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Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by Horus(m): 9:54pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
Census in Nigeria to a large extent dictates who really holds power. Census results are as sensitive as election results in Nigeria and with success recorded in the April 2011 polls as a result of computerization; the quest for computerized and credible systems in Nigeria has been intense. Since Independence, Nigeria has conducted population censuses. Such censuses have been marred by controversies like inaccuracies, data manipulation and inflation of results. As sophisticated technology continues to impact on organizations and countries, a growing need for efficient, flexible and cost effective census system becomes paramount. The final solution thus lies in employing the services of a computerized census system in Nigeria. |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by Nobody: 9:59pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
Nna ehn, na wa o. The most annoying part of this is that the npc will try to make a mockery of this discovery and sweep it aside. |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by gigz31: 10:09pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
The problem with nigeria is that nigeria does not know its problem(s). |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by otokx(m): 10:09pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
Good job poster |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by rusep: 10:13pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
Standing5: Also in the most southern Nigeria cities one can easily notice the rise in no. of new generation of northerners now migrating there. You will find them trading and driving okadas, yet there is no guaranty that these movements will reflect in the next census exercise. don't also forget the Boko Haram effect. I honestly agreed with you but it is unfortunate you hide the fact that it is the Northerners that marry early, have more than one wife and they don’t practice family planning. The problem of an average Southerner is hypocrisy that why the Western World even though most of you accepted their religion didn’t trust. I am sorry if i hurt you but that is the fact. |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by seyibrown(f): 10:23pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
rusep: The bolded is more reason why it is totally ridiculous that the percentages have been consistent for all states in the study. Death, birth and migration rates would have affected the percentages. The Northern census figures were falsified right from the start and the trend is still being upheld by the traitors who have been continuosly recycled in our leadership. A proper census is one of the steps needed to move Nigeria forward. How do you budget and provide for a nation correctly when the statistics are totally wrong? No wonder our leaders keep behaving as if this country is a farce; they know it is a farce! We are one day closer to the end of this madness! 1 Like |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by Nobody: 10:26pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
I laughed really hard. That's Nigeria for you. It's a mere extrapolation and nothing more. The 1963 formula was adopted when Awolowo systematically demolished the nonsense called 1973 figures. Since then, check 1991, it's all the same formula. Just create a National ID for everyone linked to all essential stuff like phone number, bank account number, driver licence, then the fraud is over. From the time it was first conducted in 1931, census enumeration in Nigeria has consistently produced disputable result.The 1931 enumeration made no pretence at all to comprehensive count or acccuracy. At best, the whole exercise was an intelligent gestimate, in-so-far as the Southern part of the country was concerned. |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by sheyguy: 10:35pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
rusep:The average northerner marries early, does less of family planning! Yes, i agree, but they also have higher child-birth death, and on the average produce less children. One northern male married to four wives on the average will have atmost 4 kids from each wife. That leaves us with 5 parents and 16 children unlike the south where 2 parents on the average will have 5 children between them. Work out the ratios and see what you get for the north vs south. The result is far from the general public assumption. The only thing the north has going for them is their large landmass. Tarring roads will cost more in each northern state than in a southern state. That's all. 1 Like |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by sheyguy: 10:42pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
Prof Corruption: I laughed really hard. That's Nigeria for you. It's a mere extrapolation and nothing more. The 1963 formula was adopted when Awolowo systematically demolished the nonsense called 1973 figures. Since then, check 1991, it's all the same formula.Add voter card registration and satelite monitoring system to the bold and the north only hope will be the manipulation of their sharia system to subvent the above stated. [/quote] 1 Like |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by nitlad: 10:45pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
Interesting read! I repeat my call for a SOVEREIGN NATIONAL CONFERENCE. |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by sheyguy: 10:46pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
seyibrown:+10 |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by ektbear: 10:48pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
It isn't really the # of wives you marry that is important. It is female fertility...# of children a woman has over her lifetime. After all, if a northern man has 4 wives, that means that his brothers are going without (well, temporarily ignoring a minor effect that I don't think is so relevant). 1 Like |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by ITbomb(m): 10:55pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
A committee would be set up to look into the census matter |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by sheyguy: 11:00pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
ekt_bear: It isn't really the # of wives you marry that is important. It is female fertility...# of children a woman has over her lifetime.Without wives can female children be concieved under a well structured family cycle system? Its like eggs and chickens. We are probably both right and both wrong depending on which one existed first - Adam and Eve story. 1 Like |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by nitlad: 11:05pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
Prof Corruption: THIS brings me to the 1973Quite a revealing exposé this is. This goes a long way to show that this fraud has been consistent and going on unabated for donkey years. Sometimes I wonder where OBJ's loyalty lies. A fraud of this magnitude is going on against your own people and you couldnt do anything to buck the ugly trend. Shame on you Baba Iyabo. |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by ektbear: 11:06pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
