vedaxcool:

Someone sends a missles and kills kids, women and civilians and the same person is free from blame, poor you indeed, only one bereft of any form of common sense would make such argument, it is because of ignoramus like yourself that the world made the Geneva convention, which expressly forbid killing of civilians, in a normal world you would be proclaimed a war criminal or in the lest one who finds war crimes acceptable; see what the U.N is doing to end the unjustifiable killing of civilians in the name of a war against people living in their own country!



In international law and common sense, you are held responsible for actions of yours that lead to killing of innocent civillians, but unfortunately for people like you the only sense you know is the one you sit in one corner of your room ill informed and dishonest like Pamela and co, and make dogmatic statements that only shames the decency of human life!

You are not getting the point the other guy is making you to realise....or maybe you are pretending not to understand him. In a simple sentence, what he is saying is that Muslims that love to act terror should stop waking up problems from USA and Israel. That is why he gave you the instance of JTF in the Northern Nigeria. This is very simple. But if you decide otherwise, stop crying foul and count Christians out of it. Its Muslims versus Government, and even in some countries its one Islamic sect versus another Islamic Sect. When 2 Islamic sect e.g Shia Muslims and Sunni Muslims face each other, is this as well being caused by Christians?

tbaba1234:

Let's be factual, people have a very unbalanced view of things. It is partly due to media covering. Do you know how many innocent children are killed due to US drone strikes in the muslim world, entire villages live in fear. The media completely shut this off.. Do you know what happened in falluja , Iraq, during the Iraqi war, a war started on a lie... You will never hear this from the media. A muslim legitimately defending his home land is called an insurgent. What of the loop-sided support the US has for Israel in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.. There are lots of angry muslims, some take it too far by killing innocent civilians in retaliation. Misplaced aggression.

If the media attention given to the boston attacks were given to the innocent children killed in pakistan from US drone strike, maybe people will understand why some people are so angry. Muslims have internal problems but you have to understand that the biggest marketing tool for extremist organizations is painting the impression that there is a war against Islam. The more muslim children are murdered, the more recruits they will get.

The question wasn't why muslims were blamed for evil things,the queationwas WHY GOOD DEEDS OF THE MUSLIMS ARE UNHEARD OF?

Olayinkaoj:

You are not getting the point the other guy is making you to realise....or maybe you are pretending not to understand him. In a simple sentence, what he is saying is that Muslims that love to act terror should stop waking up problems from USA and Israel. That is why he gave you the instance of JTF in the Northern Nigeria. This is very simple. But if you decide otherwise, stop crying foul and count Christians out of it. Its Muslims versus Government, and even in some countries its one Islamic sect versus another Islamic Sect. When 2 Islamic sect e.g Shia Muslims and Sunni Muslims face each other, is this as well being caused by Christians?

Your analysis is poor. Going by your logic, the whole of Northern Uganda should have been destroyed to get Joseph Kony of the LRA when he terrorised the whole area claiming that his actions are justified by the Bible and Christianianity.

Watch how they dodge the Question:


Reporter Asks White House if U.S. Airstrikes That Kill Afghan Civilians Qualify as ‘Terrorism’
by Rania Khalek on April 17, 2013



Reporter Asks White House if U.S. Airstrikes That Kill Afghan Civilians Qualify as ‘Terrorism’
by Rania Khalek on April 17, 2013

UPDATE: The reporter who asked the question is Amina Ismail, a journalist at McClatchy. I urge you to thank her for asking it (her twitter handle is @AminaIsmail) because I can’t imagine it was easy given how extremely rare and frowned upon it is to challenge the dominant “war on terror” narrative, especially as a female reporter with an Arab-sounding name. And Amina, if you’re reading this, thanks for kicking ass!

