I would like you guys to look at this article critically, and make constructive arguments for and against, the article is very long so I'm sharing it into two parts this is part one, part two will come subsequently, 1,Christianity is based on fear
2,Christianity preys on the innocent
3,Christianity is based on dishonesty
4,Christianity is extremely egocentric
5,Christianity breeds arrogance, a chosen-people mentality
6,Christianity breeds authoritarianism
7,Christianity is cruel
8,Christianity is anti-intellectual, anti-scientific
9,Christianity has a morbid, unhealthy preoccupation with sex
10,Christianity produces sexual misery. 1. Christianity is based on fear. While today there are liberal clergy who preach a gospel of love, they ignore the bulk of Christian teachings, not to mention the bulk of Christian history. Throughout almost its entire time on Earth, the motor driving Christianity has been—in addition to the fear of death—fear of the devil and fear of hell. One can only imagine how potent these threats seemed prior to the rise of science and rational thinking, which have largely robbed these bogeys of their power to inspire terror. But even today, the existence of the devil and hell are cardinal doctrinal tenets of almost all Christian creeds, and many fundamentalist preachers still openly resort to terrorizing their followers with lurid, sadistic portraits of the suffering of nonbelievers after death. This is not an attempt to convince through logic and reason; it is not an attempt to appeal to the better nature of individuals; rather, it is an attempt to whip the flock into line through threats, through appeals to a base part of human nature—fear and cowardice.
2. Christianity preys on the innocent. If Christian fear-mongering were directed solely at adults, it would be bad enough, but Christians routinely terrorize helpless children through grisly depictions of the endless horrors and suffering they’ll be subjected to if they don’t live good Christian lives. Christianity has darkened the early years of generation after generation of children, who have lived in terror of dying while in mortal sin and going to endless torment as a result. All of these children were trusting of adults, and they did not have the ability to analyze what they were being told; they were simply helpless victims, who, ironically, victimized following generations in the same manner that they themselves had been victimized. The nearly 2000 years of Christian terrorizing of children ranks as one of its greatest crimes. And it’s one that continues to this day.

As an example of Christianity’s cruel brainwashing of the innocent, consider this quotation from an officially approved, 19th-century Catholic children’s book (Tracts for Spiritual Reading, by Rev. J. Furniss, C.S.S.R.):


Look into this little prison. In the middle of it there is a boy, a young man. He is silent; despair is on him . . . His eyes are burning like two burning coals. Two long flames come out of his ears. His breathing is difficult. Sometimes he opens his mouth and breath of blazing fire rolls out of it. But listen! There is a sound just like that of a kettle boiling. Is it really a kettle which is boiling? No; then what is it? Hear what it is. The blood is boiling in the scalding veins of that boy. The brain is boiling and bubbling in his head. The marrow is boiling in his bones. Ask him why he is thus tormented. His answer is that when he was alive, his blood boiled to do very wicked things.
There are many similar passages in this book. Commenting on it, William Meagher, Vicar-General of Dublin, states in his Approbation:


"I have carefully read over this Little Volume for Children and have found nothing whatever in it contrary to the doctrines of the Holy Faith; but on the contrary, a great deal to charm, instruct and edify the youthful classes for whose benefit it has been written."
3. Christianity is based on dishonesty. The Christian appeal to fear, to cowardice, is an admission that the evidence supporting Christian beliefs is far from compelling. If the evidence were such that Christianity’s truth was immediately apparent to anyone who considered it, Christians—including those who wrote the Gospels—would feel no need to resort to the cheap tactic of using fear-inducing threats to inspire "belief." ("Lip service" is a more accurate term.) That the Christian clergy have been more than willing to accept such lip service (plus the dollars and obedience that go with it) in place of genuine belief, is an additional indictment of the basic dishonesty of Christianity.

How deep dishonesty runs in Christianity can be gauged by one of the most popular Christian arguments for belief in God: Pascal’s wager. This "wager" holds that it’s safer to "believe" in God (as if belief were volitional!) than not to believe, because God might exist, and if it does, it will save "believers" and condemn nonbelievers to hell after death. This is an appeal to pure cowardice. It has absolutely nothing to do with the search for truth. Instead, it’s an appeal to abandon honesty and intellectual integrity, and to pretend that lip service is the same thing as actual belief. If the patriarchal God of Christianity really exists, one wonders how it would judge the cowards and hypocrites who advance and bow to this particularly craven "wager."

