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Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by peteregwu(m): 3:05pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
maclatunji: Boko Haram is not an Islamic organisation – Governor Aliyu i see, so who are they? if they are not muslims, what are they then..demons? hmmmm....but why are the northern elites afraid of condemning? |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by hayubee(m): 3:15pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
@alexis fighting 4 Allah in wat sense Allah dose no ask us 2 fight unless we ar being oppressed I.e stoped u from goin 2 masjid nd readin d quran dat wen u can fight for Allah |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by peteregwu(m): 3:20pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
ACTUALLY I HAVE NO BLAME FOR BOKO HARAM, I ONLY BLAME THE QUARAN. 4 Likes |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by alexis(m): 3:21pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
hayubee: @alexis fighting 4 Allah in wat sense Allah dose no ask us 2 fight unless we ar being oppressed I.e stoped u from goin 2 masjid nd readin d quran dat wen u can fight for Allah Is Boko Haram being oppressed when they BOMB churches and kill Christians? Remember, that the word "fighting" is a verb - an action verb, it is offensive and not defensive. If someone attacks my home and wants to steal, kill and hurt by family. It makes perfect sense to defend myself. So, defensive Jihad is acceptable. However, attacking and killing innocent people can't be classified as oppression when the victims didn't attack you. That is why I said, some of the verses in the Quran justifies violence because the author of the Quran should have made it clear what those verses meant. Aside that, there are numerous verses in the Quran that talks about violence but leaves it to the reader to decide if it is defensive or offensive. |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by tintingz(m): 3:23pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
slagadoo: wat is JIHAD? alexis: Please teach us the meaning Lilimax: I want to know the meaning of Your questions have been answered in many thread, here is one... The True Meaning Of Jihad http://nairaland.com/1177382/true-meaning-jihad The arabic word "Jihad" means a struggle or striving and applies to any great effort on the personal and social level. It is striving to do good and remove injustice and evil from oneself and the society. |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by slagadoo: 3:24pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
JIHAD: is a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty in Islam, the central doctrine that calls on believers to combat the enemies of their religion. According to the Qur'an and the Hadith, jihad is a duty that may be fulfilled in four ways: by the heart, the tongue, the hand, or the sword. The first way (known in Sufism as the “greater jihad”) involves struggling against evil desires. The ways of the tongue and hand call for verbal defense and right actions. The jihad of the sword involves waging war against enemies of Islam. Believers contend that those who die in combat become martyrs and are guaranteed a place in paradise. In the 20th and 21st centuries the concept of jihad has sometimes been used as an ideological weapon in the effort to combat Western influences and secular governments and to establish an ideal Islamic society. Source:http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jihad |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by alexis(m): 3:30pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
tintingz: So you are saying Jihad is personal. For example, striving to be a better person? Are there any other forms of Jihad? |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by joelbaba: 3:39pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
oooooooooooooo pls heip me ask him ooooooooo. |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by tintingz(m): 3:41pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
slagadoo: JIHAD: is a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious dutyyou are good to go if you really understand what you have posted from merriam ''dictionary'' |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by tintingz(m): 3:44pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
^^ read above... alexis: |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by Surjman: 3:45pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
alexis:.....tanx for d verses.surah 2(bakarah) vs 216 stated dat fighting is obligatory but did it mension fighting of innocent people........surah 4(an-Nisa) vs 74 as quoted,let dos hu fyt in d way of Allah......dos killing innocent citizens,children,women n unarmed citizens justifies fytin in the name of Allah?also d last part of d verse mentioned,b he slain or victorious.....dos suicide bombin incate u been slain?we all know a suicide bomber killed himself n nt slained.dos killing d innocent makes u victorious?dis questions are for u to ansa 1 Like |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by nelxsantos(m): 3:45pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