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Matthew Keys, the social media editor at Reuters, posted audio of a reporter asking White House Press Secretary Jay Carney if U.S. bombings that kill innocent civilians in Afghanistan constitute an “act of terror” given the labeling of the Boston Marathon bombing as “terrorism”. She specifically refers to a U.S. airstrike earlier this month that killed 11 children, just the latest in a seemingly endless line of Afghan civilian deaths at the hands of the U.S. government.


Reporter Asks White House if U.S. Airstrikes That Kill Afghan Civilians Qualify as ‘Terrorism’
by Rania Khalek on April 17, 2013

UPDATE: The reporter who asked the question is Amina Ismail, a journalist at McClatchy. I urge you to thank her for asking it (her twitter handle is @AminaIsmail) because I can’t imagine it was easy given how extremely rare and frowned upon it is to challenge the dominant “war on terror” narrative, especially as a female reporter with an Arab-sounding name. And Amina, if you’re reading this, thanks for kicking ass!

* * * *

Matthew Keys, the social media editor at Reuters, posted audio of a reporter asking White House Press Secretary Jay Carney if U.S. bombings that kill innocent civilians in Afghanistan constitute an “act of terror” given the labeling of the Boston Marathon bombing as “terrorism”. She specifically refers to a U.S. airstrike earlier this month that killed 11 children, just the latest in a seemingly endless line of Afghan civilian deaths at the hands of the U.S. government.

Carney completely dodged the questions, pointing instead to the 911 terrorist attacks to justify U.S. bombings in Afghanistan. After a long-winded answer excusing U.S. conduct, Carney concludes, “ we take great care in the prosecution of this war.”

Tell me, does this look like “great care” to you?



I transcribed the exchange in full:

REPORTER: I send my deepest condolence to the victims and families in Boston. But President Obama said that what happened in Boston was an act of terrorism. I would like to ask, Do you consider the U.S. bombing on civilians in Afghanistan earlier this month that left 11 children and a woman killed a form of terrorism? Why or why not?

[b]JAY CARNEY: [/b]Well, I would have to know more about the incident and then obviously the Department of Defense would have answers to your questions on this matter. We have more than 60,000 U.S. troops involved in a war in Afghanistan, a war that began when the United States was attacked, in an attack that was organized on the soil of Afghanistan by al Qaeda, by Osama bin laden and others and more than 3,000 people were killed in that attack. And it has been the President’s objective once he took office to make clear what our goals are in Afghanistan and that is to disrupt, dismantle and ultimately defeat al Qaeda. And with that as our objective to provide enough assistance to Afghan National Security Forces and the Afghan government to allow them to take over security for themselves. And that process is underway and the United States has withdrawn a substantial number of troops and we are in the process of drowning down further as we hand over security lead to Afghan forces. And it is certainly the case that I refer you to the defense department for details that we take great care in the prosecution of this war and we are very mindful of what our objectives are.

At the very least, this serves as another example of the utter meaninglessness of the word “terrorism”.

http://raniakhalek.com/2013/04/17/reporter-asks-white-house-if-u-s-airstrikes-that-kill-afghan-civilians-qualify-as-terrorism/


[b]Audio:[/b]http://soundcloud.com/producermatthew/reporter-asks-white-house

tbaba1234:

Let's be factual, people have a very unbalanced view of things. It is partly due to media covering. Do you know how many innocent children are killed due to US drone strikes in the muslim world, entire villages live in fear. The media completely shut this off.. Do you know what happened in falluja , Iraq, during the Iraqi war, a war started on a lie... You will never hear this from the media. A muslim legitimately defending his home land is called an insurgent. What of the loop-sided support the US has for Israel in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.. There are lots of angry muslims, some take it too far by killing innocent civilians in retaliation. Misplaced aggression.