4. Christianity is extremely egocentric. The deep egocentrism of Christianity is intimately tied to its reliance on fear. In addition to the fears of the devil and hell, Christianity plays on another of humankind’s most basic fears: death, the dissolution of the individual ego. Perhaps Christianity’s strongest appeal is its promise of eternal life. While there is absolutely no evidence to support this claim, most people are so terrified of death that they cling to this treacly promise insisting, like frightened children, that it must be true. Nietzsche put the matter well: "salvation of the soul—in plain words, the world revolves around me." It’s difficult to see anything spiritual in this desperate grasping at straws—this desperate grasping at the illusion of personal immortality.

Another manifestation of the extreme egotism of Christianity is the belief that God is intimately concerned with picayune aspects of, and directly intervenes in, the lives of individuals. If God, the creator and controller of the universe, is vitally concerned with your sex life, you must be pretty damned important. Many Christians take this particular form of egotism much further and actually imagine that God has a plan for them, or that God directly talks to, directs, or even does favors for them.(1) If one ignored the frequent and glaring contradictions in this supposed divine guidance, and the dead bodies sometimes left in its wake, one could almost believe that the individuals making such claims are guided by God. But one can’t ignore the contradictions in and the oftentimes horrible results of following such "divine guidance." As "Agent Mulder" put it (perhaps paraphrasing Thomas Szasz) in a 1998 X-Files episode, "When you talk to God it’s prayer, but when God talks to you it’s schizophrenia. . . . God may have his reasons, but he sure seems to employ a lot of psychotics to carry out his job orders."

In less extreme cases, the insistence that one is receiving divine guidance or special treatment from God is usually the attempt of those who feel worthless—or helpless, adrift in an uncaring universe—to feel important or cared for. This less sinister form of egotism is commonly found in the expressions of disaster survivors that "God must have had a reason for saving me" (in contrast to their less-worthy-of-life fellow disaster victims, whom God—who controls all things—killed). Again, it’s very difficult to see anything spiritual in such egocentricity.

5. Christianity breeds arrogance, a chosen-people mentality. It’s only natural that those who believe (or play act at believing) that they have a direct line to the Almighty would feel superior to others. This is so obvious that it needs little elaboration. A brief look at religious terminology confirms it. Christians have often called themselves "God’s people," "the chosen people," "the elect," "the righteous," etc., while nonbelievers have been labeled "heathens," "infidels," and "atheistic Communists" (as if atheism and Communism are intimately connected). This sets up a two-tiered division of humanity, in which "God’s people" feel superior to those who are not "God’s people."

That many competing religions with contradictory beliefs make the same claim seems not to matter at all to the members of the various sects that claim to be the only carriers of "the true faith." The carnage that results when two competing sects of "God’s people" collide—as in Ireland and Palestine—would be quite amusing but for the suffering it causes.

6. Christianity breeds authoritarianism. Given that Christians claim to have the one true faith, to have a book that is the Word of God, and (in many cases) to receive guidance directly from God, they feel little or no compunction about using force and coercion to enforce "God’s Will" (which they, of course, interpret and understand). Given that they believe (or pretend) that they’re receiving orders from the Almighty (who would cast them into hell should they disobey), it’s little wonder that they feel no reluctance, and in fact are eager, to intrude into the most personal aspects of the lives of nonbelievers. This is most obvious today in the area of sex, with Christians attempting to deny women the right to abortion and to mandate near-useless abstinence-only sex "education" in the public schools. It’s also obvious in the area of education, with Christians attempting to force biology teachers to teach their creation myth (but not those of Hindus, Native Americans, et al.) in place of (or as being equally valid as) the very well established theory of evolution. But the authoritarian tendencies of Christianity reach much further than this.

Up until well into the 20th century in the United States and other Christian countries (notably Ireland), Christian churches pressured governments into passing laws forbidding the sale and distribution of birth control devices, and they also managed to enact laws forbidding even the description of birth control devices. This assault on free speech was part and parcel of Christianity’s shameful history of attempting to suppress "indecent" and "subversive" materials (and to throw their producers in jail or burn them alive). This anti-free speech stance of Christianity dates back centuries, with the cases of Galileo Galilei and Giordano Bruno (who was burnt alive) being good illustrations of it. Perhaps the most colorful example of this intrusive Christian tendency toward censorship is the Catholic Church’s Index of Prohibited Books, which dates from the 16th century and which was abandoned only in the latter part of the 20th century—not because the church recognized it as a crime against human freedom, but because it could no longer be enforced (not that it was ever systematically enforced—that was too big a job even for the Inquisition).

