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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by DarryOsh(m): 8:41am On Apr 17, 2013
Piponomics:
No more studying anything that isn't Nursing,Medicine or Med lab in my house.
this is a very dangerous thing to say
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by mmmustapha(m): 8:44am On Apr 17, 2013
Oludrex:
Young fellow,Don't try to make us feel sorry for U.. Why didn't u score 300+ in your jamb? Or is it impossible??
u r nt serious
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by AjanleKoko: 8:46am On Apr 17, 2013
EMMAUGOH: Lets travel to India and learn from an Over-porpulated Country,where every Student is studying Medicine,every body want to be A doctor or A nurse,And i then Ask ,is it not working out for them.Let the President get sick tommorow ,u will hear he has been taken to India or so..Then i ask ,Do Nigerians dont have a talent to be developed by our Schools and institutions,we are here looking to the white men to teach us absolutely everything,how to sing,how to dance,how to dress,Clothes to where,how to pray religion.We behave as if we are noobs in this 21st century.But let me Admit we are not Noobs, for every heart has a desire,but those that are meant to make available resources to see this desire not to Grow Cold are busy Looting money and keeping it for thier unseen generation then Leaving the t people to take what they see.I know very well that what am going to study nown is not what my talent is but the truth is I have waited for years for the Various institution to thier Job so that i can study what i want but it turn out to be a Neglected desire..So i am into what i think can work at this very Moment...................Let Corruption Be Dealt With And The Right Thing will Be Done.

There's also serious corruption in India, mind you.
But I think Asians generally have far more drive than Africans/blacks. They usually can pass any exam. Nobody can hardly beat them in any hustle, be it legitimate business, career, or even crime.

Those hospitals in India are not owned by the Indian government, mind you. We just have to conclude that maybe Nigerian medical people are not as entrepreneurial as Indians. That might just be it.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by vowiski(m): 8:51am On Apr 17, 2013
Nigeria Education System is a Total mess..

I am a victim of this crazy and stupid over-reliance on a STUPID BS.C that can't give you Job and even if it does, can the Job guarantee you a life you crave?.

I did a Life Science course, out of parental pressure and stupid class-consciousness. Then I was young with improper orientation. But I was able to redefine my path, despite the BS.c, I managed to place myself where I should be. Today I am a webmaster, a blogger, and graphic designer and more.

How many people can re-kick their lives after the hopes of a BS.c becomes a frustration of Joblessness? After frustration comes fulfillment.

I always ask friends to start doing something, little drops of ocean makes an ocean. Or you can keep waiting for an imaginary jobs when 80% of allotted slots have been shared between family members and job buyers even before the fraudulent advertisement is sent for publication. I know you can argue that you might be among the 20%, but before then. GET A LIFE! START DOING SOMETHING! GOVERNMENT HAS NO PLAN FOR YOU!

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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Nobody: 8:52am On Apr 17, 2013
@Agrippa.I luv my dad.but that decision was way too harsh.plus there are no career guides in our schools.
@madcow.anytin that enables me draw lines,consider angles,curves,and sorts,just count me in.
Gud for you tho,u have the experience,and you are doing what you enjoy.
I'm servin now,and my principal is still surprised,why a chemistry graduate would choose to teach technical drawing over chemistry.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Idacrux: 9:06am On Apr 17, 2013
Mr.Uzo:


G.B.U -God bless you


Meanwhile hv go a puppy for sale. M travelling. Check my signature.
make him cum kill me for house.....kwan

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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Nobody: 9:08am On Apr 17, 2013
@ sleeq i feel your pain, all hope is not lost, i believe u can still take a shot at archi, if you want. most of the pple reading architecture in uni today are mostly those who are matured and have several certificate...i have a kid brother whom i mounted pressure on to read archi his passion and not settle for anything less...at 3rd year he has started getting jobs...now at final year 5th he is talking about goin solo!!!!
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by chessguru1(m): 9:09am On Apr 17, 2013
AjanleKoko:

First off, I never said it was the fault of the students.
In the first place, they're usually too young to know better. They either get pushed, or they just follow the crowd.
My post is made out of compassion, not criticism.