If the media attention given to the boston attacks were given to the innocent children killed in pakistan from US drone strike, maybe people will understand why some people are so angry. Muslims have internal problems but you have to understand that the biggest marketing tool for extremist organizations is painting the impression that there is a war against Islam. The more muslim children are murdered, the more recruits they will get.

wait!! is america fighting a christian faith fight so why is the muslims attacking christians

there's no need arguing with a muslim cos what he is told or brainwashed to believe is what he'l ever know, even in reality where we see that they are mostly terrorists, instead of them to address the point of terrorism from them they are busy citing examples of where a christian was a terrorist. Tufia 4 dz people sef

Movingcoil: there's no need arguing with a muslim cos what he is told or brainwashed to believe is what he'l ever know, even in reality where we see that they are mostly terrorists, instead of them to address the point of terrorism from them they are busy citing examples of where a christian was a terrorist. Tufia 4 dz people sef

We don't argue. we present facts, using mostly western sources. Anyone is free to conclude

Movingcoil: wait!! is america fighting a christian faith fight so why is the muslims attacking christians

Of course America is fighting a Christian fight

America invaded a muslim country without any reasaonable cause. Only an unjust person will deny this.

They claimed Iraq had WMD while the IEAE inspectors were allowed into the country.
This is the reason why Iran does not allow weapons inspection. If you want to attack, do so. But don't first take the decision, then send spies to assess our capability under the guise of weapons inspection and then attack

Here are reports of activities of US soldiers in Iraq. They painted crosses on mosques

1. http://harpers.org/archive/2009/05/jesus-killed-mohammed/

A Special Forces officer stood next to the interpreter—“a big, tall, blond, grinning type,” says Humphrey.

“Jesus kill Mohammed!” chanted the interpreter. “Jesus kill Mohammed!”

A head emerged from a window to answer, somebody fired on the roof, and the Special Forces man directed a response from an MK-19 grenade launcher. “Boom,” remembers Humphrey. The head and the window and the wall around it disappeared.

2. Biblical references are used on gun sights
http://www.dennisgruending.ca/2010/01/bible-references-on-gunsights/

 Coded biblical inscriptions have been found on the telescopic sights of rifles used by soldiers from several nations, including Canada, who are fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. The company that supplied the inscribed weapons initially defended its actions unapologetically, and the response by the American military spokespersons has been under whelming.

3. The soldiers prepare the place and the Evangelicals move in. Several years hence they will be talking about how peacefully Christianity was spread in Iraq

http://www.alternet.org/story/147513/how_american_right-wing_christians_are_waging_%27spiritual_warfare%27_in_northern_iraq

In September 2003, just four months after US forces took down Saddam Hussein's regime, 350 evangelical pastors and church leaders assembled in Kirkuk, where they were warmly welcomed by Massoud Barzani, president of the Kurdistan Regional Government. At that gathering, George Grant, a leader of Servant Group International, the evangelical organization in Nashville that set up the chain of Christian schools, declared that "[s]Jesus Christ is Lord over all things; He is Lord over every Mullah, every Ayatollah, every Imam, and every Mahdi pretender; He is Lord over the whole of the earth, even Iraq![/s]"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/22/AR2005062202335.html
"The way the preachers arrived here . . . with soldiers . . . was not a good thing," said Baghdad's Roman Catholic archbishop, Jean Sleiman. "I think they had the intention that they could convert Muslims, though Christians didn't do it here for 2,000 years." "In the end," Sleiman said, "they are seducing Christians from other churches."

4.Remember that Palin told them that the war was a task from God

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H-btXPfhGs


Drone attacks. When children were killed in Newtown, Obama wept. But he sends drones to kill Afghan children without compunction

This is a report by a American University. It is not Muslim propaganda
http://www.livingunderdrones.org/

This is a summary

1. while civilian casualties are rarely acknowledged by the US government, there is significant evidence that US drone strikes have injured and killed civilians.

2. US drone strike policies cause considerable and under-accounted-for harm to the daily lives of ordinary civilians, beyond death and physical injury

3. Publicly available evidence that the strikes have made the US safer overall is ambiguous at best

4. Current US targeted killings and drone strike practices undermine respect for the rule of law and international legal protections and may set dangerous precedents.

