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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by longjohnsilver: 10:07pm On Aug 18, 2017
Good evening my fellow fish farmers...

I need some advise on an issue bothering me presently, i recently upgraded my tank pond to concrete pond.

Relocating the tanks to another area, i stocked both the tank and concrete at d same time but i sorted both the tank and concrete pond of recent and i noticed that the juveniles in the tank are doing great and the ones in the concrete not so great.

I did all pre stocking operations on d concrete pond quite well...at least to d best of my knowledge and from the ones i learnt from this thread.

I just want to make enquiries if there is anytin I can do or not doing to boost up the growth of the juveniles in the concrete pond...

Thanks in advance.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ademola1333(m): 10:39pm On Aug 18, 2017
pals4fero:
Hi Gurus.
I'd like you guys to advise me on what to choose for my Fish farm aeration. Between;

1. Air Compressor. 195L/min. 38kpa pressure
2. Air Blower. 190L/min. 6kpa pressure.

I saw a video on YouTube (by "Mr FISH"wink of a Farm using Option 2. But am confused as Option 1 has higher pressure and can serve through an expansion.
NOTE: Image on a chair is option 1, the other is option 2.
Am stuck with deciding which is better for my 3ponds System (12×9×4) tarpaulins, and I like suggestions to factor in a 300% capacity expansion (concrete pond).
Option 2 is more durable.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ademola1333(m): 10:41pm On Aug 18, 2017
dking123:
Pls is it posible to buy any of them locally?
Yes...
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by gerty06: 12:55am On Aug 19, 2017
l really love your article. l intend to open a fish farm but l still don't know how to go about it yet.

your write up is really helpful.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by chilanfarms(m): 10:28am On Aug 19, 2017
gerty06:
l really love your article. l intend to open a fish farm but l still don't know how to go about it yet.

your write up is really helpful.
you can contact him and some other practicing fish farmers here for guide on how to start well.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 10:48am On Aug 19, 2017
retin01:
I bought post fingerling and 1.8 mm durante it lasted for about 2weeks , 2mm durante 2bags it lasted for about a month, 3mm durante 2bags and I now switch to motifeed 4mm 3bags, motifeed 6mm 12bags, motifeed 9mm about 14bags. but all d bags is about 33bags which is about 500kg feeds. and I just finish drying some of d fish, am a novice like u oooh
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 10:50am On Aug 19, 2017
retin01:
I just sold some of my fishes last week sept 22 make it four months and d big one were about 1.7kg I don't kw what happen but they are big and I use concrete pond. I intend 2 keep some as brookstock and also dry some
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 10:52am On Aug 19, 2017
retin01:
l stocks 500 for four months
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 10:57am On Aug 19, 2017
excelsiorfarm:
remedy?? It is good to always understudy your fishes, their needs i.e. Feeding regime, quantity, do slot of your fishes to have uniform/almost uniform sizes, u should cover your ponds too(keep them in d dark)
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 12:28pm On Aug 19, 2017
jites:


Thanks Oh Fhemmmy someone has to try and put all this theory into practice.. special thanks to Robinski..I dey trouble the man on whatsapp whenever I notice any casala o. I started with just 30 then decided that I will just keep growing the 30 into broodstock for future hatching exercise.. so Mickfish be on standby o cos I like one hatchery photo you put up one time but I cannot locate it again so i will need your assistance with the construction of a little compact hatchery next year. Presently I stocked 1200 for trial and so far God has been faithful and everything is going according to plan. A little challenge is the 3 days changing of water.. I think it's a kind of waste with no proper drainage system. So I decided to plant some plantains as they use water a lot and then planted some other crops. Next year I intend to by God's grace construct a little earthen pond close by which will mainly be for broodstock growing and some of the water from the concrete pond will be going there.
We have formed a cooperative in our location as there was none and registered it.. more than 20 members now of different aspects from hatchery specialist to grow out guys.
We would endeavour to regulate the price by kilo and take the mono poly from the market women.. We will try a d work with them so everyone is a winner
Members are shareholders buying shares and in turn the pool of fund will be available as credit facility for members and later none members with collateral. Profit distributed by ratio of shares owned
Make the cooperative a platform to get government agricultural grants and assistance.
In the long run hatching, drying and packaging is on the agenda cos one has to try and maximise return with less effort by his Grace. Shalom all

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fish4wealth: 1:35pm On Aug 19, 2017
@petimonde....i read your thread and curious to know if your sales outweighed your cost of production. I did an assumed calculation based on your info of 33bags against 500 fishes to get approx #420/fish....I hope most are weighing 850g and above?
I will like to provide analysis assistance with respect to sales....or contact me on 08153701613....
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 2:44pm On Aug 19, 2017
jites:
Thanks Robonski, i discovered that procrastination can be a dream killer sometimes so decided to take the bull by the horn and start with the little we had. There is no better time to start than now.
I want to state here and now so as not to give people some kind of false representation when i said its better to start now.

