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On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 5:55am On Apr 04, 2013 |
Edit: Morning everyone, I wouldn't like to derail the sleep paralysis thread. I'm no medical student, neither do I claim to have more than basic knowledge of common neurological terms. Hopefully, I'll learn a bit from this thread.. Considering most of the religious' stance on the aforecited thread, I have a few questions I would like answered: Do you belive any form of neurological disease can be caused by demons/evil spirits? Is there any way to tell if a stroke for example is caused by a demonic attack or fatigue? Okay, make that 2 |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Lanrefahm(m): 6:16am On Apr 04, 2013 |
another question, we all know GOD is the one charge of all things dat angels cant do what he does and is very powerful my question is this, u claim dat jesus is GOD and he died 4 three days so whenhe died 4 three days who was in charge 1 Like |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by mumumugu(m): 6:55am On Apr 04, 2013 |
musKeeto: Morning Rey,when there iis no diagnosis .when doctor cant detect the cause |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 8:41am On Apr 04, 2013 |
musKeeto: Morning Rey,I will try as much as possible here to be direct. 1. I wouldn't want to sound condescending, but I have to be blunt with you. Your question number one is wrong. Muskeeto, the thing is, the moment anything is 'neurological' in operation, the question of being caused by a demon is unnecessary. It is like asking if Rickets can be as a result of the lack of Fats and oil. 2. To begin with, their has to be a focal point disturbance to the spinal cord exceeding 24hours, before we can say that that which is caused is stroke. So long we can explain stroke in this sense, as in, within the comfines of how the body anatomy works, phisiology, the stroke is scientific. But when we can only suggest that which we termed stroke is supernaturally induced, when it doesn't follow the normal pathogenesis. 1 Like |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 8:47am On Apr 04, 2013 |
Hmmm.. Question 1: Can demonic afflictions mimic neurological diseases? How do you differentiate both? Question 2: I really don't get your answer. Are you saying that any symptoms or illnesses that go beyond the purview of current medical knowledge can be ascribed to be spiritual? Btw, if my questions are wrong, feel free to point them out. No harm done. |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 9:04am On Apr 04, 2013 |
musKeeto: Hmmm..This dude! 1. I don't understand why it has to be demonic for you. That aside, their is also another problem, my bro. What do you mean by demonic aflictions? Because to differentiate, I have to understand what I'm deviating from. 2. Spiritual? You're seriously trying to put words into my mouth. What I can tell you here is that any termed disease which doesn't follow its natural occuring pattern but transcends it, is supernatural. 1 Like |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 9:29am On Apr 04, 2013 |
End of thread. No further questions from me. |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by dorox(m): 9:49am On Apr 04, 2013 |
musKeeto: End of thread. No further questions from me.Reyginus is not interested in answering you simple questions, he is only wants to convince himself that he won the argument. |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by mazaje(m): 10:38am On Apr 04, 2013 |
Of course they have to believe that demons and evil spirit causes disease. . .Even in the bible all diseases are attributed to demons and evil spirits as the cause . .When ever a person is reported to be ill in most pats of the bible, evil spirits are claimed to be the cause, not micro organisms or organ and system failure. . . |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 1:47pm On Apr 04, 2013 |
dorox:lol, ihedinobstyle |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 3:02pm On Apr 04, 2013 |
musKeeto: End of thread. No further questions from me.If you so wish. |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Kay17: 4:00pm On Apr 04, 2013 |
mumumugu: when there iis no diagnosis .when doctor cant detect the cause Regardless of the doctor's knowledge and skill? And how do you defend against the God of Gaps theory |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Image123(m): 5:19pm On Apr 04, 2013 |
Yes to both questions in the op and that's all. |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 10:49pm On Apr 04, 2013 |
musKeeto: Yawn! When have I joined you guys in muscle-flexing? On another matter, are we ever gonna discuss C S Lewis's book? I'm still waiting on you, you know. 1 Like |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 7:43am On Apr 05, 2013 |
Ihedinobi:My apologies. Could you give me some time? Just downloaded the book, and this month up to the 3rd week of June would be a busy period for me... |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 7:54am On Apr 05, 2013 |
