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Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by Nobody: 6:31pm On May 11, 2013
The groups I see as middle belt are those in plateau,benue,taraba,nasarawa,adamawa,southern gombe,southern kaduna and igala people.
Forget about the igbira,western kogi,kwara and niger state,these ones are northerners.
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by Afam4eva(m): 6:31pm On May 11, 2013
dayokanu:

Waiting for the leading party to field you is quite lame.

What happened to building your own parties

Awolowo didnt wait for a Party, Olu Falae didnt wait either

BTW no one would consider you for top spot when you are contented with Vice President. Go read what Shagari and ordinary Grade 2 teacher said about Azikwe.

Like Awolowo said he would rather stand alone in opposition than be a ceremonial Vice whose responsibility ends at watching Primary school students march on October 1 and saluting them like below



The long and short of the story is that Igbos have been contesting since 1999. Whether they emerged first or second shouldn't be an issue.

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Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by dayokanu(m): 6:33pm On May 11, 2013
Afam4eva:
The long and short of the story is that Igbos have been contesting since 1999. Whether they emerged first or second shouldn't be an issue.

South South has also been contesting through Chris Okotie and Pat Utomi

EVen Yorubas contested through Mrs Mojisola Obasanjo in 2003 grin grin And Middle Belt contested through Mrs Sarah Jubril grin grin grin grin

Keep on contesting soon you go enter Aso rock after 6 times in 10th position
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by Emperor007: 7:54pm On May 11, 2013
Hmmm

This is still morning




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Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by Nobody: 8:08pm On May 11, 2013
mekaboy:

Lol, they can't say it, they are sitting on remote controlled bomb by the North. Once the button is pressed it will be over.

IT is only under gej administration that every group dey speak their mind. What have they been afraid of all this while?

Do you see the clear picture?

The IGBO man in charge of the army is backing gej, GEJ is backing all the regions that feel like speaking their mind.

There is a feeling of Equality in the air.

Just in case you dont know GEJ still munches on $30,000/day meals.

How much have your whole family's meals cost in the last 20 years?
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by Nobody: 8:10pm On May 11, 2013
Dede1:

Yoruba have not voted for Igbo.

But Igbo ALWAYS vote Hausa--- EVEN WHEN OJUKWU WAS CONTESTING FOR PRESIDENT!
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by bombay: 8:11pm On May 11, 2013
The Hausa-Fulani has no ideals, no ambitions save such as sensual in character. He is a fatalist, spendthrift and a gambler. He is gravely immoral and is seriously diseased that he is a menace to any community to which he seeks to attach himself".

- Lord Lugard in a Letter to his colleague, Walter H. Lang on September 25, 1918.

“Under the circumstances of what has been happening in Plateau State, some people just have to die……Any society that refuses to be just and fair shall become a jungle where only jungle justice shall operate……… Indeed, majority of our killings were carried out in areas where there was strong government presence.”

Mallam Sale Bayero, Fulani leader and secretary Sultan’s Farmer/Cattle Rearers Conflict Committee boasting as he justified the massacre of the Birom people while protesting the arrest of the Fulani murderers in Plateau State of Nigeria, quoted in THE SUN NEWS of Friday, March 12, 2010



Dan Fodio
Some time towards the middle of the second decade of the 1800s (1815 AD or thereabout), Uthman Dan Fodio was reported to have had a scary dream about his Sultanate empire that he had just built. This dream was said to have saddened him that the empire he had spilled so much blood to build would only lasted 200 years. As a courageous warrior that he was, Dan Fodio was reported to have summoned the will to interpret the dream make this prediction abouthe future of his Empire.

According to informed sources as reported by Adewale Adeoye in The Nation of March 14, 2010, this fear of the realization of Dan Fodio’s dream was what informed the hurried movement of the Capital of Nigeria from Lagos to Abuja. The report said inter alia:

“The source hinted that in the 1970s, Northern leaders of Fulani extraction had met and resolved that the capital of Nigeria be moved from Lagos to Abuja, in anticipation of the prophecy of late Uthman Dan Fodio. He said the meeting was

propelled by the dream the then Sultan of Sokoto had that he saw his offsprings, in years to come, being requested to obtain visa permits before entering the Southern part of the country….”

There are a number of deductions that could be made from the above:

a) That the entire Nigeria was and is still regarded as part of the Sultanate Empire of Uthman Dan Fodio.

b) That this is why the Fulani have been exuding this arrogant attitude permeated with the “BORN TO RULE” mentality.

c) That this is why they have always ruled Nigeria as if we are in the middle ages and consider the wealth of Nigeria as theirs to dispense as they see fit.

d) That the recent liberation struggles in Birom, Niger Delta, and the rest of the South, west or east is being seen as the beginning of the end of the Sultanate Empire by the Fulani people

e) That the Fulani people have been scheming and preparing to get ready for when they would leave or be chased out of Nigeria.

