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Re: Boko-Haram Has Failed - SSS Public Relations Director by MajorJ(m): 2:40am On Mar 22, 2013
eledalo: Look at this and tell me who is failing.
Your words mean nothing.
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Ohh yeah, i'll post pics of hoards of boko brothers and sisters, that were killed, then you will tell me who really is losing, this is just one attack compared to the many raids, Nigerian army and SSS have jointly carried out, and many losses, why do u think thier ogas at the top are begging for amnesty, because they are losing, boko boys don't usally attack bus parks like this its usually churches, but they realize that they are failing, so now they try to step up thier attacks, just to try to influence Joe-boy to give them amnesty.


OGA i take God beg you use ur brain before u post useless things like that
Re: Boko-Haram Has Failed - SSS Public Relations Director by harryem(m): 4:19am On Mar 22, 2013
Did d bomb blast take place inside d park or at d entrance? Frm wht I heard, it wz at d entrance wr all 3 buses was at d verge of levin as a convey
Re: Boko-Haram Has Failed - SSS Public Relations Director by emiye(m): 4:39am On Mar 22, 2013
Hmmmn, Boko haram has failed ? I wish !
Re: Boko-Haram Has Failed - SSS Public Relations Director by DApostle03(m): 7:21am On Mar 22, 2013
New Student: Great Teacher, why do you want me to carry out a suicide bombing?

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New Student: (Giggling with excitement) Holy shit!!! This will be great.

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Great Teacher: Hahaha! You worry a lot (he placed a heavy palm on the New Student’s shoulder). There are more than enough Viagra pills, even burutanshi, to keep you strong. There is a sea of liquor for you to drink to stupor. You don’t need to worry about condoms and STDs like you do when you visit the local prostitutes here. In fact, the place is debauchery city!

New Student: Wooowww! I can’t wait to get there!

Great Teacher: You don’t have to wait son. I have a target for you to bomb this morning. There will be so many people there so make sure you kill as much as you can.

New Student: (Hesitating a little) Okay sir. There are questions I want to ask before I die.

Great Teacher: Go on

New Student: Why do the other peoples’ GOD demands peace and love while ours ask for hatred, war, blood and deaths? Why does their GOD protect and fight for them but we fight and protect our own god?

Great Teacher: (Livid with rage) How dare you ask such questions? Don’t you know it is “haram”? For this reason you must lose your right hand and left leg.

New Student: (Trembling with fear, held the hem of the Great Teacher’s garment) Forgive me sir……

Great Teacher: Our god does not forgive!

New Student: Remember the 72 virgins, how will I satisfy them with one arm and one leg?

Before the Great Teacher could respond, sporadic shooting started outside and one of the old students ran in

Old Student: Sir, we are surrounded by soldiers. I don’t think we can over-power them.

Great Teacher: Go back there you fool and fight to death! You have your virgins waiting for you.

New Student: Sir what about you? Are you not going out to fight? Certainly you will like to have those virgins too!

Great Teacher: No son! I have 4 wives already with 38 children! There is a helicopter outside waiting to take me to Northern Mali to meet them! I leave you to fight on!

New Studentsadthinking) Is this not a MUMU Project?
Re: Boko-Haram Has Failed - SSS Public Relations Director by logica(m): 8:33am On Mar 22, 2013
Nuzo':


Except you don't wanna tell yourself the truth.

Black communities hardly corporate with the security agents in fishing out criminals amongst them. In the quest to protect their friends and family members, the mess gets messier.

Militants and kidnappers had a field day some years back cos of this until they turned to the communities that were protecting them.

It is also evident in Nigeria political scene. Folks like IBB, Tinubu, Udenwa and Alams can be seen to be idolized by members of their communities/ethnic groups.

