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Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by Nobody: 6:06am On Jul 02, 2013 |
frosbel:And did my post mentioned it like that? What do you think the word Elohim means? |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by ijawkid(m): 6:47am On Jul 02, 2013 |
enilove: GBAM!!!!!!!!............ |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by freedom61: 10:04am On Jul 02, 2013 |
frosbel: Jesus is not GOD , he is the Son of GOD, even SATAN knows this.if son of man means that Jesus is man, then Son of God means that Jesus is God. kapich |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by freedom61: 10:11am On Jul 02, 2013 |
truthislight:my friend how many people get angel for heaven. no be God na im get angel. if Jesus get angel does that not telll you that Jesus is God. smh |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by truthislight: 10:17am On Jul 02, 2013 |
That ^ does not deserve an answer. Read Rev22 again and correct what is written there in the bible up there and not me. |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by Mintayo(m): 10:17am On Jul 02, 2013 |
freedom61: my friend how many people get angel for heaven. no be God na im get angel. if Jesus get angel does that not telll you that Jesus is God. smh wisdom! D guy didnt c that,he just dey post! Again,Muslims will never agree dt Jesus is the Son of God,bcus dey knw that being d Son of God autmatically make Him God! It is only satan dt will make ppl c Jesus as just an ordinary man and nt God! |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by truthislight: 10:28am On Jul 02, 2013 |
^^^ "And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the Angel of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure." (2 Corinthians 12:7). Even satan has ^ angels. The word "angel" means messenger. Simple. |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by freedom61: 10:36am On Jul 02, 2013 |
enilove: wrong wrong wrong yu people carry wrong interpretaions and run with it thinking now we have got it. lets get down to it, shall we i was expecting the verse to say "i was set up at a certain time" but no. the verse says i was set up at no time at all but at eternity at everlasting. 2. does set up mean to create. i set up the temporal tent [canopy] outside, did i just make the canopy. smh 3. now look at the meaning of the word from which set up is translated. it is nacak {naw-sak'} #5258 נָסַךְ it means 1. to pour out, pour, offer, cast 2. to set, install the two meanings does not mean to create something. you pour out what has being in existence. you set up already existing parts. you install an already pronounced king [case in point. when a king dies automatically the prince is now the king. the installation does not make the king, it only confirms][case in point 2: i just installed a software in my system. did i just create the software] summary: to pour out and to install should not be confused as creation. |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by freedom61: 10:41am On Jul 02, 2013 |
truthislight: ^^^always want to argue yourself out shey. satan get angels with him where im dey. unfortunately fr you. Jesus dey with the father, so Jesus no fit get im own independent angels wen go dey do him bidding outside the fathers. added to the fact that Jesus will = the fathers will |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by freedom61: 10:58am On Jul 02, 2013 |
@ titingz i see yu are enjoying posting a criticism here, meanwhile your islam section mod has just started a movement to ban criticisms from that section. if you can do this here, then i see no reason why it cant be done over there. take my word to him |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by truthislight: 11:35am On Jul 02, 2013 |
freedom61: always want to argue yourself out shey. satan get angels with him where im dey. unfortunately fr you. Jesus dey with the father, so Jesus no fit get im own independent angels wen go dey do him bidding outside the fathers. smh for you. Jesus cannot have his messengers , a prince cannot have his own messengers. You are a waste of my time. |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by truthislight: 11:39am On Jul 02, 2013 |
freedom61: @ titingz i see yu are enjoying posting a criticism here, meanwhile your islam section mod has just started a movement to ban criticisms from that section. if you can do this here, then i see no reason why it cant be done over there. Christianity and islam are not the same. One can take criticisms the other cant. His being here is not a problem. Dont attack the person and leave the argument. |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by shdemidemi(m): 11:40am On Jul 02, 2013 |
truthislight:please answer my question Genesis 18:8 "And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; (these three men) and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat." All three ate, but who are these three people? |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by ijawkid(m): 12:17pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Oboy they are Gods angels....... |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by ijawkid(m): 12:20pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
freedom61: And I see how you ignored/omitted the other meaning of naquash.which means to create,to born,to beget...... And you also forgot to add when this supposed wisdom said,I was born,I was given birth to,I was formed,I was brought forth before the mountains were settled....... Na naquash them use translate,born,formed and brought forth??......... |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by enilove(m): 12:23pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