Firstly, i have been gathering information about fish farming for a while now to the extent Oga Robonski tire for me and kept asking me " when are you starting when are you starting? lol you can ask him so please dont just jump into fish farming without getting the necessary training- both theory and practical.
Following on from the training stuff, my business partner before we started attended a catfish training organised by Oga Robonski in Lagos, Mickyfish also visited our land to give us some advice on how to proceed and also my business partner also went to Songhai in Benin republic to see and learn a few things also.
I have said all these because someone stated and quite rightly that some farmer dont tell the truth and if i am asked any question i will provide truthful answers
Okay back to the original question i was asked by Oga Robonski and Fhemmy the Novice with regards to the dimension and cost, the best thing is to post the cost estimate i was given by the builders exactly but take note of the cememt price cost at the time was 1700 but they used 1800 for the estimate just incase it went up a little during construction so please factor that in.
Also we did german floor and concrete pillars as Robonski had already pointed out.


Estimated size
34 feet by 20 feet (four ponds in one). Each pond is 20feet by 8. 5 feet.
Blocks (6 inches)
Four coaches to make each pond. Total number of blocks will be 396.
Estimated materials
 13 bags of cement for one tipper of sharp sand. 13bags x N1,800(plus transport)=N23,000. 30 blocks from one bag of cement.
 Two tippers of sand N17,000 x 2=N34,000
 Workmanship for molding of 390 blocks x N30 = N11,700
 Rod 10 x N1,100=N11,000
 Rod workmanship N5,000
 Granite (one pick up) N17,000 plus 4 bags of cement for casting of pillars
 8 bags of cement for plaster N14,400 plus 16 water seal N500 x 16 = N8,000
 396 x N10 for blocks setting N3,960 plus helper N2,000
 9 bags of cement for setting of blocks (This could be less than)
 4 board of wood @ N1,200x4=N4,800
 Nails (4 inches and 3 inches) = N400
 Wood union=N500
 Carrying of wood=N500
 Carpenter workmanship=N3,000
 Pouring of German floor, 2 work men @N6,000 plus helper @ N2,000=N8,000
 10 bags of cement for German floor x N1,800=N18,000
 Plumbing estimate N20,000
Total estimate=N198,000

Note: The price of bag of cement is currently N1,700 at the time of this estimate but I just estimated N1,800.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 2:48pm On Aug 19, 2017
jites:


@ Fhemmmy i think the standard is usually 10 by 10 feet which should be able to raise 1000 to table size, however, i am not too stuck up on calculation and sizes, but by now every serious non greedy farmer should have the awareness of the fact that overstocking is not ideal, i for one i just make sure a pond is not over stock as this can inhibit their growth and freedom.

As you can see from mine its not the usual 10 by 10 but i am aware of what the standard is and able to use that as a yardstick to make sure the fishes have got enough room to swim around, play and grow.
I think it is also worth noting that although we say 10 by 10 should be stock with at least 1000 but by the time you start sorting them into sizes you may end up with less than the 1000 in a pond due to moving some into a separate pond as a result of their new sizes, that's why it is advisable to have spare capacity to cater for things like
sorting
pond leakages and repairs
disease outbreak and quarantine etc
By the grace of God i have capacity for more ponds to be constructed but i need to test the market and make sure expansion is being driven by demand.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 4:36pm On Aug 19, 2017
gerty06:
l really love your article. l intend to open a fish farm but l still don't know how to go about it yet.

your write up is really helpful.

That good to know sir, what do u currently have on ground? u need land, regular water supply, pond(earthen, concrete, collapsible pond) working capital for feeding etc. kindly ask ur question we will be glad in assisting u.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 4:44pm On Aug 19, 2017
dolarland:
Good afternoon house. All thanks to robonski15 for this great thread.
Post fingerings shooters (clarias gariepinus) for sale at N15. If u are based in Port Harcourt, Rumokoro. u can come to d farm and we select d shooters together. Serious buyers only. Contact 0808 870 2261 if interested.

chairman those fingerlings look very healthy.. Good job.. Lets have a chat on whatsapp 08061682047. cheers
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 4:47pm On Aug 19, 2017
saheyijide:

I am given 3 options to sterilize the tarpaulin pond
1. Full it with water and add salt then leave it for 2-3days before draining the water and pumping fresh water
2. Get poultry waste in sac, tie the mouth of the sac and put it in the pond filled with water for 4-5days before draining the water, removing the poultry waste in sac and pumping fresh water in the pond
3. The use of palm oil to rub the tarpaulin wall n bottom of the pond and leave for few hours before Rinsing off detergent and water then pumping fresh water into the pond
@my Oga farmers in d house. Pls advice is needed in selecting an option. And I have already prospond the stocking of my pond till next week so as to make such I get this part of sterilization of the pond right

Which option did you use, at the long run sir..
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 4:51pm On Aug 19, 2017
Rokaa:


My bad. it's metre not cm.