Christian authoritarianism extends, however, far beyond attempts to suppress free speech; it extends even to attempts to suppress freedom of belief. In the 15th century, under Ferdinand and Isabella at about the time of Columbus’s discovery of the New World, Spain’s Jews were ordered either to convert to Christianity or to flee the country; about half chose exile, while those who remained, the "Conversos," were favorite targets of the Inquisition. A few years later, Spain’s Muslims were forced to make a similar choice.

This Christian hatred of freedom of belief—and of individual freedom in general—extends to this day. Up until the late 19th century in England, atheists who had the temerity to openly advocate their beliefs were jailed. Even today in many parts of the United States laws still exist that forbid atheists from serving on juries or from holding public office. And it’s no mystery what the driving force is behind laws against victimless "crimes" such as nudity, sodomy, fornication, cohabitation, and prostitution.

If your nonintrusive beliefs or actions are not in accord with Christian "morality," you can bet that Christians will feel completely justified—not to mention righteous—in poking their noses (often in the form of state police agencies) into your private life.

7. Christianity is cruel. Throughout its history, cruelty—both to self and others—has been one of the most prominent features of Christianity. From its very start, Christianity, with its bleak view of life, its emphasis upon sexual sin, and its almost impossible-to-meet demands for sexual "purity," encouraged guilt, penance, and self-torture. Today, this self-torture is primarily psychological, in the form of guilt arising from following (or denying, and thus obsessing over) one’s natural sexual desires. In earlier centuries, it was often physical. W.E.H. Lecky relates:


For about two centuries, the hideous maceration of the body was regarded as the highest proof of excellence. . . . The cleanliness of the body was regarded as a pollution of the soul, and the saints who were most admired had become one hideous mass of clotted filth. . . . But of all the evidences of the loathsome excesses to which this spirit was carried, the life of St. Simeon Stylites is probably the most remarkable. . . . He had bound a rope around him so that it became embedded in his flesh, which putrefied around it. A horrible stench, intolerable to the bystanders, exhaled from his body, and worms dropped from him whenever he moved, and they filled his bed. . . . For a whole year, we are told, St. Simeon stood upon one leg, the other being covered with hideous ulcers, while his biographer [St. Anthony] was commissioned to stand by his side, to pick up the worms that fell from his body, and to replace them in the sores, the saint saying to the worms, "Eat what God has given you." From every quarter pilgrims of every degree thronged to do him homage. A crowd of prelates followed him to the grave. A brilliant star is said to have shone miraculously over his pillar; the general voice of mankind pronounced him to be the highest model of a Christian saint; and several other anchorites [Christian hermits] imitated or emulated his penances.
Given that the Bible nowhere condemns torture and sometimes prescribes shockingly cruel penalties (such as burning alive), and that Christians so wholeheartedly approved of self-torture, it’s not surprising that they thought little of inflicting appallingly cruel treatment upon others. At the height of Christianity’s power and influence, hundreds of thousands of "witches" were brutally tortured and burned alive under the auspices of ecclesiastical witch finders, and the Inquisition visited similarly cruel treatment upon those accused of heresy. Henry Charles Lea records:


Two hundred wretches crowded the filthy gaol and it was requisite to forbid the rest of the Conversos [Jews intimidated into converting to Christianity] from leaving the city [Jaen, Spain] without a license. With Diego’s assistance [Diego de Algeciras, a petty criminal and kept perjurer] and the free use of torture, on both accused and witnesses, it was not difficult to obtain whatever evidence was desired. The notary of the tribunal, Antonio de Barcena, was especially successful in this. On one occasion, he locked a young girl of fifteen in a room, stripped her naked and scourged her until she consented to bear testimony against her mother. A prisoner was carried in a chair to the auto da fe with his feet burnt to the bone; he and his wife were burnt alive . . . The cells in which the unfortunates were confined in heavy chains were narrow, dark, humid, filthy and overrun with vermin, while their sequestrated property was squandered by the officials, so that they nearly starved in prison while their helpless children starved outside.
While the torture and murder of heretics and "witches" is now largely a thing of the past, Christians can still be remarkably cruel. One current example is provided by the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas. Its members picket the funerals of victims of AIDS and gay bashings, brandishing signs reading, "God Hates gays," "AIDS Cures gays," and "Thank God for AIDS." The pastor of this church reportedly once sent a "condolence" card to the bereaved mother of an AIDS victim, reading "Another Dead gay."(2) Christians are also at the forefront of those advocating vicious, life-destroying penalties for those who commit victimless "crimes," as well as being at the forefront of those who support the death penalty and those who want to make prison conditions even more barbaric than they are now.

