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Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by Sgtkoselupa: 1:42pm On May 06, 2013
2015 Campaign funds?
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by loswhite(m): 2:06pm On May 06, 2013
tomakint: ..what Obj could not achieve with $16 billion within 8 years Jonathan is about to achieve with $3.7 billion, now this is what I called good governance!
has he achieved it?
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by loswhite(m): 2:07pm On May 06, 2013
alienware: That money isn't enough to generate 20 thousand megawatt . Power generation is based on the kilowatt or megawatt generated. 1 killowatt is equivalent to $800 -$2000 depending on the technology such as back pressure and the make, it could be siemen,hitachi or toshiba. 1 mega watt cost one million to 2 million dollars and a thousand megawatt cost about 1 billion to 2 billion dollars. 20,000 megawatt should cost about 20.5 billion USD . I have seen large sugar refineries and paper mills paying about 60-80 million usd to generate about 60 megawatt for their plant. The geregu power station after lokoja cost about 525 million usd to generate 425 megat watt . In my own opinion that money isn't enough to build 20,000 mega watt
not building but transmission
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by loswhite(m): 2:11pm On May 06, 2013
alienware: so u dont generate power b4 transmission ?
yes u do , but the transmission company is different from generation
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by loswhite(m): 2:14pm On May 06, 2013
Rossikk: Sorry but that is an unsatisfactory response. The guy is correct that you people rarely ever attack your own state govts, and power supply is not the only area of development requiring attention. The states get at least half the federal revenue don't they? That is countless billions of dollars annually.
so what is ur point
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by Nobody: 2:46pm On May 06, 2013
Rossikk: Sorry but that is an unsatisfactory response. The guy is correct that you people rarely ever attack your own state govts, and power supply is not the only area of development requiring attention. The states get at least half the federal revenue don't they? That is countless billions of dollars annually.

Well I guess that's a point we disagree on.

Understand this: As long as the Federal Government continues to hold disproportionate power, President Jonathan will continue to receive a disproportionate part of the blame for all that is wrong in the country. Is that fair? Probably not, but until we dump this pseudo-federalism and more powers are devolved to states, they will continue to escape the level of scrutiny that would ordinarily be their lot.

End of story.

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Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by otokx(m): 2:47pm On May 06, 2013
Let them give us light o
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by dederocs(m): 3:29pm On May 06, 2013
always approving funds,we never hear them making profits for the treasury or making lives better for average Nigerians with our collective resources.
We will hear of funds being approved for capital projects,but we will never see end results.
we are watching furiously...the Nigerian youths are being pushed to the wall-it will be a calamity to turn all the good men to evil men,when it seems like the Nation only rewards evil.
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by dederocs(m): 3:31pm On May 06, 2013
tomakint: ..what Obj could not achieve with $16 billion within 8 years Jonathan is about to achieve with $3.7 billion, now this is what I called good governance!
i sense sarcasm here...
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by Nobody: 4:16pm On May 06, 2013
otokx: Let them give us light o
bros, you nor get touch light sad ?
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by 1025: 4:24pm On May 06, 2013
PapaBrowne:

Good questions no doubt.

But check this: Why is it that when it the feds, you ask this question but never do same about your state governors.
A large chunk of our expenses are expended by states and LGAs and nobody cares to look their way.

are u ok? what has the so-called govs have to do with this project at hand? did namdi sambo mention the govs in this amount of money or did obasanjo name govs in his diverting the $16b? fg is the problem and the govs are just good followers of the fg. as long as we keep getting fraudulent presidents, expect no miracles from our govs because if the oga at the top is bad, the middle and the bottom will sure be bad.
give us a disciplinarian as a president and no gov will try nonsense with public funds.
are u not aware that the president has is too weak that he could not stop his own wife from fighting the wife of his late boss? how can such a man control govs?

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Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by Tigerhead: 4:25pm On May 06, 2013
When we have a greater spread of stable electricity later on in the year. the necessity for this will become apparent. At present the national grid cannot cope with more than 4,000 megawatts. We need it to be able to handle much much more.

