50calibre:


Wait! Are you trying to preach to me about Jesus Christ? Because even Jesus himself casted out a legion of demons from a man and they went into a swine ( herd of pigs) so I don't understand your point.

FutureDon: As a Neuroscientist, I strongly assert that religion has no place in science. Further, the aspect of neuroscience concerned with brain activities and religious practices (Neurotheology) is somewhat confused about its subject matter.

However, I think it depends on individual's religious and cultural beliefs. For instance, you would hardly see an nonreligious 'oyinbo' attributing the cause of his/her neurological illness to a demonic attack.

In conclusion, religion (religious activities) is sorrowfully exaggerated in our dear country.

FutureDon: As a Neuroscientist, I strongly assert that religion has no place in science. Further, the aspect of neuroscience concerned with brain activities and religious practices (Neurotheology) is somewhat confused about its subject matter.

However, I think it depends on individual's religious and cultural beliefs. For instance, you would hardly see an nonreligious 'oyinbo' attributing the cause of his/her neurological illness to a demonic attack.

In conclusion, religion (religious activities) is sorrowfully exaggerated in our dear country.

Lanrefahm: another question, we all know GOD is the one charge of all things dat angels cant do what he does and is very powerful my question is this, u claim dat jesus is GOD and he died 4 three days so whenhe died 4 three days who was in charge

50calibre:

No it was called for. maybe bringing up his mum was a bit crass but I used it to buttress my point. He answers his own questions regarding me unequivocally and with certainty and he doesn't even know me. Is he a magician?

People make unguarded statements and loose talk, statements they can't back up when called upon to walk the talk. The guy should learn to say only what he is sure of and learn to put his money where his mouth is.

Olodostein:

I said your post struck a real balance...

Ahh ! I know you are radical for Jesus... Farabaleeh ! your blood too dey hot ...




Baseless assertion.If scientists go beyond their boundaries, they will cause great havoc and perhaps extinct humans. There should be a balance, that is all.

You sabi pass Albert Einstein ? One of the greatest scientist in Human history.

Besides, why can't psychiatrists cure all the psycho's going postal in the USA, shooting down people every now and then. To cure mental cases, you have to renew the spirit and how do you do that? Drugs all your life?

Jesus Christ said, 'come, all you that are heavy laden and I will give you rest'.

50calibre:

No it was called for. maybe bringing up his mum was a bit crass but I used it to buttress my point. He answers his own questions regarding me unequivocally and with certainty and he doesn't even know me. Is he a magician?

People make unguarded statements and loose talk, statements they can't back up when called upon to walk the talk. The guy should learn to say only what he is sure of and learn to put his money where his mouth is.

Name a price and I'll take you on..

If you can show us here a picture of you holding any of the following:

1. A Ouiji Board

2. The 6th & 7th Books of Moses

3. A Voodoo doll

For each one you show us here, I will remit 50,000 Naira into ur account. Show all and get 200,000.

Nuff said..

P.S: On the issue of my mother, what can I say... There is no point stooping down to your level to play like that.

ijeoma100: "Demonic afflictions" are just words made up by the ignorant to describe a medical condition that they haven't a clue about. Because a doctor can't diagnose/cure a disease doesn't mean it's caused by demons - medical science has never claimed to know everything and death and disease are inevitabilities of life.

The only reason why "demons" are so rampant in Nigeria is because religion prospers when people are afraid and the church coffers grow fat. The myth is continually being spread by ruthless "men of God" and is hungrily being lapped up by gullible Nigerians.

If the health service in Nigeria was better and doctors were more able to diagnose and treat, then all this nonsense about demonic afflictions and all the other types of superstitious garbage would've been a thing of the past.

Olodostein:

Baseless assertion.If scientists go beyond their boundaries, they will cause great havoc and perhaps extinct humans. There should be a balance, that is all.

You sabi pass Albert Einstein ? One of the greatest scientist in Human history.

Besides, why can't psychiatrists cure all the psycho's going postal in the USA, shooting down people every now and then. To cure mental cases, you have to renew the spirit and how do you do that? Drugs all your life?

Jesus Christ said, 'come, all you that are heavy laden and I will give you rest'.

ijeoma100: "Demonic afflictions" are just words made up by the ignorant to describe a medical condition that they haven't a clue about. Because a doctor can't diagnose/cure a disease doesn't mean it's caused by demons - medical science has never claimed to know everything and death and disease are inevitabilities of life.

The only reason why "demons" are so rampant in Nigeria is because religion prospers when people are afraid and the church coffers grow fat. The myth is continually being spread by ruthless "men of God" and is hungrily being lapped up by gullible Nigerians.

If the health service in Nigeria was better and doctors were more able to diagnose and treat, then all this nonsense about demonic afflictions and all the other types of superstitious garbage would've been a thing of the past.

50calibre:

You are a neuroscientist? Wow! I have a lot of respect for neuroscientists. I had a delicate brain surgery last year and I got to see first hand the indispensablity of neuro medical practitioners.

Yea a proud one still receiving advanced training though. I hope you have been able to recuperate? I agree with you, the field of neuroscience is interestingly complicated.

ijeoma100: "Demonic afflictions" are just words made up by the ignorant to describe a medical condition that they haven't a clue about. Because a doctor can't diagnose/cure a disease doesn't mean it's caused by demons - medical science has never claimed to know everything and death and disease are inevitabilities of life.