Thanks for the correction.

You can stock 700..
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Probityfarms: 7:01pm On Aug 19, 2017
Interesting Read. You can also get to share your work/ information on my farmers forum.

Click on; www.probityfarms.com/forum

and create your post i am sure you would be able to reach more farmers. keep up the good work
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 10:35pm On Aug 19, 2017
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Hello fellow farmers.
It is my pleasure to share with you my recent experience with fish fraudulent buyers.
We had table size fish for sell, so I told my farm manager to make some few calls.
This particular bulk buyer had patronised us some few months ago.
When he eventually came, he bought from two of my ponds.
The sells ( kgs and no of fish) was worrisome. By my calculation we should realised more than what he paid for it.
He came again the second time, this time the manager was prepared(the manager already weighed a sample size average weight was 1kg).
Apparently 25 of the fishes should weigh 25kg but it was ranging between 18and 20kg. This raised suspicion and argument ensured. He left in anger haven realised he was being exposed.
My farm manager decided to check the scale for any foreign substances. He opened the scale, behold there was a tied particle board under the spring. This was a force holding the spring from moving pass 20kg. Any addition fish is not accounted for. The quantity that should give you 50kg will be reading 20kg.
From the initial sale to this fraudulent man, l lost about 150,000.
Farmers be warned. Some uses magnet.

1.on no account should the enter your pond.
2.they must not toubch your scale (this scenario was because they touch the scale. By evil invocation that item was transferred into the scale)
3. Scale your fish ready for sale. By this you already know your kgs
4. Get enough assistance. They can watch the buyers very closely
These people can run your business down.
Be vigilant. Good luck farmers.

The name of the man his Segun. Nos. 08068291816, 09058599322
He will bring a vehicle and tell you he buys as much as 800kg and above
Have also been a big victim of this, that I lost over 250 to 300 thousand cos he brought 300kg from me and the last time he came by then I have my own new scale,I allowed him scale his first 50kg and when I rescale his 50kg I was getting 96kg which I was confused and even went to another farm to get scale and it was still d same as 96kg
Buy a digital scale, its almost impossible to manoeuvre. Any fish buyer that refuses to use it is a thief.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 2:11pm On Aug 20, 2017
AgriLegend:
Good Evening Great Farmers,
Does anyone have a good and scalable method or application for keeping fish farm operations records?
It's one thing to be doing business, but to maximize efficiency and productivity you have to have numbers.

If so can you give good recommendations?

Thanks,

AgriLegend.


I know someone that sells farmers record book.. But I Dont know how much.. Contact me privately will give u his info..
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 2:52pm On Aug 20, 2017
mozek24:


The answer is yes.

The guy who introduced me into fish in herited his father's 6 rooms "face me I face you" house. He started by setting tiny ponds around the fence, graduated to creating pond at the only available space at the back yard. In January this year he evicted a tenant and converted the room to a pond (about 10 ft by 10ft). In July he evicted another tenant and constructed another pond in the room space. In September he evicted the 3rd tenant and did broilers. He occupies 2 rooms and have a tenant. Do you the that tenant will survive next year in that house?

His reasons:

His tenants pay N2,000 a month and its not regular
2000 *12 = 24,000.

He stocks 1000 table size and sells at about 2kg within 6 months makes about 150,000
150,000 * 2 cycles =N300,000.

According to him he makes about N300,000 for the same space.

I hope that answers your inquiry.

Warning: this is a live scenerio but I won't encourage you to evict your tenants for fish oo.

