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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Kslib(m): 12:31pm On Apr 17, 2013
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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Nobody: 1:13pm On Apr 17, 2013
kekerazi: Wat an interesting and educative thread on NL..@OP GOD BLESS YOU. @Mz Sleek,Wat your doing in that school must be commended.But I must say its wrong- Teaching T/D.I'm sure you were allowed to teach T/D because of the Lack of teachers in that subject..(I said what your doing is wrong because u might not be competent enough to impact the necessary knowledge of Technical. Drawing) I might still be wrong Though....BUT KEEP IT UP.. @OP I think we should try to Follow our passion Not our Pension..dats exactly what Mz sleeq is doing ryt now.In Nigeria,its usually the monetary incentive.
s dat makes either the child or parents choose a particular course..
@kekeraz,don't worry,I'm not followin my passion @ d detriment of the students.I have an HOD that studied technical drawing and he also teaches higher classes.he goes through my notes and drawings,and he also corrects me.so,the students are perfectly safe.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by yamakuza: 1:24pm On Apr 17, 2013
~ZN~:


Really, I wonder why your "oga" would say that. So you just jump into the Uni and study sociology then realize that you'd like to do an MSc Engineering, is that it?

Most of these students are supposed to plan their careers from High School days - too bad Career Guide counselors are not available in many institutions.

The trend I tend to see in Nigeria is rushing into the University with whatever course takes them in - it's almost as if emphasis is placed on "getting in" rather than following your passions/interests.

Heck, I wonder if some of these folks even do any research on Employability Prospects before jumping on a course.


lol! not that wide a turn, but if possible, why not?

others have explained better what i meant, eg :

ooseven: Very few people knew what they wanted to become when they were college students. They had dreams but rarely a clear cut road map.


AJ: My nephew who is 17 is just getting ready to go to university. He's chosen psychology as a major.
He says he really wants to be a journalist, but has no desire to be frustrated by JAMB trying to get into the Mass Communication program at UNILAG. He'd rather do something he feels is interesting, since he knows he can always do something else after his first degree if he wants.

He preferred to keep his options open and not put himself under pressure. I had no choice but to admire his decision.

ochukoccna: @ op,most Nigerians discover themselves (if they do so on time) and plot a chart suited to their skill sets after their BSc
Your nephew is blessed that at 17,he has that chart
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by TonySpike: 1:28pm On Apr 17, 2013
tensazangetsu: Op blame the government nigeria does not have enough universities for its population and who is that person that said china does not have enough universities china has over 1000 universities and the best university in china hong kong university of science and technology is one of the best in the world its among the top 30 their maritime college is another asians don't joke with their education that's why they are where they are today.

I don't agree with the bolded. I am surprised that nobody has mentioned the real problem. As far as I'm concerned, Nigeria isn't a knowledge-based society, as simple as ABC. Do we realise that Nigeria supplies manpower for other functional societies? A dysfunctional society like ours disregard fields like Physics and Chemistry because we are backward and archaic. We have refused to grow our society to be as diverse as possible. A diverse society has use for many disciplines, which are useful for enhancing the societies capability. For example, a scourge such as Boko-Haram requires the services of a wide array of professionals from different disciplines to tackle. My opinion is that Nigeria as a society is disorganised and reeks of mediocrity. We need to grow up as a society.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Lamasta(m): 1:56pm On Apr 17, 2013
With God all things are possible, with money all things are answerable...
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by viruz007(m): 1:58pm On Apr 17, 2013
IYA NGBALI: yes now,fool blooded lecture

I don't do this but mehn dude or lady chill na... ur Gbaguan don too much grin cheesy grin grin grin undecided cry
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by viruz007(m): 1:59pm On Apr 17, 2013
Hope49ja: A Recruiter's Perspective:

As an Nigerian International Recruiter, it saddens me to see our brothers and sisters wasting money to do a million and one degrees and certificates which will get them nowhere, especially in the UK.