The only reason why "demons" are so rampant in Nigeria is because religion prospers when people are afraid and the church coffers grow fat. The myth is continually being spread by ruthless "men of God" and is hungrily being lapped up by gullible Nigerians.

If the health service in Nigeria was better and doctors were more able to diagnose and treat, then all this nonsense about demonic afflictions and all the other types of superstitious garbage would've been a thing of the past.

FutureDon:

Based on the tone of your post (directed at me), it appears you want to engage in a verbal battle with me. Also, I don't argue with people who sees religion as everything.

You talked about renewing spirit, with a reference to US shootings. Are you saying spiritual renewal puts an end to all forms of psych/neurological disorders including anatomical impairments in the brain?

You need a serious lecture on mind/body dualism. This is not the right thread to do that as I wouldn't want to derail it.

stankezzy: in japan,usa,britain,germany,france.even canada,there is nothing anybody from africa will be organizing over there ,be it comedians,musicians or any other thing that will make these white people ,attend in numbers.you will only see fellow africans nd latinos.but why is it that with their science nd wisdon, nd talk against religion still they troupe out en-mass when ever big african man of God like pastor chris,adeboye;duncan williams from ghana.visits
ANSWER-because they have found out that there is limitation to science.
if oyibo with their knowledge believes,who are u with ur minor B.....

Lanrefahm: another question, we all know GOD is the one charge of all things dat angels cant do what he does and is very powerful my question is this, u claim dat jesus is GOD and he died 4 three days so whenhe died 4 three days who was in charge

babanne:
You see, that is one major area where christendom had got it wrong. in fact, they have misled many with that doctrine equating jesus with god. but true christians know that jesus is not god. as a matter of fact, there is nowhere that the bible says jesus is god. so when jesus was on earth and when he died, god was in heaven, in charge.thats why when jesus was on earth he prayed to his father in heaven who was in charge.

FutureDon:

Yea a proud one still receiving advanced training though. I hope you have been able to recuperate? I agree with you, the field of neuroscience is interestingly complicated.

Olodostein:

I am learning to be succinct buddy . Did you see this documentary on Aljezzera; indian hospitals ? One of the best surgeons in India - he was Mother Thereasa's Dr - said that religion and science works hand in hand. I am not religious, I work in a field that is very logical in solving problems. Now, it can be misinforming to hear Scientists take credit or perhaps discard what they don't fundamentally understand.

I used the US as an example because of the rising shootings there which has more to do with neurological issues as they are claiming; perhaps it has more to do with seeds of discontent.

My point is; Science and Religion should be balanced for optimum result..

I liked your well reasoned response . I've not seen that documentary but would try to look it up.

@bolded, I partly agree with you. Although I'm not trying to contradict my previous assertions, it sometimes difficult to completely separate science from religion. Take for example the relationship between (brain trauma, Out-of-body experience and religion) or (Parkinson disease vs religiosity).

Another point to note is that most religious experiences are based on individual's account which makes it scientifically unjustifiable. Until there is a universal paradigm to assess religious experiences, that 'wide gap' won't cease to exist.

I think the relationship (if any) between science and religion is an enigma waiting to be demystified

Okija_juju:

Name a price and I'll take you on..

If you can show us here a picture of you holding any of the following:

1. A Ouiji Board

2. The 6th & 7th Books of Moses

3. A Voodoo doll

For each one you show us here, I will remit 50,000 Naira into ur account. Show all and get 200,000.

Nuff said..

P.S: On the issue of my mother, what can I say... There is no point stooping down to your level to play like that.

musKeeto: Edit:
Morning everyone,
I wouldn't like to derail the sleep paralysis thread.

I'm no medical student, neither do I claim to have more than basic knowledge of common neurological terms. Hopefully, I'll learn a bit from this thread..

Considering most of the religious' stance on the aforecited thread, I have a few questions I would like answered:

Do you belive any form of neurological disease can be caused by demons/evil spirits?
Is there any way to tell if a stroke for example is caused by a demonic attack or fatigue?


Okay, make that 2

FutureDon:

I liked your well reasoned response . I've not seen that documentary but would try to look it up.

@bolded, I partly agree with you. Although I'm not trying to contradict my previous assertions, it sometimes difficult to completely separate science from religion. Take for example the relationship between (brain trauma, Out-of-body experience and religion) or (Parkinson disease vs religiosity).

Another point to note is that most religious experiences are based on individual's account which makes it scientifically unjustifiable. Until there is a universal paradigm to assess religious experiences, that 'wide gap' won't cease to exist.

I think the relationship (if any) between science and religion is an enigma waiting to be demystified

“Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality. When we recognize our place in an immensity of light‐years and in the passage of ages, when we grasp the intricacy, beauty, and subtlety of life, then that soaring feeling, that sense of elation and humility combined, is surely spiritual. So are our emotions in the presence of great art or music or literature, or acts of exemplary selfless courage such as those of Mohandas Gandhi or Martin Luther King, Jr. The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both.”

50calibre: Don't waste your wager, you would lose it.

50calibre:

... go into a mystic book store and buy voodoo or 7 Books of Moses or any other mystic book or you could even buy an ouija board game, play it and then come back, lets discuss.

Beretta92: @ futuredon,u an atheist?

okemmadu: Another question: Can sickness be healed by having faith in the Word of God?

In fact, Can the Word of God produce any significant effect?