Reference: There is no where in scripture where Jesus said fast or abstain from anything in remembrance of me. These are man made laws which amount to little. You cannot get closer to God by performance. Jesus doesn't need your fasting to love you. People should stop making Jesus appear a task master that makes his children jump through hoops to reach him.

He accorded the condemned man on the cross paradise for nothing except an acknowledgement that he was the Christ. 2013 years later we are to do this and that and this and that, haba.

wise_many2k: I ain't a catholic but we all know that the catholic church is the oldest denomination among churches. As a teenager, my mom wld serve only fish with any meal on good fridays cos it is said that "eating meat, chicken, or any fleshy meat on gd friday amounts to eating the flesh of Jesus" So i wanna know if there are other ppl out there that still stick to dis dogma?

As for me, don't ask me if i will eat meat or fish tomorrow..... #dazall

jes7:

We don't need all these unnecessary religious rituals, you can't find them in the new testament. Religion is a distraction from true Christianity (Col 2:. Today instead of people turning away from their sins, they go about observing unnecessary rituals only to go back to their sins after Easter. The message is simple: " All we have gone astray; we have turned everyone to his own way and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all" (Isaiah 53:6). What are religious people doing today? " For they being ignorant of God's righteousness and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God" Rom 10:3. What is supposed to be our response to Christ's death? Fasting- no; abstinence from meat- no. What then? Let the bible answer for us and not the man made religious opinions. What then did the bible say? "Repent ye therefore and be converted that your sins may be blotted out..." ...having raised up his son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away everyone of you from his iniquities." (Romans 3:19,26). Repentance and righteousness is all we need and not religious rituals!

jes7:

We don't need all these unnecessary religious rituals, you can't find them in the new testament. Religion is a distraction from true Christianity (Col 2:. Today instead of people turning away from their sins, they go about observing unnecessary rituals only to go back to their sins after Easter. The message is simple: " All we have gone astray; we have turned everyone to his own way and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all" (Isaiah 53:6). What are religious people doing today? " For they being ignorant of God's righteousness and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God" Rom 10:3. What is supposed to be our response to Christ's death? Fasting- no; abstinence from meat- no. What then? Let the bible answer for us and not the man made religious opinions. What then did the bible say? "Repent ye therefore and be converted that your sins may be blotted out..." ...having raised up his son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away everyone of you from his iniquities." (Romans 3:19,26). Repentance and righteousness is all we need and not religious rituals!

jes7:

We don't need all these unnecessary religious rituals, you can't find them in the new testament. Religion is a distraction from true Christianity (Col 2:. Today instead of people turning away from their sins, they go about observing unnecessary rituals only to go back to their sins after Easter. The message is simple: " All we have gone astray; we have turned everyone to his own way and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all" (Isaiah 53:6). What are religious people doing today? " For they being ignorant of God's righteousness and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God" Rom 10:3. What is supposed to be our response to Christ's death? Fasting- no; abstinence from meat- no. What then? Let the bible answer for us and not the man made religious opinions. What then did the bible say? "Repent ye therefore and be converted that your sins may be blotted out..." ...having raised up his son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away everyone of you from his iniquities." (Romans 3:19,26). Repentance and righteousness is all we need and not religious rituals!

livebullet:

now ur begining to progress from fanatical statements to more rational thinking. now, i obey the teaching authority of the church cos the Church has @ her head Jesus the ultimate founder. And as for the Good Friday chrisstain fast, it doesnt contradict scriptures rather it magnifies scriptures..." it reminds us that man should not leave by food(bread) alone" but should be more concernd bout God's word. Good friday fast of abstaining from meat and other pleasures of the flesh speaks to that effect. thank you

livebullet:


THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST FASTING....EHEHEHEHE......A BRAND NEW STYLE OF XTAINITY. I KNW A POPULAR 9JA PASTOR WHO SAYS HIS MEMBERS SHOULDNT FAST....NA WA OOOOOOO

livebullet:



imagine this ones own comment......are you saying Jesus didnt require we fast.....are u a xtain

jes7:

Fasting is not the issue here, but fasting because you are marking Christ death. You don't need to be sober or fast on Easter as a religious obligation. Repent from you sins, stop doing evil not just on Easter but everyday of your life. If you are living a righteous life you don't have to be sober or sad on Easter but rejoice that Christ died for our sins and has taken away the guilt and punishment for our sins.But if you are still in your sins, commemorating Easter will worthless, useless and meaningless because as long as you are still a sinner, the purpose of Christ death has not been fulfilled in your life!

m.k.o2005:

One man said 'if you have not been labelled a christian fanatic as a christian,then you have not started'
Let every man do as he understands !
God help me

livebullet:


THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST FASTING....EHEHEHEHE......A BRAND NEW STYLE OF XTAINITY. I KNW A POPULAR 9JA PASTOR WHO SAYS HIS MEMBERS SHOULDNT FAST....NA WA OOOOOOO

jes7:

Fasting is not the issue here, but fasting because you are marking Christ death. You don't need to be sober or fast on Easter as a religious obligation. Repent from you sins, stop doing evil not just on Easter but everyday of your life. If you are living a righteous life you don't have to be sober or sad on Easter but rejoice that Christ died for our sins and has taken away the guilt and punishment for our sins.But if you are still in your sins, commemorating Easter will worthless, useless and meaningless because as long as you are still a sinner, the purpose of Christ death has not been fulfilled in your life!

jes7:
Why do you keep chasing shadows? You can fast anytime, any day, any where, but fasting will not take away your sins; repentance and righteousness is all you need. Obedience is better than sacrifice!

m.k.o2005:

How about if what i love or derive pleasure in is fish,can i also not eat fish,assuming am not fasting ?
God i need the fullness of the holy spirit in my life. I need the fruits of the spirit.
God help me

livebullet:

1st i'll like to say the Catholic(from the word Katolik...meaning universal) is not a christain denomination. The cathplic church is "The Church"....other dissidents(breakaways) are the denominations.


FAST AND ABSTINENCE.

It is a traditional doctrine of Christian spirituality that a constituent part of repentance, of turning away from sin and back to God, includes some form of penance, without which the Christian is unlikely to remain on the narrow path and be saved (Jer. 18:11, 25:5; Ez. 18:30, 33:11-15; Joel 2:12; Mt. 3:2; Mt. 4:17; Acts 2:38). Christ Himself said that His disciples would fast once He had departed (Lk. 5:35). The general law of penance, therefore, is part of the law of God for man.

The Church has specified certain forms of penance, both to ensure that the Catholic will do something, as required by divine law, while making it easy for Catholics to fulfill the obligation. Thus, the 1983 Code of Canon Law specifies the obligations of Latin Rite Catholics [Eastern Rite Catholics have their own penitential practices as specified by the Code of Canons for the Eastern Churches].

Canon 1250 All Fridays through the year and the time of Lent are penitential days and times throughout the entire Church.

Canon 1251 Abstinence from eating meat or another food according to the prescriptions of the conference of bishops is to be observed on Fridays throughout the year unless they are solemnities; abstinence and fast are to be observed on Ash Wednesday and on the Friday of the Passion and Death of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Canon 1252 All persons who have completed their fourteenth year are bound by the law of abstinence; all adults are bound by the law of fast up to the beginning of their sixtieth year. Nevertheless, pastors and parents are to see to it that minors who are not bound by the law of fast and abstinence are educated in an authentic sense of penance.

Can. 1253 It is for the conference of bishops to determine more precisely the observance of fast and abstinence and to substitute in whole or in part for fast and abstinence other forms of penance, especially works of charity and exercises of piety.

The Church, therefore, has two forms of official penitential practices - three if the Eucharistic fast before Communion is included.

Abstinence The law of abstinence requires a Catholic 14 years of age until death to abstain from eating meat on Fridays in honor of the Passion of Jesus on Good Friday. Meat is considered to be the flesh and organs of mammals and fowl. Moral theologians have traditionally considered this also to forbid soups or gravies made from them. Salt and freshwater species of fish, amphibians, reptiles and shellfish are permitted, as are animal-derived products such as gelatin, butter, cheese and eggs, which do not have any meat taste.

