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Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by naijaguy77: 4:45pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
ECA - Excess Crude Account The ECA was conceived by the OBJ regime as a savings account to put money away for a "rainy day". Since we base our budget on price of oil, if we say we budget $65 per barrel at 2m barrels per day, during the year, we may be fortunate and oil might actually trade at $100 per barrel and we might succeed in producing an average of 2.3m barrels per day. The excess money we earn would then go into the ECA. This was fantastic public funds management by OBJ, especially because oil prices fluctuate a lot, and sometimes we earn less than we anticipated, the funds in the ECA would the be our saviour on such a rainy day. This was all going well, but there was one problem. The greedy governors realised the the ECA, though a good for the country, was actually unconstitutional, therefore illegal. The governors (including Fashola) threatened sue the FG if all the money was not immediately "shared". This puts the FG in a very difficult position, as the FG knows that it is sound economic policy and prudent management to save for a rainy day. Everytime the ECA funds build up to any significant amount, the governors would come and insist on sharing the money or else they will go to court. This is the genesis of the ECA depletion. The governors want the money shared even when it is not a "rainy day". And members of the national assembly also insist on sharing the money, usually insisting that Nigeria has many problems and do not need to save money that can be used to "solve our problems". Essentially, every arm of government bar the executive arm of FG is against savings. After much bickering, the FG through NOI conceived of the Soverign Wealth Fund, which would be backed by law, as a compromise and a way to ensure that some money is put away for emergency. Even at this, the legislature and govs made sure the cut the FG down and insist on a meagre $1 billion for the SWF. So, is it right to accuse the FG of squandering the money in ECA? Well, yes the FG also got their share of the money, but it is wrong to blame it on the FG, as all the state governors unite in this matter, and their position is always, we must "share" (spend) the money. Again, it is wrong for Madam Ezekwesili to insinuate that the FG is responsible for this squandering. The entire nation, and all parties - PDP, APC, ACN, Anpp, etc is responsible. The truth is, the Federal Government of Nigeria is made up of very inept and unsound people, who are almost always up to no good, such that even when someone like Madam Ezekwesili makes an unsound accusation, instead of the FG to take her on and expose her as unsound, their first instinct is to run and hide, or to respond with even more unsound rhetoric. Shameful really, considering that Madam Ezekwesili can be taken apart in 2 minutes. Shame on FG. 3 Likes |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Joeadamu86: 4:46pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
mikeapollo:I think they are just seeking relevance,its really an act of desperation for someone who has been in Government before to criticizing everything they see...its so pathetic |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Orikinla(m): 4:50pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
[size=18pt]Aunty Okonjo-Iweala knows Ezekwesili very well and knows that what she has said is simply the truth and will not debunk it. That is why she has not joined Okupe and the other ignorant mouthpieces of GEJ to challenge Madam Due Process.[/size] |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by OmoTier1(m): 4:52pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
taharqa: I just dey laugh. So its not $67bn, but $45bn (since d ECA is a SUBSET of d Foreign Reserves as she just admittd). The Govt guys were right aftall.... By d way, what took Ezekwesili this long to mk dis clarification. She shld be careful so that Politics and a quest for Power by sm people, do not destroy whateva reputatn she has of not bn friviolous..... Ova now to those Resident IJIOTS who were arguing with sm of us when dis issue were trending then. @Gbawe, @Demdem, @Omo-koko, @Lacasa, @Seanten1, @Garriman, etcYour stupidity truly knows no bound if anything else, Sanunsi confirmed Obys submission and even went further to castigate the drunken fisherman's handling of the economy, so where lies your silly rant? When they asked you to go to school, you were busy shouting PDP..share the money and running after N1,500 and a bag of rice. Today, you lack capacity to comprehend. Glorified e-thug |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by OmoTier1(m): 4:55pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
naijaguy77: ECA - Excess Crude AccountWhere these governors not there when OBJ saved so much in those accounts? Or did the governors assume magical powers over night? Your type that reason with their head ridden with sentimental bullcrap is partly responses for where the country is today! If FG's claims are to be believed, why haven't the account increased over the last four years 1 Like |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Napoleondegreat: 4:59pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
naijaguy77: This is Economic Illiteracy at the highest level. I used hold Madam Ezekwesili in high regard until this issue. Ninconpump! Foreign reserve is not the same thing as forex reserve |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by mathewalab: 4:59pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