And as per government . . ., well, I think we should start from the first level of 'government' the kids know - their parents. It is at this point that the problem starts from, when the parent cannot advise their child but is rather pinning their own aspirations on the child. What's the use of pressuring children to study majors they are not suited for, or to even go to college in the first place? Maybe all the child needs to do is learn a craft or a trade sef.
Had a friend that had all the hallmarks of being a tight engineer back then in ss3. I mean the dude had mad TD (technical drawing) skillz, and was the 2nd best graduating student.
Only for the guy to opt out of TD exam days b4 weac cos the parents told him he was to be a doctor. Sad thing is the uni didn't take him for medicine...so he was suck with microbiology!
Men!I Was so upset. The guys maths and drawing skills is something I could only dream of...and he is now J̶̲̥̅̊u̶̲̥̅̊S̤̥̈̊τ̲̣̣̥ a microbiologist. Smh
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Nobody: 9:10am On Apr 17, 2013
Things are way too wrong in this country,imaging a man that studied Zoology is a president of a nation where absolutely everybody are politicians.How can he survive his leadership and in the middle of it many people are stiill studying the wrong courses and desiring another job in heart.....May God save this Generation In Nigeria.If nigeria will have universities as they have secondry schools ,i think is a good way to start.....
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by IYANGBALI: 9:13am On Apr 17, 2013
@ op you are right,I studies yoruba in the university,but today I lecturer english in one of our higher institutes
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by mildteddy(m): 9:17am On Apr 17, 2013
AjanleKoko: I think...
you thought well bro. The aptitude tests we are taking in our universities are supposed to be something that checks how apt (how cut out) a student is for a particular course he or she applied for. If the student performs bellow expectation the university is supposed to suggest other courses suitable for the person. if the student performs higher, it( the university can also advice them to opt for other courses it thinks they have more aptitude for. This is how it should be done, not when somebody scores 182 as average, they throw them into Fishery and Aquacultural science or Soil science ( I'm not saying that they shouldn't be studied).
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by vislabraye(m): 9:33am On Apr 17, 2013
Firstly, our education has failed us. When a student chooses engr for instance, he knows what he wants. The same applies for medicine and law.
But what happens if you're given physics or chemistry? Or what happens when you read your desired course and there's no job?
Life in Nigeria screws up people.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by sixteen08(m): 9:33am On Apr 17, 2013
Mightyify: Forget interest! Once a course makes money for you, you will like it.

......until you get the point of inflection and.....
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by tiab: 9:45am On Apr 17, 2013
The relevance of electives is to expose you to other fields within and outside your faculty while an undergraduate. You cld state this Minors alongside your Major course thereby making you eligible for competition in other fields.The real problem is employers in this side of the world that don't understand the relevance of the Minor courses being offered while an undegraduate.Hence, course or no course, you have an idea of your field and other fields, especially when you consider the fact that we are not all professionals, not until your 2nd degree.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by sixteen08(m): 9:47am On Apr 17, 2013
AjanleKoko:

There's also serious corruption in India, mind you.
But I think Asians generally have far more drive than Africans/blacks. They usually can pass any exam. Nobody can hardly beat them in any hustle, be it legitimate business, career, or even crime.

Those hospitals in India are not owned by the Indian government, mind you. We just have to conclude that maybe Nigerian medical people are not as entrepreneurial as Indians. That might just be it.

I'd say asians are more hardworking unlike africans/blacks that mostly pride in intellectual prowess or should I say they have a much more strong work ethic looking at it from there attitude to work).
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by abbyode(m): 9:48am On Apr 17, 2013
Hello, I hope the OP is not talking about me?
I've got HND Elect, PGD Elect, MEng Engineering Mgt (Foreign school) and MBA (Foreign school). I am currently studying for my Phd in Engineering Mgt(Also Foreign). I've got a lot of International trainings and certifications.
Contrary to your assertion, I work in one of the most respected IOCs (Oil Coy).
Yet, I am not at managerial level.

Are you saying i have missed road? Or am i too over-loaded?

For your information, some Masters programs abroad are so competitive that people that already have masters are given higher priorities.

The truth is first degree cert is like pure water these days. Have you seen some Entry level positions requesting for Masters degree? If you think your Bsc alone is enough to secure a good job, you may be deceiving yourself. You need to top up your first degree with some relevant skills, trainings, higher degrees and vocational trainings for you to be relevant in today's market.

The reason is beacuse jobs are so competitive these days and our education system is also not helping matter due to our archaic curriculum. This has led to the production of half-baked graduates who cannot competently compete in the market.

It's a systemic problem really....