On the Fridays outside of Lent the U.S. bishops conference obtained the permission of the Holy See for Catholics in the US to substitute a penitential, or even a charitable, practice of their own choosing. Since this was not stated as binding under pain of sin, not to do so on a single occasion would not in itself be sinful. However, since penance is a divine command, the general refusal to do penance is certainly gravely sinful. For most people the easiest way to consistently fulfill this command is the traditional one, to abstain from meat on all Fridays of the year which are not liturgical solemnities. When solemnities, such as the Annunciation, Assumption, All Saints etc. fall on a Friday, we

livebullet:

what is repentance? isnt it fasting from evil and inordinate pleasure which doesnt glorify God?....Answer me!

livebullet:

abeg bros i for still like make u show me where e dey for that bible say make we worship God on sunday(1st day of the wk) instead of sabbath which is saturday. I mean every thing doesnt hav to be in d bible befor the Church have the authority to institute it either as a tradition or doctrine of faith. Do you even know the church compiled the New testament? dat is to say, the church is older tha the new testament....Use ur google and browse "the council of Trent and the canonization of the scriptures".

waldigit :


your holiest holiness, may I make clear that the early church as headed by the apostles had nothing in common with catholic denomination. We cannot rewrite history no matter how hard we try. The church as you refer and as presented by the Scripture has nothing to do with any denomination or any catholic local assembly, but it is a universal body of Christ comprising believers who obey the commandment of Christ. He shall someday marry the Church as His bride.
On meat palaver, Christ once said if you love me, obey my commandment. john 15:16 says one of His commandment is to win soul. Like the scripture says it is wise to major on major things and minor on minor things.shalom.

jes7:

We don't need all these unnecessary religious rituals, you can't find them in the new testament. Religion is a distraction from true Christianity (Col 2:. Today instead of people turning away from their sins, they go about observing unnecessary rituals only to go back to their sins after Easter. The message is simple: " All we have gone astray; we have turned everyone to his own way and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all" (Isaiah 53:6). What are religious people doing today? " For they being ignorant of God's righteousness and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God" Rom 10:3. What is supposed to be our response to Christ's death? Fasting- no; abstinence from meat- no. What then? Let the bible answer for us and not the man made religious opinions. What then did the bible say? "Repent ye therefore and be converted that your sins may be blotted out..." ...having raised up his son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away everyone of you from his iniquities." (Romans 3:19,26). Repentance and righteousness is all we need and not religious rituals!

Goshen360: New Living Translation (©2007)
And so you cancel the word of God in order to hand down your own tradition. And this is only one example among many others." Mark 7:13

New International Version (©2011)
I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people and was extremely zealous for the traditions of my fathers. Galatians 1:14

New Living Translation (©2007)
When I was a child, I spoke and thought and reasoned as a child. But when I grew up, I put away childish things. 1 Corinthians 13:11

^ ^ ^

Kindly find out where you belong among the three scriptures quoted. A child (not necessarily of age in this context) is not different from a slave even though everything the father owns belongs to such child. Time has come to tear down every traditional practices and traditions of men that cancels the word of God, including traditional interpretation of the word.

wise_many2k: I ain't a catholic but we all know that the catholic church is the oldest denomination among churches. As a teenager, my mom wld serve only fish with any meal on good fridays cos it is said that "eating meat, chicken, or any fleshy meat on gd friday amounts to eating the flesh of Jesus" So i wanna know if there are other ppl out there that still stick to dis dogma?

As for me, don't ask me if i will eat meat or fish tomorrow..... #dazall

Reference:

My friend read your bible again. Jesus said if you don't eat my flesh and drink my blood you have no life in you. He said do it oft. He said my flesh is meat indeed and my blood is drink indeed.

Though the real meaning, the koko of the word is different but show me where he said we should not eat meat. If we are to eat his flesh in 'remembrance' of him, what is good friday/easter, not remembrance day?

Then obviously the bible warns us about those who do not eat and forbids others from eating meat.., c'mon read man.

wazobia_for_u: Its not a sin to eat meat but come to think of it, the reason behind it is because is the day Jesus was killed and he did not wanted to die so he was sorrowful, so most people dont feel happy or rejoice because of that till sunday but why did they name it GOOD FRIDAY if what happened on that friday was bad?