taharqa: I just dey laugh. So its not $67bn, but $45bn (since d ECA is a SUBSET of d Foreign Reserves as she just admittd). The Govt guys were right aftall.... By d way, what took Ezekwesili this long to mk dis clarification. She shld be careful so that Politics and a quest for Power by sm people, do not destroy whateva reputatn she has of not bn friviolous..... Ova now to those Resident IJIOTS who were arguing with sm of us when dis issue were trending then. @Gbawe, @Demdem, @Omo-koko, @Lacasa, @Seanten1, @Garriman, etc That is why people like you failed JAMB / WAEC / SCHOOL EXAMS and later came out to say they failed you - simple expression of Oby you can not decode "45 + 22 = 67" abi you U no rite your final exam or watin. Her expression simply means $45B foreign reserve and $22B ECA, FOREIGN RESERVE stood on its own and additional ECA; which is a sub-set of Foreign Reserve ( Garri plus garri water, everytin no be GARRI) Becareful there before I commot my gun taharqa: I just dey laugh. So its not $67bn, but $45bn (since d ECA is a SUBSET of d Foreign Reserves as she just admittd). The Govt guys were right aftall.... By d way, what took Ezekwesili this long to mk dis clarification. She shld be careful so that Politics and a quest for Power by sm people, do not destroy whateva reputatn she has of not bn friviolous..... Ova now to those Resident IJIOTS who were arguing with sm of us when dis issue were trending then. @Gbawe, @Demdem, @Omo-koko, @Lacasa, @Seanten1, @Garriman, etc That is why people like you failed JAMB / WAEC / SCHOOL EXAMS and later came out to say they failed you - simple expression of Oby you can not decode "45 + 22 = 67" abi you U no rite your final exam or watin. Her expression simply means $45B foreign reserve and $22B ECA, FOREIGN RESERVE stood on its own and additional ECA; which is a sub-set of Foreign Reserve ( Garri plus garri water, everytin no be GARRI) Becareful there before I commot my gun |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by jt2010: 5:02pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
naijaguy77: ECA - Excess Crude Account OP, You write so well but with a lot of bias, so for me, you can best be called "an intelligent mugu" |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by naijaguy77: 5:03pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Napoleondegreat: IDIOT! Forex Reserve = Foreign Currency Reserve = Foreign Exchange Reserve. losely referred to in Nigeria as Forex Reserve or Foreign Reserve. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by naijaguy77: 5:05pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Omo_Tier1: Can you not read? Of course the governors began their clamour during OBJ, it has remained a running dispute between governors and FG for almost 10 years. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by ckkris: 5:09pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Why can't this winch grow her hair and look like a woman and begin to get the attention she desires. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by OmoTier1(m): 5:09pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
naijaguy77:Does it matter when the governors began their clamour? Or do you think we are all blind folded by the accord struck between GEJ and His gang of looters in PDP? Dude, unless you are a criminal, stop trying to defend those who have blood on their hands .. If your rant is not silly, why hasn't the FG released the breakdown of how the account was drawn down and what each state governor got? Wouldn't that be the sensible thing to do so that everyone will see those who are stained by this monumental looting |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Nobody: 5:11pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
hercules07:Mr man, go and look for the meaning of excess crude reserve (ECA) and subset nd tell me how it adds up to 67 billion, u seem not to know d meaning of d words. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Nobody: 5:17pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
hercules07:Im guessing you have no idea about Set Theory then. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by OmoTier1(m): 5:18pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
njokusboy:Duh....excess crude account is as the name says and the money that goes in there are part of the reserves which is suppose to be used to finance infrastructural development ( that is hugely lacking in the country) and also serve as a fall back savings. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by adconline(m): 5:30pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Naija is FCKD big time! So it OK to waste $45bn instead of $67? It's like saying I stole $5m instead of $7m. 1 Like |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by bodee(m): 5:30pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
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Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by talk2s(m): 5:34pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
naijaguy77: This is Economic Illiteracy at the highest level. I used hold Madam Ezekwesili in high regard until this issue. 2ru-talk, U're too much! May i suggest that you start a thread on Economic Indices'. Keep enlightening us. You are CORRECT. 1 Like |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Nobody: 5:41pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Omo_Tier1:Haba oga d excess crude account is a subset of the foreign reserves means dat d excess crude account is part of the foreign reserves so d value of the foreign reserves plus the excess crude account still stands at #45b, dats wat d lady is tryna say, saying d foreign reserves amounts to #67B, leads to an overstatement of the actual values in real terms. Owk. Na so d tin go. 1 Like |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by mikeapollo: 5:47pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Orikinla: [size=18pt]Aunty Okonjo-Iweala knows Ezekwesili very well and knows that what she has said is simply the truth and will not debunk it. That is why she has not joined Okupe and the other ignorant mouthpieces of GEJ to challenge Madam Due Process.[/size] You got it wrong. Infact, it shows how clueless GEJs govt is. All GEJ needs to do is to direct Okonjo-Iweala to address/respond to the noises of Ezekwesili.....and that will deal the final blow to the Ezekwesili's noises! Do you think Okonjo-Iweala would agree that the money was squandered? GEJ is clueless that is why almost everybody can take the govt for a ride |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by victorNRceo: 5:48pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