It is this writer’s view that there is nothing wrong if the Fulani have to pull out of Nigeria to sustain and maintain the remnant of their Sultanate Empire. It would definitely serve all concerned very well. But this writer is not convinced that the Fulani would let go very easily, regardless of their palpitation about the dreams of Uthman Dan Fodio. They are going to fight hard. Anyone familiar with their trickery and how they subdued all the fledgling Hausa States one after the other, using Hausa masses against their kings would agree with this writer.

To this extent, I disagree with Lord Lugard that the Fulani (let us leave the Hausa ethnic nationality out for now), “has no ambition.” The Fulani has ambitions and great ones at that. The Fulani ambition is to always rule others whether they (Fulani) have the capacity to do so or not. The Fulani liked and still likes his empires, at least that of Uthman Dan Fodio has been in place before Lord Lugard ever was born.

It is this inherent ambition that forced the Fulani to develop the methodology to use religion to mobilize the Hausa critical mass against their own Hausa rulers and replaced them with blue-blooded turban-carrying Fulani rulers as Emirs across what used to be Hausa kingdoms. As time goes on, the Fulani sought ways to modernize its means of extending the frontiers of the Sultanate and refined its tool that was used against the Hausa Kingdoms in preparation for the conquest of the ethnic nationalities in Nigeria.

What the Fulani came up with was a different brand of what they did to the Hausa kings and empires. The Fulani concluded that because of cultural and religious factors, it would not be easy to use the critical mass of other ethnic nationalities in Nigeria to be able to supplant the leaders of these ethnic nationalities. So, the Fulani to sustain its ambition to rule and dominate, cultivated corrupt satellites in every ethnic nationality in Nigeria while politically annihilating the true leaders of other ethnic nationalities.



In 1957, during the heated battles for self government and independence, Sir Ahmadu Bello referred to Nigeria as “The mistake of 1914.” To correct this “mistake” a meticulous plan to dominate the future Nigerian Armed Forces was surreptitiously embarked upon while the British was helping out on the political front manufacturing Parliamentary seats for the North against the South of Nigeria. Thus, barely six months after independence, Sir Ahmadu Bello was able to say with confidence in the Daily Times of May 3, 1961, the following:

“I’m set and fully armed, to conquer the Action Group, AG, in the same ruthless manner as my grandfather conquered Alkalawa, a town in Sokoto province, during the last century.”

The writer would like readers to pay due attention to the words used by Sir. Bello, in this quote. He used the word “conquer” not "negotiate." Ahmadu Bello executed this desired conquest of the West as he had planned. Though, it backfired temporarily as it consumed him a number of years later, but the Fulani sentries in the Caliphate Armed Forces euphemized as the Nigerian Armed Forces along with its surviving civilian wing have adopted Sir. Ahmadu Bello’s method of propping up political, economic and religious satellites in all ethnic nationalities in Nigeria to be able to maintain control from Abuja, Sokoto and or Gobir, the birthplace of Uthman Dan Fodio.

It would be alright, if the Fulani could live with others as others are willing and prepared to live with them in Nigeria and other parts of West Africa, at least. In Nigeria, there has been more than 100years of evidence that various ethnic Nationalities have accommodated, loved respected and cared for the Fulani in their midst. There are abundant evidence that the Fulani have been treated as fellow human beings and accorded the same rights that the host have always enjoyed.

But it is very unfortunate that the Fulani has not had the same “live and let live” approach to other ethnic Nationalities in Nigeria. The Fulani concept of living is that others have to die, so that the Fulani may live. As far as the Fulani are concerned, other peoples of other ethnic nationalities are second rate slaves to be used, dumped, maimed, Molested or killed for the good of the Fulani man. The Fulani see Nigeria as his great grandfather’s inheritance to be toyed with as he wishes and as he wants. This attitude of Fulani makes him believe that he has to rule wherever he is, regardless of his comparative intelligence and capability to that of his host among other reasons.

Presenting a paper reviewing Paul M. Lewis’ book Ethnologue: Languages of the World, (16th Edition), to a study group in Philadelphia recently, Professor Wola Awoyale, a linguist at the University of Pennsylvania noted that the Fulani are recent immigrants in Nigeria, Cameroon, Chad, Benin Republic, Guinea, Senegal, Niger, Mali and Sudan. The Fulani symbol is turban, flag, alukimba, mosque and book. The Fulani are “a very creative” people who are often very “tight-lipped, silent and secretive” in their approach. They are very “mistrusting, calculating and patient.”