The question I have from reading all the brainless posts here is - do Nigerians really deserve stable power?
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by Fellonigerians: 4:25pm On May 06, 2013
Akpangbon: THE Federal Government has approved the sum of $3.7 billion for the power sector to improve its transmission lines, so as to be able to wheel 20,000 megawatts of electricity.

Vice President Namadi Sambo, who disclosed this at a meeting with Nigeria-Canadian Association of Greater Toronto area, in Canada at the weekend, said the money was approved last week.

Speaking at an interactive session, he explained ongoing efforts at improving infrastructure in the country, noting that “President Goodluck Jonathan-led administration is committed to ensuring adequate power supply, improvement in transportation, aviation, Information and Communication Technology (ICT) , agriculture, health care services, education and good governance.”

While pointing out the contributions of Nigerians in diaspora to national development, Sambo implored them to return home and be part of the effort at transforming the country.

He noted that it was in recognition of their contributions that a diaspora bond of N1 billion was set up.

Earlier, the president of the Nigeria-Canadian Association, Fabian Nwoha, had expressed the desire of the association to contribute positively to the development of the nation, noting that they had been discouraged by negative stories emanating from Nigeria.

However, he observed that with the new developments being witnessed in the country, they were confident in the ability of the government to deliver on promises.

Nwoha reminded government of its promise to provide a Consular office in Toronto, so as to help ease emerging diplomatic issues.

The Nigerian High Commissioner to Canada, Dr Ojo Maduekwe, commended the association.


http://tribune.com.ng/news2013/index.php/en/component/k2/item/11232-fg-approves-3-7bn-to-transmit-20-000mw


Why do we hear about things like this when our leaders are meeting with foreigners Why did they not tell us first, since it is our money that will be used?? Or is Canada going to contribute

We still exhibit that character of colonial mentality...

Msscchheewwww!!!
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by DaLover(m): 5:56pm On May 06, 2013
muktar mtt: Shut ur pie hole mumu kudus 4 waiting looting ur money hw many times will FG approve money 4 electricity nd still nifing inpprove jst noda way 2 loot our money cluless presdow ever we gonna vote u out mr

Please list the monies that have been approved for electricity? Can you give a breakdown, I have sure you have no details,
You just come to a computer and start typing...nicompoop!!
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by jpphilips(m): 6:28pm On May 06, 2013
confusion247: I hope this money will not end up the same way OBASANJO's 16 billion dollars meant for power ended up?


what do you know?
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by mrofficial2(m): 6:52pm On May 06, 2013
The FG is not ashamed of itself. They should act and stop promising and telling us about funds shitz. If they like they spend $200bn on it, that won't guarantee us light. Just shut up and make the 24hrs electricity work.
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by otokx(m): 7:49pm On May 06, 2013
sheyie2007: bros, you nor get touch light sad ?

My dear we pay our bills? Let federal government give us light. How can a University in Port Harcourt function without electricity?
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by Sormeh: 9:10pm On May 06, 2013
HNosegbe:

The answer to your question is simple. We run a unitary system IN PRACTICE, where the Feds control 52% of national revenues. Besides, the FG has the monopoly of power transmission and distribution, meaning there's nothing to "ask" the states and local govts as far as the power sector is concerned.

When we reform our economic structure to make states viable economic units, then we'll be better equipped to hold governors accountable.
See common sense. Abeg take 5 bro.
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by Sormeh: 9:21pm On May 06, 2013
Tigerhead: When we have a greater spread of stable electricity later on in the year. the necessity for this will become apparent. At present the national grid cannot cope with more than 4,000 megawatts. We need it to be able to handle much much more.