berem: Dude, please learn how to write your words in full. How could you be writing words in short form? Am so ashamed that a graduate like you, that is if you are one, writes like a University drop out.If you are trying to make your points understandable, write your comments well. smhBeing a university drop-out shouldn't cause a mature human to make an incomprehensible write up,it's more like saying 'berem,u must be a university drop-out for thinking as you've written'. That will sound idiotic because,despite u being a UNI graduate/undergraduate (I guess u are),u still think like a kid with no basic knowledge. 1 Like |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by vislabraye(m): 5:50pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
mikeapollo: Any one who praises OBJ is suspect. Its difficult for me to trust any one of them, either Ngozi or Oby. This debate should be a means to an end and not a spectacle. I want everyone of them probed. Oby should be made to give an account of her stewardship. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Nobody: 5:50pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
njokusboy: Sorry, d figure is in dollars not naira b4 dis bulldogs begin attack me. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by badesco(m): 5:59pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
mikeapollo: It seems you are a GEJ apologist, so am not surprise about your assertion here. this woman has been in the Government before so she knows what she is talking about and if FG does not have any skeleton in its cupboard why dont FG accept her invitation to a public debate. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Nobody: 5:59pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
vislabraye:And how do u propose to do dat. Besides who would do the probing D people who re to do d probing ought to be probed themselves, besides which probe has ever yielded any significant result in dis country?? if bankole got away wit his, I wonder wat makes u tink u have anytin on dis one if at all she even did anytin. Guy, jump out of ur delusive state, am of d opinion dat naija is d best way it can be for now. Evrybody is either a past thief, a present thief or an aspiring thief. 90% at least nd there is hardly a way of telling d sheep from d goats. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by tutu1: 6:00pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Woman you had your chance in Power you did nothing, now you come out accusing people and bringing out all kind of theories, I am not saying Nigerian Government is the best, all is am saying this woman doesn't have Nigeria's interest at heart and there is a political motive for her moves , does she have to do public hearing to give out date, why not put information on internet, or send it to the media and senate so everyone sees it if the government doesn't want to debate with you. Whistle blowers don't seek recognition like she wants eGuerrilla: |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by OmoTier1(m): 6:03pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
njokusboy:I am sure folks like you were day dreaming when the debate of excess crude account was raging during Obj's tenure. Foreign reserves and ECA are two separate accounts even though one gets its funds from the other.. By the way, let me put up her speech excerpts as reported by Thisday newspaper which is owned by PDP. Dr. Oby Ezekwesili, Davidson Iriekpen A former Minister of Education in the Olusegun Obasanjo administration, Dr. Oby Ezekwesili, has stated that the squandering of $45 billion in foreign reserves and $22 billion in the Excess Crude Account (ECA) by the Yar’Adua-Jonathan administration is “the most egregious” instance of Nigeria’s failure to make the right developmental choices. Ezekwesili, also a former vice-president (Africa) at the World Bank, stated Thursday at the convocation lecture of the University of Nigeria, Nsukka (UNN) that Nigerians had lost dignity because of the ravaging poverty arising from poor choices of the elite, corruption and lack of investment in education. Noting that Nigeria had enjoyed five cycles of oil boom, she decried the failure to convert oil income to renewable assets through the development of human capital, development of other sectors or investment in foreign assets as other resource-rich countries have done with their oil income. Ezekwesili, a founding director of Transparency International (TI), asserted, “The present cycle of boom of the current decade is much more vexing than the other four that happened in the 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s. “This is because we are still caught up in it and it is more egregious than the other periods in revealing that we learned absolutely nothing from the previous massive failures.” She lamented the “squandering of the significant sum of $45 billion in foreign reserves and another $22 billion in the Excess Crude Account, being direct savings from increased earnings from oil that the Obasanjo administration handed over to the successor government in 2007”. She stated: “Six years after the administration I served handed over such humongous national wealth to another one, most Nigerians but especially the poor continue to suffer the effects of failing public health and education systems as well as decrepit infrastructure and battered institutions.” She queried: “One cannot but ask what exactly symbolises this level of brazen misappropriation of public resources? Where did all that money go? “Where is the accountability for the use of both these resources and the additional several hundred of dollars realised from oil sales by the two administrations that have