out of these sheep(disciples, call them anyname), the whole nations will be
discipled...So I don't see any problem with that...DO you ?

& as for the Gentile women...Think of it in this way...Gentiles were known to be
cold hearted towards God, hence idol worshippers and witches i guess if you can say...So when that women came
to Jesus, he told her that, not because he hates her, no, it's because that's what
the majority of Gentiles are...But did you see that Jesus at the same time was testing
her ? Yes he was...And she proved to be a women with a gr8 faith...And this shows
that eventhough Gentiles are well to be known as DOGS in that time, but at the same
time, Jesus shows the mercy of God and his Love, for granting her according to her faith...
So I don't know about you, but I look at it as a test of faith, rather then labeling her
like dogs, but actually if you looked at the entire story, you could then know why he said that...He was
stating a general fact, and thus testing her...And she proved for him to be a women with a gr8 faith, and got
what she wants, and that's the important thing there.

I hope things are more clear now to you...

F00028:

really, that's your response
a fact is a fact even if its not in your bible. in any case I can see why they left that out.

when you celebrate christmas on dec.25 is that date in your bible

The bible never mentioned the date of Jesus birth just like it never mentioned the age of Mary. And no biblical acct suggests she was a 12yr old. Pls quit the assumptions, your Quran(don't know if you read it) shuns it.

ofcoure they do! they were following Joseph and "the mother of God's" example.

plus they also had a bible:
- that allowed 3 year olds to be forced into sex,
- that allowed fathers to sell their daughters into (sex) slavery,
- that allowed fathers to stick their fingers into their daughters private part,

You would've had a good argument if provided references. And as far as i know, non of these allegations re in the NT. Christianity is new testament. "Old things have passed away"
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there really isn't a lot of regard for the female in christianity

Lol, another baseless argument. Didn't your prophet say that women(muslimahs) re stup!d and deficient in knowledge?

liar, liar.

i don't lie

Muhammad lusts after a crawling baby-girl
(Suhayli, ii.79: In the riwaya of Yunus I. I recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu’l–Fadl) when she was a baby crawling before him and said, ‘If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ But he died before she grew up (ibn Ishaq, 2001, p. 311)

so? because YOU never see nko?
like say you get wettin oyinbo de call "an over bloated sense of self estimation"
SMH

Call it whatever you like. I've not seen or read of a rabbi that married a 3yr old. Rabbis re not ped0philes like your mullahs. Show me 1 and I'll condemn it like am doing your Mullahs. Only perverts can have šexual feelings for a 3 or 9yr old girls.

since we're on about possibilities, there's also every possible chance that every man in your family is a ped0phile.

Non of the men in my family claimed to be a moral figure to be emulated (You [Muhammad] are an exalted character of tremendous morality Q68:4)
As egregious as the claim above is, is not a possibility that your prophet lusted after a crawling baby and violated countless widows and a 9yr old, it's a well documented fact by muslim historians.

Peace.

Paris_Love:
Is oxford dictionary my bible?


Those emperors and noblities re not authorities or models to be followed in Christianity. Their actions do not correspond with the basic teachiñgs of christianity. And didn't your prophet lust after a crawling baby? Umar later snatched her up @ 5


Dem say who say na dem go tire e. See me see wahala


Do i seem jewish to you? Am yet to see or hear of rabbi that married a 3yr old. There's a every possible chance that your imam is a ped0phile fu©king an underage girl as that's halal.

Abeg back to the topic, why digress from it?
whats so peaceful aboiut christianity?

Christian Enmity and Hatred

Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but with a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man's foes will be those of his own household. He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy. (Matthew 10:34-37) All this enmity from the "Prince of Peace!"

Woe to you, Chorazin! woe to you, Bethsaida! ...But I tell you, it shall be more tolerable on the day of judgment for Tyre and Sidon than for you. And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? You shall be brought down. (Luke 10:13) Ditto.

And every one who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands, for my name's sake, will receive a hundred-fold, and inherit eternal life. (Matthew 19:29) By definition, Jesus is a cult leader - and a very effective one with big enticement.

Do you think I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division; for henceforth in one house there will be five divided, three against two and two against three; they will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. (Luke 12:51-53) Phew! That's alotta "againsts"! And enemies.
If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple. (Luke 14:26) More cult brainwashing and hatred.

For nation will rise up against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places: all this is but the beginning of the sufferings. (Matthew 24:7- Setting the stage - why would any "good" and "omnipotent" God cause or allow this to happen?
But I say to you that hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who curse you... (Luke 6:27- Why do you have enemies in the first place? Because of all the enmity and hatred.

Christian Fascism

I tell you, on the day of judgment men will render account for every careless word they utter; for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned. (Matthew 12:36-37) We can kill someone, as long as we speak properly.