Itz well.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by sixteen08(m): 9:52am On Apr 17, 2013
IYA NGBALI: @ op you are right,I studies yoruba in the university,but today I lecturer english in one of our higher institutes

Really *smh*

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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Policewoman(f): 9:57am On Apr 17, 2013
IYA NGBALI: @ op you are right,I studies yoruba in the university,but today I lecturer english in one of our higher institutes
grin grin grin Did you say you were a lecturer?
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by sixteen08(m): 9:58am On Apr 17, 2013
mildteddy:
you thought well bro. The aptitude tests we are taking in our universities are supposed to be something that checks how apt (how cut out) a student is for a particular course he or she applied for. If the student performs bellow expectation the university is supposed to suggest other courses suitable for the person. if the student performs higher, it( the university can also advice them to opt for other courses it thinks they have more aptitude for. This is how it should be done, not when somebody scores 182 as average, they throw them into Fishery and Aquacultural science or Soil science ( I'm not saying that they shouldn't be studied).

Just like the late achebe said "....things fall apart and the centre cannot hold...."
Nigeria is a case study that needs to be re-evaluated taking a cue from developed economies and functional developing countries .....truth be told,we all have a lot of work to do
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Nobody: 10:08am On Apr 17, 2013
Op blame the government nigeria does not have enough universities for its population and who is that person that said china does not have enough universities china has over 1000 universities and the best university in china hong kong university of science and technology is one of the best in the world its among the top 30 their maritime college is another asians don't joke with their education that's why they are where they are today.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Ahmed030(m): 10:14am On Apr 17, 2013
i heard d coment of everyone else. Our universities n poly just teaches us how 2 make grades in institutions. At d end of ur program. U wil se d core course as an elective which u wil choose one of it if u dont av cary ova.
In adition, 4 d few wking clas we av in dis country wish end up in a mess, afta sack or retirement dont know d diff btw asset n liability. Do lack financial inteligent
Pls read: 1. Rich dad poor dad 2. Cash flow quadrant by robert kiyosaki

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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by duality(m): 10:15am On Apr 17, 2013
The big question is, where are the jobs? My Bro, was one of the best during his time; It took him so long to get a good job.
Besides, the money for Post Grad and Certifications wasn't available. He spent years working just to keep body and soul together, without gaining experience in the area he loved. At this time, some of his friends who graduated with lower grades, got placements in Total, Mobil, APM etc. Today, the story has changed for the better. My point is; Life is just too complex; you can't rationalize it correctly all the time. Nothing is guaranteed anymore.

An Interesting topic I must say; but nothing is guaranteed. When a hunter is lucky, he is said to be the best.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Hope49ja: 10:18am On Apr 17, 2013
A Recruiter's Perspective:

As an Nigerian International Recruiter, it saddens me to see our brothers and sisters wasting money to do a million and one degrees and certificates which will get them nowhere, especially in the UK.

1) For many people who made mistakes in their secondary school or university choices, it can be corrected. Think of internships or volunteering, even if it is for free. Work experience generally is given preference, especially for non-technical roles.
2) For those studying in the UK, think twice before spending thousands of pounds/dollars or millions of naira on further education. Many of you will be better of investing the money and reaping the benefit if you have business management and development skills.
3) For those planning to further their education abroad, please remember that lots of things have changed over the last 5-10 years. It is now extremely difficult to get a proper job in Europe and America (especially). You will be competing with natives with the law and background fully on their side.
4) For many courses, it is a lot more beneficial to have some experience before furthering your education. The more education and certification you get the more specialist and expensive you become. Ultimately, the less attractive you are for a graduate role.
5) For engineering/technically inclined high/secondary school students, consider studying a broad degree, then decide on a specialisation afterwards. For instance do a BSc in Electrical Engineering and later specialise in Computer Engineering, Energy-related degrees or anything else that you are interested in. It gives you four/five years to figure out what you really like, but also a platform to switch easily in the future.. This is particularly so as the economic and industrial situation of a country may change in your lifetime (or your country location) may change and you want to be in a position to switch to something else that is relevant and of interest to you in the future if needed.

All the best!!!

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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Inik(m): 10:22am On Apr 17, 2013
Nigerian Students choice of course is determined by

Parental influence(study the course your parents choose for you)
Peer group influence(study what your friends are studying)
Prestige/monetary influence(People will respect you more if you study course A over course B and Course A pays more than course B)
Personal preference( i choose to study this course because i am good in this subject area).