NO LONG TIN: Some people here just open their mouth to spew rubbish seeking attention.

1st Roman Catholics not eating meat on Good Friday is a tradtion and i respect that. Muslims dont eat pork, will you say as some brainless people here say its because of poverty? (although pork is more expensive than Beef).
I'm sure other 'belief' have their own traditions

wise_many2k: I ain't a catholic but we all know that the catholic church is the oldest denomination among churches. As a teenager, my mom wld serve only fish with any meal on good fridays cos it is said that "eating meat, chicken, or any fleshy meat on gd friday amounts to eating the flesh of Jesus" So i wanna know if there are other ppl out there that still stick to dis dogma?

As for me, don't ask me if i will eat meat or fish tomorrow..... #dazall

livebullet:

1st i'll like to say the Catholic(from the word Katolik...meaning universal) is not a christain denomination. The cathplic church is "The Church"....other dissidents(breakaways) are the denominations.


FAST AND ABSTINENCE.

It is a traditional doctrine of Christian spirituality that a constituent part of repentance, of turning away from sin and back to God, includes some form of penance, without which the Christian is unlikely to remain on the narrow path and be saved (Jer. 18:11, 25:5; Ez. 18:30, 33:11-15; Joel 2:12; Mt. 3:2; Mt. 4:17; Acts 2:38). Christ Himself said that His disciples would fast once He had departed (Lk. 5:35). The general law of penance, therefore, is part of the law of God for man.

The Church has specified certain forms of penance, both to ensure that the Catholic will do something, as required by divine law, while making it easy for Catholics to fulfill the obligation. Thus, the 1983 Code of Canon Law specifies the obligations of Latin Rite Catholics [Eastern Rite Catholics have their own penitential practices as specified by the Code of Canons for the Eastern Churches].

Canon 1250 All Fridays through the year and the time of Lent are penitential days and times throughout the entire Church.

Canon 1251 Abstinence from eating meat or another food according to the prescriptions of the conference of bishops is to be observed on Fridays throughout the year unless they are solemnities; abstinence and fast are to be observed on Ash Wednesday and on the Friday of the Passion and Death of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Canon 1252 All persons who have completed their fourteenth year are bound by the law of abstinence; all adults are bound by the law of fast up to the beginning of their sixtieth year. Nevertheless, pastors and parents are to see to it that minors who are not bound by the law of fast and abstinence are educated in an authentic sense of penance.

Can. 1253 It is for the conference of bishops to determine more precisely the observance of fast and abstinence and to substitute in whole or in part for fast and abstinence other forms of penance, especially works of charity and exercises of piety.

The Church, therefore, has two forms of official penitential practices - three if the Eucharistic fast before Communion is included.

Abstinence The law of abstinence requires a Catholic 14 years of age until death to abstain from eating meat on Fridays in honor of the Passion of Jesus on Good Friday. Meat is considered to be the flesh and organs of mammals and fowl. Moral theologians have traditionally considered this also to forbid soups or gravies made from them. Salt and freshwater species of fish, amphibians, reptiles and shellfish are permitted, as are animal-derived products such as gelatin, butter, cheese and eggs, which do not have any meat taste.

On the Fridays outside of Lent the U.S. bishops conference obtained the permission of the Holy See for Catholics in the US to substitute a penitential, or even a charitable, practice of their own choosing. Since this was not stated as binding under pain of sin, not to do so on a single occasion would not in itself be sinful. However, since penance is a divine command, the general refusal to do penance is certainly gravely sinful. For most people the easiest way to consistently fulfill this command is the traditional one, to abstain from meat on all Fridays of the year which are not liturgical solemnities. When solemnities, such as the Annunciation, Assumption, All Saints etc. fall on a Friday, we

chelseabmw: IF I SEE MEAT TOMORROW I GO FLEX AM,ABI E DEY FOR BIBLE SAY MAKE WE NOR CHOP MEAT?PLEASE LET ME KNOW OOO