Paris-Love:
Lemme just ask this simple question; "The quran is not in chronological order, all real scholar agree to this! But there was such order obviously. The first "revelation" came to muhammad in the cave. But it has number 96 in the quran. There are medina-surahs (came first). And mecca-surahs (came later). Now the order is completely mixed up !!
So, this is my question; WHO HAS CORRUPTED THE QURAN BY PLACING SURAHS IN THE WRONG ORDER ? AND WHEN ?? AND MOST IF ALL ...WHY !!! REMEMBER: YOUR ALLAH DOES NOT LIKE HIS WORDS BEING CHANGED FROM THEIR RIGHT PLACES.
AND THIS TIME NO SILLY EXCUSES AND LOGICAL FALLACIES, BUT A DIRECT HONEST ANSWER WITH REFERENCES, ETC...PLEASE"

Merry Christmas ♥

Paris-Love:
Lemme just ask this simple question;

"The quran is not in chronological order, all real scholar agree to this! But there was such order obviously. The first "revelation" came to muhammad in the cave. But it has number 96 in the quran. There are medina-surahs (came first). And mecca-surahs (came later). Now the order is completely mixed up !!
So, this is my question; WHO HAS CORRUPTED THE QURAN BY PLACING SURAHS IN THE WRONG ORDER ? AND WHEN ?? AND MOST IF ALL ...WHY !!! REMEMBER: YOUR ALLAH DOES NOT LIKE HIS WORDS BEING CHANGED FROM THEIR RIGHT PLACES (SURAH5:13).
AND THIS TIME NO SILLY EXCUSES AND LOGICAL FALLACIES, BUT A DIRECT HONEST ANSWER WITH REFERENCES, ETC...PLEASE"

Lest i forget, that bible has been translated so many times or have many versions doesn't change anything. The original manuscripts are still there. And just like she claimed Paul never met Jesus, Muhammad too never Allah and likewise Constantine a former idol worshiper was among those that compiled the bible so was uthman a former idol worshiper before his conversion to islam was an idol worshiper.

Thank God she mentioned nothing about originality as Quran was copied from many sources.

Merry Christmas ♥

Florena:
wat u dnt knw is dat d Qur'an was arranged accordin 2 d size of d chapters, i mean 4rm highest 2 lowest
we all cannot deny d fact dat d Qur'an is a wonderful guidance 2 human

fellis: Abeg all this your plenty colour dey make eye pain me, why can't you use only black like other people?

The fact that the verses were not arranged according to how they were revealed does not mean that it was corrupted. I don't even understand how you would see such a thing as corruption. The revealed verses are exactly the same way they were when revealed, in the original Arablc form (even if interpretations exist, the original form and message is still there).
This is the verse you wrote of:
[5:13] It was a consequence of their violating the covenant that we condemned them, and we caused their hearts to become hardened. Consequently, they took the words out of context, and disregarded some of the commandments given to them. You will continue to witness betrayal from them, excepting a few of them. You shall pardon them, and disregard them. GOD loves those who are benevolent.

It is talking about the Isrealites that did wrong during their time by taking the instructions they were given out of context, not for rearranging their order.

I don't celebrate christmas.

Why do you celebrate it? Did Jesus Christ ask christians to celebrate christmas?

Florena:
wat u dnt knw is dat d Qur'an was arranged accordin 2 d size of d chapters, i mean 4rm highest 2 lowest
we all cannot deny d fact dat d Qur'an is a wonderful guidance 2 human

Paris-Love:

Cause am unique
The verses clearly states that God doesn't want his words changed. Am sure the warning or condemnation given to israelites also applies to muslims and he had a purpose for revealing it in stages. But pretty surprised you didn't find the the perfect book of God not perfectly organized as corruption. Doesn’t it indicate that the collection of Quran was not divinely ordained? Even you leave the above arguments aside, how perfect would you call a God that declares today that  ”today I have perfected your religion for you”(Quran 5:3) but still continues with his revelations tommorow ? Can you forgive the imperfection of such a God that has more to say after he has perfected his religion?
Even after declaring in Quran 5:3 that He has perfected his religion, Allah found out that his religion was not so perfect. So he kept revealing more verses .Even if you leave that aside, do you know that the prophet never ordered the compilation of the Quran ? that the collection of Quran was ordered by Caliphs and not the prophet? that the collector of Quran found this task to be more difficult than moving mountains? that the Quran was compiled from bones,leaves, hides and the hearts of believers!! ? ..still you believe that with all this hodge podge ..the Quran surely remained uncorrupted and complete!!!?