The mess is also evident in black communities in USA, Brazil, Africa, carribeans etc.
What you have said about "blacks" can be said about single race and ethnicity. Back when the Irish, Jews and Italians were the hoodlums, of course it was difficult to crack in for surveillance; anybody that cooperated could lose his life and have his entire bloodline wiped out. Same can be said of the cartels now in South America. So it has nothing to do with race.
Re: Boko-Haram Has Failed - SSS Public Relations Director by logica(m): 8:37am On Mar 22, 2013
MajorJ:

First of, who tell you say them no get undacova, just b'cos they don't talk about it on the news don't mean that they don't have under cover.
If indeed they have undercover operatives, those operatives must be the most ineffectual undercover operatives going by the fact that the SSS had to cordon off a whole side of a highway in the name of safety. If the US Secret Service were to work in a similar manner, I doubt anybody would be able to walk around Washington DC or even visit the White House.
Re: Boko-Haram Has Failed - SSS Public Relations Director by Nuzo1(m): 10:28am On Mar 22, 2013
logica: What you have said about "blacks" can be said about single race and ethnicity. Back when the Irish, Jews and Italians were the hoodlums, of course it was difficult to crack in for surveillance; anybody that cooperated could lose his life and have his entire bloodline wiped out. Same can be said of the cartels now in South America. So it has nothing to do with race.

Maybe its not about race tho'. However, the Irish, Jews and Italians were able to evolve and commit to community policing. No doubt, there are still some bad eggs amongst them but they've achieved so much with the evolution.

Over 40 years down the line, Black communities in this same environment have made it enviable among them not to cooperate with security operatives.

For the '60s Jews and recently the south Americans; it was more of fear. For the blacks; its more of being hardcore and the mentality of "anything police is white...and anything white should be avoided".
Re: Boko-Haram Has Failed - SSS Public Relations Director by 1800bc(f): 11:18am On Mar 22, 2013
haka_nai: she also said certain people pay money for protection to terrorist and kidnappers. She is saying that one such suspect had 300 million in his account for a single payment to him for protection. That this monies fund the insecurity. She also made examples of how people in Azare Bauchi stood up against the BH and won with government collaborations.
She is asking all Nigerians to close ranks and help them as it is actually tasking for them to go it alone. With the staff numbers and the number of people they are expected to protect. She has also said they have tried to sensitize the populace (churches, mosque, NYSC, Unions etc) on security and how to manage affairs of security around them.
Meanwhile she has asked for better efforts and information from all of us out there to help curb the situation. About the Kano park incidence she stated that transport unions have always being told to encourage people park outside and ensure only known people get access to drive in to parks. Also she has said that parks collect fees from vehicles using the parks, as such they don't have to wait for government to build fence or secure the premises for them and that they could do it on there own.So secure the area and control movement of vehicles, people and goods in and out of the premises.
She also mentioned that they have acquired sophisticated technologies and also develop certain technologies that have helped them improve on there work. The SSS seem to be doing much and I could trust her atleast with her confidence and position on issues.
The SSS,NAFDAC and FRSC really make me proud of this nation. They are doing remarkably well. Ambulance system of the FRSC is commendable, even thought its suppose to be the work of our health system. I have seen this people respond to accidents with such efforts you wish they could get more vehicles. Well done!!!!!



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Re: Boko-Haram Has Failed - SSS Public Relations Director by solopumpy227: 11:42am On Mar 22, 2013
MajorJ:

Ohh yeah, i'll post pics of hoards of boko brothers and sisters, that were killed, then you will tell me who really is losing, this is just one attack compared to the many raids, Nigerian army and SSS have jointly carried out, and many losses, why do u think thier ogas at the top are begging for amnesty, because they are losing, boko boys don't usally attack bus parks like this its usually churches, but they realize that they are failing, so now they try to step up thier attacks, just to try to influence Joe-boy to give them amnesty.


OGA i take God beg you use ur brain before u post useless things like that

You still do not get it my brother. BH members are mainly brainwashed youth that believe they are fighting and dying for God. Death means nothing to most of them as long as the kill their target(s). Force alone cannot stop them any longer.

To me this crisis is more political than religious. You have millions of jobless youths aimlessly roaming the streets of Northern Nigeria who now serve as ready and easy tools in the hands of evil perpetrators. As long as the Government of the day remain directionless and unfocussed we shall have more innocent boys recruited to unleach more terrors.

Its rather unfortunate that the Northern Elders have not seen the reason to come together to address this crisis. Most of them are too scared to freely gather or say anything to upset the boys. There are tens of cells now with different command lines. The FG need someone who these guys can trust to coordinate dialogue with them but unfortunately again the trusted 'ones' won't want to have anything to do with this Goverment.

