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Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by fash1964(m): 6:39pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
The situation is similar to someone being accused of having 15 wives who denied the allegation but admitted to having only 12. The crux of the matter here is depletion of very substantial amount of foreign reserve with nothing to show for it. This is what needs to be addressed. What happened to our foreign reserve (either $45bn or $67bn)? |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Nobody: 6:40pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
I am sure folks like you were day dreaming when the debate of excess crude account was raging during Obj's tenure. Foreign reserves and ECA are two separate accounts even though one gets its funds from the other.. Lolzzz, some nairalanders are very funny oh, did I ever dispute d debate or d fact dat they re 2 different account? Wat I said was dat one was a subset of d other, read ur statements," one get its fund from d other" wats the difference Now wat dat means is dat $22b was d ECA which was gotten from the foreign reserve account. If u subtract dat, d foreign reserve account becomes $23bn, which still adds up to a total of $45b, by claiming it was $67b, sanusi overstated d figure ignoring d fact dat one was drawn out of the other. Dats wat am saying. Am not saying they re d same account. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Nobody: 6:43pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
fash1964: The situation is similar to someone being accused of having 15 wives who denied the allegation but admitted to having only 12. The crux of the matter here is depletion of very substantial amount of foreign reserve with nothing to show for it. This is what needs to be addressed. What happened to our foreign reserve (either $45bn or $67bn)? Now somebody is saying something. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Nobody: 6:49pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Omo_Tier1: Lolzzz, I assume u have a higher degree but u don't know set theorem in mathematics. Welldone sir. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Nobody: 6:56pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
yommys01: Are you suggesting she should allow herself to be compromised like others you mentioned have? How come the government have never come out to properly defend themselves instead of going for cheap blackmail like they have always done?This is intresting,this woman is making a point. Oya o Sanusi let go to public debate. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by peace3: 7:02pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
taharqa: I just dey laugh. So its not $67bn, but $45bn (since d ECA is a SUBSET of d Foreign Reserves as she just admittd). The Govt guys were right aftall.... By d way, what took Ezekwesili this long to mk dis clarification. She shld be careful so that Politics and a quest for Power by sm people, do not destroy whateva reputatn she has of not bn friviolous..... Ova now to those Resident IJIOTS who were arguing with sm of us when dis issue were trending then. @Gbawe, @Demdem, @Omo-koko, @Lacasa, @Seanten1, @Garriman, etcShe spelt it in clear terms and nairaland with other media outfits reported it in clear terms.Her comments was precise and simple.$45b as FR and $22b ac ECA making it $67b.Her comments is been twisted by these people who takes lies as hubby.Even NTA was there and they she never said there was $67b as FR @ a go.Whatever I don't care.GEJ is not naija's only problem.All of us are.who is not lying?who has not steal?Abeg even pastor or Imam,almost every person in naija is a liar and corrupt except u are not there.For now,I think we are not ready for the journey and I pray God lead us tru |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by otokx(m): 7:06pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Waste of an effort. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by james1(m): 7:09pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
....Action movie series..... |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Afam4evaIsASlut: 7:39pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
taharqa: I just dey laugh. So its not $67bn, but $45bn (since d ECA is a SUBSET of d Foreign Reserves as she just admittd). The Govt guys were right aftall.... By d way, what took Ezekwesili this long to mk dis clarification. She shld be careful so that Politics and a quest for Power by sm people, do not destroy whateva reputatn she has of not bn friviolous..... Ova now to those Resident IJIOTS who were arguing with sm of us when dis issue were trending then. @Gbawe, @Demdem, @Omo-koko, @Lacasa, @Seanten1, @Garriman, etc When eternal fools like urself lie, do you think youre deceiving the rest of the world? How much is $45bln + $22bln? So whats ur argument? |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by nijanigga: 7:50pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
mikeapollo:How is gej paying u? Nigeria means total corruption the whole world knows that fact. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Alxmyr(m): 8:25pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
mathewalab: A subset means part o the set. Your garri example; the water is a subset of water and garri. This is mathematics and not arithmetic. By the way, from your uderstanding of simple mathematics, I doubt if you pass WAEC/JAMB |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Nobody: 8:33pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Afam4evaIsASlut: Gosh, am appalled by the rate of ignorance in nairaland. Look how some dudes re insulting economics nd u re castigating someone dat understands it better than you. Do u tink dis is onitsha main market where u just count money anyhow?? The GNP is 30millon and net factor income from abroad is 20 million, does dat make the GNP 50million? Knowing full well dat net factor income from abroad is a subset of the GNP. Hell yeah, u don't understand, why not kip quiet?? D subset means dat one is got from the other.meaning dat the net factor income from abroad was added to some other figure (GDP precisely) to get the GNP. Therefore d GNP is Still 30million not 30+20. In dis case, d ECA is a subset of d foreign reserves account so d foreign reserve account is still $45b. U add d ECA to some other figure( in dis case $23b) to get the foreign reserves account. And not adding the foreign reserves to d ECA to get another figure. I know u don't still understand, so learn to skip issues about which u re clueless. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Meenoti: 8:44pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
