Bolan123: Nigerian military for years were dominated by one tribe with commanders who lack the capacity and understanding of modern military equipment and strategy, which can be attributed to their literacy level before they were recruited into the force. The report is not far from the truth. How can somebody who doesn't understand English language use English equipment?

wizkid,we no nigerian army lack a lot of knowledge and logistics in military training couple with poorly equip, is just that Nigerian corrupt elites and politicians use this poorly equip soldiers to rig vote and intimidate poor people

97th to comment.
Stories like this always make me mad. Telling me that N.A lacks the basic training to fight in the frontline is an insult.
Ok, since we are not capable, I think they should allowed us to rest.
Manning check point and loading trucks is an insults to us as a people( i know some Nigerians are too blind to see).
On a good note, I think the number of widows and orphans that will have increase as a result of this encounter will be reduce.

Even without being train, Nigerians ontheir own can still fight and defeat the Malian Islamist. Remember:
1. Mend
2. BH
3. During the Afgan war, Nigerian were discovered to be engaging the Americans severely and now the US army is seeking for Nigerians to join their arm forces.
This news is false, unreliable, a product of malice and is from the sponsors of the Malian Islamist who are scare of the Nig Army.

ThREAD CLOSED!

They may have a point. Innit, Nigeria army should be in a state to defeat the UK and not waste their time and precious resources on common Mali.

Ricky_Ross:

Very well said. And don't be surprised Nigerians will celebrate over this stupid report coz they are their own worst enemies. They like to hear bad news about Nigeria.

sometimes some fellows at this forum needs there brain to be removed and be re twikkd. How could they easily believe those trash. Nigerian army is a force to be feared in Africa. Ask Major General Maxwell Khobe of the blessed memory. His type still abound in our army. Why was Lungi international Airport at Freetown renamed Khobe international Airport. Some folks needs to go back to history class.

All I can say is that the state of mind of an average Nigerian is pathetic. Nigerians have a disturbingly low self esteem I just don't know how some people will believe such a stupid report.

We need to encourage our people to read quality articles, we have free access to tons of articles free of charge on the internet but what our people do with their bis monthly is to engage in stupid chats, look for new girls/guys to Bleep and be hunting opposite sex on fcbk n other social media. All these only degrade their IQ.

The Nigerian Army is rated the second best in combat only to the Ukrainian army in the world. It is true they may not have the sophisticated kits the uk army display in afghanistan nor the advanced military hardware but they have (and are still) achieved so much with the little they have. The rating was arrived @ as a result of the performance of our military men in various crisis points around the world e.g during the Israel lebanon war of 2006 our soldiers provide cover for other foreign UN troops under fire from unidentified hostile forces during the brief war, our military men have reduced the murder rate of the Sudan sponsored militias killing tribal Africans in Dafur by more than 90% to an extent that BBC n CNN don't have much bad new to report from that region anymore, let's leave the west african region out for now.

Now it is true that the army can perform better had corruption not been the norm in our country however these guys have shed sweat n blood to keep peace around the world.

Try and read articles on the net. Use google and teach urself. It is not everything on stupid racist writes that is true.

Tnx

4 Play:

http://saharareporters.com/article/budget-2012-5-defence-spending-nasir-ahmad-el-rufai

El Rufai wrote the above illuminating article at the start of the year. It's clear they need to downsize staff focusing on non-military staff to free up money to be spent on training and equipment. There should be an audit of the budget as it's clear wide scale looting is going on.

I read El-Rufai's highly researched article and truth be told. they very vital ingredients of national concern from which any good national leadership should borrow. El-Rufai did not sit on thee side and merely criticized, he suggested practical solutions which government should not be too arrogant to pick a few points from.
Back to Nigerian Army, it stinks is sufficient as summary. The glorious days of Abacha and Nigeria's regional military prowess is gone forever. Obasanjo's over-zealousness to exclusively keep power within his precincts killed our military! Again Obasanjo adds a feather to his already over-crowded crown.

seunfly: Are Nigerians self esteem so low to that extent that somebody somewhere wrote an unverified negative report about you and you believed it instantly without thinking twice. Well US ARMY that is well trained enter somalia and could not do anything however Nigeria army enter serialone and capture it within a week.
Although am not in support of fighting any war, but they that are well trained what peace have they brought into the world.

can you point out one lie in that article, that article just repeated what we all already know unless you dont reside in nigeria.

Frank-C:
It is so unfortunate that in this age and time, a normal human beign will believe this 'report'. When it come to peace keeping operations and ground troop capability, Nigerian troops are among the best in WORLD, not even Africa.
Take it or leave it, this story is planted to drag our men into Northern Mali quicker than Nigeria military strategists have planned. UK is a member of the UN security council, I need to hear the exploits of their men in NATO backed operations. I am not interested in 'what they did with the Americans'

if raping women in those countries and producing over 300 thousand bastards in liberia alone is what you call peace keeping then something is wrong with you. you cant even keep peace in your own country.