The Fulani are described as “cold blooded and ideological.” They are “ascetic, reclusive and tough-minded.” The Fulani places premium on the role of the mosque in its culture and this is why in all of Nigeria, a Fulani would not be a part of Jamaa (the congregation) where another man of different ethnic stock is leading muslims in prayers.

The Fulani language Fulfude with its variations in Fulah, Pulaar and or Pular are very highly priced. It is their weapon to discuss in secrecy and manipulate and carry out their machinations. The Fulani will freely learn the languages of others as a means of infiltrating them for economic, political and religious advantages while rarely speaking Fulfulde in the presence of others.

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Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by Nobody: 9:09pm On May 11, 2013
We the peoples of the Biafran Nation, are not primitive, neither are me barbarians.

We have learnt from the gospel to forgive. we have forgiven you.
We also extend our right arm of fellowsh. the long awaited revolution is finally on!
I can see light ahead.
E can have separate Nations with reat alliance.

More grease to your elbows
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by eaglechild: 11:31pm On May 11, 2013
Why is everyone courting Igbos?
Soon
Yorobs
will
say
Awolowo
misled
them
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by IGBOSON1: 11:56pm On May 11, 2013
eaglechild: Why is everyone courting Igbos?
Soon
Yorubas
will
say
Awolowo
misled
them



^^^On the bolded: You're on a long thing mate!
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by ikweremilitant: 1:06am On May 12, 2013
Desola: All of you from that region are b4stards if you don't take up those arms and head to the north now.

Moraforking nonentities that had no filthy mouths to talk in the heydays of OBJ are now coming our like roaches from a dirty cupboard because their illiterate shoeless son is in possession of the mantle.

Listen, this is your chance to do all that you can to break away now as if you do not succeed in your quest, your demise is guaranteed and set in stone. Just pray with all your might that Jonathan never leaves that seat or that he gets enough money to continue buying your arms. If fail just like biafra failed, then all you jekuredin militants who are now springing out from the woodworks would be severly dealt with. No, I mean mortally rendered lifeless!

Shish kebab!
pls can sone reply this frustrated amala seller
Una good morning o,hope una sleep well

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Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by IGBOSON1: 1:29am On May 12, 2013
Tolexander: Nigeria is now becoming a joke.
Interesting seeing different mushroom groups creating nuisance everyday thinking they are talking.

Yakubu Gowon, a northerner who was the president of nigeria tricked his fellow northerners to fight their enemy!
This is interesting!

Na so these people go talk to win the ndigbo's vote.

^^^Gowon wasn't de-facto Head of State; if he was he wouldn't have agreed to and signed the Aburi accord as 'Head of State', only to go back home and be told by his ogas at the top to chuck his own copy in the dustbin!
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by Nobody: 1:46am On May 12, 2013
Desola: All of you from that region are b4stards if you don't take up those arms and head to the north now.

Moraforking nonentities that had no filthy mouths to talk in the heydays of OBJ are now coming our like roaches from a dirty cupboard because their illiterate shoeless son is in possession of the mantle.

Listen, this is your chance to do all that you can to break away now as if you do not succeed in your quest, your demise is guaranteed and set in stone. Just pray with all your might that Jonathan never leaves that seat or that he gets enough money to continue buying your arms. If fail just like biafra failed, then all you jekuredin militants who are now springing out from the woodworks would be severly dealt with. No, I mean mortally rendered lifeless!

Shish kebab!

Who did this to this person?
So nairalanders can just sit and fold hands while someone runs totally mad in a discussion forum
Chai
I thought she hanged herself last Christmas when Seun refused to put Achebe in a hall of shame grin grin grin grin

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Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by anitanwababy: 2:00am On May 12, 2013
babyosisi:

Who did this to this person?
So nairalanders can just sit and fold hands while someone runs totally mad in a discussion forum
Chai
I thought she hanged herself last Christmas when Seun refused to put Achebe in a hall of shame grin grin grin grin

Be rest assured that by daybreak she will lose her posting rights to spew her hate and gibberish. The girl needs an overdose of anti-depressant drugs.
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by anitanwababy: 2:27am On May 12, 2013
Good morning people of the Middle belt. Chi abo la unu na anya. . LoL

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Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by Nobody: 2:35am On May 12, 2013
anitanwababy: Good morning people of the Middle belt. Chi abo la unu na anya. . LoL

Well,Igbos say that whenever a man wakes up,that automatically becomes his morning
Better late than never
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by anitanwababy: 2:42am On May 12, 2013
babyosisi:

Well,Igbos say that whenever a man wakes up,that automatically becomes his morning
Better late than never
yes you are right. Am just teasing anyeay but I like the fact that they are begining to figure out that the only reason the hausa-fulani politicians consider them is because they can add up to swell the population of the "monolithic North" and give the impression that the North has the population to win votes. Well, let's see how the likes of the Ayatola of the North, Buhari will fair in the light of this gradual awakening.