Image123: Yes to both questions in the op and that's all. As you are usually not up for any reasonable discussions (due to deep ignorance or inability to reason beyond 2 feet of a Bible), I'd share this story with you just in case you are not aware. It's the dangers of believing and being scared of shit that can neither be determined nor have any logical explanations.. The Bubonic Plague History - recorded for our learning.. Compare with our current Nigerian situation and tell yourself the truth. No matter our religious/non religious beliefs, we can't keep blaming government. Unlike China and some other countries, our access to internet is not restricted. When answers are provided for scary phenomena, we should not just cast them away because they do not fit into our 'spiritual' knowledge... Anyways, how we go do? This world is not your own abi? |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 8:11am On Apr 05, 2013 |
dorox:How some of our so-called 'intelligent' atheists think. How can one win an argument which is yet to take a solid foundation when it's not even all about winning? |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 8:13am On Apr 05, 2013 |
mazaje: Of course they have to believe that demons and evil spirit causes disease. . .Even in the bible all diseases are attributed to demons and evil spirits as the cause . .When ever a person is reported to be ill in most pats of the bible, evil spirits are claimed to be the cause, not micro organisms or organ and system failure. . .Lol. Leave the bible alone and address the topic. |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by cyrexx: 11:02am On Apr 05, 2013 |
^^ Reygie, the new Anony. You have mastered how to dodge artfully. Where did you get your idea/belief that demons cause those things, if not from the bible. |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Walexz02(m): 11:28am On Apr 05, 2013 |
Uhmmm! This questions are not answerd the way they should.....and that is the problem with chriastian folks, instead of them to give you answers to your questions, they continue beating around the bush...smh! |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 11:32am On Apr 05, 2013 |
Walexz02: Uhmmm! You're Muslim, right? Feel free to answer. I'll edit the topic.. |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 11:42am On Apr 05, 2013 |
Reyginus: I will try as much as possible here to be direct.Funny now I read it for the second time.... Lol |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 11:50am On Apr 05, 2013 |
By the way, this thread might go a long way to confirm suspicions I've had for some time. Satan is just a bad guy. Little is known about him, or his role, as well as his legion of demons, on Earth. From the Christian pov, its much easier to argue the existence of God than discuss his counterpart/rebel Satan. Satan is just an excuse for our deviation from God's supposed will. Is Satan God's alter ego? Can He gain access to the human mind just like God? |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by ijeoma100: 12:16pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
"Demonic afflictions" are just words made up by the ignorant to describe a medical condition that they haven't a clue about. Because a doctor can't diagnose/cure a disease doesn't mean it's caused by demons - medical science has never claimed to know everything and death and disease are inevitabilities of life. The only reason why "demons" are so rampant in Nigeria is because religion prospers when people are afraid and the church coffers grow fat. The myth is continually being spread by ruthless "men of God" and is hungrily being lapped up by gullible Nigerians. If the health service in Nigeria was better and doctors were more able to diagnose and treat, then all this nonsense about demonic afflictions and all the other types of superstitious garbage would've been a thing of the past. 7 Likes |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by cyrexx: 1:15pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
ijeoma100: "Demonic afflictions" are just words made up by the ignorant to describe a medical condition that they haven't a clue about. Because a doctor can't diagnose/cure a disease doesn't mean it's caused by demons - medical science has never claimed to know everything and death and disease are inevitabilities of life. GBAM! The nail has finally been hit on the head. |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Richieboyn: 1:41pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
Shallow thinking... |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 3:28pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
neurological diseases are neurological diseases. And demonic attacks are demonic attacks. Those are two different things. 4 Likes |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by FXKing2012(m): 3:29pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
musKeeto:Demons attack people with all sorts of evil such as accidents, failures, diseases, sicknesses, etc etc which is why we need to be close to God in order to remain immune to the devil's attacks. Remember "we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers, and rulers of darkness, in high places..." |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by Nobody: 3:29pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
No joke here! I studied demonlogy and learnt how to summon a demon of the 72 geotia spirits named amy/avnas.... Err, in all I believe demons are in charge of certain mishaps! N.B- I'm a christian o! Jst a really curious person |
Re: On Demonic Afflictions by iamswizz(m): 3:32pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
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Re: On Demonic Afflictions by FXKing2012(m): 3:33pm On Apr 05, 2013 |
carr96:I'm sorry to break it to you but you are already possessed. 2 Likes |
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