The question I have from reading all the brainless posts here is - do Nigerians really deserve stable power?
Don't tell me u meant to ask dis si..y question.
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by jpphilips(m): 8:40am On May 07, 2013
bigaboi:
We are already generating 20000 megawatts already the challenge is that the existing transmission infrastructure cant transmit the 20000 megawatts already generated.see attached link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electricity_production

pasting links that you don't understand
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by jpphilips(m): 9:20am On May 07, 2013
nameo:

Nigeria's Installed Capacity is a little more than 6400MW, yet we can only wheel out less than 5000MW to the Grid cos of very inadequate Transmission Infrastructure over the years. From the 10 new Power plants and repairs on some of the Legacy plants and a few other plants like the Rivers State Plant, it is expected that the Installed capacity would increase to more than 10,000MW in the next 2 years or so. And then once the investments starts to flow in post-privatization down the years, many more thousand MWs would be generated by Private concerns. How would all these 'captive' Power be Evacuated/Transmitted to the Grid and then to our homes/businesses.

Transmission has always been one of the MAIN 'weak links' in our Power chain (others like the Regulatory environment and Generation is been addressed by the current Admin), and we wouldn't go far if it is not addressed frontally, both for today and fro tomorrow. The Government have done well in giving up Management and Day-to-Day running of TCN to the Reputable Manitoba International, BUT Alternative funding for the Modernization and serious upgrade/expansion of the Transmission Infrastructure should also be pursued. That is what I think is been done here.

Whilst concerns about the proper use of the funds could and should be asked considering our past, believe me: THIS IS a VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD MOVE by the Government; something that should have been done like 40 years ago and continuously too, for that matter.


As much as it is commendable to improve the weak Nigeria's transmission infrastructure, there are various genuine concerns and fears,
every sane mind can quickly deduce that the contract is largely inflated, this is obvious because the announcement doesn't relay the technical scope of work.
I chose to join the train of the skeptics because i understand how people in Govt steal money, before you start throwing kudos, ask yourself, what is the distance the 20,000mw will be conveyed?

it is childish to tell me that you want to spend $3.7b to transmit 20,000mw of electricity without telling us the distance it will cover, in other words, the sillly sambo can throw in 20,000mw capacity from abuja to lokoja and then $3.7b is justified.

secondly, have you bothered to juxtapose it with similar projects else where?

The installed capacity you quoted above, do you really understand what it means? from the facts i ve seen on the Ground, the Govt is always announcing "proposed capacity" not installed capacity, if you believe that thing you wrote up there then you have a lot to learn.
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by phantom(m): 9:25am On May 07, 2013
otokx:

My dear we pay our bills? Let federal government give us light. How can a University in Port Harcourt function without electricity?
looks like you were born in uniport, grew up there,hope to get married and raise kids there and to die and be buried there someday.

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Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by jpphilips(m): 9:26am On May 07, 2013
dederocs: always approving funds,we never hear them making profits for the treasury or making lives better for average Nigerians with our collective resources.
We will hear of funds being approved for capital projects,but we will never see end results.
we are watching furiously...the Nigerian youths are being pushed to the wall-it will be a calamity to turn all the good men to evil men,when it seems like the Nation only rewards evil.


shut up and go suck breaasst, when e start now, na you go first reach border dey send good will messages, Akpa-Amu
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by egregous: 9:54pm On May 24, 2013
bigaboi:
We are already generating 20000 megawatts already the challenge is that the existing transmission infrastructure cant transmit the 20000 megawatts already generated.see attached link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electricity_production


Donaeo: That is not what we are generating, that stuff is in Gw/Hr, How can you say Us is generating 4.3 million GW/Hr,Nigeria's installed generating capacity is about 6000MW
Also not, That is Gwh per year what mean amount of total electricity produced in one year.
If you like some maths,
20000 Gwh per year /365 days per year /24 hours per day = 2,283GWh per hour = 2283MW avarage power generating output.
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by MajeOfficial: 10:03pm On May 24, 2013
cashflowpc: It's high time people started thinking of alternative energy...
Generator?
Re: FG Approves $3.7bn To Transmit 20,000mw by 1025: 9:28am On May 25, 2013
another missing funds. jega will be richer as settlement for 2015 is sure.

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