You are my friends if you do what I command you. (John 15:14) Yeah, that's what I tell all my friends too.

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore he who resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of him who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain; he is the servant of God to execute his wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be subject, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. For the same reason you also pay taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due. (Romans 13:1-7) Gee, I wonder who wrote these passages?

Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to praise those who do right.... Fear God. Honor the emperor. (1 Peter 2:17) There's the answer.

Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for any honest work ...(Titus 3:1) How convenient for the rulers!
Obey your leaders and submit to them; for they are keeping watch over your souls, as men who will have to give account. (Hebrews 13:17) Truly Christianity is a religion created by rabblerousers!

Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's. (Matthew 22:21) Now, in whose interest would it be for "Jesus" to exhort people to give all their money to the emperor?
Love does not insist on its own way... (1 Corinthians 13:5) So why do Christians?

Christian Bigotry, Racism and Murderous Intent

For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? Go judge those outside. "Drive out the wicked person from among you." (1 Corinthians 5:12-13) The Watchtower of the Jehovah's Witnesses says of this passage: "Today, the Bible-based practice of disfellowshipping unrepentant wrongdoers has served to keep our worship clean and pure."

Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. (Matthew 7:1-2) Just a tad schizophrenic with the above - and the day of judgment.

You brood of vipers! how can you speak good, when you are evil? (Matthew 12:34) And Jesus spends half of the time judging people.
Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! .... You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell! (Matthew 23:29-33) And on it goes.
You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. (John 8:44) Jesus is a self-hating Jew.

...a Canaanite woman ...came out and cried, "Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David; my daughter is severely possessed by a demon. But he did not answer her a word. And his disciples came and begged him, saying, "Send her away, for she is crying after us." He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." But she came and knelt before him, saying, "Lord, help me." And he answered, "It is not fair to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs." (Matthew 15:23) A woman of a different ethnicity approaches the Savior with a sick daughter, and he ignores her and then calls her a dog! And only the house of Israel is to be saved.

It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and of a kind that is not found even among pagans; for a man is living with his father's wife.... Let him who has done this be removed from among you.... with the power of Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan, for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. (1 Corinthians 5:1-5) In other words, it's best to murder him in order to "save" him.
For there are many insubordinate men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially the circumcision party; they must be silenced ...(Titus 1:10-11) In other words, the Jews.

...Zion ...But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's own people ...(1 Peter 2:6-9) Just a tad schizophrenic with the above.

Christian Psycho-Sexual Pathology and Foolishness

But I say to you that every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. (Matthew 5:27) Is it any wonder that they're so uptight? Attraction and flirting are sins!
But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 5:39) Throw out the wicked one from among you, but do not resist him? And not only a pacifist but a masochist.

Woe to the world for temptation! ...And if your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life maimed or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into the eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire. (Matthew 17:7-9) We don't see a lot of self-mutilated one-eyed or one-handed Christians wandering about.

For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to receive this, let him receive it. (Matthew 19:12) And castrated! Perhaps most are.
I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. (1 Corinthians 6:15) No wonder, with all these rules and regulations.

...God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong. (1 Corinthians 1:27) God would rather have a weak, foolish world.
Be wretched and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to dejection. Humble yourselves before the Lord and he will exalt you. (James 4:9-10) Reflecting a masochistic, bootlicking life.

Blessed are the poor, for yours is the kingdom of God. (Luke 6:20) The fact is that poverty is hell. Why doesn't the omnipotent God snap his fingers and get rid of poverty? This comment is exactly what one would expect from the rich people in power.

Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you shall eat, nor about your body, what you shall put on.... Sell your possessions, and give alms. (Luke 12:22-33) Can you imagine living like that in this world? Christians should be running around half-starved and naked, giving all their money away.

One thing you still lack. Sell all that you have and distribute it to the poor ...(Luke 18:22) And now for another commercial break: don't expect the rich rulers to take care of the poor - you do it! And then you'll be poor, so someone else will have to sell their possessions and give their money to you! Is this a pyramid scheme?

For his disciples had gone away into the city to buy food. (John 3: With what money? And how come His Omnipotence doesn't just multiply the loaves and fishes? He needs a bigger audience?

...but whoever denies me before men, I will also deny before my Father who is in heaven. (Matthew 10:33) What a whiner! Go tell your Daddy!
And every one who speaks a word against the Son of man will be forgiven... (Luke 12:10) Get it straight - which is it?

Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.... (John 6:53-53) Isn't it nice we can get so cozy through cannibalism?

The end of all things is at hand ...(1 Peter 4:7) That was 2,000 years ago ...snore.


Christian Sexism and Slavery

It is well for a man not to touch a woman. But because of the temptation to immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 1 Corinthians 7:1-2 Touching women is immoral.