[quote author=daywatcher]someone pitching for a juicy position in case APC wins in 2015 oya Sanusi, we are waiting for your response She cant a job with APC too blunt. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by mrjingles(m): 9:02pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Several glaring issues have been exposed by this thread: 1. Most of us are hopeless at mathematics 2. Most of us don't understand english (the level of understanding is beginning to frighten me) 3. Most of us don't know a thing about economics. on medical threads people humbly ask questions but on economic matters everyone becomes milton keynes. How in God's name can someone in Nigeria with internet access in 2013 not know what subset means? people are actually making arguments that the woman herself has abandoned, accusing the government of trying to distort facts. Me think some of us should spend less time posting on NL and spend more time trying to LEARN something. 1 Like |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by OmoTier1(m): 9:14pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
njokusboy:Your stupidity does not make you realise that your GCSE set theory you keep banging on about does not really applying the case of the ECA To buttress my point, when CBN release update of the latest Foreign Reserves, is ECA included in the amount they often quote? Is the ECA and Foreign Reserve not stated differently? I really wonder the kind of human being some of you are! God gave us all brains but some of you barely use yours to think rightly if at all |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Udpconcept(m): 9:15pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
[quote author=naijaguy77]This is Economic Illiteracy at the highest level. I used hold Madam Ezekwesili in high regard until this issue. The foreign reserve is the foreign currency we get when we export our goods or services. Since we cannot spend dollars in Nigeria, we print the Naira equivalent of the dollar and spend i.e. If Mr Okoro exports cassava to USA, he earns $$s, he can't pay his farmers in $$s, nor can he buy other goods and services, so he takes his dollars to the bank (cbn), they print the naira equivalent and give to him, cbn collects the dollars and keeps in the Forex Reserve. 2 weeks later, Mr Okoro wants to import machinery for his business, he has naira but needs $$s, he takes his naira to cbn, who then exchange it and give him $$ equivalent taken from our Forex Reserve. Anytime you pop champagne in a club, invite Kim Kardashian, or buy a car, you are contributing to the depletion of our Forex Reserve. Anytime you consume imported goods or services that have to ultimately be paid for using forex, you are contributing to the depletion of the Forex Reserve. It is that simple. The Forex Reserve is not such a big deal, it is just a mechanism/tool used by the CBN for stabilising the local currency. So is it correct to accuse the FG of squandering the Forex Reserve? NO. Anyone who makes such an accusation is more or less an economic illiterate. The following can easily lead to the depletion of Forex Reserve: 1) Increase in consumption of Foreign Goods and Services. E.g. Cars, Food, Foreign Education, Machinery, Expatriate worker demand, or Kim Kadashian. 2) Decrease in value of export. E.g. Fall in oil prices. 3) Increase in the value of the Naira against the Forex Reserve currency. 4) A combination of some or all of the above. The following points above mean that, NO matter how PRUDENT the FG is, the forex reserve can still be depleted by the lack of productivity of the economy, or the profligacy and foreign taste of the citizens. It is therefore very silly to accuse the FG of squandering the Forex Reserve. Does FG also contribute to depletion of FR? YES, but nothing on the scale of other consumers in the economy. The FG would need forex just like other stakeholders in the economy, and their need, relatively speaking, is certainly not huge as the rest of the country combined. Ironically, it is the FG, through oil export earnings by NNPC and Oil companies, that is the largest contributor to the Forex Reserve. Economic Illiteracy can make you look stupid, it certain has done so the Madam Ezekwesili. Stay tuned for part 2 - Excess Crude Account (ECA)[/quote] oga abeg let ask u has world bank started given top jobs 2 economic illiterate as u refer her 2. who kows were u are practicing ur own economics may be as an akawo collector......... |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by OmoTier1(m): 9:19pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
njokusboy:Sorry, you need to go back and understand what ECA really is and how it was created by Obasanjo then you would stop this your nonsense rants. Just use your head simply... If your claims are to be true, then deducting the $22bn from $45bn will mean the nation had foreign reserves of $23bn. Now go back to CBN website, or just google it and find out if prior to Obasanjo's handover Nigeria's foreign reserves was ever that low as $23bn. So where lies you nonsensical rants? |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by OmoTier1(m): 9:20pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Ud&pconcept:Lol at Akawo collector Thiers is Voodoo economics |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by snakova(m): 9:25pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
when a man is robbed n he keeps protecting his robber what should onlookers do? wait till the robber has seen the end of him, then call police to protect themselves. smh 4 some deluded bigots on NL. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by mytym(m): 10:00pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