Work on your self esteem

bashr8: can you point out one lie in that article, that article just repeated what we all already know unless you dont reside in nigeria.

Now we know why government keeps capitulating to insurgents in the country ...it should also be clear to all that Nigeria will eventually break up because the so-called federal might so often used to quell rebellion is whittling!

How many more years to go?

bashr8: can you point out one lie in that article, that article just repeated what we all already know unless you dont reside in nigeria.

what you "already know" is the falsehood we choose to believe even though there are indications to prove the opposite.

bashr8: if raping women in those countries and producing over 300 thousand bastards in liberia alone is what you call peace keeping then something is wrong with you. you cant even keep peace in your own country.

america fathered so many children in vietnam, iraq and afghanistan. Yet i know you wont call them names like you call NA.

ACM10: They are not far from the truth. The
following are evidence in support of their
claim that Nigerian forces are incapable
of mounting offence operation or doing
basic military manoeuvres;



2. Boko haram menance is still ongoing in
the northern region. Soldiers who were
sent to the region are unable to exert
control over the situation. All evidence
suggests that the crisis is spreading to
other parts of the northern region.

So the British tabloid observation is in
sync with the events on the ground. We don't have to play ostrich.

u are one of d saboteurs we're managing with in dis country,so d jtf is not trying?arm urself with a gun and go to to d north(preferably maiduguri)nd face dem urself,id1ot,f00lish guy

ACM10: They are not far from the truth. The
following are evidence in support of their
claim that Nigerian forces are incapable
of mounting offence operation or doing
basic military manoeuvres;



2. Boko haram menance is still ongoing in
the northern region. Soldiers who were
sent to the region are unable to exert
control over the situation. All evidence
suggests that the crisis is spreading to
other parts of the northern region.

So the British tabloid observation is in
sync with the events on the ground. We don't have to play ostrich.

u are one of d saboteurs we're managing with in dis country,so d jtf is not trying?arm urself with a gun and go to to d north(preferably maiduguri)nd face dem urself,id1ot

i dont know why people continue to call on nigeria if they say we are not capable of anything. Why dont you go and call ghana who nigerians ignorantly say its economy is bigger than ours. The same country people say is better than us all round. Why dont they call on SA who is more technologically advanced. We continue to help people yet the only thank you we get is contempt and hatred. Apart from Uganda and Burundi who are just begining to be very active on the continents issues, who has done as much as we have done in nigeria.

4 Play: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/05/nigerian-army-mali-mission-delayed?INTCMP=SRCH



The positive side of this story is that the Nigerian Army is capable of manning checkpoints and loading trucks. The Govt has to explain how our ever increasing defence budget is utilised.

nd yet sm pepl wil cm here nd argue 2 high heavns dat nija hs d best army in d world.hahahaha best 4 cnlectng roger

okpara ugo:


Nigerian army can conquer ground troops anywhere in Africa.
Do you think the somalian pirates are more dangerous than boko haram I respect the Nigerian army unless you havent gotten close to them. Though there may still be indiscipline, they get the job done fast.

please google up Al shabab,you are lost my broda,if you had been following the news for the past 20yrs you will know Al shabab is far more experienced,armed,funded,and have more fighters than our own boko boiz

A silly article written by a Ghanaian journalist called Afua Hirsh , this topic has already been discoursed extensively at Nigerians only defence blog with over a million hits.

http://beegeagle./2012/11/06/nigerian-armys-mali-mission-stalls-amid-doubts-in-can-fight-ghanaian-writer-on-a-british-tabloid/

Please follow the link and join us.

@ 360command...slowpoke..hehehe...guess u have to resort to dat....i have summarized ur points...
1..nigerian army is superior to the american army....
2...the american ground forces are useless...
3...the fighting in monrovia was more intense dan any fought by us troops...
4..u get classified millitary information from ur millitary pals...
I cant argue with u anymore...U WIN...

The funny part of all this is that the Nigerian military trains a lot of these smaller nations, including Ghana. Go to the National Defence University/War College, check out the talents we have there, and you'll instantly beam with instant pride. We're not talking about officers that lead in their various fields and corps (infantry, armoured, intelligence, surface warfare, engineering), but also combat-hardened soldiers. Nigerian officers are used as exchange instructors in countries like little Ghana, and even Pakistan.