1) For many people who made mistakes in their secondary school or university choices, it can be corrected. Think of internships or volunteering, even if it is for free. Work experience generally is given preference, especially for non-technical roles.
2) For those studying in the UK, think twice before spending thousands of pounds/dollars or millions of naira on further education. Many of you will be better of investing the money and reaping the benefit if you have business management and development skills.
3) For those planning to further their education abroad, please remember that lots of things have changed over the last 5-10 years. It is now extremely difficult to get a proper job in Europe and America (especially). You will be competing with natives with the law and background fully on their side.
4) For many courses, it is a lot more beneficial to have some experience before furthering your education. The more education and certification you get the more specialist and expensive you become. Ultimately, the less attractive you are for a graduate role.
5) For engineering/technically inclined high/secondary school students, consider studying a broad degree, then decide on a specialisation afterwards. For instance do a BSc in Electrical Engineering and later specialise in Computer Engineering, Energy-related degrees or anything else that you are interested in. It gives you four/five years to figure out what you really like, but also a platform to switch easily in the future.. This is particularly so as the economic and industrial situation of a country may change in your lifetime (or your country location) may change and you want to be in a position to switch to something else that is relevant and of interest to you in the future if needed.

All the best!!!

I could not agree more with this post. Straight to the frigging point. Especially points 2 and 4. I keep on telling my college friends this but they don't want to listen cry cry . God dey sha.

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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by stan241(m): 2:03pm On Apr 17, 2013
in this day and age nobody wants to sit at home for even one extra minute after sec school...try coming from an average home and barely managing to get a jamb form and by his grace u are given a course at least close to what u want and tell me u won't accept such admission...the average jambite in this time will fill in a course he fills will attract less crowd just to get in except of course u have over 80k to sort your preferred course of study.. simply put,the country is messed up
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Egbagirl(f): 2:46pm On Apr 17, 2013
AjanleKoko:

I missed this post earlier. I presume you're still in school?
I am not sure forcing yourself to do Biochemistry is even an option, considering you couldn't cope with Economics. cheesy
Just kidding tho.

I would say don't count yourself out yet. If your goal is to make money, who says you can't do something as out-there as fashion design or events planning? You can take some courses in the area that interests you. Someone like Tara Durotoye is making millions from makeup!

If your goal, as you said, is to go into social work, then money should not even be in the picture (though of course you will get paid for your work, just not investment-bank kind of money).

Whichever it is, don't worry too much. If you had the strong desire and drive (and discipline) to study economics or maybe biochem, you probably would have stayed with it. I know some people who were in my class in uni, and were failing horribly in engineering, but refused to drop out due to pride and societal pressure. Many of them ended up with extra years and barely passing grades. Eventually they had to seek other ways to make a living/alternative career path. The degrees they ended up with after many torrid years rendered them basically unemployable.

It's too late for me now. Lol. I'm done with undergrad in about 3 weeks. I'm happy I chose the majors I did and I never had any reason to rethink it until recently and even with that, it's just the pressure of the job search that's taking its toll. I def would have failed out of college if I had done any science subject lol.

But it's like you already know! I'm still sticking to the not-for-profit industry but I also have a few other personal interests.

Sadly, not eveyone can do the same. Not eveyone can withstand that pressure to get a well paying job cause to be frank, life is crazy! It's like doing what you have to do whether you like it or not
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by chic2007: 2:51pm On Apr 17, 2013
Ezekwesiri04: Nigerian system have made education not to be attractive,eduction or no eduction , the aim is to leave a good confortable life!, i spent 5 yrs in the university and plus 1 yr NYSC, got a job in a firm that is owned by my sec school who enterd business after we finished secondary school, now am still trying to start up life while he is already married with 3 children and leave in his own house. So tell me who haves a success story to tell

You actually went to University with this sort of English? shocked Please, tell, what University? shocked. You need to ask for a refund of your fees for secondary school and university cheesy
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Fhemmmy: 2:56pm On Apr 17, 2013
Interesting thread, and i think there are lots of things that make this happen:
1. Peer pressure, when you see a friend that you went to school together and now in University, pressure is now on the other to secure an admission, by so doing will accept anything.
2. Boast of the parent: a parent wanna brag of their kids being at the university and cos a child see him or herself as a failure if not able to raise the ego of the parent's bragging right.
3. Our education system: JME is not a true test of ability or even knowledge.
4. Our Leaders inability to leader right and help the kids in choosing a path in life, most parents dont even know what their kids are good at.
5. Trial and Error, cos most kids dont even know what path will lead them to the light of progress.