Merry Christmas all

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Fish4wealth: 4:17pm On Aug 20, 2017
robonski15:


Copied from another group::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Hello fellow farmers.
It is my pleasure to share with you my recent experience with fish fraudulent buyers.
We had table size fish for sell, so I told my farm manager to make some few calls.
This particular bulk buyer had patronised us some few months ago.
When he eventually came, he bought from two of my ponds.
The sells ( kgs and no of fish) was worrisome. By my calculation we should realised more than what he paid for it.
He came again the second time, this time the manager was prepared(the manager already weighed a sample size average weight was 1kg).
Apparently 25 of the fishes should weigh 25kg but it was ranging between 18and 20kg. This raised suspicion and argument ensured. He left in anger haven realised he was being exposed.
My farm manager decided to check the scale for any foreign substances. He opened the scale, behold there was a tied particle board under the spring. This was a force holding the spring from moving pass 20kg. Any addition fish is not accounted for. The quantity that should give you 50kg will be reading 20kg.
From the initial sale to this fraudulent man, l lost about 150,000.
Farmers be warned. Some uses magnet.

1.on no account should the enter your pond.
2.they must not toubch your scale (this scenario was because they touch the scale. By evil invocation that item was transferred into the scale)
3. Scale your fish ready for sale. By this you already know your kgs
4. Get enough assistance. They can watch the buyers very closely
These people can run your business down.
Be vigilant. Good luck farmers.

The name of the man his Segun. Nos. 08068291816, 09058599322
He will bring a vehicle and tell you he buys as much as 800kg and above
Have also been a big victim of this, that I lost over 250 to 300 thousand cos he brought 300kg from me and the last time he came by then I have my own new scale,I allowed him scale his first 50kg and when I rescale his 50kg I was getting 96kg which I was confused and even went to another farm to get scale and it was still d same as 96kg
Buy a digital scale, its almost impossible to manoeuvre. Any fish buyer that refuses to use it is a thief.


My piece of advice, just bring out samples of your different sizes or the very size you intend to sell....insist the farm policy does not permit non staff into the pond. Never make mistake of using any of their materials for weighing...decide prior to their coming if you would allow sorting or not or better still, sort in advance

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 9:22pm On Aug 20, 2017
hisableplc:

on point bro i started dis biz majorly for melange.. I smoke dem.myself also
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by saheyijide(m): 7:45am On Aug 21, 2017
robonski15:


Which option did you use, at the long run sir..
@robonski15 sir, I later use option 1 & 2 because i already put salt in the water on Saturday since that is easier to get. Then the next day Sunday i put the poultry waste in sac and I left it in the pond for 4days before flushing the water, cleaning the pond with just fume and water on Thursday then pumping fresh water into the pond from same day to Friday after cleaning.
I just stock my pond with post fingerlings of six weeks old yesterday and I added soda ash into the water few minutes before putting the fingerlings to help eliminate stress of transporting. I didn't feed them until this morning. But I observed some of the fingerlings are dead in the first pond I counted close to 10 and in the second pond about 4. This mortality number is a concern to me as a newbies in the business. Pls kindle advice is highly needed urgently
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 1:28pm On Aug 21, 2017
robonski15:


The least you should is three making 1kg your aim should be getting 0.5grms i.e two making 1kg.

Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by eventsaloud: 1:41pm On Aug 21, 2017
Please call 'Tunde on 08056145926 or Dammy on 08057041168 to place your orders for fresh Melange & Table size catfish for homes, caterers, hotels, restaurants and bars especially in Lagos and Ogun state (for now).

We look forward to a wonderful relationship together and success for all concerned.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 5:30pm On Aug 21, 2017
robonski15:
MELANGE FISH FARMING

Melange fish farming is one of the most profitable business in catfish farming.. I will be writing in clear and simple english for all to understand..

Melange farming takes 2 and half or 3 months from fingerlings stage to harvest.. Unlike table size fish that last 5months with heavy feeding..

The actuall weight of melange for harvest should be from 300 gramms to 500 gramms... So in a pond that can accomodate a thousand table size of 1kg it will accomodate a thousand five hundred melange or a bit higher... One interesting thing about melange is that you spend less and harvest at three month unlike table size that start eating heavily at the 3rd month till harvest.. To be continued..

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 6:22pm On Aug 21, 2017
robonski15:
interesting. .. Is delivery based on quantity purchased?

Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 6:22pm On Aug 21, 2017
robonski15:
interesting. .. Is delivery based on quantity purchased?

Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 6:22pm On Aug 21, 2017
robonski15:
interesting. .. Is delivery based on quantity purchased?

Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 6:23pm On Aug 21, 2017
Etranshub:


1mm 48% cp, 2mm 45%, 3mm 42%, 4mm 6mm and 8mm 40% prices defer with sizes
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by petitmonde(m): 10:39am On Aug 22, 2017
Tbagwell1:
1. Buy ur own scale, it not more than 5k
2. Never weigh more than 25kg @a time.
3. Do they weighing by yourself for yourself, if you have spent a lot of money and energy feeding your fish 4 5months then I don't see a reason y you shldnt finish up the Good work.

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