1. Drone strikes foster anti-American sentiment and undermine the rule of law
2. Evidence gathered in the report casts doubt on the legality of drone strikes in northwest Pakistan
3. In addition to killing and maiming, the presence of drones exacts a high toll on civilian life in northwest Pakistan

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?pagewanted=all

It is also because Mr. Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in. It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent.

Proffdada:

The question wasn't why muslims were blamed for evil things,the queationwas WHY GOOD DEEDS OF THE MUSLIMS ARE UNHEARD OF?

So why is the American press not telling Americans news of the progress in China?
Please explain that first

So why do Nigerian Christians who live and make decent living in Muslim countries (UAE, Malaysia, Libya, Saudi - yes Saudi etc) not coming here to post about their experiences? Or is that a lie too?

Its definitly wrong to concoct malicious lies to malign a religious group........

I believe in having all the facts before running into any conclusion....

Our muslim freinds.......make ona Sorry.......

There is no religion on earth that has not come under attack in one form or another. To use perceived persecution or otherwise as grounds for validating one's religion is absurd.

Another thing is that the USA's aggression in the middle east is not born out of religious motivation just as it is erroneous to think Hitler's aggression was religiously motivated. To be blind to the west's economic interests is to be blind indeed. In modern times western nations have become more focused on obtaining resources than on the honour of God or king.

Propaganda against religion will not end tomorrow. It is something everyone will have to deal with without believing that one is isolated.

vedaxcool:

So in the heart of some Christians this kid is fighting a Jihad? pathetic people indeed


In an extensive analysis of open-source documents, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism found that 2,292 people had been killed by US missiles, including as many as 775 civilians.


The strikes, which began under President George W Bush but have since accelerated during the presidency of Barack Obama, are hated inPakistan, where families live in fear of the bright specks that appear to hover in the sky overhead.


[size=18pt]In just a single attack on a madrassah in 2006 up to 69 children lost their lives[/size].


Chris Woods, who led the research, said the detailed database of deaths would send shockwaves through Pakistan, where political and military leaders repeatedly denounce the strikes in public, while privately allowing the US to continue.


"This is a military campaign run by a secret service which raised problems of accountability, transparency and you have a situation where neither the Pakistanis nor Americans are clear about any agreements in place and where the reporting is difficult," he said.

http://beforeitsnews.com/war-on-terror/2012/07/168-children-killed-in-drone-strikes-in-pakistan-since-start-of-campaign-2418370.html

Lemme correct something here, don't involve christanity on what is happening between iraq and US. US doesn't represent christains rather a country. What do u expect from war? When two elephants fight,the grass suffers. During any war,its mostly the children and women that suffers most and there must be shortage of food,clean water or medications.why put up a war with your superior? WAR is very bad...they should drop their weapons and there will be live,peace,food,clean water,etc.

vedaxcool:

So in the heart of some Christians this kid is fighting a Jihad? pathetic people indeed


In an extensive analysis of open-source documents, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism found that 2,292 people had been killed by US missiles, including as many as 775 civilians.


The strikes, which began under President George W Bush but have since accelerated during the presidency of Barack Obama, are hated inPakistan, where families live in fear of the bright specks that appear to hover in the sky overhead.


[size=18pt]In just a single attack on a madrassah in 2006 up to 69 children lost their lives[/size].


Chris Woods, who led the research, said the detailed database of deaths would send shockwaves through Pakistan, where political and military leaders repeatedly denounce the strikes in public, while privately allowing the US to continue.