So sad but factual.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Egbagirl(f): 3:01pm On Apr 17, 2013
Fhemmmy: Interesting thread, and i think there are lots of things that make this happen:
1. Peer pressure, when you see a friend that you went to school together and now in University, pressure is now on the other to secure an admission, by so doing will accept anything.
2. Boast of the parent: a parent wanna brag of their kids being at the university and cos a child see him or herself as a failure if not able to raise the ego of the parent's bragging right.
3. Our education system: JME is not a true test of ability or even knowledge.
4. Our Leaders inability to leader right and help the kids in choosing a path in life, most parents dont even know what their kids are good at.
5. Trial and Error, cos most kids dont even know what path will lead them to the light of progress.

So sad but factual.

Pls educate me because I don't really understand what you mean by nos 3 and 4.
3. It's normal to take a standardized exam to enter any school unless you are referring to the quality of the exam?
4. How exactly do the leaders play a role in choosing a person's career?

Gracias! smiley
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Fhemmmy: 3:05pm On Apr 17, 2013
Egba girl:

Pls educate me because I don't really understand what you mean by nos 3 and 4.
3. It's normal to take a standardized exam to enter any school unless you are referring to the quality of the exam?
4. How exactly do the leaders play a role in choosing a person's career?

Gracias! smiley

No 4: It is not the exam parse but the quality of the exam, if we could have a society that we are so sure that people dont have to pay to get it and we are sure that it is a fair table for the deal to all that are concerned.

No 5. Leader not as in Jonathan not the govt, your parents are leaders in your household as well, so that is what i mean, not as in the govt.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by chic2007: 3:08pm On Apr 17, 2013
IYA NGBALI: @ op you are right,I studies yoruba in the university,but today I lecturer english in one of our higher institutes

You teach English? You must be kidding grin

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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Fhemmmy: 3:11pm On Apr 17, 2013
Lamasta: With God all things are possible, with money all things are answerable...

That has always been the illness that is killing Nigeria . . . But please dont get me wrong, i am guilty of that as well oh, meaning we make sure all doors are left open cos of MONEY, sad but true, so what happened to those that has no money, they become our doormat? cry
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Egbagirl(f): 3:16pm On Apr 17, 2013
Fhemmmy:

No 4: It is not the exam parse but the quality of the exam, if we could have a society that we are so sure that people dont have to pay to get it and we are sure that it is a fair table for the deal to all that are concerned.

No 5. Leader not as in Jonathan not the govt, your parents are leaders in your household as well, so that is what i mean, not as in the govt.

Oh okay. Gotchu! I agree with the exam thing and yes parents play a very important role in developing a child talents and all and ensuring that they have a well-rounded education. That way, when the kid gets to college, she/he already knows herself/himself, what their interests are, their strengths and weaknesses, and what they are capable of doing.

Now it's back to a good educational system, which we are lacking
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Fhemmmy: 3:18pm On Apr 17, 2013
Egba girl:

Oh okay. Gotchu! I agree with the exam thing and yes parents play a very important role in developing a child talents and all and ensuring that they have a well-rounded education. That way, when the kid gets to college, she/he already knows herself/himself, what their interests are, their strengths and weaknesses, and what they are capable of doing.

Now it's back to a good educational system, which we are lacking

Yes, sir and can you imagine how much Nigeria will be saving if we have a good educational system, imagine how much is spent sending kids to school out of the nation . . . SAD.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Egbagirl(f): 3:24pm On Apr 17, 2013
Fhemmmy:

Yes, sir and can you imagine how much Nigeria will be saving if we have a good educational system, imagine how much is spent sending kids to school out of the nation . . . SAD.

I totally agree! The brain drain is getting worse.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Fhemmmy: 3:27pm On Apr 17, 2013
Egba girl:

I totally agree! The brain drain is getting worse.

Not even only the brain drain, in Canada alone, the govt and the immigration are smiling cos Nigerian and their money are servicing the economy of the nation, so imagine same happening to the USA and other European nations and as a matter of fact, even Ghana is enjoying the money cos if you take the Nigerian students out of Ghana some of the universities there would go broke.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by chic2007: 3:36pm On Apr 17, 2013
This is the best thread I have come across on Nairaland. Best Ever! Thanks to the OP. I am a true example of this. I am a Lawyer by profession (I got called to the Bar over 24 years ago but I realised long ago that it is not something I enjoy). I got very good grades in University and Law School but I never liked the Course.