they r nt islam, i guest they r 'boko haram' nd they attnd friday prayers @ d mosque. NB, d BH nver bomb any Northern political meetin b it high/low class gatherin, dos it mean they dnt hv d info. They hv grwn pas U nd stl grwin til it raech una stage. So U beter do somtin b4 somtin do U. |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by slagadoo: 3:46pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
And the Enemies are Christains. |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by alexis(m): 3:50pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
tintingz: ^^ read above... The question is to you mate, you can answer it or not. The burden of explanation is on you, not on me. |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by tintingz(m): 3:54pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
slagadoo: And the Enemies are Christains.can you define the word ''Enemy'' |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by tintingz(m): 3:57pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
alexis:i have provide you your answer what else do you want me to post? |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by hayubee(m): 3:58pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
@alexis like I said in my post earlier. Judge me not my religion so wat bh is doing is no wat we we're asked 2 do, der only misunderstandin. D Quran islam is peace is swear with my life! D reason y ppl have c islam as a religion of violence is cos of d way d media portrays islam bt islam is not as seen on tv. Afta 9/11 d u s invaded iraq nd pakistan d u s army killed over 100k civilian in iraq nd pakistan wit no evidence 2 show dy ar terrorist wen only at most 10k was killed in9/11 how many ppl no of dis? Cos d bbc nd co won't show dat tanks 2 al jazeera nd wikilweaks d meadia makes us c wat dy want us 2! Secondly cos an average persn believes wat he sees on t v p.s I if osama truely did d 9/11 attack he is a shame 2 islam nd humanity |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by slagadoo: 3:59pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
tintingz: can you define the word ''Enemy''Western Education is a Sin |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by oluamid(m): 4:00pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
gboss4sure: Don't they kill in the name of allah? Every terrorist organization in the world operates with the name of allah and the religion islam so what will make us to believe that is not an Islamic organization? pls, go get a little more knowledge, its obvious the one you currently have is not enough. thanks. |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by Nobody: 4:02pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
Yes.. It is not a muslim organisation. It is just an organisation dominated by muslims only. |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by alexis(m): 4:02pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
Surjman: .....tanx for d verses.surah 2(bakarah) vs 216 stated dat fighting is obligatory but did it mension fighting of innocent people........surah 4(an-Nisa) vs 74 as quoted,let dos hu fyt in d way of Allah......dos killing innocent citizens,children,women n unarmed citizens justifies fytin in the name of Allah?also d last part of d verse mentioned,b he slain or victorious.....dos suicide bombin incate u been slain?we all know a suicide bomber killed himself n nt slained.dos killing d innocent makes u victorious?dis questions are for u to ansa Surah 2:216 = It didn't mention fighting innocent people. Perhaps it should have to clarify that innocent people shouldn't be killed. You are proving my point. The author of the Quran should had made it clear on who should be fought and who shouldn't. It should have stated in what situation you should fight - defensive or offensive. Since it didn't, it gives justification to the reader to interpret it how they see fit. Not only does this verse (Surah 2:216) establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot. Surah 4:74 = Why did the author of the Quran leave the interpretation for you to explain to me. Why didn't the writer of the Quran explained everything from jump-start. I am not confused on the interpretation on this verse. Boko Haram, Ansaru, the Islamist in Mali and numerous others are the ones you should be addressing this question to. Because the Quran didn't make it clear who should be KILLED, it gives a platform of justification to the person reading these verses to interpret it however they want. Here is another one Surah 4:95 "Not equal are those believers who sit at (at home) and receive no hurt and those who strive and fight in the cause of God with their goods and their persons. God hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than those who sit (at home). There are so many verses on VIOLENCE that you can't possibly tell me what the author meant. Why didn't he make it clear what he meant? |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by alexis(m): 4:03pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