"This is a military campaign run by a secret service which raised problems of accountability, transparency and you have a situation where neither the Pakistanis nor Americans are clear about any agreements in place and where the reporting is difficult," he said.

http://beforeitsnews.com/war-on-terror/2012/07/168-children-killed-in-drone-strikes-in-pakistan-since-start-of-campaign-2418370.html

Lemme correct something here, don't involve christanity on what is happening between iraq and US. US doesn't represent christains rather a country. What do u expect from war? When two elephants fight,the grass suffers. During any war,its mostly the children and women that suffers most and there must be shortage of food,clean water or medications.why put up a war with your superior? WAR is very bad...they should drop their weapons and there will be life,peace,food,clean water,etc.

viexcey:
Lemme correct something here, don't involve christanity on what is happening between iraq and US. US doesn't represent christains rather a country. What do u expect from war? When two elephants fight,the grass suffers. During any war,its mostly the children and women that suffers most and there must be shortage of food,clean water or medications.why put up a war with your superior? WAR is very bad...they should drop their weapons and there will be life,peace,food,clean water,etc.

Some christians supported the war. American Evangelicals were able to increase their activities in Iraq after the war
They supported it and benfitted from it
Don't take my word for it

In September 2003, just four months after US forces took down Saddam Hussein's regime, 350 evangelical pastors and church leaders assembled in Kirkuk, where they were warmly welcomed by Massoud Barzani, president of the Kurdistan Regional Government. At that gathering, George Grant, a leader of Servant Group International, the evangelical organization in Nashville that set up the chain of Christian schools, declared that "[s]Jesus Christ is Lord over all things; He is Lord over every Mullah, every Ayatollah, every Imam, and every Mahdi pretender; He is Lord over the whole of the earth, even Iraq![/s]"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/22/AR2005062202335.html
"The way the preachers arrived here . . . with soldiers . . . was not a good thing," said Baghdad's Roman Catholic archbishop, Jean Sleiman. "I think they had the intention that they could convert Muslims, though Christians didn't do it here for 2,000 years." "In the end," Sleiman said, "they are seducing Christians from other churches."

The funny and stupid thing is that, the terrorist put women and children in the frontline after committing athrocities

Proffdada: The funny and stupid thing is that, the terrorist put women and children in the frontline after committing athrocities

Open another thread for terrorists
Let us discuss the wicked lies you guys have been fabricating
Or is that covered by "the touch not my anointed" thing?

BetaThings:

Some christians supported the war. American Evangelicals were able to increase their activities in Iraq after the war
They supported it and benfitted from it
Don't take my word for it

Indeed, Jesus Christ with God the father and God the Holy Ghost- The Trinity one God is Lord over all things both in heaven and on earth.
Christainity is never a religion where we kill or force others to join. Its a thing of choice and i don't see why a christain(s) should encourage war or killing while its clearly stated in the Holy Bible that we should not kill.
The truth according to my muslim friends is, most muslims are being brain washed about a verse in your Quran that says, you should force even kill to convert people. So,Christains are not like muslims. We are not brutal or violent.

^

ijawkid: Its definitly wrong to concoct malicious lies to malign a religious group........

I believe in having all the facts before running into any conclusion....

Our muslim freinds.......make ona Sorry.......

Atleast we would take this to be first condemnation of lies and falsehood being perpetrated by non muslims against muslims, shame on the lots of christians whom raised all manner of red herrings to avoid the question at hand, which is IF BY MY FALSEHOOD THE TRUTH ABIDES THEN WHY CALL ME A SINNER?

This summarizes the thread, if muslims are bad why do your people need to LIE to prove your truth? Guys keep playing dodge ball, your tactic of labeling muslims terrorist is hunting u guys seriously, thaba, betathings and mac have taken your lies to the cleaner, yet rather than face the thread, you people keep repeating your slander and propaganda that has been effectively debunked! With the exception of Ijawkid you lot have shamed yourselves by refusing to condemn malicious lies and falsehood, and I expected that Sunday would change your behaviors even if for a while, oh well guess nairaland must have stopped you from church or something, for your hearts apparently remained!

viexcey:
Indeed, Jesus Christ with God the father and God the Holy Ghost- The Trinity one God is Lord over all things both in heaven and on earth.

As a muslim I disagree vehemently with his claim. There is only one God without partner, son or any other person that can be invoked beside Him.