In Nigeria today there is only a couple of Northerners that these guys can trust. They may trust Soyinka but I'm not sure if he will be ready to do it. If Government cannot get any of these trusted Nigerians to do it then I will go for one of the popular Islamic Leaders in the Arabian world. Someone who has been seen to defend Islamic course. These guys monitor happenings in Islamic world closely and have heroes that can tell them its time to stop.
Re: Boko-Haram Has Failed - SSS Public Relations Director by logica(m): 12:02pm On Mar 22, 2013
Nuzo':

Over 40 years down the line, Black communities in this same environment have made it enviable among them not to cooperate with security operatives.
Yes; how can you suddenly start cooperating with an institution that was used to subjugate your people? We know the history of the US Police and Black people. That is a completely different matter.
Re: Boko-Haram Has Failed - SSS Public Relations Director by Nuzo1(m): 12:32pm On Mar 22, 2013
logica: Yes; how can you suddenly start cooperating with an institution that was used to subjugate your people? We know the history of the US Police and Black people. That is a completely different matter.

Yes, we know the history of the US pol and Blacks. It was sad, rude and dehumanizing. Most of it is the past now. Its over 40 years....so its no more SUDDEN for blacks to begin to see the bigger picture.

What happened over 40 years ago shouldn't be an excuse for black people to brag about not giving vital info to police that will help combat crimes in black neighbourhoods?

Now you said the situation of blacks in USA is different. What about blacks in UK, Africa, Brazil, Haiti, Jamaica etc?
Re: Boko-Haram Has Failed - SSS Public Relations Director by logica(m): 2:17pm On Mar 22, 2013
Nuzo':


Yes, we know the history of the US pol and Blacks. It was sad, rude and dehumanizing. Most of it is the past now. Its over 40 years....so its no more SUDDEN for blacks to begin to see the bigger picture.

What happened over 40 years ago shouldn't be an excuse for black people to brag about not giving vital info to police that will help combat crimes in black neighbourhoods?

Now you said the situation of blacks in USA is different. What about blacks in UK, Africa, Brazil, Haiti, Jamaica etc?
You cannot suddenly forget since we constantly get rude reminders like Rodney King and Diallo. And the boy killed because he was wearing a hoodie. It is not MOSTLY in the past. Worldwide the police was a tool of subjugation against blacks even here in Africa during the colonial era. And we ended up inheriting the practices of a colonial police force. Which is why people get arrested for "wandering" in their own country. But even with all these, there have been black law enforcement agents who have risked their lives to infiltrate black criminal organizations and gangs.
Re: Boko-Haram Has Failed - SSS Public Relations Director by siokor: 2:40pm On Mar 22, 2013
Can we say Boko Haram is the threat or our ignorance to the real fact of this problem, pls read below and comment.
BOKO HARAM, is dialogue the issue?

MY DIARY

Another focus to the Boko Haram saga (social problem)

1. What is Boko Haram and its meaning?

Could mean “school forbidden” relating to western education and way of life, but its literal meaning could be ‘Threat to our Principles/Values and Heritage’.

2. Who is responsible?

Can be any group of people who are bound radically in their religious precept on the way to living, worship, fellowship and interaction and they are residence within the north and north central geopolitical zone of Nigeria.

3. What are the values of this group of people?

Their core values are tied in their religious principles and heritage; they prize their lives within the tenet of their religion. They coexist and leave apart, and do not see themselves as others and prefer to reside with their kind. They applied their system of coexistence from their religion.

Every tribe in Nigeria has a unique identity in relationship, personality, ego etc, theirs is tied to their religion’s precept.

4. Are their values being threatened?

The answer is yes! Let’s give empathy into the two core values of this group which I term their Principles and Heritage.

Principle: The coexistence of these people which had being tied to their religious tenets has being gravely endangered by Alien and Modern philosophy’s imported into their community borrowed from the western world.

 Alien: these are infusion of alien moral standards into their community by settlers, government or its agencies with outright disregard to their value system, there by bringing friction amongst them.

What are threatened?

a. Standards relating to the place of women in their homes and community.
b. Their religion has made them carefree, giving reliefs pertaining how to live, work, marry etc.

 Modern: this has to do with western standard brought into a religious principled polity. It brings outright disregard to their value system, there by bringing fiction amongst them.