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Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by whatzbyafria(m): 6:28am On May 12, 2013
kirian202: Now it remain one RED OIL Soup group to say they regret why dey fight against Biafra
Make u no quote me cos as u dey read dis my post I dey on my way to market make I buy waiting I go use cook my fishless STEW tomorrow
they will never say it and even if they say it will be those ones that do not know the history of Nigeria and I advise you not to ever take that serious.
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by bloggernaija: 8:38am On May 12, 2013
The idea of the south south and middle belt itself is a joke. It is not homogeneous.kogi south up to the ajaokuta and vast track of Kwara is core Yorubaland .a future geopolitical reorganisation will result in the creation of a state out of the 2 .
Also benue and plateau state has tivs , idomas and more recently fulani at each other neck .
In fact , there are more ethnic groups here than the entire Europe. .
Also obafemi awolowo set the ball rolling in dismantling the the monolithic north.his book "my thought on the nigerian constitution" is a good read .
He foresaw most of the current problem including the Niger delta problem
However the principles enunciated in the book has been bastardised to further enable sectional interest.
The principle was basically that states and local government be created to reflect the ethic make up if the country. If the ethnic group is too small and if they can live in peace with equally neighbours,then they can be joined together .each should have access to his resources and a fixed percentage to the centre.the poorer ones can be carried along.
His main condition to gowon was to split the north. Gowon created 7 states
Obasanjo also gave them a ray of hope my removing militicians and politicised military officers and also empowering politicians from this part of the country .he also did this with the south south
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by anitanwababy: 9:13am On May 12, 2013
bloggernaija: The idea of the south south and middle belt itself is a joke. It is not homogeneous.kogi south up to the ajaokuta and vast track of Kwara is core Yorubaland .a future geopolitical reorganisation will result in the creation of a state out of the 2 .
Also benue and plateau state has tivs , idomas and more recently fulani at each other neck .
In fact , there are more ethnic groups here than the entire Europe. .
Also obafemi awolowo set the ball rolling in dismantling the the monolithic north.his book "my thought on the nigerian constitution" is a good read .
He foresaw most of the current problem including the Niger delta problem
However the principles enunciated in the book has been bastardised to further enable sectional interest.
The principle was basically that states and local government be created to reflect the ethic make up if the country. If the ethnic group is too small and if they can live in peace with equally neighbours,then they can be joined together .each should have access to his resources and a fixed percentage to the centre.the poorer ones can be carried along.
His main condition to gowon was to split the north. Gowon created 7 states
Obasanjo also gave them a ray of hope my removing militicians and politicised military officers and also empowering politicians from this part of the country .he also did this with the south south
Interesting!!!
I have not yet read the said book but if Awolowo did suggest in the book that people of thesame tribes be clumped up together and given a state irrespective of their geographical location, then I am sorry to say that it is a ridiculous suggestion that can only exist on the pages of a book and not in reality.

The issue here is not about carving state out of tribes, it is more of defining in clear terms the geographical location and identity of the people in the so-called North Central states. It gives the false impression that they are thesame with the Hausa-Fulanis in the core NW and NE states or that the Hausa-Fulani population make up the majority in the so-called North Central states, when in reality, they are actually the minorities there.

If you have mixed up well with middle belters especially the Tivs, Igbira or beroms, you will discover they are nothing like any Hausa or fulani person both in identity and social make up. They don't share the Hausa fulan political sentiments yet their own political views and sentiments are overriden by the mirage of a "monolithic north".

If the FG can find enough reason to divide the peoples of the eastern region along geo-political lines and geographical expressions that clearly defines the geographical lines and territory of different people and their political leanings, doing thesame for the Middle belt can't be that difficult unless of course there is no sincerity of purpose on the part of the FG in their reasoning when they justified their Geographical division of the east.

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Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by jason123: 9:18am On May 12, 2013
anitanwababy: Interesting!!!
I have not yet read the said book but if Awolowo did suggest in the book that people of thesame tribes be clumped up together and given a state irrespective of their geographical location, then I am sorry to say that it is a ridiculous suggestion that can only exist on the pages of a book and not in reality.

