Ubenedictus: just a point or two, catholics do not bury or cremate non believers and in early xtian history d xtians forbade cremation becos it was used by does wu said "there was no resurrection of d dead". In recent times those law were turned, though burial is stil d preferable xtian practice, any xtian wu wishes to be cremated may do so inasmuch as he fully believes in d resurrection of d dead. At least from d perspective of a catholic.

Thank you for your contribution. It made sense. But i wonder why this man was buried by the church then?

truthislight:

the Jews attached too much importance to burial,

What about Moses body? deut 34:6- God selected a burial site at a secret location in Moab for Moses.

deut 34:6 He buried him in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is.

1 Kings 2:10: David
Matthew 14:10-12: John the Baptist
Acts 5:5-10: Ananias and Sapphira
Acts 8:2: Stephen
Joshua 24:29-30: Joshua
Joshua 24:33: Eleazar
1 Samuel 25:1: Samuel

They were all buried not burned!

Lets take a look at some scriptural events, it seem that not be not given a proper burial was considered to be a great tragedy and dishonor.

A prophet disobeyed God by eating a meal in a forbiden location.
God laid a curse on him: that his body would not be buried in the tomb of his fathers.
Shortly after, the prophet was attacked by a lion and his remains left on a road.

1 Kings 13:22 You came back and ate bread and drank water in the place where he told you not to eat or drink. Therefore your body will not be buried in the tomb of your fathers.'

God laid a horrible curse on the Israelites: that many would die of diseases, will not be mourned and would be "like refuse lying on the ground".
Jeremiah 16:6
"Both high and low will die in this land. They will not be buried or mourned, and no one will cut himself or shave his head for them.

God laid a similar curse on Jehoiakim because of his pride and disobedience.
Jeremiah 22:19:He will have the burial of a donkey--dragged away and thrown outside the gates of Jerusalem."

It is clear that burying on the earth is God' traditional way, that is how His prophets were buried.

plappville:

Thank you for your contribution. It made sense. But i wonder why this man was buried by the church then?

sorry i didnt get d question! Do u mean d atheist cremation was done in a catholic? Or is d question open?

Zikkyy:

You better disposed off that your device, i think it's possessed (demonic spirit ). Anyways i knew you meant cremated. needed a good laugh if you do prefer 'cemented', i have friends at Dangote cement. As your good friend, i go supply the required quantity of cement for free

lol, no be small laugh my friend.

Btw, i love your reply on that prosperity thread by frosbel.

However, i dont see anything wrong with burning a dead body since i dont see it being of any use to yahweh.

plappville:

Put to the ground is better, and idea... And I don't dream of doing cremation, i will follow the way Gods servants were buried.
I have not concluded it is wrong, i am just saying that, if Gods prophets were not burn and if we truely claim to follow thier method, then we should not indulge in Cremation, That's all. But everyone has a choice so i cannot condemn it. It was strange for me to withnessed such live.

Jesus did not give much emphasis on burial matters.

He said let "the dead bury their dead".

Lets not go superstitious about the dead and start attaching importance to dead bodies.

To me, it is a nuisance and should be disposed off in the most thrifty way possible.
Peace

plappville:

Bro..its a thing of chioce to you, i am not to judge you.

Ah! Thank you my sis.

So if i wish i can have my west dead body burnt off as not to stress my children with plenty wahala of burial ceremony and occupying landed space, which will help them moved on with their life quickly.

Thank you ones more.

plappville:

What about Moses body? deut 34:6- God selected a burial site at a secret location in Moab for Moses.

deut 34:6 He buried him in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is.

1 Kings 2:10: David
Matthew 14:10-12: John the Baptist
Acts 5:5-10: Ananias and Sapphira
Acts 8:2: Stephen
Joshua 24:29-30: Joshua
Joshua 24:33: Eleazar
1 Samuel 25:1: Samuel

They were all buried not burned!

did i say people should not be buried in the ground? No.

I only said if you think it is wrong for me to chose othewise?

plappville: Lets take a look at some scriptural events, it seem that not be not given a proper burial was considered to be a great tragedy and dishonor.

A prophet disobeyed God by eating a meal in a forbiden location.
God laid a curse on him: that his body would not be buried in the tomb of his fathers.
Shortly after, the prophet was attacked by a lion and his remains left on a road.

1 Kings 13:22 You came back and ate bread and drank water in the place where he told you not to eat or drink. Therefore your body will not be buried in the tomb of your fathers.'

God laid a horrible curse on the Israelites: that many would die of diseases, will not be mourned and would be "like refuse lying on the ground".
Jeremiah 16:6
"Both high and low will die in this land. They will not be buried or mourned, and no one will cut himself or shave his head for them.

God laid a similar curse on Jehoiakim because of his pride and disobedience.
Jeremiah 22:19:He will have the burial of a donkey--dragged away and thrown outside the gates of Jerusalem."

It is clear that burying on the earth is God' traditional way, that is how His prophets were buried.

Ma sis pp.

The means of cremation today is not an anyhow anyhow thing o!

It has a procedure.

plappville:
It is clear that burying on the earth is God' traditional way, that is how His prophets were buried.

ya, i think the cremated ashes can be buried, but it will occupy a very tiny space, maybe 1foot space. what do you think?

They all will end up in ashes/dust anyway.

So?

truthislight:

Ma sis pp.

The means of cremation today is not an anyhow anyhow thing o!

It has a procedure.




ya, i think the cremated ashes can be buried, but it will occupy a very tiny space, maybe 1foot space. what do you think?

They all will end up in ashes/dust anyway.

So?

amen, it goes back to dust so what is d whole fuzz abt?

plap is teaching, this is good news. Well done oh, though this your class, this comment has been hidden.

truthislight:

Jesus did not give much emphasis on burial matters.