Indeed we see in Qur'an 21:22 -

If there were in them (the Heavens and the Earth) other gods besides ALLAH, there would have been chaos. Glory be to ALLAH; the Lord with absolute authority. He is high above their claims.

viexcey:
Christainity is never a religion where we kill or force others to join. Its a thing of choice and i don't see why a christain(s) should encourage war or killing while its clearly stated in the Holy Bible that we should not kill.

The whole of the Americas were subjugated by force in order to convert them to Christianity
Why did the colonialists in Africa not incite other religions to have an open filed for preaching
Like we saw in Iraq, the evanglicals followed shortly after the forceful colonisation of people
Same experiences were recorded in Asia. That of the Philippines was even dramatic, passing from war with Spain to War with its hitherto US ally

viexcey: The truth according to my muslim friends is, most muslims are being brain washed about a verse in your Quran that says, you should force even kill to convert people. So,Christains are not like muslims. We are not brutal or violent.

Can this your truth-speaking Muslim friend come on here so that we can discuss this issue. This is because I cannot see how a thread on fabrications by Christians would be linked to a a verse (ayat) in the Qur'an unless the American soldiers in Iraq baiting Muslims by shouting Jesus Kill Mohammed were carrying out some pre-emptive strike on those who had been "brainwashed on the ayat"

BetaThings:

Open another thread for terrorists
Let us discuss the wicked lies you guys have been fabricating
Or is that covered by "the touch not my anointed" thing?

They are playing dodge ball in a bid to derail the thread they have continually give responses that have little or nothing to do with the thread!

tbaba1234: ^

^^^^^
I am actually surprised at how people can queue up behind falsehood and then claim the truth sets free
How? Where? When?

Look at this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/431142/71-nigerian-muslims-desire-sharia

^
The strange thing is that had this been about a Muslims making up stuff about other people etc this thread would have reached page 12, but see now it involves them they are all hiding in the wood works and coming in the form of guest, it is disappointing that on a Sunday only [b]one [/b]Christians was touched by Sunday sermon that he found the use of malicious lies as being condemnable, [b]one out over 200 post [/b]in this thread so far! It seems lies can also set these people free . . . if not how hard is it to face the issues on the thread?

^^^^
Or only one Church preached some sermon about truth
The end can justify the means

When was the last time you heard this preached?
Matthew 19:24

I'll say it again--it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!"

BetaThings: ^^^^
Or only one Church preached some sermon about truth
The end can justify the means

When was the last time you heard this preached?
Matthew 19:24

especially if the ends gets you a private jet!

[quote author=vedaxcool]^
The strange thing is that had this been about a Muslims making up stuff about other people etc this thread would have reached page 12, but see now it involves them they are all hiding in the wood works and coming in the form of guest, it is disappointing that on a Sunday only [b]one [/b]Christians was touched by Sunday sermon that he found the use of malicious lies as being condemnable, [b]one out over 200 post [/b]in this thread so far! It seems lies can also set these people free . . . if not how hard is it to face the issues on the thread?[/quot

Dont be too much surprised that you are not getting as much responses as you expected. it has been noticed by Christians that you are confusing yourself by taking Americans to represent Christian. Christians are one entity while America is another different entity. direct your anger as a result of the American Forces action on terrorists in Arab countries to American Government and not Christians, at least Barack Obama was born muslim.

Note- Christians dont see themselves as a community, rather its a business of "You-and-your-God. I am a Christian and my business with God is how to learn to live righteous and not to help God to kill His enemies

vedaxcool: ^
The strange thing is that had this been about a Muslims making up stuff about other people etc this thread would have reached page 12, but see now it involves them they are all hiding in the wood works and coming in the form of guest, it is disappointing that on a Sunday only [b]one [/b]Christians was touched by Sunday sermon that he found the use of malicious lies as being condemnable, [b]one out over 200 post [/b]in this thread so far! It seems lies can also set these people free . . . if not how hard is it to face the issues on the thread?