The course i studied in university was chosen by my dad. I was 17yrs, fresh out of secondary school and was attempting Jamb for the first time that year (2004). I wanted to study medicine, so i filled in medicine as my first choice and pharmacy as my 2nd choice in the jamb form. My jamb score was 204 and wasn"t enough for both courses. That year 2004 was the year post utme exams was first introduced in the country, the university i wanted to study in pegged 250 points as the jamb cutoff point for the post utme exams, so i was cut off and was advised to choose another science course if i wanted admission that year.
My dad choose Crop science an agric science course that had 200 points as the cutoff point. I took the post utme exams and was successful and got admitted to study crop science(half akara dey better than none). Towards the end of my first year i took jamb again, scored 235 and went for the aptitude test for medicine and surgery. This time the cutoff point was lowered to 200. I took the test, scored 77 over 100 and i was happy that i had made it at last. When they pasted the Admission list i went to check, i scanned and searched the list several times, my name wasn"t on the list(the thing do me like film trick)so i went back home and consoled myself that at least i already had an alternative course in school. I was later told by a staff in the dept of medicine that the cutoff point was 80 and that some candidates who scored as low as 50 got admitted through "runs" and connections.

Crop science is a 5 years course and has a wide subject area content that cuts across diverse fields of study. I had no choice but to study hard, i went through the usual ASUU strike wahala, graduated with a good result, went through nysc mobilization wahala, went for youth service and got back november 2012. Now, where are the jobs that the sweet talking lecturers told us during classes were available in this field?(we don enter one chance. There are few career prospects for the course in Nigeria cos it is misunderstood and unappreciated(people tink say na only backbreaking farm work u fit do with this kain course). Unless you want to teach in the academia, slave away at a state ministry of Agriculture or you have capital to start off your large scale mechanized farm, you will be hanging in the balance.

Thank God i had discovered my talents back in the days, now i am working in an entirely different field and i am planning on doing my masters degree next year in a field where i have passion for. However if i get a good job offer that relates to my course of study i will pick it.

Enterpreneurship is the way forward, our universities should teach students on how to create jobs when they are through with school. I know i will go back to my course of study as a side hustle later when i have enough capital to start up an agric venture(money dey Agric).
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by IYANGBALI: 11:06am On Apr 17, 2013
Policewoman: grin grin grin Did you say you were a lecturer?
yes now,fool blooded lecture
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by kekerazi(m): 11:15am On Apr 17, 2013
Wat an interesting and educative thread on NL..@OP GOD BLESS YOU. @Mz Sleek,Wat your doing in that school must be commended.But I must say its wrong- Teaching T/D.I'm sure you were allowed to teach T/D because of the Lack of teachers in that subject..(I said what your doing is wrong because u might not be competent enough to impact the necessary knowledge of Technical Drawing) I might still be wrong Though....BUT KEEP IT UP.. @OP I think we should try to Follow our passion Not our Pension..dats exactly what Mz sleeq is doing ryt now.In Nigeria,its usually the monetary incentives dat makes either the child or parents choose a particular course..
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by viyon02: 11:28am On Apr 17, 2013
Parents too have to orientate their children, base on their performance in secondary school.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Iranoladun(f): 11:48am On Apr 17, 2013
mZ sleeq: I think am also a victim of this.I finished secondary school @ the age 15.I was sooo naïve I still tought the only courses to study were nedicine,law and accounting.the heck,I was sooo good in technical drawing.I was d only student that sat for TD durin WAEC in the whole school.but I never knew dere was a course called architecture. After secondary school,my dad pushed me into studying chemistry,which is what he studied.to add pepper to my wound ,I got into university the same year I finished secondary school.so,dere was no time for exposure @ alll.today am a chemistry graduate and I av NO prospects to work with it.because I don't like it.I'm not passionate about it.and today,I still regret not doin architecture.I've directed my energy into handwork though.I make wireworks now and I sew. So,who do I blame,myself?the government,my father,the educational system?


It depends on your age Sis. You can still achieve that dream - Architecture. I have a classmate back then in the university who went back to school to study Medicine after a B. Sc. in Microbiology! You're most likely to be a success if you study a course you're most passionate about.
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Fussbot: 11:50am On Apr 17, 2013
Shey we no go con go school again ni if den no give us medicine,accounting or law??(dey sae even lawyers dey husstle 4 dis naija)..bt I tink evwitin wasn't lik dis b4,I was told dey used 2 beg students with al dis courses bak in d days..watin con apen even with demoCRAZY?no enof universities,no jobs....na real wa 4 dis naija o...I mean,y did they put al dos courses in our system??even d govt gains nting 4rm dem so y??
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by biolabee(m): 11:54am On Apr 17, 2013
Hope49ja: A Recruiter's Perspective:

As an Nigerian International Recruiter, it saddens me to see our brothers and sisters wasting money to do a million and one degrees and certificates which will get them nowhere, especially in the UK.