I don't care Jesus loves to be celebrated, ask Judas, yea and even his birth was celebrated by Angels and of course the three wise men
Why wasn't arranged as it was given to Muhammad? The Quran we see today was compiled not by Muhammad but by his followers who were fighting each other like bloody hounds. Despite all that you believe your little book wasn't corrupted? Think about it.

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See you all next year. Have a merry Christmas and a fruitful new year

usisky:




Peace to you distinguished Paris_Love, the great Christian Mujahideen. You seem to be renowned in the knowledge of ISLAM even more than the Muslims . Well, i am gonna be a FAKE scholar here. I will attempt to give you the answers to the questions you asked.

1) The whole quran was revealed to Muhammad all at once. It was the release of the quran from Muhammad's memory to writing it down and proclaiming it to the people that took 23 three years. and there is a reason to that. God wanted Muhammad and hopefully some of his followers to memorize the quran. Also, the arrangement we find it today was done by Muhammad as he was instructed by GOD through Angel Gabriele's mediation. If it was arranged by other than Muhammad, quite naturally(as anyone would), they would be compelled to arrange it according to the chronological order of revelation. But there is a divine system in the Quran that we can only attribute to a super intelligence. When you go through our websites, the first thing you come in contact with is this divine system in the quran. It is one of the ULTIMATE MIRACLES of the BOOK.

[17:106] A Quran that we have released slowly, in order for you to read it to the people over a long period, although we sent it down all at once.

[25:32] Those who disbelieved said, "Why did not the Quran come through him all at once?" We have released it to you gradually, in order to fix it in your memory. We have recited it in a specific sequence.


The sequence of arrangement is not an error. It was done by Muhammad himself. Forget all the tales you read in HADITHS and other sources. This is SATAN trying hard to divert people from the path of GOD.

2) Muhammad was not an illiterate man. He wrote the Quran. The first revelation(chp. 96) talks about reading/recitation/proclamation. It also talks about God teaching Man by the use of the pen. The Second revelation(chp. 69) talks about the pen and its function. It is clear that you cannot dictate or ask an illiterate person to write anything down. Muhammad was a successful merchant; a merchant at his time could never be illiterate. The quran tells us Muhammad wrote God's word in no uncertain terms. It is the ignorant scholars centuries later who made the claim of Muhammad's illiteracy in order to make it seem he could not have been the author of the book, when people started questioning the authenticity of the Quran. They even had the audacity to distort the meaning of quranic word used to describe Muhammad and claimed this to be their proof. The word "UMMY" does not mean an illiterate as they claimed, this word means a GENTILE. i.e one who does not follow any scripture. When you go through most translations, you would find how GOD exposes this falsehood when they failed to translated all occurrences of this same word in all cases, since they know the verses won't make sense if translated as unlettered. Anyway, ain't got time for that now.

3)The quran was revealed during the 27th night of the Month of Ramadhan. i.e LAITUL QADR(night of destiny)

[97:1] We revealed it in the Night of Destiny.


Muhammad was not ordered to read/recite or squeezed by the Angel three times until he almost lost his breath. He did not run to his wife because he was terrified, there was no need to. These are lies by EVIL people trying to depict GOD as a sadistic, violent and wicked being. The angel Gabriel usually appears in the form a human being to Muhammad and help give the details of the message which was already placed in his heart. No human being has ever seen an Angel in their true form. When God sends Angels to the prophets, the come in human form. Unfortunately, the story tellers have messed up this quranic truth to some people who believe them. And they come in peace, and not to terrify the messengers. It was the case with MARY([url=http://submission.org/QI#19%3A17-18]19:17-18[/url]), LOT([url=http://submission.org/QI#11%3A77-81]11:77-81[/url]), ABRAHAM([url=http://submission.org/QI#11%3A69-70]11:69-70[/url]) etcetera. Why would it be different in Muhammad's case?