Officers like former CAS AVM Alpha flew covert supply sorties using NAF C-130s for Zimbabwean ZANU-PF during the Rhodesian war. Former Air Marshal Petrini was the best student in his flying class. Former CDS Air Marshal Paul Dike (fyne guy) lead successful combat sorties in Sierre Leone. The same ECOMOG Air Task Group was responsible for a lot of success, including successfully repelling RUF forces when Freetown nearly. The current Chief of Army Ihejirika was among the top 3 graduating student from the prestigious War College, right after RTD Admiral Francis Okon (best graduating student and former Flag Officer Commanding-Eastern Naval Command). Then you have Generals Khobe and Malu who successfully trashed the ruthless RUF force in Sierre Leone.

There are lots of untold stories of heroism in the Armed Forces, from a handle full of soldiers who successfully held a hotel in freetown against a numerically superior enemy (RUF) armed with heavy machine guns and rpgs. Their feat allowed US special forces extract foreign diplomats held up in the very same hotel. Also, some of the successes recorded against Niger-Delta militant groups are also as a result of bright officers from the relatively quiet Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) whose actions would make some at DSS/SSS blush.

solbil: america fathered so many children in vietnam, iraq and afghanistan. Yet i know you wont call them names like you call NA.

please tell dem again. I read dat post of someone talking about our military molesting people but they have failed to ignore that US did a lot to the vietnamese .people just despise the african pride and tend to reason that the westerners are the glorious ones. I condemn the molesting act by our military but there people who writes silly things to discredit our military entirely.

Gnosticmovement:
hahaha...dat 4hours statement is true o...i don dey reason am since..dem dey shoot for like 8 hours ,killing 2 hostiles and 14 civillians...nigerian army my foot...

What were these ur innocent civilians doing in a hostile area for 8hrs of shooting?
Fishbrain, get it into ur skull dat Boko no get uniform. So whenever there's a shoot out like that, what u do is to try and leave the vicinity.

ocelot2006: The funny part of all this is that the Nigerian military trains a lot of these smaller nations, including Ghana. Go to the National Defence University/War College, check out the talents we have there, and you'll instantly beam with instant pride. We're not talking about officers that lead in their various fields and corps (infantry, armoured, intelligence, surface warfare, engineering), but also combat-hardened soldiers. Nigerian officers are used as exchange instructors in countries like little Ghana, and even Pakistan.

Officers like former CAS AVM Alpha flew covert supply sorties using NAF C-130s for Zimbabwean ZANU-PF during the Rhodesian war. Former Air Marshal Petrini was the best student in his flying class. Former CDS Air Marshal Paul Dike (fyne guy) lead successful combat sorties in Sierre Leone. The same ECOMOG Air Task Group was responsible for a lot of success, including successfully repelling RUF forces when Freetown nearly. The current Chief of Army Ihejirika was among the top 3 graduating student from the prestigious War College, right after RTD Admiral Francis Okon (best graduating student and former Flag Officer Commanding-Eastern Naval Command). Then you have Generals Khobe and Malu who successfully trashed the ruthless RUF force in Sierre Leone.

There are lots of untold stories of heroism in the Armed Forces, from a handle full of soldiers who successfully held a hotel in freetown against a numerically superior enemy (RUF) armed with heavy machine guns and rpgs. Their feat allowed US special forces extract foreign diplomats held up in the very same hotel. Also, some of the successes recorded against Niger-Delta militant groups are also as a result of bright officers from the relatively quiet Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) whose actions would make some at DSS/SSS blush.

massacaring d villagers @ odi during d mend struggle was brilliant abi.....smh @ u all who dnt wanna face d truth..the article was kinda bad , but lets face it....small truth dey d story

ACM10: They are not far from the truth. The
following are evidence in support of their
claim that Nigerian forces are incapable
of mounting offence operation or doing
basic military manoeuvres;

1. They were unable to subdue Nigerdelta
militants. They resorted to the massacre of
civilian populations to instill fear in the
populace. It was the politicians who were
able to calm the situation with amnesty
programme.

2. Boko haram menance is still ongoing in
the northern region. Soldiers who were
sent to the region are unable to exert
control over the situation. All evidence
suggests that the crisis is spreading to
other parts of the northern region.

So the British tabloid observation is in
sync with the events on the ground. We don't have to play ostrich.

Somebody speaking sense and making a point

adelss4u: All I can say is that the state of mind of an average Nigerian is pathetic. Nigerians have a disturbingly low self esteem I just don't know how some people will believe such a stupid report.

We need to encourage our people to read quality articles, we have free access to tons of articles free of charge on the internet but what our people do with their bis monthly is to engage in stupid chats, look for new girls/guys to Bleep and be hunting opposite sex on fcbk n other social media. All these only degrade their IQ.