What are threatened?
a. Western laws are not in harmony with the Islamic law, and it is not pleasant for their Islamic laws to be disregarded in favour of western laws in their community.
b. Islamic law favour modest living and dressing, western disregard modesty and approves freedom of piecing, tattoos, whoredom dressing etc. This is brought into their community.
c. Women are no longer or refused to be betroth to ordinary men which was not the case in the past.

Let’s not forget that when the British settled there before independence, they where wise enough to recognize their religious values and introduced an indirect rule system which contributed to the hugh success they had in their relationship governing of them, because they did not interfere with their cultural or religious values, but used it to govern them successfully, without really introducing anything new.

Heritage: Commerce and Colony

 Commerce: Their farmland and trade are gradually eluding them, due mostly to external factors, government, education, etc. They have been betrayed in giving all they have in the promising of entrepreneurship or partnership but left with nothing.

 Colony: They have being threaten continually by not being accepted in areas they call home, areas they have occupied for centuries by the host communities, denying them even a slot in governance, even when there see themselves as indigenes of the locality. They are denied the right of heritage in communities they claim to be part of.

5. Why are they grieved?

They are grieved because their religion did not give them succour or a peaceful alternative concerning these unparalleled issues bedevilling them. So they harmonized certain teachings of their holy book to interpret their grievances and justify their radical actions in perpetuating violence in their locality.

6. Is there a history?

There is a history, which has begun decades ago between indigenes of the north and those settlers from other geopolitical zones who had relocated there for trade amongst others. Different factors have constantly created discomfort between the north and their settlers, from unprovoked libel against the host communities to consummating the businesses of the northerners. This invariably is one factor that has degenerated into hatred and vengeance against the host and settlers (merchants), which where demonstrated through sectarian violence in the North and their place of worship was later absolved a target for their perceived enemies.

7. Is it an ethnic issue?

This grievance was born out of ethnic indifferences that had a history since independence, and it must be taken into cognisance of the various riots and violence which over decades had succeeded in given birth to this dreaded Boko Haram. History can give us a better interpretation of what Boko Haram stands for. We have seen how tribal violence has been succeeded by religious violence and can be succeeded into a civil unrest if not managed properly.

8. Is Boko Haram a terrorist group set to distabilize the country?

From my analysis, I will say not yet, why? Terrorist groups whose aim is to destabilize the country will target hot spots that can cripple Nigeria and not necessarily churches in their locality. Areas like shopping malls, traffic jams, and government institutions would have been continual targets for the groups. Take Lagos for example, every Nigerian knows what will happen if a bomb goes off in a traffic jam in Lagos, it will affect every department in the economy.
But we see their mode of operandi centres majorly around North Central, North East zones. At this time its still centres around their grievances, (lets not rule out a fact that if they want to operate in any part of this country, it is not impossible) If this matter is not managed on time, it can degenerate into a terrorist group that can birth a civil war once their activities crosses into another region.

9. Is there a possible solution?

There is a solution, which can come from two angles; one has to educate the populace the other has got to do with redressing history, and correcting the failures of the past.

We thought we had an amalgamation in 1914 between the northern and southern protectorate (what we really had was the merger of lands and not of values).

We are unified by land and not of values, the aims and objective of every region in Nigeria are different. The Ibo’s man value is as much distinctive from the Hausa as the Urhobo is to the Yoruba.

Nigeria is not driven by any kind of values system, hence the conflicts of the standards in the nation. Our institutions did not teach us how to coexist with the values of other regions.

What we need is a core value system that harmonizes other set values, like understanding why the Hausa/Fulani should have Sharia as the law to govern them in their geopolitical zone, why the Ibo’s through Massop are agitating to secede from the Federal Republic etc.

We need to intently look into what had originally given birth to all communal, tribal and religious crises to see the root cause, then only can it be addressed, for example:

• The British government knew what could pose a problem to their governing the north, hence they introduced the indirect rule system, even when the sharia law was put on hold, the people in the north were give a form of respite.

• The President Shehu, Musa Yaraduwa and the good President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan came up the Amnesty programme, though had not solved the problem totally but has given considerable number of the Niger Delta people some respite.

We must remember the voices of our fathers:-

“Since the Amalgamation of Southern and Northern provinces
in 1914, Nigeria has existed only on paper ….it is still far from
being united. Nigerian unity is only a British intention for the
country”.