But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of every woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.... any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled dishonors her head ...For if a woman will not veil herself, then she should cut off her hair ...For a man ought not to cover his head; since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. (For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.) 1 Corinthians 11:2-10 The idiotic and sexist story of Adam and Eve turns science on its head by making the man the creator of human life, rather than the woman. Man is woman's God.

Wives, be submissive to your husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. As the church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands. (Ephesians 5:21-24) Again, the man is basically equivalent with God.

...the women should keep silence in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. (1 Corinthians 14:34-35) It is shameful for a woman to BE in church in the first place.

Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet woman will be saved through bearing children, if she continues in faith and love and holiness, with modesty. (1 Timothy 11:15) Yes, shut up and stay pregnant. Very advanced.

Wives, be subject to your husband, as is fitting in the Lord. Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them. Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord. Fathers, do not provoke your children, lest they become discouraged. Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but in singleness of heart, fearing the Lord. (Colossians 3:18-22) Sure, women, children and slaves - put up with your indentured status, for men's sakes.

....and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be sensible, chaste, domestic, kind, and submissive to their husbands, that the word of God may not be discredited.... Bid slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect ...(Titus 2:4-9) It doesn't discredit the word of God that women and children are to be slaves and servants of men?

No one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who had been redeemed from the earth. It is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are chaste ...Revelation 14:3-4 So the 144,000 are all men? And women are defiling. A gay heaven?

Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as to Christ ...(Ephesians 6:5) In other words, be happy about your wretched state - and fearful!

Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be defamed. (1 Timothy 6) Slavery itself doesn't defame God's name?

Servants, be submissive to your masters with all respect, not only to the kind and gentle but to the overbearing. For one is approved if, mindful of God, he endures pain while suffering unjustly. For what credit is it, if when you do wrong and are beaten for it you take it patiently? But if when you do right and suffer for it you take it patiently, you have God's approval. 1 Peter 2:18-20 So, if God is "good" and is in charge of everything, why does anyone suffer unjustly? Unless God is a sadist, and we are meant to be masochists.

[b]Sry to interrupt homaticaya, not only your a person who just doesn't want to hear others..but you also think that you can pick any verse out of context and come to your own conclusions about it(or let me say, copy and paste maybe ?) I could've answered each and every verse you posted, but I have already answered you for the second time about some of your questions..You didn't only not give them a read, but you came with more other verses and copying and pasting all around...And the sad part is that you think you are right with every word you say...But sry to brake it up to you...The way these verses are interpreted are not only out of context, but also out of there true meaning. You are not looking to the deep side of these messages...You're just copying and pasting and pointing fingers...Anws, all the verses are interpreted wrong, and again I could've answered each and every verse you talked about, but sadly I don't think you are a person who's ready to accept the truth with this type of thinking that you have....So, once you're open and ready to discuss these matters in a good way and form, plz let it be known..But since it appears that you are happy with copying and pasting and interpreting verses out of context and in the way that YOU/Others see it...Then I don't think you'll ever get any answers...I think you're wasting your time in here...Take care bro[/b]

HeKnows: [b]Sry to interrupt homaticaya, not only your a person who just doesn't want to hear others..but you also think that you can pick any verse out of context and come to your own conclusions about it(or let me say, copy and paste maybe ?) I could've answered each and every verse you posted, but I have already answered you for the second time about some of your questions..You didn't only not give them a read, but you came with more other verses and copying and pasting all around...And the sad part is that you think you are right with every word you say...But sry to brake it up to you...The way these verses are interpreted are not only out of context, but also out of there true meaning. You are not looking to the deep side of these messages...You're just copying and pasting and pointing fingers...Anws, all the verses are interpreted wrong, and again I could've answered each and every verse you talked about, but sadly I don't think you are a person who's ready to accept the truth with this type of thinking that you have....So, once you're open and ready to discuss these matters in a good way and form, plz let it be known..But since it appears that you are happy with copying and pasting and interpreting verses out of context and in the way that YOU/Others see it...Then I don't think you'll ever get any answers...I think you're wasting your time in here...Take care bro[/b]

Tanks bro!
Copy and Pasting, copy and pasting, copy and pasting. Wow i could not count the number of times you said that in your words, anyways, Am so happy u said u could have answered each of those as supposed "copied and pasted" point of mine.
I would really appreciate if you can please explain each one of them, since you claim i am "copying and Pasting", lets get the explanations rolling bro.



Paris_Love:
You would've had a good argument if provided references…

so you think the bible has any regard for the female

-condemning the ra.pe victim to spend the rest of her life with her ra.pist - Deuteronomy 22:28-29

-sharing out women like party favours - Numbers 31:7-18 or Deuteronomy 20:10-14

-cruel inhuman treatment and rape – Zechariah 14:-2, Judges 21:10-24, Judges 5:30.