governed our nation in the last five years? “How were these resources applied or more appropriately misapplied? Tragic choices.” Ezekwesili advised the graduating students of UNN and other educated young people to become the turning point generation of young and educated Nigerians willing to make the right choices by serving or having a say in political affairs of the country. She said that sorting out the “Nigerian political mess” is critical as there is a strong correlation between politics and economic development. According to her, university graduates account for 4.3 per cent of Nigeria’s youthful population in 2013, a slight increase from the 3 per cent when she graduated in 1985. “This compares unfavourably with opportunities for university education in other countries put at 37.5 per cent in Chile, 33.7 per cent in Singapore, 28.2 per cent for Malaysia and 16.5 per cent for Brazil,” she said. Ezekwesili linked Nigeria’s poor capital formation to the low development of its people through education. “Our lag in tertiary education enrolment is quite revealing and could be interpreted as the basis of the competitiveness gap between the same set of countries and Nigeria. “The countries with the most highly educated citizens are also some of the wealthiest in the world, revealed a study by the OECD published by the Wall Street Journal last year,” she observed. She posited that it was up to the younger generation to restore the dignity of Nigeria by making the right choices to lift the nation out of poverty. She also described Nigeria as “a paradox of the kind of wealth that breeds penury,” noting “the trend of Nigeria’s population in poverty since 1980 to 2010 suggests that the more we earned from oil, the larger the population of poor citizens.” The figures of the poor in Nigeria grew from 17.1 million in 1980, 34.5 million in 1985, 39.2 million in 1992, 67.1 million in 1996, to 68.7 million in 2004 and 112.47 million in 2010, she said. Ezekwesili espoused a new vision for Nigeria couched simply as “we believe in dignity”. She said the resurgence of entrepreneurial spirit based on hard work and sound education were critical factors to changing Nigeria. “For Nigeria’s dignity to be restored, your generation must build a coalition of young entrepreneurial minds that are ready to ask and respond to the question: What does it take for nations to become rich? “Throughout economic history, the factors that determine which nations became rich and improved the standard of living of their citizens read like a Dignity Treatise in that they all revolve around the choices that ordinary citizens made in defining the value constructs of their nation,” she said. The 42nd convocation ceremony of the UNN commenced yesterday with the convocation lecture and the Prize and Awards night for distinguished graduands. First degree holders, numbering 18,150, would receive their certificates today, while higher degrees and honorary awards would be awarded tomorrow and conferred on 1,730 recipients. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by cold(m): 6:16pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Hmm..it's about to get ugly |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Symphony007: 6:19pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
2ru-talk:do not mistake sensitivity for cowardice and idiocy for bravery. For all what she is saying she has no documented proof or credible official to back her up but the government can produce documents and produce backup thereby disgracing her and making her less credible in the eyes of everyone. And that is ho wthe case will end with her reputation to tatters while the truth is still hidden. Now what is the ultimate achievement? She hould put together a very strong case with powerfull evidence before challenging a sitting government, it's common sense! |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Nobody: 6:25pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
sir, with due respect- can u please address the issue in question? you made no sense to me. what has been a graduate or not got to do with the discussion? the economy of the world crashed and it was managed by professors and phd holders right? educated ones were there when shagari became the president of this country right? pls, stop the digression and contribute to the debate in a very logical and objective manner and if u have nothing to add just get yourself a bottle of coke, sit and read on. berem: Dude, please learn how to write your words in full. How could you be writing words in short form? Am so ashamed that a graduate like you, that is if you are one, writes like a University drop out.If you are trying to make your points understandable, write your comments well. smh |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Symphony007: 6:25pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
yommys01: Are you suggesting she should allow herself to be compromised like others you mentioned have? How come the government have never come out to properly defend themselves instead of going for cheap blackmail like they have always done?dude, as sure as one is about something she cannot just keep screaming without anything or anyone to back her up, i don't know why the government is sparing her a public debate because on that day the government will send okonjo iweala(former obj and current finance minister),ninadi usman(obj finance minister),sanusi lamido(current cbn gov.),charles soludo(obj cbn gov.) with stacks of documents they are privy to. While ezekwesili will be on one side alone with no supporter or documented proof. How will that paly out? Who do you think will exit the stage face down? |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by PointB: 6:28pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
naijaguy77: ECA - Excess Crude Account You made a lot of good and interesting points until the bolded. How is the bolded the 'truth'? The truth according to who? |
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