I studied it primarily because it was the way to go in my family. You either read Medicine or Law. I am just glad that I eventually followed my passion for Human Resource Management. This is my calling. I am definitely not going to make the same mistake with my kids. When my eldest daughter told me she wanted to read Medicine, I simply laughed and advised her to read something she had a passion for. I also guided her in terms of future careers viz a viz her strongest subjects. But at the end of the day, I made her understand that the choice was entirely hers!! I knew she had opted for Medicine because it would make her dad happy. Eventually, she ended up in the Social Sciences Stream... just goes to show!

As parents, we all know our children's strengths and weaknesses and we should guide and advice them along those lines. We should never compel or force children to study courses they have no passion for. This is why we find kids of today studying medicine for 6 years or more, graduate and open up fashion houses because that is their passion.

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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by sapien(m): 5:09pm On Apr 17, 2013
Wow, what an interesting thread!
My post will be kind of lengthy, though.

When I was in junior high school, I had passion for English and Social studies, but my dad, as an academia, forced me into science department, in my senior high school.

I was woeful in Chemistry, Mathematics and Further Mathematics, I barely managed to pass Physics, though.
My fellow classmates, who were underperforming like me, knew that science wasn't their calling, and with immediate alacrity, changed to Arts department.

At the end of the session in Ss1, one of them who changed, became the best student.
When I told my dad I wanted to change, he went on a tirade of words, which forced me to remain in science class, amidst poor results.

Fast forward to when I was seeking for admission, my dad forced me to study Architecture, just because his colleague's son was studying the course and doing well.
I got admission into a polytechnic, and at the end of my first year, I had had three carry overs, considering the fact I had no prior knowledge of T.D and my F.maths was poor.

With the help of my older cousins and some church members, I was able to convince my dad that Arcitecture wasn't my line, and that was after two years of academic fruitlessness in the polytechnic.

At age 24, after I had wasted like 6 years of my life, I realized I would be better in the social sciences, I sat for another Wassce and JME, blasted my result at a sitting, and got admission to study Sociology.

Though, I'm presently studying History and Diplomacy in one of the second generation Federal University, 200level, and that was due to wrong subject combination in UTME.

I don't have any regret, though, I'm relishing the course with every breath of me, and blazing the trail in my department as well.

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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Fhemmmy: 5:35pm On Apr 17, 2013
I think this is a thread for a lot of kids to read to be able to chose wisely a great future with passion for what they love too.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by ZenoHobbes: 6:31pm On Apr 17, 2013
Great Thread
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Nobody: 6:47pm On Apr 17, 2013
Enuf of philosophy:: only God knows who's goin towards d right direction
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Hope49ja: 7:02pm On Apr 17, 2013
viruz007:

I could not agree more with this post. Straight to the frigging point. Especially points 2 and 4. I keep on telling my college friends this but they don't want to listen cry cry . God dey sha.

Trust me, I review thousands of African CVs every year and it really breaks my heart to see that people are wasting so much money, but more importantly, time that they will never get back. Many of them come to the UK and they study 2 BScs, 3MScs and MBA and go on to do a PMP or CFA. Seriously, this is no exaggeration. I know some of them do so to buy time and eventually qualify for permanent residency, but many of them are really confused unfortunately. The same people that struggle to understand why a company like Total or Dangote would prefer someone with just a Chemical Engineering 1st degree and an MBA when they shortlist candidates for interviews.

Some people call to say 'I don't understand why I wasn't selected. I am more qualified than my selected course-mates/friend'. Unfortunately in the developed society and increasingly in the emerging markets, experience is what really counts 75% of the time.

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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by AjanleKoko: 8:18pm On Apr 17, 2013
Egba girl:

Sadly, not eveyone can do the same. Not eveyone can withstand that pressure to get a well paying job cause to be frank, life is crazy! It's like doing what you have to do whether you like it or not

Question is . . . what pressure?
A well-paying job is not guaranteed to anybody. If you like study anything you want, there's still a little bit of fortune (luck) that comes into play.