He said let "the dead bury their dead".

Lets not go superstitious about the dead and start attaching importance to dead bodies.

To me, it is a nuisance and should be disposed off in the most thrifty way possible.
Peace

Jesus did not, but the Scripture does? you wanted me to high light the "let thedead bury the dead" which i died.
Which one be superstitious na? The verses i presented where the superstitious or what?

truthislight:

did i say people should not be buried in the ground? No.

I only said if you think it is wrong for me to chose othewise?

I did not think it is wrong or right, i just wanted to know the bible stands on this.
My family have no history of cremation and as a Christian, i felt the need to dig deeper to know the bible stands on this matter
That was why this thread was created. If i knew much about it, there would have be no need creating this thread.

truthislight:

Ah! Thank you my sis.

So if i wish i can have my west dead body burnt off as not to stress my children with plenty wahala of burial ceremony and occupying landed space, which will help them moved on with their life quickly.

Thank you ones more.

Of course, we always do things the way it pleases us. I have no argument here
And you're welcome....

Image123: plap is teaching, this is good news. Well done oh, though this your class, this comment has been hidden.

You don find me reach here abi? na teaching you call this one? And who tell you say na class we dey here? ...wetin happen to it?



[s]this image123 always have a word to say in my thread euh!!! ([/s]

Ubenedictus: sorry i didnt get d question! Do u mean d atheist cremation was done in a catholic? Or is d question open?

Yes!

plappville:

You don find me reach here abi? na teaching you call this one? And who tell you say na class we dey here? ...wetin happen to it?



[s]this image123 always have a word to say in my thread euh!!! ([/s]

na wa oh. i was trying to be a good friend na. so the post no hide, i need more faith bi that oh.

Image123:
na wa oh. i was trying to be a good friend na. so the post no hide, i need more faith bi that oh.

@Image.

I hope you are not having a thing for this ma pp sis?

Abeg, she is not available, be advise. She has been spoken for.

Image123:
na wa oh. i was trying to be a good friend na. so the post no hide, i need more faith bi that oh.

I kn you so well now, always checking for errors as usual...hahaha , i wonder if Christ will reject us by spelling errors...

truthislight:

@Image.

I hope you are not having a thing for this ma pp sis?

Abeg, she is not available, be advise. She has been spoken for.

I trust Image, no fit try such na, i kn wetin e dey find around me....mockery! but e dey always end up being mocked.....

plappville:

I kn you so well now, always checking for errors as usual...hahaha , i wonder if Christ will reject us by spelling errors...

hhhhahahahahahhahhahahhahhahahahahahahhahahahahahaha, very funny. i would tell you your error if i wanted to na. i find it amusing how that irks you. but i'm not in the trouble-finding mode.

Image123:
hhhhahahahahahhahhahahhahhahahahahahahhahahahahahaha, very funny. i would tell you your error if i wanted to na. i find it amusing how that irks you. but i'm not in the trouble-finding mode.

Euh!! keep getting it wrong...its not annoying me @ all..., just make NL fun sometimes with your kind...
I sabi say you be trouble finder here...

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girl king: Thread derailed... Watching from the sidelines

How

plappville:

Yes!

if u are saying dat a catholic church cremated an atheist, then i'm suprised, becos d church doesnt! I also have questions 4 d church. Actually unless d atheist had a death bed repentance, i dont see how he can get a catholic burial/cremation. Ur case is either untrue, made up or u dont have d full information. Some things just dont have ways around dem.

plappville:

How

how can you ask how? you don start again oh

HEHEHEHE.. burning of dead bodies..what about the Christians that were burnt for what they stood for in time past? plappville do you think they are in heaven or hell ?

plappville: I withnessed a friend Husband burial, The man was an athiest, He was sick for many years before He finally gave up.
When He died, His family and wife took His body to the Cathedral for prayers before cremation.
The dead man gave the instruction that His body should be burned.

My surprise is, i didn't know the Church does accept praying for dead atheists, and even doing the cremation too.

Its my first time to see such in the church. So please, if you have anything to share on this, kindly do.
Thank you.

Bidam: HEHEHEHE.. burning of dead bodies..what about the Christians that were burnt for what they stood for in time past? plappville do you think they are in heaven or hell ?

Did i create this thread to know if burn or buried bodies go to heaven or not? Am i the one that decides who goes to Heaven?
Should the church bury an atheist? and should the church perform cremation? Behave as if you no understand the thread and keep asking me questions you know so well i am not in position to answer.

plappville:



Did i create this thread to know if burn or buried bodies go to heaven or not? Am i the one that decides who goes to Heaven?
Should the church bury an atheist? and should the church perform cremation? Behave as if you no understand the thread and keep asking me questions you know so well i am not in position to answer.

i dong dey vex o!.

Make people leave my pp alone o.

Imagine all this questions.

State your point and move jor.


she also efficiently made her stance clear.

plappville:



Did i create this thread to know if burn or buried bodies go to heaven or not? Am i the one that decides who goes to Heaven?
Should the church bury an atheist? and should the church perform cremation? Behave as if you no understand the thread and keep asking me questions you know so well i am not in position to answer.

oya no vex..just asking ur thoughts on the issue na..na bad thing i do?

Bidam: oya no vex..just asking ur thoughts on the issue na..na bad thing i do?

common tu ta pia pia? i know, i know, my French stinks, plap will teach me hopefully. I'm also learning some Greek from anukulapo, goshen and the hell-phobic gang.

Bidam: HEHEHEHE.. burning of dead bodies..what about the Christians that were burnt for what they stood for in time past? plappville do you think they are in heaven or hell ?

My guy ur head they there