tintingz: i have provide you your answer what else do you want me to post? We all know you are the copy and paste King, I didn't expect anything more. Thanks for the attempt though |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by tintingz(m): 4:10pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
Surjman: .....tanx for d verses.surah 2(bakarah) vs 216 stated dat fighting is obligatory but did it mension fighting of innocent people........surah 4(an-Nisa) vs 74 as quoted,let dos hu fyt in d way of Allah......dos killing innocent citizens,children,women n unarmed citizens justifies fytin in the name of Allah?also d last part of d verse mentioned,b he slain or victorious.....dos suicide bombin incate u been slain?we all know a suicide bomber killed himself n nt slained.dos killing d innocent makes u victorious?dis questions are for u to ansaCorrect!! The christians dont know the fact that the bible contains war and slavery.... Christ Jesus who said i only came with sword to the earth not peace and kill my enemies who doesnt want me to reign over them. . . . is not calling for war against his enemies?? Christians need to use their brain |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by alexis(m): 4:11pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
hayubee: @alexis like I said in my post earlier. Judge me not my religion so wat bh is doing is no wat we we're asked 2 do, der only misunderstandin. D Quran islam is peace is swear with my life! D reason y ppl have c islam as a religion of violence is cos of d way d media portrays islam bt islam is not as seen on tv. Afta 9/11 d u s invaded iraq nd pakistan d u s army killed over 100k civilian in iraq nd pakistan wit no evidence 2 show dy ar terrorist wen only at most 10k was killed in9/11 how many ppl no of dis? Cos d bbc nd co won't show dat tanks 2 al jazeera nd wikilweaks d meadia makes us c wat dy want us 2! Secondly cos an average persn believes wat he sees on t v p.s I if osama truely did d 9/11 attack he is a shame 2 islam nd humanity I am judging your religion based on what is taught in the Quran and the Hadith? If you think all I know about Islam is from the television, then you don't know me. Some of us read the Quran by friend, not only that - we read the Hadith as well (Surprised?). Who attacked America on 9/11? Was it Russia? Was it North Korea? Your Muslim brothers picked a fight? They killed over 3000 innocent Americans. They are doing it in Northern Nigeria as we speak, they are doing it in Mali. I will leave it to you to state what they motivation was - Hint: Allah is involved So you think the can attack America with no REPERCUSSION? Muslims (Osama & his Muhejadeen) started the fight, they picked the war, - Afganistan, Pakistan, Yemen are the after effects of that war. So, stop complaining and crying foul as if Muslims had nothing to do with it. |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by alexis(m): 4:12pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
tintingz: Correct!! Oh shut-up, are we talking about Jesus Christ in this post or we are talking about your brothers in Boko Haram? Common Islamic tactic to avoid the obvious and blame others. 2 Likes |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by slagadoo: 4:14pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
The same thing is happening in Nigeria now. Killing innocent citizens |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by maclatunji: 4:16pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
Maybe we should invite the Governor for a meeting on Nairaland to educate people on this. |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by Stlatyv(m): 4:17pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
slagadoo:dats layman meanin. Jihad means doin sumthing mainly 4 d cause of Allah. U ar alowed to kil in islam wen u ar bein attacked. Walai u ar neva permited to kil jst cos u ar tryn to convince d oda person to acept islam. Muslims wil tel u dat bokoboys ar nt muslims cos they know wat it takes to b a muslim nt only sayin Allahu akbar. Thanks |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by alexis(m): 4:20pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
St.latyv: Thank you for your post and honestly. I like the fact that you said "Walai u ar neva permited to kil jst cos u ar tryn to convince d oda person to acept islam". Can you provide some evidence from the Quran to back this up? |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by hayubee(m): 4:20pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
@ alexi I don't say muslims don't no abt it muslims my be part of it I don't know who did it bt if it we're a muslim don't blame oda muslim, whos is blaming christians 4 wat d crusaders did so don't blame muslim 4 wat oda muslims do! |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by alexis(m): 4:21pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
maclatunji: Maybe we should invite the Governor for a meeting on Nairaland to educate people on this. That would be a head-start. Please go ahead Oga. I personally have a couple of questions for the Governor |
Re: Boko-Haram Is Not An Islamic Organisation – Babangida Aliyu by slagadoo: 4:27pm On Apr 17, 2013 |
St.latyv: Wat layman meaning? when i ve already gotten the answer online. Oga park well joor! |
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