The Nigerian Army is rated the second best in combat only to the Ukrainian army in the world. It is true they may not have the sophisticated kits the uk army display in afghanistan nor the advanced military hardware but they have (and are still) achieved so much with the little they have. The rating was arrived @ as a result of the performance of our military men in various crisis points around the world e.g during the Israel lebanon war of 2006 our soldiers provide cover for other foreign UN troops under fire from unidentified hostile forces during the brief war, our military men have reduced the murder rate of the Sudan sponsored militias killing tribal Africans in Dafur by more than 90% to an extent that BBC n CNN don't have much bad new to report from that region anymore, let's leave the west african region out for now.

Now it is true that the army can perform better had corruption not been the norm in our country however these guys have shed sweat n blood to keep peace around the world.

Try and read articles on the net. Use google and teach urself. It is not everything on stupid racist writes that is true.

Tnx

Did you believe yourself?

Le Stylo:

I read El-Rufai's highly researched article and truth be told. they very vital ingredients of national concern from which any good national leadership should borrow. El-Rufai did not sit on thee side and merely criticized, he suggested practical solutions which government should not be too arrogant to pick a few points from.
Back to Nigerian Army, it stinks is sufficient as summary. The glorious days of Abacha and Nigeria's regional military prowess is gone forever. Obasanjo's over-zealousness to exclusively keep power within his precincts killed our military! Again Obasanjo adds a feather to his already over-crowded crown.

El-Rufai may be one smart cookie, but he doesn't know JACK about the military.

And did you just mention that IBB and Abacha's reign were the glory days of the military?!
Fa fa fa....fowl!!!

It was exactly during their rule that the military suffered the WORST neglect. IBB practically grounded our airforce and destroyed our airpower. And Abacha? That thief and Bamaiyi either looted the funds meant for the military or bought substandard equipments like helmets that can't even stop frags or a 9mm bullet. Ballistic vests or even older flak vests were not in our inventory. Yet our military performed remarkably well in combat theatres at Liberia, Sierre Leone and Bakassi.

If there's one person we should thank for re-instilling professionalism and high moral in the military, it is Olusegun Obasanjo and Our then Minister of Defence, Theophilus Danjuma. It was during Sege's rule that the military focused on their primary. It was also during his tenure the all defective platforms for repaired, major combat excercises were recommenced, and military facilities. Kudos should also be given to the late Yaradua and GEJ who revamped our intelligence services.

In all, we still have a long way to go, but the state of the Nigerian Armed Forces is way better than what it was in the past.

dadicvila: please google up Al shabab,you are lost my broda,if you had been following the news for the past 20yrs you will know Al shabab is far more experienced,armed,funded,and have more fighters than our own boko boiz

boko haram has been responsible 4 all suicide bombings in africa dis year,where is al shabaab

Madawaki01: u are one of d saboteurs we're managing with in dis country,so d jtf is not trying?arm urself with a gun and go to to d north(preferably maiduguri)nd face dem urself,id1ot,f00lish guy

In essence, we are saying the same thing. Since soldiers cannot do their job in Nigeria's flashpoint. They expect civilians to take extra measures to protect themselves from the Boko haram onslaught. Thereby agreeing with the article you are labouring to castigate. Sorry dear, truth hurts.

Www.beegeagle.

Gnosticmovement: @ 360command...slowpoke..hehehe...guess u have to resort to dat....i have summarized ur points...
1..nigerian army is superior to the american army....
2...the american ground forces are useless...
3...the fighting in monrovia was more intense dan any fought by us troops...
4..u get classified millitary information from ur millitary pals...
I cant argue with u anymore...U WIN...

hehehehehe

Omo_Tier1:
Ignorance is a disease! Go get some education about Nigeria Army before coming here to spew rubbish. A good as the British Army is, were they able to check mate the Irish dissidents Republican? I have a close relative who was trained by the Nigerian Air Force and now He is with the British Army and each time I get to talk to him, He is of the opinion that Advanced equipment is our main problem and that in terms of training on Warfare, intelligence etc, the training He got in Nigeria is of no lower standard than what He is getting from the British Army.

We know UK arms export is falling and we know how good the British press are in the hands of corrupt arms manufacturers. I would take this report as part of the junk journalism that is currently being exposed in the UK!

You are a slowpoke .. Do U know more about the Nigerian Army than me? I come from a family that has rich history in the Nigerian Army .. There is know portion of NA history for now that is not replete with the bravery and toil of my family members .. And I have had my fair share too fool. So U think our Army is what it was in 1984 before the downward spiral started in 1986... Do U know that our Army doesn't have a functional S and T Again , Do U know that the Nigerian Army has been reduced from a total fighting force to an assault rifle clutching GI wearing vigilante force... An article has said the truth about someting and this fool is here living in denial .Get out Joor