sheyguy: Without wives can female children be concieved under a well structured family cycle system? Its like eggs and chickens. We are probably both right and both wrong depending on which one existed first - Adam and Eve story. No, think about it this way. On Island 1 (northern nigeria), there are 100 women and 100 men. But the most powerful man takes all the women for himself. So 99 guys are without women. On Island 2 (southern Nigeria), every man gets 1 woman each. Would we then say that Island 1 will necessarily have a higher population growth rate than Island 2? Of course not...the size of the second generation of people on both Island 1 and Island 2 is purely the number of kids each woman has. This is pretty much just math. The fact that a woman shares her husband doesn't necessarily mean that her fertility will increase. At least, this isn't something one should assume...you'd need some sort of additional evidence to back it up. Anyway, my point is, whether in Northern Nigeria they marry 4 wives or only 1, it doesn't increase the number of women available (at least, assuming women aren't being imported into Northern Nigeria or something en masse.) 1 Like |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by Standing5(m): 11:22pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
ekt_bear:There is good probability that the man with ~100 wives will get fewer kids from each wife, especially in a society that see women as properties and restricts them from certain exposing task like farming and hunting. The man's best bet to sustaining his biological seed will be the amount of male offspring available to fend and provide for the females. The southern family and societal values still comes out top here. |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by andyanders: 11:41pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
" CHOP AND CLEAN MOUTH" |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by andyanders: 11:41pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
This country is " CHOP AND CLEAN MOUTH" You just dey disturb yourself because the cabal cannot change as they have no conscience.They all are evil. |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by vanbonattel: 11:43pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
Nobody is talking about the cattle and fowls counted in 1963 as humans? |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by vanbonattel: 11:44pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
andyanders: This country is " CHOP AND CLEAN MOUTH" You just dey disturb yourself because the cabal cannot change as they have no conscience.They all are evil. You will not be different if you get there so stop crying foul, your type will seize peoples salary for the next 6 months before leaving office. |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by andyanders: 11:56pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
van bonattel: That will be better Mr. do well |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by vanbonattel: 12:01am On Oct 30, 2012 |
the whole nation was built on a lie, the foundation was very faulty, built with fake materials, repaired with damaged items and still suffering structural abuse. my surprise is, why has this country not fallen apart till now? |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by tomakint: 12:05am On Oct 30, 2012 |
@ OP this is a very revealing piece, I am impressed this is coming up at a critical stage in d history of this country.Right from the 1962 census till the last in 2006 it has been fraudulent figures galore! I hope the forthcoming one in 2015 wil be more transparent to checkmate the British winning formula for the Northern hegemony. I wonder how Ibadan in the 60s could be more than Kano and all of a sudden in the 90s and now (2012)Kano is more and ridiculously than Lagos, no thanks to Obj on that |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by Abagworo(m): 12:36am On Oct 30, 2012 |
tomakint: @ OP this is a very revealing piece, I am impressed this is coming up at a critical stage in d history of this country.Right from the 1962 census till the last in 2006 it has been fraudulent figures galore! I hope the forthcoming one in 2015 wil be more transparent to checkmate the British winning formula for the Northern hegemony. I wonder how Ibadan in the 60s could be more than Kano and all of a sudden in the 90s and now (2012)Kano is more and ridiculously than Lagos, no thanks to Obj on that Kano and Lagos have grown much faster than Ibadan as a result of many factors. Watch out for Abuja and Port Harcourt. |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by cjrane: 12:40am On Oct 30, 2012 |
Isn't this a waste of time? Who doesn't know the census figure, and other so called "statistics" is fake in Nigeria? Even the Kano 1991 census figure you mentioned was Kano + Jigawa state included. Now the new Kano still has the same population or even more than Lagos state.While Jigawa has another extra 5 million people as its population!!! Where did the extra 5 million come from? That means the population growth in the old Kano state was about 100% in less than 10 years! Which qualifies to enter the guiness book of records. Infact, if Jigawa had not been created out from Kano state, the present population of kano state will now officially be 16 million people! Extra 7 million people more than Lagos! Tell me,isn't the figure laughable? 1 Like |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by vanbonattel: 12:42am On Oct 30, 2012 |
cjrane: Isn't this a waste of time? Who doesn't know the census figure, and other so called "statistics" is fake in Nigeria? I dey laugh o |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by jhydebaba(m): 12:42am On Oct 30, 2012 |
Nigeria is just a Jokeland. |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by vanbonattel: 12:44am On Oct 30, 2012 |
jhydebaba: Nigeria is just a Jokeland. a circus show really |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by Abagworo(m): 12:48am On Oct 30, 2012 |
cjrane: Isn't this a waste of time? Who doesn't know the census figure, and other so called "statistics" is fake in Nigeria? All the results were mere fabrications constructed by UN and given to FG for defrauding the world. We are not up to 140million. Lagos is near accurate while Kano State should be around 7million. Oyo, Rivers, Anambra, Kaduna, Delta and Imo are next on the line in that order with somewhere between 3 to 5 million. |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by vanbonattel: 12:54am On Oct 30, 2012 |
Abagworo: How do you know its the UN and not some powerful ppl in govt just twisting figures to please other powerful ppl out of govt? the first day i heard kano was more populous than lagos, I burst out crying with laughter Lagos, where Igbo people troop to start business while the population keep rising |
Re: The Scandal Of Census Figures by Abagworo(m): 1:06am On Oct 30, 2012 |
van bonattel: Abeg no burst o. Kano has more non-Nigerians migrating there than Lagos. These people are mainly from Chad, Senegal, Mali, Niger and Burkinafaso and they can't speak English and hence stay put in Kano or the North. Kano is however not as populous as Lagos. I believe that a lot of Nigeria's policies are influenced by the UN, World Bank and IMF including elections and census. Even our oil production and refineries. I try as much to avoid this conspiracy theory but it keeps staring at me in the face. |
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