The issue here is not about carving state out of tribes, it is more of defining in clear terms the geographical location and identity of the people in the so-called North Central states. It gives the false impression that they are thesame with the Hausa-Fulanis in the core NW and NE states or that the Hausa-Fulani population make up the majority in the so-called North Central states, when in reality, they are actually the minorities there.

If you have mixed up well with middle belters especially the Tivs, Igbira or beroms, you will discover they are nothing like any Hausa or fulani person both in identity and social make up. They don't share the Hausa fulan political sentiments yet their own political views and sentiments are overriden by the mirage of a "monolithic north".

If the FG can find enough reason to divide the peoples of the eastern region along geo-political lines and geographical expressions that clearly defines the geographical lines and territory of different people and their political leanings, doing thesame for the Middle belt can't be that difficult unless of course there is no sincerity of purpose on the part of the FG in their reasoning when they justified their Geographical division of the east.

...And who divided the West into two? Was it not Zik? Most of you Igbos on this forum are just funny! Even funnier is the inclusion of part of the Old West in Biafra as if they have been together from time. Funny people!

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Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by jason123: 9:19am On May 12, 2013
As for the news, its OLD NEWS. They said this about 2 years ago...yawns!

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Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by eagleeye2: 9:41am On May 12, 2013
eaglechild: Why is everyone courting Igbos?





2015 on their mind, and Igbos as usual will be willing to take sides. it is high time, the Igbos became neutral and watch as events unfold towards 2015.
GOODLUCK EBELE AZIKIWE JONATHAN during the build up of 2011 election, after the election where is the AZIKIWE?
Igbos are again being courted, after using them, they will be dumped.
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by ijawcitizen(m): 11:54am On May 12, 2013
eagle,eye:


2015 on their mind, and Igbos as usual will be willing to take sides. it is high time, the Igbos became neutral and watch as events unfold towards 2015.
GOODLUCK EBELE AZIKIWE JONATHAN during the build up of 2011 election, after the election where is the AZIKIWE?
Igbos are again being courted, after using them, they will be dumped.
You are wrong bro. Niger Deltans didn't court Igbos just to use and dump them. Igbos know that supporting a Niger Deltan alligns with their interest in weakening the Islamic North's (NE & NW) and SW's hold on the country.

Putting aside how we were treated in the Eastern Nigeria Region and during the Biafra war (an axe which I'm still grinding with them), we are PARTNERS in the quest either to make Nigeria a better place for all to live in OR to bringing Nigeria to an end, both outcomes depending on how foolish (they are always foolish) the northerners and their SW allies repond to the fresh air of Transformation & Justice coming from the "dumbo and clueless retardeen ogogoro drinkers from the oil polluted rivers of the Niger Delta"
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by asorocker: 12:00pm On May 12, 2013
ijaw citizen: You are wrong bro. Niger Deltans didn't court Igbos just to use and dump them. Igbos know that supporting a Niger Deltan alligns with their interest in weakening the Islamic North's (NE & NW) and SW's hold on the country.

Putting aside how we were treated in the Eastern Nigeria Region and during the Biafra war (an axe which I'm still grinding with them), we are PARTNERS in the quest either to make Nigeria a better place for all to live in OR to bringing Nigeria to an end, both outcomes depending on how foolish (they are always foolish) the northerners and their SW allies repond to the fresh air of Transformation & Justice coming from the "dumbo and clueless retardeen ogogoro drinkers from the oil polluted rivers of the Niger Delta"

Putting aside how we were treated in the Eastern Nigeria Region and during the Biafra war (an axe which I'm still grinding with them)

how where you treated in the eastern region and during the war when you joined the North and SW to fight for Nigeria ,
Please enumerated with evidential proofs
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by WilyWily8: 12:05pm On May 12, 2013
asorocker:

Putting aside how we were treated in the Eastern Nigeria Region and during the Biafra war (an axe which I'm still grinding with them)

how where you treated in the eastern region and during the war when you joined the North and SW to fight for Nigeria ,
Please enumerated with evidential proofs
Do you know who is Becomerich/Ahj Haram/Ahj Uche/Musiwa/Ogbuafor/Mapolov, he is one old confused Yoruba man living in Canada
Re: They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War" - Middle Belt by sleekdot(m): 12:07pm On May 12, 2013
Ask the Bendelite how they were treated when the Biafra liberation army visited their land

If people wey shiit forget people wey pack am no dey forget

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