-selling own daughters as (sex) slave- Exodus 21:1-11,

-child abuse- Isaiah 13:16, Judges 11:29-40,

-bashing babies against rocks Hosea 13:16, Psalms 137:9

Paris_Love:
"Old things have passed away"

Yeah chiristians like to claim that but they are all very relevant according to Jesus- mat. 5:17, 18

Paris_Love:
Lol, another baseless argument. Didn't your prophet say that women(muslimahs) re stup!d and deficient in knowledge?

no, he didn’t.

Paris_Love:
Muhammad lusts after a crawling baby-girl
(Suhayli, ii.79: In the riwaya of Yunus I. I recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu’l–Fadl) when she was a baby crawling before him and said, ‘If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ But he died before she grew up (ibn Ishaq, 2001, p. 311)

that incident by the historian ibn ishaq most likely never happened. his work is questionable his sources unverified.

Even the famous Polemist and Hatemonger, Robert Spencer admits in his book: The Truth about Muhammad , that "However, Ibn Ishaq's life of Muhammad is so unashamedly hagiographical that its accuracy is questionable." .
- Spencer, Robert: The Truth about Muhammad, Regnery Publishers, 2006 pg. 25

Paris_Love:
Non of the men in my family claimed to be a moral figure to be emulated…

chineke! you think it makes any difference to the victim whether he/she was violated by say, your uncle who is just a simple Christian or a bishop

homaticaya:

Tanks bro!
Copy and Pasting, copy and pasting, copy and pasting. Wow i could not count the number of times you said that in your words, anyways, Am so happy u said u could have answered each of those as supposed "copied and pasted" point of mine.
I would really appreciate if you can please explain each one of them, since you claim i am "copying and Pasting", lets get the explanations rolling bro.

Here we go :

- Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but with a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man's foes will be those of his own household. He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy. (Matthew 10:34-37) All this enmity from the "Prince of Peace!"

Yes Jesus was right, when you get to know Jesus and really live the word(bible) and become a true disciple of his, your life will dramatically change, thus the old is gone. So whether it's your father or brother or mother or sister or friend...Once you are a new creation, and if your parents or anyone that is completely far from Christ doesn't agree on this change that happened within you, then by no means you will tell them "You are all right, I think I should not follow Jesus anymore.." The opposite is true...So once you change, you'll company will change too...why ? Because the pure in heart cannot live with the impure in heart for so long...And that's what Jesus was emphasizing...He was showing that the matter is so serious, and if you did not really deny yourself(hating all impurities for his sake) then you don't really deserve him and you wont really know him...Thus impurities include any person...

- Woe to you, Chorazin! woe to you, Bethsaida! ...But I tell you, it shall be more tolerable on the day of judgment for Tyre and Sidon than for you. And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? You shall be brought down. (Luke 10:13) Ditto.

The WOE thingy that God is doing in here is going straightforward for the kind of people that no matter what happens in there lives, they wont repent. So it's like your knowing that these people's heart were hardened because of their ego's and prideful nature, and no matter what you tell them they will NEVER EVER repent...And God knew tha,t from now till eternity that these people wont ever change, it's a lost case already...So God brought judgement unto them on the spot & told them the truth...Nothing hurts more then the truth doesn't it ?

- And every one who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands, for my name's sake, will receive a hundred-fold, and inherit eternal life. (Matthew 19:29) By definition, Jesus is a cult leader - and a very effective one with big enticement.

This verse kinda relates to the first one, but in here it shows how really the person is blessed and will be blessed when he really follows the commands of God from his heart. & by really accepting him above all and is ready to do anything to follow him, thus God will give that person hundred-fold and so on... because God is loving, rewarding as such, and justice with his people.

- Do you think I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division; for henceforth in one house there will be five divided, three against two and two against three; they will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. (Luke 12:51-53) Phew! That's alotta "againsts"! And enemies.
If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple. (Luke 14:26) More cult brainwashing and hatred.

Same as first verse, anyone who wants to follow Christ must deny everything for his sake, to fully understand his love, no matter what it takes. And yes divisions will happen between family members and friends in the name of Love and devotion...This in other words, if you don't hate everything that is making me drift away from God and deny your own SELF(self-image, self-pride..) so that Jesus holy spirit would be filled instead of these Self thingies, then it's not gonna work...Cause Christ the HOLY, cannot live in a temple(Body) that is not holly. So that's why you need to get rid of yourself(the bad self), so that Jesus himself will reside in you.

Now I can go on and on...But it appears that your list is endless...But if you take the true mindset from these interpretations you will understand more about the things that has to do with God and his judgement...Anyways, before I go to sleep...I've noticed the same verse of the canaanite women also discussed in your post...You can already check the answer for the canaanite women in my previous post that you did ignore or did not pay attention to read ...

Takecare