[6:8] They also said, "If only an angel could come down with him!" Had we sent an angel, the whole matter would have been terminated, and they would no longer be respited.

Paris-Love:
Lemme just ask this simple question;

"The quran is not in chronological order, all real scholar agree to this! But there was such order obviously. The first "revelation" came to muhammad in the cave. But it has number 96 in the quran. There are medina-surahs (came first). And mecca-surahs (came later). Now the order is completely mixed up !!
So, this is my question; WHO HAS CORRUPTED THE QURAN BY PLACING SURAHS IN THE WRONG ORDER ? AND WHEN ?? AND MOST IF ALL ...WHY !!! REMEMBER: YOUR ALLAH DOES NOT LIKE HIS WORDS BEING CHANGED FROM THEIR RIGHT PLACES (SURAH5:13).
AND THIS TIME NO SILLY EXCUSES AND LOGICAL FALLACIES, BUT A DIRECT HONEST ANSWER WITH REFERENCES, ETC...PLEASE"
why ar u being double standard in d comparison? The quran is nt arrange based on the order of presentation bt d message remains unchanged, Not even any contradiction like the bible. If u ar interested, there about 50,000 errors in the bible, l recite them 2 u anx time.
Lest i forget, that bible has been translated so many times or have many versions doesn't change anything. The original manuscripts are still there. Did u just mentioned dt d original manuscipts of d bible are available, nw l can see dt u a hand-down christian, meanin dt u only follow what ur pastors tel u, u dont research, did u care 2 knw d origin of christianity? Hw d bible ws compiled? Hw ur pagan xmas ws adoptd? And many more questions u should ve answr to. True salvation should be ur drivin forces. Only d true cn set u free, hope u kw?
And just like she claimed Paul never met Jesus, Muhammad too never Allah and likewise Constantine a former idol worshiper was among those that compiled the bible so was uthman a former idol worshiper before his conversion to islam was an idol worshiper.
Fallacious fallacy.
Thank God she mentioned nothing about originality as Quran was copied from many sources.

Merry Christmas ♥

larrymoore:
I don't celebrate christmas.
Why do you celebrate it? Did Jesus Christ ask christians to celebrate christmas?
@filis dont mind d guy he is just a follow-follow christian, he doesnt care to knw hw dt pagan celebration came about. He is stil alive hope he doernt die ignorant because dt is regretable.

Paris-Love:

Cause am unique
The verses clearly states that God doesn't want his words changed. Am sure the warning or condemnation given to israelites also applies to muslims and he had a purpose for revealing it in stages. But pretty surprised you didn't find the the perfect book of God not perfectly organized as corruption. Doesn’t it indicate that the collection of Quran was not divinely ordained?Even if you leave that aside, do you know that the prophet never ordered the compilation of the Quran ? that the collection of Quran was ordered by Caliphs and not the prophet? that the collector of Quran found this task to be more difficult than moving mountains? that the Quran was compiled from bones,leaves, hides and the hearts of believers!! ? ..still you believe that with all this hodge podge ..the Quran surely remained uncorrupted and complete!!!?

I don't care

usisky:

I have a give a gift for you: HEART'S SURPRISE

If if you ever feel like asking any question, please feel free to. Either here or send me a private message. PEACE!!

fellis:

lol, paris love said Jesus likes being celebrated that is why she celebrates christmas. I wonder which part of the bible Jesus said people should give him a wrong date for his birthday and then celebrate him with that wrong date.

Paris-Love:
Lemme just ask this simple question;

[color=blue]"The quran is not in chronological order, all real scholar agree to this! But there was such order obviously. The first "revelation" came to muhammad in the cave. But it has number 96 in the quran. So, this is my question; WHO HAS CORRUPTED THE QURAN BY PLACING SURAHS IN THE WRONG ORDER ? AND WHEN ?? AND MOST IF ALL ...WHY !!!