But this should not be surprising coming from Christians, members of a religion that teaches that eternal torture is not only justified, but that the "saved" will enjoy seeing the torture of others. As St. Thomas Aquinas put it:


In order that the happiness of the saints may be more delightful and that they may give to God more copious thanks for it, they are permitted perfectly to behold the sufferings of the damned . . . The saints will rejoice in the punishment of the damned.
Thus the vision of heaven of Christianity’s greatest theologian is a vision of the sadistic enjoyment of endless torture.

8. Christianity is anti-intellectual, anti-scientific. For over a millennium Christianity arrested the development of science and scientific thinking. In Christendom, from the time of Augustine until the Renaissance, systematic investigation of the natural world was restricted to theological investigation—the interpretation of biblical passages, the gleaning of clues from the lives of the saints, etc.; there was no direct observation and interpretation of natural processes, because that was considered a useless pursuit, as all knowledge resided in scripture. The results of this are well known: scientific knowledge advanced hardly an inch in the over 1000 years from the rise of orthodox Christianity in the fourth century to the 1500s, and the populace was mired in the deepest squalor and ignorance, living in dire fear of the supernatural—believing in paranormal explanations for the most ordinary natural events. This ignorance had tragic results: it made the populace more than ready to accept witchcraft as an explanation for everything from illness to thunderstorms, and hundreds of thousands of women paid for that ignorance with their lives. One of the commonest charges against witches was that they had raised hailstorms or other weather disturbances to cause misfortune to their neighbors. In an era when supernatural explanations were readily accepted, such charges held weight—and countless innocent people died horrible deaths as a result. Another result was that the fearful populace remained very dependent upon Christianity and its clerical wise men for protection against the supernatural evils which they believed surrounded and constantly menaced them. For men and women of the Middle Ages, the walls veritably crawled with demons and witches; and their only protection from those evils was the church.

When scientific investigation into the natural world resumed in the Renaissance—after a 1000-year-plus hiatus—organized Christianity did everything it could to stamp it out. The cases of Copernicus and Galileo are particularly relevant here, because when the Catholic Church banned the Copernican theory (that the Earth revolves around the sun) and banned Galileo from teaching it, it did not consider the evidence for that theory: it was enough that it contradicted scripture. Given that the Copernican theory directly contradicted the Word of God, the Catholic hierarchy reasoned that it must be false. Protestants shared this view. John Calvin rhetorically asked, “Who will venture to place the authority of Copernicus above that of the Holy Spirit?”

More lately, the Catholic Church and the more liberal Protestant congregations have realized that fighting against science is a losing battle, and they’ve taken to claiming that there is no contradiction between science and religion. This is disingenuous at best. As long as Christian sects continue to claim as fact—without offering a shred of evidence beyond the anecdotal—that physically impossible events occurred (or are still occurring), the conflict between science and religion will remain. That many churchmen and many scientists seem content to let this conflict lie doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist.

Today, however, the conflict between religion and science is largely being played out in the area of public school biology education, with Christian fundamentalists demanding that their creation myth be taught in place of (or along with) the theory of evolution in the public schools. Their tactics rely heavily on public misunderstanding of science. They nitpick the fossil record for its gaps (hardly surprising given that we inhabit a geologically and meteorologically very active planet), while offering absurd interpretations of their own which we’re supposed to accept at face value—such as that dinosaur fossils were placed in the earth by Satan to confuse humankind, or that Noah took baby dinosaurs on the ark.

They also attempt to take advantage of public ignorance of the nature of scientific theories. In popular use, “theory” is employed as a synonym for “hypothesis,” “conjecture,” or even “wild guess,” that is, it signifies an idea with no special merit or backing. The use of the term in science is quite different. There, “theory” refers to a well-developed, logically consistent explanation of a phenomenon, and an explanation that is consistent with observed facts. This is very different than a wild guess. But fundamentalists deliberately confuse the two uses of the term in an attempt to make their religious myth appear as valid as a well-supported scientific theory.