Alhaji Tafawa Balewa, first prime Minister of Nigeria on the floor
of the Fed House of Reps quoted in Hansard, Lagos. March 20-April 2, 1947.

Similarly, during the Legislative Council debates of March 4th, 1948, Alhaji Abubarkar Tafawa Balewa, then a leading voice in the Northern Peoples Congress, observed that:

“Since 1914, the British Government has been trying to make Nigeria
into one country, but the Nigerian people themselves are historically
different in their backgrounds, in their religious beliefs and customs,
and do not show themselves any sign of willingness to unite….

Nigerian unity is only a British intention for the country. Many
Nigerians deceive themselves by thinking that Nigeria is one….
This is wrong. I am sorry to say that this presence unity is artificial
and it ends outside this Chamber. The southern tribes who are
now pouring into the North in ever increasing numbers, are more
or less domiciled here, do not mix with the Northern people…
and we in the North look upon them as invaders. (Coleman, 1974)”.

Hon. Justice (Dr) Akintola Aguda in a keynote Address delivered during the Third Obafemi Awolowo Foundation Dialogue, 1995

“If we are honest with ourselves the inevitable conclusion
is that whatever efforts we might have both made before and
after 1914 have yielded but very little results in any attempt
to create a Nigerian nations and tribes that occupy the
geographical land area called “Nigeria”.


a. The National Assembly has to look into the possible relationships amongst tribal groups since history and proffer a better relationship system.
b. The ministry of Education has to introduce a course into the school curriculum to integrate students into both cultural as well as values of each ethnic and religious groups.
c. Create forum to establish government wiliness to assist the polity to adhere to their religious values.
d. Government should encourage States to recognize those groups of settlers and allowing them keeps their heritage in their locality.
e. Government should study the form in which commerce is striving and factor in better incentives to create expansions for their small businesses.
f. Government should introduce, support and encourage the youths into their God given natural resources amongst others, to explore and establish.
g. Government should create settlements for them in every of their chosen districts.
h. In our attempt to find a lasting peaceful solution, we should help preserve our cultural heritage by obliging to assist and encourage these religious groups in upholding and preservings their morals values amongst their faithful.

In the end, Boko Haram cannot yet be tagged a terrorist group; it is comprised of aggrieved persons who have radicalized their grievances into what can be described as terror acts. And since their plight is not addressed, they can continue aiming at a much broader venture.

In all this, we must not be oblivious of the fact that certain opportunist (the real terrorist) had taken advantage of the vulnerability of this defined populace as a reservoir to hand pick and trained militia to carry out their sadistic, selfish and dangerous enterprise against government multifarious agencies.

The best approach to curbing these elements is by what I termed “breaking the bow so the arrow can’t shoot!” that is by addressing and solving the needs of the aggrieved sects these opportunist will be denuded and disestablished. We can come up with the hypothesis for this.

Terrorism can be defined as ‘the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear’.

There are two popular topics that are always present when discussing terrorism

1. A sense of perceived injustice
2. The belief that violence will effectively address it

What conditions create a favorable climate for terrorism?

a. Where there is struggle to protect Religious, Traditional, Cultural and Moral values
b. Where there is perceived threat to Heritage
c. When society have to fight against government policies.
d. When the society have to fight against social and political injustice.

Every individual have the tendency and capability to become a terrorist if their values are been threatened.

What can make a Nigerian Terrorist?

1. If Fulani’s cattle’s are denied passage in the country.
2. If the Ibo's Onisha market is turned into something, other than a market, e.g, golf centre, park etc by government.
3. If the Hausa/Fulani's are denied their religious principles.
4. If the Yoruba’s are denied their traditional festival.
5. If the Ijaws are denied rights to their oil.
6. If the Edo's are denied their traditional ruler

The issue of Boko Haram is more social than economic problem that has long been clamouring for redress to our representatives (National Assembly) under our democratic dispensation to address discreetly.

Nigerians are a loving and hard working people that have set values in unity, faith, peace and progress. Let us not (as our fore father said forget our differences but rather let us understand our differences) by understanding our differences, we can build unity in our country.”

Then we can build a greater Nigeria, let’s keep the flag flying!

Siokor’s Diary

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