1) For many people who made mistakes in their secondary school or university choices, it can be corrected. Think of internships or volunteering, even if it is for free. Work experience generally is given preference, especially for non-technical roles.
2) For those studying in the UK, think twice before spending thousands of pounds/dollars or millions of naira on further education. Many of you will be better of investing the money and reaping the benefit if you have business management and development skills.
3) For those planning to further their education abroad, please remember that lots of things have changed over the last 5-10 years. It is now extremely difficult to get a proper job in Europe and America (especially). You will be competing with natives with the law and background fully on their side.
4) For many courses, it is a lot more beneficial to have some experience before furthering your education. The more education and certification you get the more specialist and expensive you become. Ultimately, the less attractive you are for a graduate role.
5) For engineering/technically inclined high/secondary school students, consider studying a broad degree, then decide on a specialisation afterwards. For instance do a BSc in Electrical Engineering and later specialise in Computer Engineering, Energy-related degrees or anything else that you are interested in. It gives you four/five years to figure out what you really like, but also a platform to switch easily in the future.. This is particularly so as the economic and industrial situation of a country may change in your lifetime (or your country location) may change and you want to be in a position to switch to something else that is relevant and of interest to you in the future if needed.

All the best!!!

Sweet!

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Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by biolabee(m): 11:56am On Apr 17, 2013
Fussbot: Shey we no go con go school again ni if den no give us medicine,accounting or law??(dey sae even lawyers dey husstle 4 dis naija)..bt I tink evwitin wasn't lik dis b4,I was told dey used 2 beg students with al dis courses bak in d days..watin con apen even with demoCRAZY?no enof universities,no jobs....na real wa 4 dis naija o...I mean,y did they put al dos courses in our system??even d govt gains nting 4rm dem so y??

this your moniker sha... reminds me of s.exbot
Re: Nigerian Students Generally Study The Wrong Majors At Undergrad Level by Nobody: 12:26pm On Apr 17, 2013
AjanleKoko: I think, generally speaking about Nigerians, that young people in college, as well as those trying to get into college, more often choose the wrong disciplines to major in.

Wrong as in what they are not suited for, both mentally and psychologically. They now spend the rest of their youth trying to correct this mistake, and usually end up adding to it.

There is also the 'overload' factor. Take for example someone who studied Bachelor of Engineering, Master of Engineering, and MBA as a follow-up. Usually people do this to 'enhance their job prospects'. I wonder if it really does. I know someone who did that, still did ICAN and some computer certifications into the bargain. I'm not sure what good so many diverse qualifications can do to anyone.

Either peer pressure, zero counselling available, family pressure, or desperation to get into school might be responsible for all of this. I think aptitude (not IQ, but a mix of IQ and EQ) tests should be administered on students who are wrapping up secondary school. Maybe that way the students can be shown some things about themselves which they would never have known, and might help them with their decisions.

Thank you sir for this write up.

For some time now, I have been thinking along the same path, and even considering organizing seminars along that line for teens in my church.

What you have said is the absolute truth,
I remember when I wanted to get into the university, I initially got admission to study engineering, but turned it down, because of my fear of mathematics, secondly, I wanted a course that would guarantee me a job after graduation, so i decided i was going to study medicine, but my mum kept praying for me to make the right choice, cos she didn't want to make a choice for me.
I tried as i might to get admission to study medicine, but just couldn't get the cut off mark.

Finally to cut the long story short, i finally studied engineering. Today I am glad i did, even if i haven't gotten the job yet, but i know deep within me that i am in the right field, because along the line, I've found out that I had a high aptitude for technical concepts, but can't stand the slightest bleeding.

The long and short is that, we have mechanical engineers who have no business being there, They might even get a first class from the university, they will still struggle in real life scenarios.

Teens need proper counselling, they need to start understanding that, the course of study doesn't guarantee success, it's how good you are at what you do that will take you to the top.

That's why you see Nigerians, running after certificates, and more certificates, without any tangible skills, and no idea on how to implement all they have learnt.

Some get lucky, along the line they find their calling, either by luck or by chance, but the need for proper counselling should not be overlooked.

Regards

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