They also attempt to confuse the issue by claiming that those nonspecialists who accept the theory of evolution have no more reason to do so than they have in accepting their religious creation myth, or even that those who accept evolution do so on “faith.” Again, this is more than a bit dishonest.

Thanks to scientific investigation, human knowledge has advanced to the point where no one can know more than a tiny fraction of the whole. Even the most knowledgeable scientists often know little beyond their specialty areas. But because of the structure of science, they (and everyone else) can feel reasonably secure in accepting the theories developed by scientists in other disciplines as the best possible current explanations of the areas of nature those disciplines cover. They (and we) can feel secure doing this because of the structure of science, and more particularly, because of the scientific method. That method basically consists of gathering as much information about a phenomenon (both in nature and in the laboratory) as possible, then developing explanations for it (hypotheses), and then testing the hypotheses to see how well they explain the observed facts, and whether or not any of those observed facts are inconsistent with the hypotheses. Those hypotheses that are inconsistent with observed facts are discarded or modified, while those that are consistent are retained, and those that survive repeated testing are often labeled “theories,” as in “the theory of relativity” and “the theory of evolution.”

This is the reason that nonspecialists are justified in accepting scientific theories outside their disciplines as the best current explanations of observed phenomena: those who developed the theories were following standard scientific practice and reasoning—and if they deviate from that, other scientists will quickly call them to task.

No matter how much fundamentalists might protest to the contrary, there is a world of difference between “faith” in scientific theories (produced using the scientific method, and subject to near-continual testing and scrutiny) and faith in the entirely unsupported myths recorded 3000 years ago by slave-holding goat herders.

Nearly 500 years ago Martin Luther, in his Table Talk, stated: “Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has.” The opposite is also true.

9. Christianity has a morbid, unhealthy preoccupation with sex. For centuries, Christianity has had an exceptionally unhealthy fixation on sex, to the exclusion of almost everything else (except power, money, and the infliction of cruelty). This stems from the numerous "thou shalt nots" relating to sex in the Bible. That the Ten Commandments contain a commandment forbidding the coveting of one’s neighbor’s wife, but do not even mention slavery, torture, or cruelty—which were abundantly common in the time the Commandments were written— speaks volumes about their writer’s preoccupation with sex (and women as property).

Today, judging from the pronouncements of many Christian leaders, one would think that "morality" consists solely of what one does in one’s bedroom. The Catholic Church is the prime example here, with its moral pronouncements rarely going beyond the matters of birth control and abortion (and with its moral emphasis seemingly entirely on those matters). Also note that the official Catholic view of sex—that it’s for the purpose of procreation only—reduces human sexual relations to those of brood animals. For more than a century the Catholic Church has also been the driving force behind efforts to prohibit access to birth control devices and information—to everyone, not just Catholics.

The Catholic Church, however, is far from alone in its sick obsession with sex. The current Christian hate campaign against homosexuals is another prominent manifestation of this perverse preoccupation. Even at this writing, condemnation of "sodomites" from church pulpits is still very, very common—with Christian clergymen wringing their hands as they piously proclaim that their words of hate have nothing to do with gay bashings and the murder of gays.

10. Christianity produces sexual misery. In addition to the misery produced by authoritarian Christian intrusions into the sex lives of non-Christians, Christianity produces great misery among its own adherents through its insistence that sex (except the very narrow variety it sanctions) is evil, against God’s law. Christianity proscribes sex between unmarried people, sex outside of marriage, homosexual relations, bestiality, (3) and even “impure” sexual thoughts. Indulging in such things can and will, in the conventional Christian view, lead straight to hell.

Given that human beings are by nature highly sexual beings, and that their urges very often do not fit into the only officially sanctioned Christian form of sexuality (monogamous, heterosexual marriage), it’s inevitable that those who attempt to follow Christian “morality” in this area are often miserable, as their strongest urges run smack dab into the wall of religious belief. This is inevitable in Christian adolescents and unmarried young people in that the only “pure” way for them to behave is celibately—in the strict Christian view, even masturbation is prohibited. Phillip Roth has well described the dilemma of the religiously/sexually repressed young in Portnoy’s Complaint as “being torn between desires that are repugnant to my conscience and a conscience repugnant to my desires.” Thus the years of adolescence and young adulthood for many Christians are poisoned by “sinful” urges, unfulfilled longings, and intense guilt (after the urges become too much to bear and are acted upon).