freedom61: Go and ckeck your dictionary for the meaning of SET UP. We do not have to argue about this. In case you do not know ,it also means TO COME INTO ACTIVE OPERATION OR USE. Come to think of it,if it means "instal": Proverbs 8:23-24 KJV I was set up ( Installed ) from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. [24] When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. It means Jesus was installed by God. The verse 24 also says I WAS BROUGHT FORTH. These verses still say the same that Jesus was brought forth by God. Jesus himself said that the Father is greater than him. John 14:28 KJV Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Please,whatever is written should not be inferred or guessed. Accept what is written. 3 Likes |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by Nobody: 12:32pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
"why do you call it blasphemy when I say, 'I am the Son of God'? After all, the Father set me apart and sent me into the world." - John 10:36 - Jesus John 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him - God "48 “How do you know me?” Nathanael asked. Jesus answered, “I saw you while you were still under the fig tree before Philip called you.” 49 Then Nathanael declared, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.” - John 1 - Nathan "Simon Peter answered, "You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God." - Matthew 16:16 - Peter GOD, Jesus, Nathan and Peter disagree with Trinitarians, they are on their own with this 3-god Heresy. |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by shdemidemi(m): 12:36pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
ijawkid:Show me how you came to the conclusion- |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by Nobody: 12:37pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
frosbel: "why do you call it blasphemy when I say, 'I am the Son of God'? After all, the Father set me apart and sent me into the world." - John 10:36Lol,this dude is funny,why are you afraid to add Paul to the mix. |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by ijawkid(m): 12:44pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Jesus gives the perfect answer....... John 6:46 New International Version (©2011) No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. Abraham did not and has never seen God........ Except abraham is Jesus..... |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by Nobody: 12:59pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
Bidam: Lol,this dude is funny,why are you afraid to add Paul to the mix. "1 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God— 2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures 3 regarding his Son, who as to his earthly life[a] was a descendant of David, 4 and who through the Spirit of holiness was appointed the Son of God in power by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord." - Romans 1:1-4 - Paul |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by shdemidemi(m): 12:59pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
ijawkid: You did not answer my question- Genesis 18:8 "And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; (these three men) and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat." All three ate, but who are these three people? You said angels-- I ask, how did you come to the conclusion that they were angels? |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by Nobody: 1:01pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Mate , stop tearing the word of God apart, you are so far off the truth on this matter , you need to start from square 1 and re-evaluate your stance on this matter, currently it is FALSE. |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by shdemidemi(m): 1:04pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
frosbel:That isn't the issue. A question was asked, If you have really studied about what you are saying, attempt the question. |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by Freksy(m): 1:15pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
freedom61: "The Lord created me as the beginning of his works, before his deeds of long ago." - NET “The LORD created me first of all, the first of his works, long ago." -Proverbs 8:22 (GNT) “The LORD created me first of all, the first of his works, long ago." -Proverbs 8:22 Good News Catholic Bible (GNTCE) "The Lord created me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of old." -Proverbs 8:22 (RSV) "The Lord created me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of long ago".-Proverbs 8:22 (NRSV)
Assuming "set up" means "install", and Jesus is the Almighty God, who is he that set up or installed the Almighty God? |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by Nobody: 1:16pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
frosbel:And i say amen to that,the building blocks of revelations was actually progressive because if you read further which i believe you failed to do you will see where Paul said in Romans 9:5-"...Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen" (NKJV). |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by ijawkid(m): 1:16pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
shdemidemi: I gave you answer from the one person who has seen God and who knows that no man has seen God at anytime.......except when abraham saw God Jesus was sleeping or maybe was on hibernation...... If abraham has seen God then abraham must be Jesus............ Through out the scriptures all those who in their mind thought they saw God face to face saw and met his direct representatives....... These representatives have spoken words like they were GOD....but they were his representatives......... Oboy you better go back to the drawing board...... No man hath anytime seen God,except the one who came from God.... Would you like to agree with Jesus who has clarified this issue as to how patriachs of old saw God or you wouldn't ??....... |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by ijawkid(m): 1:27pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