Paris-Love:
There are medina-surahs (came first). And mecca-surahs (came later). Now the order is completely mixed up !!

usisky:




Peace to you distinguished Paris_Love, the great Christian Mujahideen. You seem to be renowned in the knowledge of ISLAM even more than the Muslims . Well, i am gonna be a FAKE scholar here. I will attempt to give you the answers to the questions you asked.

1) The whole quran was revealed to Muhammad all at once. It was the release of the quran from Muhammad's memory to writing it down and proclaiming it to the people that took 23 three years. and there is a reason to that. God wanted Muhammad and hopefully some of his followers to memorize the quran. Also, the arrangement we find it today was done by Muhammad as he was instructed by GOD through Angel Gabriele's mediation. If it was arranged by other than Muhammad, quite naturally(as anyone would), they would be compelled to arrange it according to the chronological order of revelation. But there is a divine system in the Quran that we can only attribute to a super intelligence. When you go through our websites, the first thing you come in contact with is this divine system in the quran. It is one of the ULTIMATE MIRACLES of the BOOK.

[17:106] A Quran that we have released slowly, in order for you to read it to the people over a long period, although we sent it down all at once.

[25:32] Those who disbelieved said, "Why did not the Quran come through him all at once?" We have released it to you gradually, in order to fix it in your memory. We have recited it in a specific sequence.


The sequence of arrangement is not an error. It was done by Muhammad himself. Forget all the tales you read in HADITHS and other sources. This is SATAN trying hard to divert people from the path of GOD.

2) Muhammad was not an illiterate man. He wrote the Quran. The first revelation(chp. 96) talks about reading/recitation/proclamation. It also talks about God teaching Man by the use of the pen. The Second revelation(chp. 69) talks about the pen and its function. It is clear that you cannot dictate or ask an illiterate person to write anything down. Muhammad was a successful merchant; a merchant at his time could never be illiterate. The quran tells us Muhammad wrote God's word in no uncertain terms. It is the ignorant scholars centuries later who made the claim of Muhammad's illiteracy in order to make it seem he could not have been the author of the book, when people started questioning the authenticity of the Quran. They even had the audacity to distort the meaning of quranic word used to describe Muhammad and claimed this to be their proof. The word "UMMY" does not mean an illiterate as they claimed, this word means a GENTILE. i.e one who does not follow any scripture. When you go through most translations, you would find how GOD exposes this falsehood when they failed to translated all occurrences of this same word in all cases, since they know the verses won't make sense if translated as unlettered. Anyway, ain't got time for that now.

3)The quran was revealed during the 27th night of the Month of Ramadhan. i.e LAITUL QADR(night of destiny)

[97:1] We revealed it in the Night of Destiny.


Muhammad was not ordered to read/recite or squeezed by the Angel three times until he almost lost his breath. He did not run to his wife because he was terrified, there was no need to. These are lies by EVIL people trying to depict GOD as a sadistic, violent and wicked being. The angel Gabriel usually appears in the form a human being to Muhammad and help give the details of the message which was already placed in his heart. No human being has ever seen an Angel in their true form. When God sends Angels to the prophets, the come in human form. Unfortunately, the story tellers have messed up this quranic truth to some people who believe them. And they come in peace, and not to terrify the messengers. It was the case with MARY([url=http://submission.org/QI#19%3A17-18]19:17-18[/url]), LOT([url=http://submission.org/QI#11%3A77-81]11:77-81[/url]), ABRAHAM([url=http://submission.org/QI#11%3A69-70]11:69-70[/url]) etcetera. Why would it be different in Muhammad's case?

[6:8] They also said, "If only an angel could come down with him!" Had we sent an angel, the whole matter would have been terminated, and they would no longer be respited.

snubish: ol boy, usisky go soon start anoda religion o. I was almost taking the clown serious.

I am convinced Paris love is a man.

fellis:

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Thanks for the gift usisky. I will be sure to contact you if I have any questions.

tbaba1234:
You are kidding, right? Sure way to misguidance, please be careful where you go asking questions. The blind can notnot lead blind people.