Even after Christian young people receive a license from church and state to have sex, they often discover that the sexual release promised by marriage is not all that it’s cracked up to be. One gathers that in marriages between those who have followed Christian rules up until marriage—that is, no sex at all—sexual ineptitude and lack of fulfillment are all too common. Even when Christian married people do have good sexual relations, the problems do not end. Sexual attractions ebb and flow, and new attractions inevitably arise. In conventional Christian relationships, one is not allowed to act on these new attractions. One is often not even permitted to admit that such attractions exist. As Sten Linnander puts it, “with traditional [Christian] morality, you have to choose between being unfaithful to yourself or to another.”

The dilemma is even worse for gay teens and young people in that Christianity never offers them release from their unrequited urges. They are simply condemned to lifelong celibacy. If they indulge their natural desires, they become “sodomites” subject not only to Earthly persecution (due to Christian-inspired laws), but to being roasted alive forever in the pit. Given the internalized homophobia Christian teachings inspire, not to mention the very real discrimination gay people face, it’s not surprising that a great many homosexually oriented Christians choose to live a lie. In most cases, this leads to lifelong personal torture, but it can have even more tragic results.

A prime example is Marshall Applewhite, “John Do,” the guru of the Heaven’s Gate religious cult. Applewhite grew up in the South in a repressive Christian fundamentalist family. Horrified by his homosexual urges, he began to think of sexuality itself as evil, and eventually underwent castration to curb his sexual urges.(4) Several of his followers took his anti-sexual teachings to heart and likewise underwent castration before, at “Do’s” direction, killing themselves.

I concur with all of the above

i think the thing is too leghty but i thing to know is this were you a christian and which religion are you practising now that you think all this you ve listed is absent not that am saying they are present in the christiandom

jagunlabi: I concur with all of the above

, thanks for your honest opinion, are u a freethinker?

Olu_t.boy:
i think the thing is too leghty but i thing to know is this were you a christian and which religion are you practising now that you think all this you ve listed is absent not that am saying they are present in the christiandom

I'm a freethinker, and I agree with all of the reasons,

I agree with the OP.


The threat of hell in christianity is a tool of fear to keep the sheep in line. Seriously, why would a loving god create such a monstrosity, a torutre chamber called hell? Seriously? Just because I dont believe the bible and I think it is wrong, I should be cast in a lake of fire?

I agree. My life has more meaning without an imaginary sky-daddy.

MacDaddy01: I agree with the OP.


The threat of hell in christianity is a tool of fear to keep the sheep in line. Seriously, why would a loving god create such a monstrosity, a torutre chamber called hell? Seriously? Just because I dont believe the bible and I think it is wrong, I should be cast in a lake of fire?

you have a point, hell is very imaginary and unreal, in my subsequent threads I'll throw more light on some very important subjects pertaining to the Christian God, and the "book of bible stories"

onetrack: I agree. My life has more meaning without an imaginary sky-daddy.

lol, "sky daddy" I swear that phrase gets to me every time,

freethinkers indeed

Very nice.
I million 'GBOZAS'!

The religion makes me 'sick'! Period.
The people who practice such a concept are not only miserable, but extremely wretched.
There is nothing absolutely desirable about living and dying like Jesus Christ. . .The Ultimate Superstitious FAILURE!!!
A role model for spiritual-DUMMIES!

Callotti: Very nice.
I million 'GBOZAS'!

The religion makes me 'sick'! Period.
The people who practice such a concept are not only miserable, but extremely wretched.
There is nothing absolutely desirable about living and dying like Jesus Christ. . .The Ultimate Superstitious FAILURE!!!
A role model for spiritual-DUMMIES!

it's always good to know that, there are rational people out there, the fable of jesus christ, very absurd, christians should learn to keep their beliefs to themselves.

Akwenuke marho: it's always good to know that, there are rational people out there, the fable of jesus christ, very absurd, christians should learn to keep their beliefs to themselves.

And freethinkers should keep their thinking to themselves

@Op yur free to say watsoever yu wish, its a free world. The Holy Bible bears so much Wisdom beyond yur understanding. No wonder yu lay all dese baseless claims, yur jus totally confused in dis lyf!