Dont be too much surprised that you are not getting as much responses as you expected. it has been noticed by Christians that you are confusing yourself by taking Americans to represent Christian. Christians are one entity while America is another different entity. direct your anger as a result of the American Forces action on terrorists in Arab countries to American Government and not Christians, at least Barack Obama was born muslim.

Note- Christians dont see themselves as a community, rather its a business of "You-and-your-God. I am a Christian and my business with God is how to learn to live righteous and not to help God to kill His enemies

Olayinkaoj:

Dont be too much surprised that you are not getting as much responses as you expected. it has been noticed by Christians that you are confusing yourself by taking Americans to represent Christian. Christians are one entity while America is another different entity. direct your anger as a result of the American Forces action on terrorists in Arab countries to American Government and not Christians, at least Barack Obama was born muslim.

Note- Christians dont see themselves as a community, rather its a business of "You-and-your-God. I am a Christian and my business with God is how to learn to live righteous and not to help God to kill His enemies

Yawns when you are able to face the topic we would take you serious . . .

By the Mosaic law death by stoning was the punishment for blasphemy (Lev. xxiv. 16). The 77th Novel of Justinian assigned death as the penalty, as did also the Capitularies. The common law of England treats blasphemy as an indictable offence. All blasphemies against God, as denying His being, or providence, all contumelious reproaches of Jesus Christ, all profane scoffing at the Holy Scriptures, or exposing any part thereof to contempt or ridicule, are punishable by the temporal courts with fine, imprisonment and also infamous corporal punishment. An act of Edward VI. (1547; repealed 1553, and revived 1558) enacts that persons reviling the sacrament of the Lord's Supper, by contemptuous words or otherwise, shall suffer imprisonment. Persons denying the Trinity were deprived of the benefit of the Act of Toleration by an act of 1688. An act of 1697-1698, commonly called the Blasphemy Act, enacts that if any person, educated in or having made profession of the Christian religion, should by writing, preaching, teaching or advised speaking, deny any one of the Persons of the Holy Trinity to be God, or should assert or maintain that there are more gods than one, or should deny the Christian religion to be true, or the Holy Scriptures to be of divine authority, he should, upon the first offence, be rendered incapable of holding any office or place of trust, and for the second incapable of bringing any action, of being guardian or executor, or of taking a legacy or deed of gift, and should suffer three years' imprisonment without bail. It has been held that a person offending under the statute is also indictable at common law (Rex v. Carlisle, 1819, where Mr Justice Best remarks, "In the age of toleration, when that statute passed, neither churchmen nor sectarians wished to protect in their infidelity those who disbelieved the Holy Scriptures".
http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Blasphemy

So we wonder why leveticus sanctions death against blasphemers? or is the God of Old testament different from the new testament? smh unah!

[size=18pt]Anyway how does all your derailment explains lies told by your Christians brother to slander Islam? That is what the thread is about, unless you love playing dodge ball[/size]!

Olayinkaoj:

Dont be too much surprised that you are not getting as much responses as you expected. it has been noticed by Christians that you are confusing yourself by taking Americans to represent Christian. Christians are one entity while America is another different entity. direct your anger as a result of the American Forces action on terrorists in Arab countries to American Government and not Christians, at least Barack Obama was born muslim.

Note- Christians dont see themselves as a community, rather its a business of "You-and-your-God. I am a Christian and my business with God is how to learn to live righteous and not to help God to kill His enemies

Christians are not a community. Yet Christians have noticed. How did you know what this this un-communal community has noticed? By SMS, email, tweets?

So what has Obama being born a Muslim got to do with the fact that he took his oath of office with the same Bible that Lincoln used? Or is it not a fact that Obj was instrumental to Jonathan's presidency? Are they still joined at the hips?