All told, it's better to do what you want to do, in my view.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Nobody: 10:01pm On Apr 17, 2013
[quote author=Tony Spike]

I don't agree with the bolded. I am surprised that nobody has mentioned the real problem. As far as I'm concerned, Nigeria isn't a knowledge-based society, as simple as ABC. Do we realise that Nigeria supplies manpower for other functional societies? A dysfunctional society like ours disregard fields like Physics and Chemistry because we are backward and archaic. My opinion is that Nigeria as a society is disorganised and reeks of mediocrity. We need to grow up as a society.[/w
well said....100% correct
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Nobody: 10:17pm On Apr 17, 2013
Egba girl:

I totally agree! The brain drain is getting worse.
yes it will get very worse... naija dont appreciate or encourage education, scientific research, infact they have a phobia for anything scientific, twaz by chance Dr ZoOlogisT became mr preSidenT. this our kon3 is very stubborn. pardon my english...the pastime of evry livin soul there is to CHOP MONEY, how to chop they dont tell.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Egbagirl(f): 10:20pm On Apr 17, 2013
Aggrippa:
yes it will get very worse... naija dont appreciate or encourage education, scientific research, infact they have a phobia for anything scientific, twaz by chance Dr ZoOlogisT became mr preSidenT. this our kon3 is very stubborn. pardon my english...the pastime of evry livin soul there is to CHOP MONEY, how to chop they dont tell.

It's said that the infrastructure for educational development is not in place and that our system does not encourage education achievements.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by esere826: 3:59am On Apr 18, 2013
AjanleKoko: I think, generally speaking about Nigerians, that young people in college, as well as those trying to get into college, more often choose the wrong disciplines to major in.

Wrong as in what they are not suited for, both mentally and psychologically. They now spend the rest of their youth trying to correct this mistake, and usually end up adding to it.

There is also the 'overload' factor. Take for example someone who studied Bachelor of Engineering, Master of Engineering, and MBA as a follow-up. Usually people do this to 'enhance their job prospects'. I wonder if it really does. I know someone who did that, still did ICAN and some computer certifications into the bargain. I'm not sure what good so many diverse qualifications can do to anyone.

Either peer pressure, zero counselling ...............

Why u dey curse me naw?

Ok, lets try this:
An elder once told me that if i enjoy reading
I could as well get certifications for what I have read and already know
I have not regretted taking on this advise

ICAN + IT certifications (knowledge) is cool if you wanna build accouting applications

The secret lies in 'dragging and dropping' the right certifications for the appropriate job opening

Some recruiters hate people like us
Some love us to bits
Me, as a contractor, I love the flexibility that multiple knowledge and its certifications offer me
one door closes another one opens

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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Hope49ja: 8:45am On Apr 18, 2013
esere826:

Why u dey curse me naw?

Ok, lets try this:
An elder once told me that if i enjoy reading
I could as well get certifications for what I have read and already know
I have not regretted taking on this advise

ICAN + IT certifications (knowledge) is cool if you wanna build accouting applications

The secret lies in 'dragging and dropping' the right certifications for the appropriate job opening

Some recruiters hate people like us
Some love us to bits
Me, as a contractor, I love the flexibility that multiple knowledge and its certifications offer me
one door closes another one opens


Having multiple certificates is not the problem. Adapting them to the different roles you are applying for and backing them them with relevant experience if required is where a lot of people get it wrong. People do not realise that there are certain times to downplay some skills and certificates and times when the same should be highlighted.

My advice to any applicant is to try to put themselves in the employer's shoes, even if it is for just a second. For instance if there are 200 qualified applicants for a position and a company is looking for a fresh graduate, another way to make a shortlist from the pool is to select BSc/BA/BEng + MSc/MA/MEng holders only as opposed to people with additional and some times not directly relevant certificates. In this case, I would recommend downplaying any certificate that is not directly relevant to the role.

Having multiple certificates can be an advantage, but can also be a disadvantage, depending on how you "package" yourself throughout each recruitment process.

All the best.

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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by gudugudumeje: 9:33am On Apr 18, 2013
There are no wrong courses of study in the Universities.

There are only wrong, unendowed faculties, colleges, NUC members and professors who cannot know what its takes are that first degrees are not necessarily meant to be awarded within the walls of the universities, especially if not in the sciences.

For instance, Fafunwa made the great mistake of 6-3-3-4;...... OBJ followed it with uniformization of education and NUC / Okebukola /OBJ followed it with the mistake of private univs; when all that is needed are Tutorial Colleges System wrapped in a Council for National Academic Award (CNAA)-type of the Western learned style of existing universities. Nigeria's is Africa's foolish type ad style.

These are supposed to be run by retired profs and teachers......and made to perfect themselves in the cottages or, venues before getting to become a univ. after many years of endowments from private hands who were allowed to rush to founding private univs.who are not getting shameful awarding bailable degrees. Nigeria's lack of social discipline will doom it all.....DOOM awaits Nigeria's univ. system and education soon.... PLS. WATCH out......

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