@ OP

There are ABSOLUTELY NO REASONS for a Christian to abandon Spirit-filled living!

seyibrown: @ OP

There are ABSOLUTELY NO REASONS for a Christian to abandon Spirit-filled living!

nonsense

Can you describe your spirit filed life?

seyibrown: @ OP

There are ABSOLUTELY NO REASONS for a Christian to abandon Spirit-filled living!

my dear, christianity has caused more harm to mankind than good, christianity cast mankind into the dark ages for hundreds of years, millions of people were killed in the name of jesus, scientific research was frowned upon, freethinking was considered an abomination, I can't list all of the horrors christianity has caused mankind cos it'll take the whole day for u to read.

KingMEXX: @Op yur free to say watsoever yu wish, its a free world. The Holy Bible bears so much Wisdom beyond yur understanding. No wonder yu lay all dese baseless claims, yur jus totally confused in dis lyf!

sir, I am not confused, rather I am enlighened, I am illuminated, I was blind but now I can see, the reason freethinkers attack christianity a lot is because christianity is a very intolerant religion, christians believe they are the only people who are on the true path, and they believe every other religion is nonsense, u don't see atheists attacking budhism or hinduism, cos these religions are very tolerant, they don't castiagate adherents of other beliefs, so mr KING, if u say I'm confused I like it, cos I'm confused in a wise logical way, but u my friend, u are ,,,,,,,,,

Akwenuke marho: sir, I am not confused, rather I am enlighened, I am illuminated, I was blind but now I can see, the reason freethinkers attack christianity a lot is because christianity is a very intolerant religion, christians believe they are the only people who are on the true path, and they believe every other religion is nonsense, u don't see atheists attacking budhism or hinduism, cos these religions are very tolerant, they don't castiagate adherents of other beliefs, so mr KING, if u say I'm confused I like it, cos I'm confused in a wise logical way, but u my friend, u are ,,,,,,,,,

My dear friend, truth be told dat every religion claims to be right even atheism and so dnt bring in d blame game here. Yu atheists have been on d neck of Christians not becos of yur excuse stated above buh becos yu believ dat Christians have seen d light and are followin d right part. If yu feel its a lie, why arent yu atheists obsessed wit Islam or Hinduism d way yur obsessed wit Christianity? Whyt haven't yu atheists attacked dose religions d way yu've attacked Christians?? It is obvious dat yu atheists were former Christians who deviated, and nw are lookin for yur own members. Yu atheists tink dat convertin as many ppl to your belief wuld make such beliefs ryt and just? Am sorry my friend, it doesnt work like dat. We are deep rooted to our Religion, and on d last day we wuld knw who ws right or wrong. God bless you my friend!

MacDaddy01: I agree with the OP.


The threat of hell in christianity is a tool of fear to keep the sheep in line. Seriously, why would a loving god create such a monstrosity, a torutre chamber called hell? Seriously? Just because I dont believe the bible and I think it is wrong, I should be cast in a lake of fire?

Am not here to throw tantrums at each oda, i jus want yu to ansa dese questions for me, usin d ATHEIST's belief.
If yu believe dat dere is no God, no ''Sky daddy'' as one stated, how do yu explain
1...Earths rotation on its axis, why hasnt it 'fallen' off??
2...d beginning of a river/Ocean and its end..how did it all start
3...Origin of man and its existence. How did we start existin? Who gave birth to d 1st person dat existed on dis world?
4....How a foetus forms and develops inside d womb?
5....Sleep! D phenomenom behind Sleep and dreams.....

Explain all dese tinx and tell me if durin d explanation yu would not include a Supernatural Being? Am waitin

Typical case of an empty barrel making the loudest noise.

We need Part 2 please.
I have waited patiently enough.
Haba!!!

Can we celebrate "S-I-Nday with Part 2 pweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze?

i am Pagan traditionalist so i too am free-thinker. i agree with all that OP said.

lol @ "part 1". just imagine how many books we can write on xtian attorcities and failures.

@KingMEXX....You are on point!
This is the question for Atheists....Do you in your heart of hearts and sincerely think that there is no God?
I am a Scientist and I believe there is God, and not only that I am a Christian....

There are a lot of stories in the Christian history that showed some level of wickedness as found in Catholic history about some Popes and a lot of things....In as much as we cannot deny the fact that Catholism started the modern day christianity after the Apostles' era as a result of Roman additions to what Christianity really was initially, it is not to say that Catholism represents Christianity as we all know today.

However, I want to tell you that all what you have talked about is not Christianity.... From the tone of your Post, you believe in God but you are against Christianity and not other religions. The reason has been well spelt out by KingMEXX anyway....