As for America, our posts were in response to Christians trying to split hairs. we know that Nigerian Christians rejoice when Israel fight Palestinians; Nigerian Christians have prayers they have composed to curse Hamas. A lot of them supported the war in Iraq

Now about the story of people being burnt in Nigeria. The pictured used was of a petrol tanker explosion in Congo
The miracle in Egypt was said to have happened in Egypt but on the net Christians worldwide are using it as testimony

So if you are Nigerian, respond to the lie that was generated for Nigerian Christians
If you are outside Nigeria, then deal with the lie that was supposed to have happened outside the Nigeria

[quote author=BetaThings]

As for America, our posts were in response to Christians trying to split hairs. we know that Nigerian Christians rejoice when Israel fight Palestinians; Nigerian Christians have prayers they have composed to curse Hamas. A lot of them supported the war in Iraq

U assume a lot( so, you are now a witch to know what we think or you saw us jubilating like some muslims in Kaduna when they heard that their christain governor is dead. Ah,what a mentality). Anyway,what you think is totally your problem. Thinking is free though but acting isn't.

BetaThings:

Christians are not a community. Yet Christians have noticed. How did you know what this this un-communal community has noticed? By SMS, email, tweets?

So what has Obama being born a Muslim got to do with the fact that he took his oath of office with the same Bible that Lincoln used? Or is it not a fact that Obj was instrumental to Jonathan's presidency? Are they still joined at the hips?

As for America, our posts were in response to Christians trying to split hairs. we know that Nigerian Christians rejoice when Israel fight Palestinians; Nigerian Christians have prayers they have composed to curse Hamas. A lot of them supported the war in Iraq

Now about the story of people being burnt in Nigeria. The pictured used was of a petrol tanker explosion in Congo
The miracle in Egypt was said to have happened in Egypt but on the net Christians worldwide are using it as testimony

So if you are Nigerian, respond to the lie that was generated for Nigerian Christians
If you are outside Nigeria, then deal with the lie that was supposed to have happened outside the Nigeria

dude. Speak only what u can prove. When or where did u see xtians rejoicin over the happenings in iraq or isreal. Dis is really bad of u. Many Xtians dont even understand or have an idea to What is happenin there. Look northern nigeria is the worst place in this country. Your muslim brothers are very poor, they have over 70% of arable land in nigeria yet most of them are starving, diseases are rampant and they refuse vaccination against drugs, most of them are illitrates and the list goes on. Your muslim brothers and sisters are in some of the worst possible situation coupled with the boko haram menace (which u and i know its nt a fabrication) but yt u come nd argue on irrelevant subjects when u can prove to nigerians that ur religion is the best. I just want to ask this question, what has islam contributed to the growth or to the lives of nigerians. Pls no need for long and unnecessary argument. And i am nt against any religion so dont spill nonsense.

BetaThings: As for America, our posts were in response to Christians trying to split hairs. we know that Nigerian Christians rejoice when Israel fight Palestinians; Nigerian Christians have prayers they have composed to curse Hamas. A lot of them supported the war in Iraq

viexcey: U assume a lot( so, you are now a witch to know what we think or you saw us jubilating like some muslims in Kaduna when they heard that their christain governor is dead. Ah,what a mentality). Anyway,what you think is totally your problem. Thinking is free though but acting isn't.

What I think is my problem, I agree. But what you Christians do and are mentioned in this thread is whose problem?
The fabrications here are also my thoughts?

I never said that I know what Christians think. Read what is up there. It is not necessary to assume. You guys talk!!!
Google Nairaland to know what Christians say about Israel and Palestine.
The war in Iraq happened. We read what people said. Is it really too much to believe that people who turned an incident in Congo to an opportunity to spread hate in Nigeria will curse muslims

I suggest you come to Nigerian and attend a Church service and hear the regular curses anyway. It is not stretch to understand that it could easily be applied to Hamas. You don't need witch craft to understand. It is not

As for those Muslims, do we deny?
But as for you guys, it is ingenuity and creativity in diverting attention from topics and denial!!!