taharqa: NO. Plz read tru d article again. The ECA is a SUBSET of Foreign Reserves. She admittd that much in dis article. If we say that today that the Reserves is $48bn, we also mean that that is INCLUSIVE of almost $11bn in d ECA- you dont add d $11bn to $48bn and say d Reserves is $59bn. This was exactly d point sm of us hv bn trying to get across to FRUSTRATED 'SUBHUMANS' like @Demdem.... There was NEVER $67bn Reserves at any time. OBJ left a little above $45bn (ECA inclusives) Gbam! |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by calcal: 10:04pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
over 100 millions of our people are sleeping without food everyday and yet we have FR for what? |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by plendil: 10:12pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
calcal: over 100 millions of our people are sleeping without food everyday and yet we have FR for what? We should use our FR to buy garri for them? |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by plendil: 10:22pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
fash1964: The situation is similar to someone being accused of having 15 wives who denied the allegation but admitted to having only 12. The crux of the matter here is depletion of very substantial amount of foreign reserve with nothing to show for it. This is what needs to be addressed. What happened to our foreign reserve (either $45bn or $67bn)? It amazes me beyond anything imaginable that here we are bickering over technicalities, when it is clear something very serious indeed is wrong somewhere. Even if it was a meager $1billion - not your regular chicken change, by any means - the question should be, WHAT WAS DONE WITH IT?? |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by StevenJay01(m): 10:29pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
daywatcher: someone pitching for a juicy position in case APC wins in 2015 U re empty |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by tomakint: 10:50pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
All I know is that Oby and SLS are cut out from the same cloth (will condemn any government they have lost touch with just to gain political relevance) she can claim any figure she likes and Sanusi can keep 'exposing' more facts behind the figures in as much as that will not stop my Jonathan from winning in 2015 |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by roxell120(m): 11:10pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
Gennyz: Jonathan is not helping our economy,pls let vote him out come 2015.Imagine him buyin more private jets making us have 11 private jets while England doesnt even have one,our 2013 has a budget 1.4 billion for chopper.People had to protest for them to start earnin 18,000 minimum wage,feeding for Jonathan na 1.4billion wetin dis man dey eat,na "Manna frm Heaven"some pple funny ooo.u just cracked my ribs.truelly I loved GEJ initially that's y I voted for him for I didn't see a better option. but now I've seen that he is too dull and quiet in his deeds and character. disappointed. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by delvinmaya(m): 11:12pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
naijaguy77: This is Economic Illiteracy at the highest level. I used hold Madam Ezekwesili in high regard until this issue. Gbam, only person 2 make sense so far. Odas just came here to scream and rage @ nutin as usual, while some silly ones are here to insult and shush up pple who are trying to educate them. Shaking my Head, as I wonder how they hope to make a headline in life, when instead of learning something new that would be useful, u act like an agbero unleashed on the internet |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Demdem(m): 11:17pm On Mar 08, 2013 |
taharqa: NO. Plz read tru d article again. The ECA is a SUBSET of Foreign Reserves. She admittd that much in dis article. If we say that today that the Reserves is $48bn, we also mean that that is INCLUSIVE of almost $11bn in d ECA- you dont add d $11bn to $48bn and say d Reserves is $59bn. This was exactly d point sm of us hv bn trying to get across to FRUSTRATED 'SUBHUMANS' like @Demdem.... There was NEVER $67bn Reserves at any time. OBJ left a little above $45bn (ECA inclusives) Fool, show me where I made a contradictory post to this either on this thread or previous threads and prove to all that u aren't a bastard. Again I reiterate that Oby has been consistent so far and she knows what she is talking about. Still waiting for the retardeen govt to take up obys public debate challenge. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by HezronLorraine(m): 12:10am On Mar 09, 2013 |
Yeske!:my thoughts exactly.if Gej can set up committees to check why his wife needs facial surgery,dn anoda committee should dig up the facts,but no,he has dirt on him.thats why he can't afford any public hearing.if it were us,obama would have had an open round table meeting with her b4 the entire nation,even if he's guilty,his advisors would save him a blow unlike Jonathan's dumb Federal Parrots(reuben abati,doyin okupe,labaran maku) who just trash talk.Nigeria doesn't have full implementation of its F.0.I LAW.cos if we do,she could have a lawyer file a motion for all files pertaining to the subject matter go into her jurisdiction for scrutiny then hold a public hearing were all parties would be subpoenaed to attend.we still can't have accountability with the govt scrutinizing every dits and dots in d nation. |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Nobody: 12:12am On Mar 09, 2013 |
I would love to see this debate between her and the funny CBN governor. He must prove to us. How does the Islamic bank generates profit and by whose money it took off? |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by KingPradas(m): 12:54am On Mar 09, 2013 |
Carlos slim is richer than our foreign reserve. lol |
Re: Ezekwesili Replies Sanusi On $45bn Reserves by Nobody: 12:57am On Mar 09, 2013 |
KingPradas: Carlos slim is richer than our foreign reserve. lolHe has ever been richer than Nigeria foreign reserve. He is even richer than US foreign reserve and so does Nigeria. I don't know what you are trying to prove with that statement. |
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