At least as an African, you can't say there is nothing Spiritual about life....that is the simple truth....

KingMEXX: My dear friend, truth be told dat every religion claims to be right even atheism and so dnt bring in d blame game here. Yu atheists have been on d neck of Christians not becos of yur excuse stated above buh becos yu believ dat Christians have seen d light and are followin d right part. If yu feel its a lie, why arent yu atheists obsessed wit Islam or Hinduism d way yur obsessed wit Christianity? Whyt haven't yu atheists attacked dose religions d way yu've attacked Christians?? It is obvious dat yu atheists were former Christians who deviated, and nw are lookin for yur own members. Yu atheists tink dat convertin as many ppl to your belief wuld make such beliefs ryt and just? Am sorry my friend, it doesnt work like dat. We are deep rooted to our Religion, and on d last day we wuld knw who ws right or wrong. God bless you my friend!

Atheists have debated both islam and christianity.


Dont be ignorant.

No person or religion holds the copyright on morality and goodness.

KingMEXX: Am not here to throw tantrums at each oda, i jus want yu to ansa dese questions for me, usin d ATHEIST's belief.
If yu believe dat dere is no God, no ''Sky daddy'' as one stated, how do yu explain
1...Earths rotation on its axis, why hasnt it 'fallen' off??
2...d beginning of a river/Ocean and its end..how did it all start
3...Origin of man and its existence. How did we start existin? Who gave birth to d 1st person dat existed on dis world?
4....How a foetus forms and develops inside d womb?
5....Sleep! D phenomenom behind Sleep and dreams.....

Explain all dese tinx and tell me if durin d explanation yu would not include a Supernatural Being? Am waitin

Ignorance.Simple google can answer your questions


1) Fallen into where? The earths gravity keeps it moving along space time. The earth is not suspended over nothing. It implies that outer space is nothing, which is wrong.

2) Big bang? Formation of solar systems? Gases and comets?

3) Really?

4 Really?


5) Really?




You are quite proud of your ignorance. Read about the big bang, evolution and the formation of solar systems and get back to me.

KingMEXX: Am not here to throw tantrums at each oda, i jus want yu to ansa dese questions for me, usin d ATHEIST's belief.
If yu believe dat dere is no God, no ''Sky daddy'' as one stated, how do yu explain
1...Earths rotation on its axis, why hasnt it 'fallen' off??
2...d beginning of a river/Ocean and its end..how did it all start
3...Origin of man and its existence. How did we start existin? Who gave birth to d 1st person dat existed on dis world?
4....How a foetus forms and develops inside d womb?
5....Sleep! D phenomenom behind Sleep and dreams.....

Explain all dese tinx and tell me if durin d explanation yu would not include a Supernatural Being? Am waitin

*deep sigh*

Posts like this saddens me. Deeply.

MacDaddy01:

The earth is not suspended over nothing. It implies that outer space is nothing, which is wrong.

^^^
am interested in this, can you shade more?

Please, to aide your answer, what substance is the utter space made of?

Am waiting.
Thanks and Peace.

MacDaddy01:

Ignorance.Simple google can answer your questions


1) Fallen into where? The earths gravity keeps it moving along space time. The earth is not suspended over nothing. It implies that outer space is nothing, which is wrong.

2) Big bang? Formation of solar systems? Gases and comets?

3) Really?

4 Really?


5) Really?




You are quite proud of your ignorance. Read about the big bang, evolution and the formation of solar systems and get back to me.

Common, yu can do better than dis. Why not continue answering questions 3 to d end huh?? Wats d matter, Cat cut yur tongue?? Why run away from those questions abi google dosent know d ansa?? Return bak to me wen yu figure out d ansas

Avicenna:

*deep sigh*

Posts like this saddens me. Deeply.

Why wont they sadden yu, because yu knw yur belief cant answer such questions or can yu gv it a shot at? Common, dnt hide yur knowledge only for yurself kikiki

PAGAN 9JA:
i am Pagan traditionalist so i too am free-thinker. i agree with all that OP said.

lol @ "part 1". just imagine how many books we can write on xtian attorcities and failures.

No religion is devoid of atrocities and failures ok?? Even yur paganism is not free of such allegations

truthislight:

^^^
am interested in this, can you shade more?

Please, to aide your answer, what substance is the utter space made of?

Am waiting.
Thanks and Peace.

Spacetime?




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime