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Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by IdiAmin2(m): 4:17pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
I know 2 people personally in the UK who have changed their surnames legally because it has a traditional meaning. A friend of mine with surname 'Fawemimo' - meaning 'Ifa' has washed me clean - got a lawyer and changed his surmane to Emmanuel, changed his children's surnames as well. Asked him why? His answer: there is a curse attached to the name because Ifa is the root in the name. Someone else I know, a devout christian, changed his surname 'Sangojimi' to 'Israel' - same reason, he said he has wanted to do this for a long time, cause his name did not honour God because Sango is a false idol, and he believes the name will bring generational curse if he did not change it. I think this is a slap on the face of your ancestors that have lived for genrations carrying your name with pride and purpose, but because of religious imperialism, some people choose to cut short the name, and will give their children surnames 'Israel' and 'Emmanuel' and his blood line will continue with these names. 3 Likes |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Niflheim(m): 4:29pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
@idi-amin,do not mind them,they have been brainwashed, and yet most of the names that these same european christians use,have pagan origins,yet they never changed it and they are doing well!!! 3 Likes |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Niflheim(m): 4:40pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
Diana=moon goddess dorothy=gift of zeus theophilus=lover of zeus bridget=irish pagan goddess venus=roman goddess of love(venus williams) demeter=goddess of corn(this is the full name of demi moore) |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by PAGAN9JA(m): 4:42pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
OMGS!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT SLAVES!!!!!!!!! I WANT TO SLAUGHTER THOSE PEOPLE! WHAT AN ABOMINATION!!!!!!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by PAGAN9JA(m): 4:43pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
Niflheim: Diana=moon goddess dorothy=gift of zeus theophilus=lover of zeus bridget=irish pagan goddess venus=roman goddess of love(venus williams) demeter=goddess of corn(this is the full name of demi moore) even Cedric - from Cerdic, an old Saxon tribal Kings name. then comes Julius, Eric, Arthur, etc. . |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Niflheim(m): 4:44pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
Abigail=the joy of abu(for all christians who never knew,abu was a pagan god worshipped in mesopotamia,abraham's birth place) 1 Like |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Niflheim(m): 4:49pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
@pagan 9ja,christians spend so much time reading their bible, that they end up as failures in elementary history!!! 5 Likes |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Niflheim(m): 5:02pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
Justina=Justitia(goddess of justice) fortune=fortuna(god of gambler$) rhianna=rhiannon(ancient sea goddess of wales) friday=freya's day(the scandinavian goddess worshipped on the 6th day of the week) |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Niflheim(m): 5:16pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
Athena=goddess of athens esther=ishtar(babylonian goddess) constantine=constantia(roman god) silvanus=(god of forest) |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by PAGAN9JA(m): 5:38pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
Niflheim: @pagan 9ja,christians spend so much time reading their bible, that they end up as failures in elementary history!!! tell me about it. . *smh |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by okeyxyz(m): 6:24pm On Nov 10, 2012 |
@OP, They are not ashamed of their ancestral names. They are just scared that these names might carry the spirits of the pagan deities with them, They are simply following their genuine conscience. @Niflheim has already pointed out that they are "brainwashed" and he's right. |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Nobody: 7:24am On Nov 11, 2012 |
I have two Igbo names, no English name. Won't change them for free entry to heaven. On a serious note, it's just one of the few legacies of slavery. People feeling what's theirs is inferior to the imposed. 5 Likes |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by mumumugu(m): 8:38am On Nov 11, 2012 |
UMUDIBIA children of a native doctor obòdoekwensu place 4 devil |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by okeyxyz(m): 9:07am On Nov 11, 2012 |
musKeeto: I have two Igbo names, no English name. Won't change them for free entry to heaven. it has nothing to do with slavery. I'm sure you are referring to people who choose western names for themselves and their children because it was "cooler" than our native ones, but this is a different scenario and is for spiritual purposes rather than fashion. I know people(even in my family) who have changed their surnames because of fear that the pagan spirits might follow with the names. |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Nobody: 9:37am On Nov 11, 2012 |
okeyxyz:No matter how you spin this, it boils down to slavery.. They switched their local names for english names. Don't those english names have a word in their native language. If there was no english language, would they be nameless? 2 Likes |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by redsun(m): 11:03am On Nov 11, 2012 |
Different strokes.While peoople like us are thinking of changing our socalled baptismal names unfortunately given to us as children. I find it very embarassing and humiliating telling oyinbo that my name is john,edward,micheal or anthony,as african.But i use it because it makes it easiar for them call and rite,since they are either too dum-b or too over bloated to write or mention african names. They think african names,like the language are primitives,"unoyinbo" and apelike. 1 Like |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by kawkab: 11:05am On Nov 11, 2012 |
they listen to fake and lazy pastors that dont know what to preach and the foolish and gullible audience that believe anything they are told. hence their belief in generational curses there are many people in africa today that have names that are derived from deities and they are vey successful. there are many people answering Ogunwalwe, ogunbona, Ogun........... etc who are doing well. Same with a lot of Ibo names. One of our former minister's name was Frank Ogbuewu. Ogbuewu means butcher of goats or goat killer.that did not stop him from becoming a federal minister in Nigeria. Though, any person has the legal right to change his name if he so wishes. no wonder you hear a lot of Nigerians with two western names. e.g Susan Peters, Susan Jacobs, sam martins etc. By d way VANESSA MEANS BUTTERFUL BELINDA ~ SMALL SNAKE 1 Like |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by okeyxyz(m): 11:08am On Nov 11, 2012 |
redsun: +1 2 Likes |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by librangyps(f): 11:09am On Nov 11, 2012 |
Niflheim: @idi-amin,do not mind them,they have been brainwashed, and yet most of the names that these same european christians use,have pagan origins,yet they never changed it and they are doing well!!! Big lie. I know names ind Bible with pagan origin that were changed...abram to abraham, sarai to sarah and many others. If my ancestors didn't know God and I know God Ω̴̩̩̩̥ow what stops me frm answering names that testify the God I worship? 1 Like |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Afam4eva(m): 11:13am On Nov 11, 2012 |
If you must change your name due to it's perceived negative meaning, why not change it to another name in your dialect. Why must it be changed to a foreign(mostly english) name. As for me as i used to bear an English name but had to stop using it. I hate English names. 5 Likes |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Sike(m): 11:20am On Nov 11, 2012 |
Na 'em sabi. As for me, i love my names forlife. 1 Like |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by jayjagz: 11:22am On Nov 11, 2012 |
Why will I be ashamed? My surname is "OGUNMODEDE" meaning (God of iron (Ogun) brought hunter come). What's the essence of being unnecessarily sanctimonious when most people that are changing the name are still finding it difficult to act like christ? 6 Likes |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by afroxyz: 11:48am On Nov 11, 2012 |
Colo-mentality. I did the contrast. I dropped my 'english' name for my native one. As someone rightly said, why not change it to another name in your own language? 1 Like |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by abdulkayus(m): 11:52am On Nov 11, 2012 |
afam4eva: If you must change your name due to it's perceived negative meaning, why not change it to another name in your dialect. Why must it be changed to a foreign(mostly english) name. As for me as i used to bear an English name but had to stop using it. I hate English names. Gbam 1000likes. Even if dey hav to change their name, y nt sometin dat sound nice and hav good meanin in the Yoruba language. There are many yoruba names are good and are of blessin, example, oluwakemi, adekunle, funmilayo, olufemi and many more. I think its inferiority complex dat is disturbing dem. I for example bear both my islamic and yoruba name. Bt sincerely speakin, i cant bear all dos names dat hav link wit ifa or ogun. |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by abdulkayus(m): 11:57am On Nov 11, 2012 |
Niflheim: Diana=moon goddess dorothy=gift of zeus theophilus=lover of zeus bridget=irish pagan goddess venus=roman goddess of love(venus williams) demeter=goddess of corn(this is the full name of demi moore) wooooow, never knew some xtains names have dis pagan origin, hmmmmm. The roman empires have a great hand in dis, dey are d one dat incorporated many pagan belief in xtianity and disguise it as true xtain belief. Some ppl jus bear name anyhw witout knowin d meanin jus cos it sound cool e.g venus, diana. |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by dridowu: 12:10pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
How i wish , i have 1. Well still pround of myself and background. IDOWU |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by dubem3(m): 12:34pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
afam4eva: If you must change your name due to it's perceived negative meaning, why not change it to another name in your dialect. Why must it be changed to a foreign(mostly english) name. As for me as i used to bear an English name but had to stop using it. I hate English names. i had to relegate my English name too i may change my surname but cetainly to another native name never contemplated another English name the one i got without my consent is one too many 1 Like |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Mankind8(m): 12:57pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
Na wa for we africans o 2 Likes |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Nobody: 1:06pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
[size=28pt]When being baptized as a catholic, I had to be baptized after a saint in heaven. I wasnt allowed to use my native name. I became baptised as "phillip". I now know that according to christian logic, heaven is too good for my people from my village. All the saints names were mostly latin, italian, hebrew, spanish or english. Slaves of foreign religions we have become[/size] 4 Likes |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Nobody: 1:18pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
Logicboy03: [size=28pt]When being baptized as a catholic, I had to be baptized after a saint in heaven. I wasnt allowed to use my native name. I became baptised as "phillip".Phillip.. Lol.. A more fitting name would have been Saul... 1 Like |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Nobody: 1:19pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
musKeeto: I prefer Judas! 1 Like |
Re: Ashamed Of Your Traditional Name Based On Religious Beliefs by Alaafialoro(m): 1:31pm On Nov 11, 2012 |
I am xtian but my surname starts with sango(yoruba-god of thunder). I can‘t count the number of people that have advised me to change it but as long as I live on this planet I won‘t change it. My surname usually sound somehow to ppl but I like it that way. 4 Likes |
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