@shmdemi.....let us consider this case of how an angel who represented God came to gideon materialized......he was an angel quite alright,but later in his discussion with gideon the conversation took a new turn like it was God the Father himself who was down there with gideon,discussiong with him..... Let's see _____________________________ Judges 6:11-15 English Standard Version (ESV) 11 Now the angel of the LORD came and sat under the terebinth at Ophrah, which belonged to Joash the Abiezrite, while his son Gideon was beating out wheat in the winepress to hide it from the Midianites. 12 And the angel of the LORD appeared to him and said to him, “The LORD is with you, O mighty man of valor.” 13 And Gideon said to him, “Please, sir,[a] if the LORD is with us, why then has all this happened to us? And where are all his wonderful deeds that our fathers recounted to us, saying, ‘Did not the LORD bring us up from Egypt?’ But now the LORD has forsaken us and given us into the hand of Midian.” 14 And the LORD[b] turned to him and said, “Go in this might of yours and save Israel from the hand of Midian; do not I send you?” 15 And he said to him, “Please, Lord, how can I save Israel? Behold, my clan is the weakest in Manasseh, and I am the least in my father's house.” ______________________________ In verse 11 the materialized spirit being who came down was identified as Gods angel....but in verses 14 and 15 it was as if this messenger of God was GOD himself.... This is a clear example that should solve your confusion as to who those 3 men who visited abraham were..... The persons abraham saw were Gods representatives....... God has never literally come down from heaven to do his biddings.....no man can see GOD and live.........what are his messengers there for??....to dey dance azonto or what??....... 1 Like |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by shdemidemi(m): 2:01pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
ijawkid: You did not answer my question still, seem yo u have no answer for calling the three of them angels or do you? |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by shdemidemi(m): 2:08pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
ijawkid: We can clearly see that the angel was the messenger in this instance. Can we then infer that it was an angel that spoke with Adam in the garden. I am sure you won't want to say that cos we were not told that, infact, It was God himself speaking in Genesis. Please check Genesis 18 properly to see who the three men really were. |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by ijawkid(m): 2:17pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
shdemidemi: But in that verse u read it later turned out like it was God himself who sat down there and was speaking to gideon............. Nobody has ever sEen the form of God....no one....... And I have read genesis 18 completely.... Those men were the angels of God and not God himself.... This is another example... ______________________________ Judges 13:1-26 English Standard Version (ESV) 1..And the people of Israel again did what was evil in the sight of the LORD, so the LORD gave them into the hand of the Philistines for forty years. 2 There was a certain man of Zorah, of the tribe of the Danites, whose name was Manoah. And his wife was barren and had no children. 3 And the angel of the LORD appeared to the woman and said to her, “Behold, you are barren and have not borne children, but you shall conceive and bear a son. 4 Therefore be careful and drink no wine or strong drink, and eat nothing unclean, 5 for behold, you shall conceive and bear a son. No razor shall come upon his head, for the child shall be a Nazirite to God from the womb, and he shall begin to save Israel from the hand of the Philistines.” 6 Then the woman came and told her husband, “A man of God came to me, and his appearance was like the appearance of the angel of God, very awesome. I did not ask him where he was from, and he did not tell me his name, 7 but he said to me, ‘Behold, you shall conceive and bear a son. So then drink no wine or strong drink, and eat nothing unclean, for the child shall be a Nazirite to God from the womb to the day of his death.’” 8 Then Manoah prayed to the LORD and said, “O Lord, please let the man of God whom you sent come again to us and teach us what we are to do with the child who will be born.” 9 And God listened to the voice of Manoah, and the angel of God came again to the woman as she sat in the field. But Manoah her husband was not with her. 10 So the woman ran quickly and told her husband, “Behold, the man who came to me the other day has appeared to me.” 11 And Manoah arose and went after his wife and came to the man and said to him, “Are you the man who spoke to this woman?” And he said, “I am.” 12 And Manoah said, “Now when your words come true, what is to be the child's manner of life, and what is his mission?” 13 And the angel of the LORD said to Manoah, “Of all that I said to the woman let her be careful. 14 She may not eat of anything that comes from the vine, neither let her drink wine or strong drink, or eat any unclean thing. All that I commanded her let her observe.” 15 Manoah said to the angel of the LORD, “Please let us detain you and prepare a young goat for you.” 16 And the angel of the LORD said to Manoah, “If you detain me, I will not eat of your food. But if you prepare a burnt offering, then offer it to the LORD.” (For Manoah did not know that he was the angel of the LORD.) 17 And Manoah said to the angel of the LORD, “What is your name, so that, when your words come true, we may honor you?” 18 And the angel of the LORD said to him, “Why do you ask my name, seeing it is wonderful?” 22 And Manoah said to his wife, “We shall surely die, for we have seen God.” _____________________________ From the above the angel of God was seen as God himself........ In verse 22 manoah said to his wife.. ""WE HAVE SEEN GOD"" @shmdemi........ Did manoah really see God??.......... |
Re: Bible Said God Is Not A Man But Jesus Is A Man/son Of Man...?? by ijawkid(m): 2:21pm On Jul 02, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Jesus has answered your question who you should know those men are..... |
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